Seriously, way good info. Thanks for posting it. Now know I have to stick with Chlorine as the metal frame won't last with a NaCl system. As it was only a $350 intex pool, we'll stick with CL and upgrade to salt water/resin frame next time around.
I'm new to pools and still learning about them. I just bought a house with a traditional freshwater pool in it. I am inclined to going salt. Although there is an additional investment required ($600 - $1,500) for the chlorine generator and associated controls, I think that is minimal in the long run. I need something clarified though. What I have is an inground pool that is rimmed with tiles to show the water line and what looks a painted liner behind poured concrete (I think). The deck around the pool is concrete. Would my setup work well as a salt water conversion?
A little trick I have learned to get rid of algae in a pool,put a mr clean magic eraser in your skimmer box, then after about a week, you will see what I mean !
we love our salt pool, to start up pool from scratch with salt cost about $300, ours take 18 bags for 25.000 gal. Note salt cell cost to replace starts about $200+ salt system great does not fade clothes, no burning eyes, no dry skin, no chlorine taste or smell
I know this is an older video but the one big caveat that has recently become an issue is how much a salt chlorinator raises the PH to extremely high amounts. And while you are talking about Above Ground Pools, those who have in ground 30-40K gallon pools is a bigger task to maintain with salt, especially in regards to upfront costs, replacing the salt cell when it fails, and dealing with high PH levels that will corrode the plaster if not dealt with on a weekly basis. You're video was very informative but I think it needs to updated at this point, at least based on other things I have seen on YT and read about on this subject.
I agree with you. Salt water systems are a total scam. I buy a chlorine card for $40 CDN for 100 liters (22 gallons). I put 700ml (0.7L) in per night at the end of the day, after everyone is finished swimming, run the pump for an hour and done. No real work. Salt water systems only generate chlorine when the pump is running. Therefore burning more electricity, and either not making enough or making too much, while it sends the PH through the roof. Then they tell you to add more chemicals to lower the PH. Everyone I know that has got a pool in the last 10 years has been talked into this BS salt water system. I have been dealing with a pool with no problems for over 35 years. If you want to get fished in.... then you should get a salt water system.... after all fish like salt water.
The problem is the pool owner. If you don't know how much chlorine to add or when to add it then the problem is the owner not the chlorine. By the way, at this point everyone knows that a salt water pool is a chlorine pool. You just make it with your little in-line generator as opposed to it being made in a factory. Also a salt water pool will continue to make chlorine as long as the pump is running and also continue to raise the PH level. Chlorine dangerous to handle??? Give me a break, it's more dangerous to gas up my lawn mower,snow blower or car.
I have a pool from the pool factory Saltwater pool LX 12x24 oval , Its has resin top cap and sides are resin coated, But I did notice on the install the 6 center up rights are not resin. I did purchase a salt system and not sure if I should use it now. What do you think and if not what is the next best bet? thanks and great videos. NJ
Yeah I've noticed several pools from the pool Factory that are designed for saltwater are like that. I would call to check with them to make sure this pools warranty for salt and if it is you should be good to go.
I really need somebody to tell me how would you run a pool without regular power, what kind of equipment would you use? I need to work my pool as a doguie park next summer , and i am at a location without power but i have to buy a reliable equipment. By the way i have also a water slide and the exit is from a lighthouse Yes!!! Is crazy but i owe the bank 90 k to be paid in 12 months. Someone!! 🗣pls. Help! Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. 🙏
I just purchased an INTEX ULTRA XTR 18 x 9 above ground pool. It has steel frame that is coated outside and inside. Should I go with salt system or chlorine?
A lot of people put salt systems on those pools but it is going to deteriorate the metal poles of the pool a lot quicker. I guess it really depends on how long you want to keep it.
Does one still need to balance a saltwater pool with all the chemicals (aside from chlorine) at start-up? And also test all the levels throughout the season? Does one need to test the salt level? Any info would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
Every pool on this earth needs to use the balanced chemicals regardless of what's your sanitizer is. And yes you still want to test your water throughout the season. A salt system is only an alternative to keep from putting chlorine in the pool manually.
So since a salt water generator is always continually creating chlorine, does the amount of stabilizer go down as compared to a traditional chlorine pool. I have a 40k gallon pool in direct sunlight. I had an extremely hard time keeping chlorine in the water, and I was constantly adding stabilizer.
The community apartment I live in has a salt water pool but it’s always packed with 30+ people, so I’m reluctant to swim because I’m worried about how sanitary it is. Is there a way I can test the sanitary levels myself with some kind of strip? Or kit? I have children with sensitive immune systems.
I live in the tropics and have a customer base of 3500 pools, our worse pools for algae are chlorine pools, where chlorine is added by customer manually. If you can't stop a pool from going green in the tropics in a salt pool you have miss sized the chlorinator. The hotter the water the higher the demand for chlorine.
Hi, excuse my ignorance but we're going to pay for a construction of a comment pool in our home, it's safe if we make it a salt pool? In the video you say "all resin pool". Thanks in advance for your help.
chemically, why does a salt water pool disinfect with less ppm of chlorine? What other factor in the salt system allows for less ppm of chlorine. That doesnt make sense to me. Thanks, enjoyed the video.
@@abovegroundpros gotcha, thanks. That is similar to what I do in my chlorine pool. I get my CYA up to about 40 and use the HASA liquidator to trickle sodium hypochlorite (bleach) in. I also have a Delta UV light, but I am not too impressed with it. I think it eats chlorine. I check things about once a week in the summer, rarely have issues keeping the the chlorine around 3ppm. If I go out of town for a week, I dump a good dose of chlorine in the pool. If you learn a little chemistry, it isnt hard.
Salt is a great idea until you need to replace the top wall stabilizers. Mine went bad and rusted completely on a Doughboy pool within a few years using it.
SALT WATER CORRODED THROUGH OUR INTEX ULTRA FRAME POOL! So we switched back to chlorine 3 years ago, do miss the ease of salt but having to spend £700 to replace the pool is steep
Stainless steel is recognized as the premium material for marine applications in seawater where it is used for its excellent corrosion resistance, lustre, strength and stiffness. Why is a steel pool not recommended for salt water pools then?
I think this person thinks steel is steel. But there's a huge difference between these metals. Stainless steel and steel are totally different but also similar in a way. You just have to know metals.
I agree with you. Salt water systems are a total scam. I buy a chlorine card for $40 CDN for 100 liters (22 gallons). I put 700ml (0.7L) in per night at the end of the day, after everyone is finished swimming, run the pump for an hour and done. No real work. Salt water systems only generate chlorine when the pump is running. Therefore burning more electricity, and either not making enough or making too much, while it sends the PH through the roof. Then they tell you to add more chemicals to lower the PH. Everyone I know that has got a pool in the last 10 years has been talked into this BS salt water system. I have been dealing with a pool with no problems for over 35 years. If you want to get fished in.... then you should get a salt water system.... after all fish like salt water.
The answer would be yes but you would also have to see what the other components of the pool are made of to see if the salt system is going to affect it
So I have my first above ground pool and its a little 15x48 inch coleman. Loved the pool with regular chlorine system. Now that I know above ground pools will work with this family I bought a Intex 22x52 on clearance to set up next spring/summer. My question is will the salt water system give the metal frame poles problems? Thanks in advance
Thank you! Exactly the information I needed to make a very expensive choice in pool ownership.
Thanks for the objective, clear pros and cons!
Súper detail info. Thank you so much!
Thank you! This was so helpful!
Seriously, way good info. Thanks for posting it. Now know I have to stick with Chlorine as the metal frame won't last with a NaCl system. As it was only a $350 intex pool, we'll stick with CL and upgrade to salt water/resin frame next time around.
Your videos are exceptionally good
I hope you're still enjoying the pool business
Thank you for this video! Very informative.
Super awesome info well put together !!! Thank you so much
VERY GOOD EXPLAINED. SHORT AND CLEAR. PROFESSIONAL VIDEO.
I'm new to pools and still learning about them. I just bought a house with a traditional freshwater pool in it. I am inclined to going salt. Although there is an additional investment required ($600 - $1,500) for the chlorine generator and associated controls, I think that is minimal in the long run. I need something clarified though. What I have is an inground pool that is rimmed with tiles to show the water line and what looks a painted liner behind poured concrete (I think). The deck around the pool is concrete. Would my setup work well as a salt water conversion?
A little trick I have learned to get rid of algae in a pool,put a mr clean magic eraser in your skimmer box, then after about a week, you will see what I mean !
Thank you. I hear concerns about flaking in Salt water. Can you address that?
Great info man, great video. Told me everything I wanted to know.
we love our salt pool, to start up pool from scratch with salt cost about $300, ours take 18 bags for 25.000 gal. Note salt cell cost to replace starts about $200+ salt system great does not fade clothes, no burning eyes, no dry skin, no chlorine taste or smell
Great video! Much thanks for this info.
Excellent presentation !!!
good stuff brother, good stuff
tyvm...
very good information
Question : how exactly seawater fit into this ?
I know this is an older video but the one big caveat that has recently become an issue is how much a salt chlorinator raises the PH to extremely high amounts. And while you are talking about Above Ground Pools, those who have in ground 30-40K gallon pools is a bigger task to maintain with salt, especially in regards to upfront costs, replacing the salt cell when it fails, and dealing with high PH levels that will corrode the plaster if not dealt with on a weekly basis. You're video was very informative but I think it needs to updated at this point, at least based on other things I have seen on YT and read about on this subject.
I agree with you. Salt water systems are a total scam. I buy a chlorine card for $40 CDN for 100 liters (22 gallons). I put 700ml (0.7L) in per night at the end of the day, after everyone is finished swimming, run the pump for an hour and done. No real work. Salt water systems only generate chlorine when the pump is running. Therefore burning more electricity, and either not making enough or making too much, while it sends the PH through the roof. Then they tell you to add more chemicals to lower the PH. Everyone I know that has got a pool in the last 10 years has been talked into this BS salt water system. I have been dealing with a pool with no problems for over 35 years. If you want to get fished in.... then you should get a salt water system.... after all fish like salt water.
The problem is the pool owner. If you don't know how much chlorine to add or when to add it then the problem is the owner not the chlorine. By the way, at this point everyone knows that a salt water pool is a chlorine pool. You just make it with your little in-line generator as opposed to it being made in a factory. Also a salt water pool will continue to make chlorine as long as the pump is running and also continue to raise the PH level. Chlorine dangerous to handle??? Give me a break, it's more dangerous to gas up my lawn mower,snow blower or car.
I have a pool from the pool factory Saltwater pool LX 12x24 oval , Its has resin top cap and sides are resin coated, But I did notice on the install the 6 center up rights are not resin. I did purchase a salt system and not sure if I should use it now. What do you think and if not what is the next best bet? thanks and great videos. NJ
Yeah I've noticed several pools from the pool Factory that are designed for saltwater are like that. I would call to check with them to make sure this pools warranty for salt and if it is you should be good to go.
I really need somebody to tell me how would you run a pool without regular power, what kind of equipment would you use? I need to work my pool as a doguie park next summer , and i am at a location without power but i have to buy a reliable equipment. By the way i have also a water slide and the exit is from a lighthouse Yes!!! Is crazy but i owe the bank 90 k to be paid in 12 months. Someone!! 🗣pls. Help! Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. 🙏
How do you handle shocking in the summer when you open your pool? I typically get algea and need to shock the pool to get rid of it.
+Eric H I always shock a pool at the beginning of the season for the first time whether it's a chlorine or a salt system pool.
I just purchased an INTEX ULTRA XTR 18 x 9 above ground pool. It has steel frame that is coated outside and inside. Should I go with salt system or chlorine?
A lot of people put salt systems on those pools but it is going to deteriorate the metal poles of the pool a lot quicker. I guess it really depends on how long you want to keep it.
Does one still need to balance a saltwater pool with all the chemicals (aside from chlorine) at start-up? And also test all the levels throughout the season? Does one need to test the salt level? Any info would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
Every pool on this earth needs to use the balanced chemicals regardless of what's your sanitizer is. And yes you still want to test your water throughout the season. A salt system is only an alternative to keep from putting chlorine in the pool manually.
Do you float easier in a salt water pool? like how we float better in ocean water
compared to fresh water.
No, salt water in the ocean is 11 times stronger than a pool.
Salt no good with a vinal pool?
So since a salt water generator is always continually creating chlorine, does the amount of stabilizer go down as compared to a traditional chlorine pool. I have a 40k gallon pool in direct sunlight. I had an extremely hard time keeping chlorine in the water, and I was constantly adding stabilizer.
No stabilizer is needed all the same or the Sun's just going to eat all that chlorine up.
Does this also apply to in ground pools?
On the metal parts of the pool yes but not near as much as an aboveground.
The community apartment I live in has a salt water pool but it’s always packed with 30+ people, so I’m reluctant to swim because I’m worried about how sanitary it is. Is there a way I can test the sanitary levels myself with some kind of strip? Or kit? I have children with sensitive immune systems.
Sure. Go to a pool store and buy a strip test kit and you can use that.
OR you could have the pool store test it for you. Usually pool stores will test the pool water for free.
thanks, this info. we last forever.
Great video!
great
If the chlorine content of a salt pool is so much less than using chlorine, is it any less effective at sanitization?
No. A salt system can keep the chlorine level low consistently because it's constantly pump and chlorine into the pool at a very low rate.
@@abovegroundpros Why couldn't you just add a lower amount of chlorine to match that of a salt system?
I live in the tropics. A pool is very susceptible to algae. Will chlorine or salt work best to keep it at bay?
I would probably recommend chlorine because of salt system may keep the chlorine level so low that you may still have problems.
I live in the tropics and have a customer base of 3500 pools, our worse pools for algae are chlorine pools, where chlorine is added by customer manually. If you can't stop a pool from going green in the tropics in a salt pool you have miss sized the chlorinator. The hotter the water the higher the demand for chlorine.
Hi, excuse my ignorance but we're going to pay for a construction of a comment pool in our home, it's safe if we make it a salt pool? In the video you say "all resin pool". Thanks in advance for your help.
+Milly González if you make concrete then yes you'll be fine
+Milly González meant
Thanks so much for your fast reply. Hi from Puerto Rico, we LOVE your hint videos. :)
chemically, why does a salt water pool disinfect with less ppm of chlorine? What other factor in the salt system allows for less ppm of chlorine. That doesnt make sense to me. Thanks, enjoyed the video.
The way a salt system works is it slowly pumps chlorine in the water virtually consistently which allows you to keep your chlorine level really low.
@@abovegroundpros gotcha, thanks. That is similar to what I do in my chlorine pool. I get my CYA up to about 40 and use the HASA liquidator to trickle sodium hypochlorite (bleach) in. I also have a Delta UV light, but I am not too impressed with it. I think it eats chlorine. I check things about once a week in the summer, rarely have issues keeping the the chlorine around 3ppm. If I go out of town for a week, I dump a good dose of chlorine in the pool. If you learn a little chemistry, it isnt hard.
What is the cheapest long-term solution for a resin pool--salt or chlorine?
chlorine
Salt is a great idea until you need to replace the top wall stabilizers. Mine went bad and rusted completely on a Doughboy pool within a few years using it.
Doughboys have never been designed for salt use.
ok so i have a colmen 22 ft pool can it handle a salt water system?
No
You must have a different type of filter pump
I have a johnny weissmuller titan. Its mainly aluminum, would salt system work?
No sir. It won't rust the aluminum but it will speed up the corroding process
Copy. Thanks for the reply. Am I stuck with chlorine or do you have any alternative?
There's a ton of other Alternatives like mineral systems for ozone generators or Baquicil. You're just have to Google them and see which one you like.
SALT WATER CORRODED THROUGH OUR INTEX ULTRA FRAME POOL! So we switched back to chlorine 3 years ago, do miss the ease of salt but having to spend £700 to replace the pool is steep
will the Ultra XTR corroded also?
Yes
@@stoner27th yes ours was the ultra, it lasted 2 years w salt water 8 with chlorine and no rust
If you go with a salt water pool and don't like it can you switch to a chlorine pool?
Yes
Does the salt water one still kill a lot of bacteria?
Salt generators produce chlorine from the salt in the water so yes it will go back to it
I was wondering why that dog couldn't go in in that add .But I see now .
Stainless steel is recognized as the premium material for marine applications in seawater where it is used for its excellent corrosion resistance, lustre, strength and stiffness. Why is a steel pool not recommended for salt water pools then?
Because it's not made out of stainless steel
I think this person thinks steel is steel. But there's a huge difference between these metals. Stainless steel and steel are totally different but also similar in a way. You just have to know metals.
I have always had a chlorine system in my pools so I will stick with what I know !
Why did you look up this video then lol
I agree with you. Salt water systems are a total scam. I buy a chlorine card for $40 CDN for 100 liters (22 gallons). I put 700ml (0.7L) in per night at the end of the day, after everyone is finished swimming, run the pump for an hour and done. No real work. Salt water systems only generate chlorine when the pump is running. Therefore burning more electricity, and either not making enough or making too much, while it sends the PH through the roof. Then they tell you to add more chemicals to lower the PH. Everyone I know that has got a pool in the last 10 years has been talked into this BS salt water system. I have been dealing with a pool with no problems for over 35 years. If you want to get fished in.... then you should get a salt water system.... after all fish like salt water.
@@storypunman lol salt system is not bs I dont know what your talking about
What do you think of salt systems made by intex pools? I ask cause you said it needs all resin pool.
A salt system is definitely going to eat up and Intex pool prematurely. I've seen it happen over and over again.
Above Ground Pros that’s odd that they make it for their pools probably so they can sell new liners
its easy and cheap upgrades and change my pool to all salt ready pool can get the parts from home depot or lowes .
Is salt recommended for hot tubs?
No. It will eat up the heater coil.
@@abovegroundpros many I ground pools come with spas. Yet salt pools are recommended. Are you saying this is not a good idea then if you have a spa?
Can I use a salt system in a concrete pool?
The answer would be yes but you would also have to see what the other components of the pool are made of to see if the salt system is going to affect it
So I have my first above ground pool and its a little 15x48 inch coleman. Loved the pool with regular chlorine system. Now that I know above ground pools will work with this family I bought a Intex 22x52 on clearance to set up next spring/summer. My question is will the salt water system give the metal frame poles problems? Thanks in advance
It will. Check this video out for details: ua-cam.com/video/fZz190MGuxA/v-deo.html
Simple answer. They are the same thing. Only difference is the delivery method.
Do salt water pools produce algae?
Algae can get in any water.
And never put bleach in your pool instead of regular chlorine!
What's the difference? Household chlorine is just weaker by % but it's the same thing.
Salt IS chlorine.
in salt there is chloride, it is an ion, chlorine is not. Chlorine is toxic chloride is not.
Duong Tran not enough disinfect pee water, feces water, and bacteria that can potentially kill you. Chlorine will