Reacting To The 4 Nations Face-Off Rosters

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  • @ricefarmer42069
    @ricefarmer42069 22 години тому +25

    Them not picking Logan Thompson is an absolute abysmal Canadian decision. It is clear that politics are playing a role in the selection in some of the players.

    • @ricefarmer42069
      @ricefarmer42069 22 години тому +5

      ALSO NO JONH CARLSON???????????????????????

    • @MikeBartner
      @MikeBartner  21 годину тому +11

      Capitals go hosed

    • @OuiLeH
      @OuiLeH 19 годин тому

      They should've picked Thompson over Binnington, he sucks ass

    • @JM-gj7de
      @JM-gj7de 16 годин тому

      @@ricefarmer42069 Too old and slow, that's why. Despite his size (6-3), Carlson isn't particularly good at defending either. He's a PP specialist and USA has plenty of younger, faster players to choose from.

  • @ogdentaylor7473
    @ogdentaylor7473 21 годину тому +25

    Joel Armia is always a beast for his country, and a PK specialist

    • @vilsfrid1566
      @vilsfrid1566 11 годин тому

      He has had only one good tournament on the men's stage though. So hard to say that he has always been a beast. He has only been to two. In the juniors he was great though.

  • @brendanplays3942
    @brendanplays3942 22 години тому +31

    Call me insane and biased, I would take both John Carlson and luke hughes over hanifin. Luke has been so impressive

    • @MikeBartner
      @MikeBartner  21 годину тому +9

      Agreed Hanifin is overhyped IMO

    • @bho30758
      @bho30758 20 годин тому +2

      Vlasic over hanifin

    • @GirthyBettman
      @GirthyBettman 19 годин тому +1

      For VGK Hanifin has been on ice for for the last 15/17 goals against😅😅

    • @TGalaxy24
      @TGalaxy24 15 годин тому +2

      He is -7 in vegas 😂

  • @spencesportsnetwork147
    @spencesportsnetwork147 22 години тому +20

    Capitals disrespected

    • @MikeBartner
      @MikeBartner  21 годину тому +2

      Right, 0 players that's so insane

    • @johntran2252
      @johntran2252 15 годин тому +1

      Agree. Probably tons of political crap behind the scenes.

  • @gabrielpjatak7036
    @gabrielpjatak7036 21 годину тому +11

    USA not taking Keller is the most shocking to me

    • @JM-gj7de
      @JM-gj7de 17 годин тому

      I'd take Keller over Guentzel, that's for sure. Keller is a far better skater and playmaker. He drives play. Guentzel is rather static. Just hangs out by the net and scores a lot. That said, I'd take Tage Thompson over both of them. How the hell can USA pass on a 6-6 center with 13 goals in 20 games!? Smh...

    • @zestplays
      @zestplays 13 годин тому

      @@JM-gj7deGuentzel has the playoff pedigree same thing can’t be said for Keller since he hasn’t made the playoffs so you don’t know how he performs under pressure it’s a much safer choice then Keller.

    • @JM-gj7de
      @JM-gj7de 4 години тому

      @@zestplays I know exactly how Guentzel performs under pressure. I've been watching him play hockey since his days at Hill-Murray High School. I'm not at all outraged at his selection. I just don't understand how he gets chosen over Keller...a guy with a superb Team USA pedigree, captain of his team and a driver of play. Or, Thompson...a 6-6 monster center with an absolute bomb of a shot. Guentzel has a lot of value. Just see others as having more.

  • @mattgrassi5293
    @mattgrassi5293 15 годин тому +2

    Mike on behalf of all sharks fans, thank you for mentioning Eklund and Zetterlund being snubbed🙏🙏

  • @YuseiFudo52
    @YuseiFudo52 20 годин тому +9

    “Eklund maybe more of a skill softer guy” he’s actually improved his two way game a lot. He uses his speed and body positioning very well to win puck battles. He also isn’t afraid to use his body despite being a smaller player. He’s also great on the PK.
    I feel like people look at his height and the stat sheet and just assume he’s some offense only, small skill guy. He could definitely grind it out on the 4th line wing for this team Sweden roster

    • @crashthenethockey6115
      @crashthenethockey6115 18 годин тому +1

      100% Eklund definitely has some grit to his game!

    • @debr4265
      @debr4265 9 годин тому

      Against other stars hes not ready

  • @jfkst1
    @jfkst1 22 години тому +13

    I'd take Thompson over Kreider and Trochek.
    Agreed on Eklund being a big miss.
    Don't think Hyman or Bedard deserve it. Would definitely have Bouchard or Weegar over Sanheim regardless. Montembeault is a weak choice IMO.

    • @MikeBartner
      @MikeBartner  21 годину тому +1

      You know puck!

    • @TGalaxy24
      @TGalaxy24 15 годин тому +1

      Bouchard is a really good offensive dmen but he don’t gonna have pp time in this team (maybe if he was on the second pp but im not sure that the second pp will have a good toi) and he is not really reletable in the defensive zone
      In an tournament like that, if you have already a guy that run your pp (Makar) you dont pick a dmen that gonna be pretty bad in the d zone

  • @rangers2124
    @rangers2124 21 годину тому +4

    Trocheck is arguably the best center face-off guy in the league. Plays gritty hockey and is good on both sides. Proven playoff performer. I know he is struggling but he is very valuable.

  • @Mitchellweber_
    @Mitchellweber_ 20 годин тому +7

    How did Suzuki not make, it like what!!!!

  • @CoalPolmer
    @CoalPolmer 20 годин тому +4

    Brodin as an extra is INSANE! He is one of if not the best shutdown defensemen in the NHL.

    • @alexwind7123
      @alexwind7123 14 годин тому +1

      Agreed! The Sweds might have the best defense imo

  • @CertifiedBenchwarmer
    @CertifiedBenchwarmer 19 годин тому +6

    Eklund and zetterlund should be on Sweden and I want to know how much montembault paid to get onto team Canada

    • @alexwind7123
      @alexwind7123 14 годин тому

      Shocking how damn Arvdisson made it over them!

  • @Blue_2486
    @Blue_2486 21 годину тому +6

    Sanheim is top 5 on TOI he’s improved a lot better offensively and defensively also having chemistry with tk? don’t understand the disrespect imo

    • @pipoj5
      @pipoj5 15 годин тому +1

      He just hates flyers

    • @sfara2845
      @sfara2845 10 годин тому

      @@pipoj5fr he just corny for hating on them all the time

  • @MTLNathan06
    @MTLNathan06 21 годину тому +7

    I think Suzuki, Tavares or Scheifele could’ve gotten a spot over Bennet, Jarvis and Stone

    • @TGalaxy24
      @TGalaxy24 15 годин тому +1

      Cerelli also
      I know Cooper is the coach but Suz has a better production last year and their production is pretty equal this year
      In my opinion scheifele is a better option to

    • @Frizzyy
      @Frizzyy 10 годин тому

      Stone is a solid pick for a fairly offence heavy team picking a good two way forward is smart, i do agree otherwise

  • @dolewhiplash
    @dolewhiplash 22 години тому +12

    Biggest snubs were Weegar, Eklund, and both Thompsons. Everyone else you can argue both for and against.

    • @MikeBartner
      @MikeBartner  21 годину тому +2

      1000% agreed!

    • @peterdibella3566
      @peterdibella3566 21 годину тому +1

      John Carlson was also snubbed he’s having a great year

    • @Huskies2308
      @Huskies2308 21 годину тому +7

      Like Logan Thompson is LITTERALY the best goalie Canada has right now. Crazy how they didn't choose him

  • @Frizzyy
    @Frizzyy 10 годин тому +2

    Biggest suprises for me where Eklund, Scheifle, Weegar, Keller and Thompson

    • @MikeBartner
      @MikeBartner  4 години тому

      Eklund and Tage are top for me

  • @Duck-gk3rq
    @Duck-gk3rq 21 годину тому +6

    NO Capitals bro thats so dumb. Wilson, Strome, Calrson, AND Thompson all deserved to be on at least one team.

    • @pipoj5
      @pipoj5 15 годин тому

      Tom wilson💀

    • @Duck-gk3rq
      @Duck-gk3rq 14 годин тому

      @pipoj5 he was about point per game and playing top tier defense lol.

  • @danikasmith5487
    @danikasmith5487 15 годин тому +1

    I think Adam lowry really should've atleast been the 13th forward. Defensively incredible considering the goalie situation.

  • @DocPhil1
    @DocPhil1 19 годин тому +4

    Eklund one of the biggest snubs smh, their gonna see why they should have picked him

    • @sharkhaos_probably
      @sharkhaos_probably 15 годин тому +3

      As a Sharks fan I'm proud of all these people coming to his defense and saying he was snubbed

  • @MaddoxTemple
    @MaddoxTemple 20 годин тому +4

    Sanheim has more points than weegar mhm

  • @jaimegil6872
    @jaimegil6872 22 години тому +4

    Blackwoods having such a good season think he should’ve had a look

  • @crashthenethockey6115
    @crashthenethockey6115 22 години тому +5

    Can't believe Eklund didn't make it!

    • @WatchLiveClips
      @WatchLiveClips 21 годину тому

      great player but only 5 goals so far is not very impressing

    • @MikeBartner
      @MikeBartner  21 годину тому +1

      Crazy stuff, better make it in 2026

    • @RIS3N1
      @RIS3N1 20 годин тому

      ​​@@WatchLiveClips But he's been so much better than other players on the roster

    • @crashthenethockey6115
      @crashthenethockey6115 18 годин тому +1

      @@WatchLiveClips The kids got 23 pts in 27 games. Arvidsson has 5pts in 16 and will probably be on IR

  • @KanersCabride
    @KanersCabride 21 годину тому +3

    John Carlson should be there over Faber he’s been underrated his whole career it’s fried that he got cut, he’s kinda like Petro but with more offence. I’d be furious if I was an American fan

    • @KanersCabride
      @KanersCabride 21 годину тому +1

      Only returned from 2014 and a 2018 Cup winner

  • @johntran2252
    @johntran2252 15 годин тому +2

    Agree on team sweden zetterlund and eklund were egregious snubs.

    • @sharkhaos_probably
      @sharkhaos_probably 15 годин тому

      Eklund? Absolutely. Zetterlund? Arguable, I could have seen it going either way (as a sharks fan).

  • @Christopher.Colberg
    @Christopher.Colberg 14 годин тому +1

    hey mike, ive seen no comments on dobson, did he decline to play? i thought he was forsure a top 4 dman for canada.

  • @Serenessl1994
    @Serenessl1994 4 години тому

    Don't forget it's likely not all players want to participate in this tournament. It's possible some were asked and turned down the offer for the time with their family

  • @brettmcmurray6999
    @brettmcmurray6999 22 години тому +3

    Watched on 10x speed and I completely agree Eklund was snubbed

  • @ben_cross21
    @ben_cross21 Годину тому

    Pretty disrespectful not picking a single capital player, they’re at the top of the eastern conference and they have players having really strong season. Strome top 10 in points in the entire league, John Carlson is still an absolute beast, Logan Thompson has better stats/play than all of these Canadian goalies

  • @Blue_2486
    @Blue_2486 21 годину тому +2

    Can’t believe they put krides Vinny over Cole,tage,boeser,even debrinct

    • @debr4265
      @debr4265 9 годин тому

      You cant have all four all offense lines

  • @Poldylox
    @Poldylox 16 годин тому

    Sanheim has been good offensively for Philly, he’s an excellent skater, can play both sides, great defensively. I understand that’ll weegar shout but Yh. Horrible seeing some of the sanheim hate on twitter. Parayko is more of a shock than sanheim imo.

  • @Ecliptonian
    @Ecliptonian 21 годину тому +3

    That US team is disgusting 🤢

  • @Alex_Eder
    @Alex_Eder 17 годин тому +1

    Big game clutch performer Carter Verhaeghe snubbed

  • @timmytimmy803
    @timmytimmy803 20 годин тому +3

    I don’t get Parayko over Dobson

    • @debr4265
      @debr4265 9 годин тому

      Better shutdown d

  • @Boredhockeytime1776
    @Boredhockeytime1776 Годину тому

    To be fair Sanheim is better than parayko and pietrangelo and is similar to Theodore. Sanheim also plays the right side as a left d and is very good at playing the off side. Agree with your Nelson take though dude is a consistent 30 and 30 + guy on an offensive decrepit team

  • @naedot.9779
    @naedot.9779 6 годин тому +1

    Jani Hakanpää over Henri Jokiharju is a bit weird.

    • @MikeBartner
      @MikeBartner  4 години тому

      Agreed

    • @naedot.9779
      @naedot.9779 3 години тому

      @MikeBartner considering Jokiharju has been played bigger minutes than Hakanpää I figured he'd get the nod, maybe partner with Mikkola to make a decent second pair.

  • @wedonotcare5772
    @wedonotcare5772 21 годину тому

    Sad Robo didn’t make it but completely get why on pace for only 48 points this year 😢 he misses pavelski

  • @cam2159
    @cam2159 19 годин тому

    As a leafs fan I am happy swayman made it over stolarz. Gives Canada a better chance at winning

  • @Mcbikey24
    @Mcbikey24 19 годин тому +1

    Chychrun should’ve been there over Sanheim, him or Weegar

  • @Mango_8755
    @Mango_8755 2 години тому

    I dont understand the weegar snub

  • @Ferd_Turgeson
    @Ferd_Turgeson 20 годин тому

    Faber over Vlasic… boooooo. Pickles is quickly becoming an under-known beast on D.

  • @lapsuswuolio6178
    @lapsuswuolio6178 19 годин тому

    Missed chance for PuLaAho line. Jesse should have made the team just for nostalgic reasons (2015 world juniors)

  • @Tseuq4gninaem
    @Tseuq4gninaem 20 годин тому

    I know a LOT of these guys really want to represent their nation, but I rather NOT have Samheim, Konecny and Risto playing in this. our play style is TOUGH and I rather have the Flyer Make the Playoffs and frustrate some team(s)

  • @atlasshrugged6435
    @atlasshrugged6435 22 години тому +1

    I called Nelson and got shit for it in the comments section. Looks like I was right.

  • @Your_Role_Model
    @Your_Role_Model 19 годин тому

    Panthers everywhere 🐀🐀🐀

  • @4u2nvHock3y
    @4u2nvHock3y 20 годин тому

    Feel like Suzuki still would be a better 4th line C then Cerelli. Maybe I need to watch more tbl but I mean Suzuki would do a lot as a great faceoff taker. Solid shooter and passer. And also very solid for pk. And no this isn't me just saying every Hab deserves a spot. I still think Armia and Monty were probably the 2 worst picks respectfully

    • @vilsfrid1566
      @vilsfrid1566 10 годин тому

      Cirelli and Suzuki are both great players that are about the same level. The reason why Cirelli was picked is the chemistry between him and Hagel. Might have the best chemistry in the league tbh.

    • @4u2nvHock3y
      @4u2nvHock3y 5 годин тому

      @vilsfrid1566 man that's just crazy recentsy bias. Cirellis career high is 45 points. Suzuki it's 77. Not to mention Suzuki is a better defender

    • @vilsfrid1566
      @vilsfrid1566 5 годин тому

      @@4u2nvHock3y Cirelli has always been better on defence than Suzuki 😂. Also there is the fact that Cirelli is a role player which makes his point amount less. Cirelli has experince on winning and is usually taking the defensive faceoffs. 1st lines are always thrown into the offensive faceoffs and also Suzuki gets more icetime. Cirelli has better tool kit for a tournament like this. I love Suzuki and had him going too. But I too would have chosen Cirelli over him all day every day. And again the Hagel Cirelli chemistry is a huge factor as well.

  • @Habsfan56744
    @Habsfan56744 18 годин тому

    Caufield disrespect!!!

  • @jarynvecchio6433
    @jarynvecchio6433 21 годину тому

    feel suzuki should have made Canada

  • @epe-4910
    @epe-4910 16 годин тому

    Husso snubbed....

  • @tegridy27
    @tegridy27 21 годину тому

    Not a big fan of a mellow Tage in a bottom 6 role lol

  • @chasehough
    @chasehough 21 годину тому

    No Patrick Kane is crazy to me

    • @MikeBartner
      @MikeBartner  21 годину тому

      In 2024 makes plenty of sense imo, he's too much of a liability defensively

    • @chasehough
      @chasehough 20 годин тому

      @ yeah that’s fair but he kinda adds a veteran/ has the cups and everything similar to what you were saying about quick.

    • @JM-gj7de
      @JM-gj7de 16 годин тому +1

      Kane is waaaaaaaaay past his prime, that's why.

    • @chasehough
      @chasehough 14 годин тому

      @ I agree but I still think he would have been a decent option.

  • @King-03530
    @King-03530 20 годин тому +1

    I’m so unbelievably happy that bouchard did not make it🤩

  • @mcj44
    @mcj44 21 годину тому +5

    I genuinely think USA is leaps and bounds ahead of Canada. I don’t know why people act like it’s close. And I’m Canadian.

    • @Junketsuadidas
      @Junketsuadidas 21 годину тому +5

      Because they aren’t, the only thing that brings this close is Canada’s goaltending. Idc where you’re from or what your bias is, any team with Crosby Makar MacKinnon and McDavid is cracked

    • @djardine2520
      @djardine2520 20 годин тому +2

      Canada has the best forwards. If they can outscore their problems, they’ll do well.

    • @matthewschoen3D
      @matthewschoen3D 19 годин тому

      How is USA "leaps and bounds" ahead of Canada? You gotta at least give some justification if you're gonna make a wild claim like that.

    • @djardine2520
      @djardine2520 19 годин тому

      @ yeah, far better goaltending, marginally better d and weaker forwards equates with a saw off in my mind.

    • @mcj44
      @mcj44 19 годин тому

      @matthewschoen3D Far better goaltending obviously but outside of that I think they have much better defence and better forward depth. The forward starpower obviously favours Canada, but it’s not like the US doesn’t have starpower. Matthews - J. Hughes - M. Tkachuk - Q. Hughes as the top 4 players on top of the insane depth they have I’d lean USA for forwards as well
      Canada is structured better if this was an 82 game NHL regular season, but personally i think people are overvaluing that. I’d rather have 12 all stars than a “gritty fourth line” in a 4 team tournament. The fact that Tage Thompson and Clayton Keller would both easily make team Canada proves that.

  • @ljlav5094
    @ljlav5094 22 години тому +1

    You look like Erikson Ek

    • @MikeBartner
      @MikeBartner  21 годину тому +1

      YESSSSSIIIIRR get that all the time

    • @ljlav5094
      @ljlav5094 21 годину тому

      @@MikeBartner 😂😂😂 great video bro once again love the daily content

  • @djardine2520
    @djardine2520 20 годин тому +1

    USA is the most balanced team, but Canada is the most explosive (potentially).

  • @1jheaton
    @1jheaton 22 години тому +1

    Yooo

  • @MichaelT1525
    @MichaelT1525 20 годин тому

    As a biased Canadian I think Canada still easily wins this tournament. USA is really strong and Canada’s goaltending scares me but Canada is just gonna want it more especially McDavid because it’s his first best on best tournament playing for Canada and Sid because it might be his last

  • @jackflemming7367
    @jackflemming7367 19 годин тому +2

    Not having Russia as one of the nations is fucking absurdly ridiculous

    • @jackflemming7367
      @jackflemming7367 19 годин тому

      Also no Capitals players making the team is ridiculous. Logan Thompson, Wilson, Strome, Carlson, and even Chychrun this season all should have gotten consideration. Atleast one should have made it from that group

    • @Alex_Eder
      @Alex_Eder 17 годин тому

      Fucking absurdly ridiculous? Really? Can you even put together a functioning roster of Russian NHL players with their center situation? They'd get cooked

    • @pekinobo
      @pekinobo 16 годин тому

      Unfortunatly it IS politics.

  • @former2u
    @former2u 14 годин тому

    Team USA players are all top tier 2 talent, nothing spectacular.. other than the goalies. Their best player (Mathews) as well as the goalies disappear when the games get intense and meaningful in the playoffs. The US is a good middling team with potentially great goalies. Whereas Canada is a great team throughout with middling goaltenders and a couple of middle level defensemen.

  • @GirthyBettman
    @GirthyBettman 19 годин тому

    Too bad Bennet isn’t gonna have his Matt Tkachuk as his partner to jump people🤣