Remember who Quicksilver's father is in X-Men: Days of Future Past? Remember when Magneto took control of the guns and turned them against the cops in the first X-Men movie? Wanda did a similar thing here. 🤔
I believe that Agnes works for someone different than SWORD, and she is there to keep an eye on Wanda, to keep her happy in her made-believe fantasy (she always shows up when Wanda or someone in her family needs something). Also, Agnes seemed pretty impressed (and kinda scared) when the kids said that Wanda could bring the dead back to life, so she's not aware of how powerful Wanda really is.
I don’t think Wanda lied at all but she is taking advantage of the situation. It’s never been made clear exactly how or why Vision is back and whether it was her doing. Same with the Hex, there is definitely more at play here. And she still hasn’t reversed death as far as we know. If she could then I’m sure she would have brought back her real brother too
EXACTLY!!! because wanda would’ve brought back her twin.. It’s manifesto using or manipulating and taking advantage of her lose and grief and using her as a gate way or door to have complete power because of wanda and visions children (billy and tommy), they’re her kids and half of manifesto (his soul)
@@angeldulcio1182 I think her kids never excisted but in her head they do untill she probably gets back to normal and realises she lost her childeren who were never there in the first place and goes bezerk, creates alter realilties and in the Multiverse her kids excist as Wicken and Speed.
naah i actually believe her.. remember she couldnt control the stork in episode 3? and she also cant control her kids.. AND she was shocked when there was someone ringing the doorbell, and she said "thats wasnt me"..
I think, if we go with the Mephisto theory, he “seduced” her with having the perfect life she wanted in exchange for something. Maybe bringing him into this universe? But she doesn’t want to give it up which is why she’s mad when she leaves the Hex or she’s not in control when she leaves the hex. Her accent comes back then either because she’s super emotional or the person controlling her slips and uses her old angry sokovian accent. I think the appearance of Fox Quicksilver is from, or is, Mephisto’s doing but since he’s from another dimension and the MCU Quicksilver died so quickly maybe he thinks that all Quicksilvers are the same so he chose the wrong Quicksilver but is able to make Wanda think it’s really her brother.
Yeah I thought when I was first watching that Hayward was using his parts, as we saw he was being torn apart, I was thinking that she stole his body because she wanted to stop them from using him as a weapon, and by accident brought him back to life without meaning to, because she is that powerful. I've seen the whole show now so we know that's not 100 correct but that's where my head was at when I was first watching.
The breach alarm was going off when Pietro showed up so he does appear to have come from outside the anomaly. Another thought: there’s 3000 people in the town and Wanda is only using a couple dozen characters for her show. Is everybody else, including hundreds of children, just sitting in their houses staring at the walls not eating until they’re called up?
She's obviously not in control of EVERYTHING. She's in control of a large part of the world, but I believe her when she says that she doesn't control everything and that she doesn't know how any of it started in the first place.
The fact that in the previous episodes Wanda said "I HAD a brother" but in episode 5 she told her kids that "I DO [have], he's far away from here" Yup, Wanda is the one who brought Evan Peters into her reality hexagon.
I think Billy (Wican) brought Quicksilver. WHen he saw his Mum sad about Pietro he brought the closest person he could find. Also there are no kids in Westview as they can't be controled but it begs the question, Where are they?
It’s possible. Maybe because he doesn’t know MCU Pietro, either because he’s only 13 hours old or because QS dies before he was born he just grabbed the closest thing not knowing that not all Pietro’s/Peter’s are the same.
Wanda isn’t lying, she stormed in S.W.O.R.D since she didn’t want them to turn vision into a weapon, she wanted vision to live as vision, she doesn’t know how any of it started and she’s saying the truth, she also forgot some of the things that happened before this although she didn’t know how it happened, she took advantage of it since she had the chance to live freely with a family
See, I think that this whole thing is Agnes needing the twins to exist, and at a certain age. And this whole thing is a way to keep Wanda where she needs her to make that happen, but she can't actually control Wandas mind like the rest of the people in the town, which is the _point_ of the town, I think it works if Wanda _lets_ it work, and she is. Of course she'd want to live in this sitcom world with Vision and their kids, where the biggest problem is the neighbors seeing you levitate the trash to the curb. When they took a shot at her, she went completely back to her normal mind and dealt with the threat to this new world she had, then went back in and let it take over again. I mean, imagine going from this happy world where none of that crap happened, and yanked back into a traumatized mind full of pain. Itd explain why she was so hostile, and why she'd want to go back. Agnes is also there everytime the twins have aged, the second time she actually had a part in it. They aged to be able to keep the dog, that she'd just brought a wholeass doghouse over. And they only didn't do it when the dog died because Wanda talked them out of it, but _she_ found their dog after he died eating _her_ plants. She ignores literal magic happening in front of her (if its a sitcom, maybe shes working the angle of the 'trusted friend who keeps her secret' trope), shes the _only_ one thats been able to comment on anything being different. As soon as Vision and Wanda actually started to talk about whats going on, Pietro shows up. If she has to willingly let her mind be altered to believe thats her actual life, and thats clearly not _her_ Pietro, but it is 'on the show'? Letting it happen means she gets her 'brother' back, and nothing is more important than family. That thing she said in front of Agnes. I thought it kinda looked like she didnt know who he was, but...did? Like if she was in between the TV Wanda and the real Wanda, and she picked which way she wanted to go: TV Wanda whos brothers alive. Im buying the theory that shes Agatha Harkness. Shes a witch, Agnes dresses as one. Agatha was alive through all these eras of shows that are being reproduced. She _is_ an old woman in the comics, but the first time Agnes showed up her hair sty,e was literally identical to Agatha's. Im just going to quote Wikipedia for her powers lol "erecting energy shields or screens with a high degree of durability to both physical and magical damage and creating illusions" and "thought-casting over short or vast distances in a manner virtually identical with telepathy, levitation, and astral projection" But its this bit thats interesting "Agatha claimed that Scarlet Witch's children were actually fragments of the soul of Mephisto and wiped Wanda's memory of her children rather than fight to free the two from Mephisto when he reabsorbed the two" so she's got a comic history of going after the twins, _and_ altering Wandas mind. Annnd last, I think they were definitely experimenting on Visions body (Tony had just died, so they finally could) and thats why Wanda took it. Maybe she did try to bring him back, try and remake the Mind Stone, something big and way more than she'd ever done, and it opened her up for some kind of attack, or her powers getting hijacked, something.
100% spot on. Agnes is def Agatha and all of this may be Mephisto's doing...Mephisto is the director of the entire thing, but Wanda doesn't mind because she gets to play house with Vision.
I 100% agree with you she definitely trying to make it seem like Wanda has full control but there are little things we should know Wanda would never do like I remember when she said she don’t have control of the door bell so maybe when pietro showed up it was to distract the conversation Wanda and vision were having
I also believe that since billy and tommy both have powers billy brought pietro through a multiverse that they aren’t aware of so this should definitely tell them that Wanda isn’t herself because she would never “recast” pietro
Nice foreshadowing with the rifle pointing scene. Similar to her new Dad's scene back in the first "X-Men" movie. "I don't think I can stop them all Charles!"
Notice how we are already seeing the kids powers manifest since he was speaking to the dog telepathically? What if agnes killed the dog because it saw something and she knew about the boys powers which is why she got worried when they mentioned wanda bringing the dog back to life?
The opening is a composite of "Family Ties", "Growing Pains" and "Full House". The theme song is on par with "Growing Pains". Additionally, Elizabeth Olsen's sisters played the twins on "Full House".
Btw you guys mentioned why Monica’s outfit was part Kevlar. Yes it was because she had on a bullet proof vest when she got sucked in so Wanda changed her outfit to 80s fit
Okay theory: Agnes is controlling the world and allowing Wanda to alter it to an extend (couldn’t control the stork, the kids, etc) Agnes is the only one acting different from the others we know are real people that were identified by SWORD she knows the Hex reality isn’t real, she isn’t acting strange when the twins aged unlike when Monica saw Wanda, she’s always the one that shows up when Wanda needs something and she was the one who found the dead dog despite not being anywhere near the incident (if Wanda was in control it could’ve been any townie but it was Agnes specifically) Agnes must’ve brought an alternate version of Pietro to calm down Wanda but altered her memories so she can recognize him as Pietro despite him not being the original actor & instead being from the x-men universe I believe Agnes & Wanda will fight at some point & will bring the x-men into the MCU possibly some people from the Fox verse and the others being recasted
What if the “she” Norm was talking about is Agnes (or as someone else said, Dotty). Maybe Monica was getting in the way/disrupting the script and “she” let Monica loose just enough to remember her briefing on Wanda so she would bring up Pietro causing Wanda to boot her off the show?
Don't forget that Days of Futures Past was set in the 70s and this episode of WandaVision is set in the 80s, so it makes sense that this version of Pietro would be brought in to the show.
It seems Wanda became aware in ep 3 because before that she went to Vision to say "something weird happened." I believe her when she says she isnt control of everything and that she didnt know how it started.
I believe she's telling the truth that she doesn't know how this all started, but at the same time, she's doing everything to hold onto it. I also believe her when she said she can't reverse death -- what she's doing with Vision is more of a projected puppeteering, pushing the personality she knew and wants back into his corpse. It's not really him being alive. And since she can't bring back the dead, but she misses Pietro -- who is "far away" according to her speech to the kids -- her powers just went and found a "far away" version of Pietro to return to her, from another universe.
Nice reaction guys =D We're all sharing opinions, so let's have fun. I think WandaVision is a story about Wanda going through the 5 stages of grief and we're in the middle of that process. Marvel did this once before with Thor, we saw him go through grief in Endgame, but the difference with Thor is that he had a group of friends who stayed by his side and got him through it. Wanda, unfortunately, has none of that. While the Avengers accepted her, she never really fit in. The only one who befriended her was Vision and the two fell in love. Vision was all she had and when he was gone, she broke. Over her losses past and present came front and center and she couldn't bare it. I think we all dismissed the stages a grief when we watched the previous films, but when watching WandaVision and thinking about what came before, this is shaping up to be a story of grief. The five stages of grief are denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. We saw the first two stages in Infinity War and Endgame respectively, and WandaVision takes place just after the bargain stage. How do we know this? Well, look at Wanda! She's nothing like she was when we last saw her--she's laughing, joking and having a ball. How is this possible? It's possible because the residence of Westview are enduring her pain. How do we know this? Because Monica and Norm confirmed this to us in this episode. That said, the warped reality that Westview has become, isn't Wanda's doing. How do we know this? Well, if were she'd wouldn't be learning how things worked inside of it while experiencing it; if she were the creator of the world, why not make it perfect instead of a fixer-upper? Moreover, while Wanda's powers are growing, the warped reality she's made her home is collapsing. If Wanda truly made this reality, we should be seeing fewer glitches, not more of them. Lastly, we cannot overlook her honest with Vision. She didn't want a reality in which Vision wasn't her equal, so when she tells him that she's not doing this and that she's not controlling the people, we should believe her. Wanda hasn't lied to Vision, she's with held information, primarily the fact that he has died. His death is what started all this, and she already knows that she can't deal with that, so why complicate things again and have him thinking about that too? So who's doing this? Agnes? No, I don't think it's Agnes. Agnes is shocked to learn that Wanda can bring back people from the dead. The fact that people can be brought back from the dead seems to be even more surprising to her. If she created this world, why not create a new dog for Billy and Tommy? Better yet, why not resurrect Sparky? She can't. If she can't do that, how could she possibly create a reality warped world like this? Wanda doubts that even she could do this--she thought it was preposterous that Vision thought she was controlling the towns people when he confronted her about it. I do think Agnes has a role to play, and I do think it's significant, but not as big as many seem to think. She's always there with the answer to whatever problem presents itself. Why? I think she's there to keep things from going off the rails. And we all know by now that aside from Wanda that there's only one other person that scares her more, her husband Ralph. Agnes is a nickname for Agatha, and Wanda has a history with a woman named Agatha Harkness in the comics. Agatha was her mentor. That doesn't seem to be quite the role she's playing her, but Agnes is there for Wanda when problems arise. I don't know if Agnes is a witch in the MCU, but I think she is the one responsible for the CBR broadcast. As caretaker of this reality, should be responsible for keeping things running smoothly as well as reporting to her boss, Ralph. So, just who is Ralph? I don't Ralph is a real name, but an alias. Ralph scares the hell out of her, but she won't say so openly, not yet anyway. The time period doesn't allow her to speak out matters like this, so she airs her grievances via jokes that residence in Westview and we viewers dismiss with laughter. So who exactly is Ralph? I think he's the guy every geek on the Internet is claiming he is, Mephisto! What business would Mephisto have in all this anyway? Well, for that answer I think we have to go back to how all this started, the trauma Thanos caused Wanda. He made her watch Vision die twice. And what usually happens to mutants that experience trauma? For some it's a life changing experience that alienates them from friends and families and puts them on a list of dangerous individuals for not fault of their own, and for others it's the catalyst for further mutations. Wanda already had her powers prior to her encounter with Thanos, which is why I believe his actions put Wanda through her secondary mutation with put her more in tune with her chaos magic--notice the difference in mastery of her skills from Infinity War and Endgame, big difference. Chaos magic in the comics has been tied to dark origins, so it wouldn't be a stretch to believe that that's how Mephisto came to find her. The ruler of the underworld would surely feel a power akin to his own, wouldn't you say? Wanda's grief likely called out to him and he responded telepathically as dwells in a different realm. Wanda may not have known who she was talking to or what she was doing--for all she knew should was talking to her inner voice--but when presented the chance at a fresh start and a new life presented itself, she took it! Mephisto doesn't do things for free, there's always a catch. Wanda, likely showed him a world he knew nothing of, a world full of souls right for the taking. All he needed was the means to get there, and that's likely what was bargained. Mephisto likely promised Wanda a fresh start, a chance to live a life she never got to live, free of grief and suffering. In exchange, she'd have to give him a vessel, the means to crossover. As Wanda doesn't know how she and Vision entered Westview, she may have no memory of the deal she made. Her memories have been suppressed, but outside forces have been making them resurface little by little. Will Wanda remember the deal she made? Will it matter? Wanda had a duality to her at times, times when she seemed to confuse even herself--we she ejected Geraldine, she questions herself, you can see this clearly with the subtitles on. She takes on a darker persona. I think Mephisto has charmed Wanda, put a little of him in her. Why do that, well, I think he's doing what Ego did in GotG, his DNA needs to be a part of his vessel. Wanda's seeming immaculate conception was possible because Mephisto is the father of Billy and Tommy, not Vision. Vision's fathering them, but Mephisto is their biological father. I think we're seeing time jumps because this grand illusion can't be kept up forever. Mephisto is incredibly powerful, but his powers are limited outside his realm, and I think that's why we've been seeing more and more glitches as time passes by. Mephisto is speeding things along so that he can claim what is his unripe vessels. In the end, I don't think we'll see that day come, as I think this world and is going to collapse with his involvement revealed before that happens. But I don't think that's going to matter much, as I think this is where the story will sort of follow the comics, but instead of absorbing Billy and Tommy into himself as he did in the comics. I think the three of them will merge into the form he takes when he appears on WandaVision. The realization of what happened and the role Wanda had to play in all this, will likely throw her into depression, the fourth stage of grief and kicking off the events that take us into Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. At least that's how I see things playing out. Oh, regarding Even Peters, don't get your hopes up. Go back and watch the exchange between Director Hayward and Agent Woo. While Hayward tried to get Woo to agree that some sinister name was given to her, her mutant name, Woo assures people that that wasn't the case. I think that was done to remind the audience that in the MCU that Wanda and Pietro were never given referred to by their mutant names. Even Peters, however, was almost always called Quicksilver in Fox's X-Men movie. While the fandom sees no difference here, I think we should all notice that the MCU made it a point to point this out to us all. Darcy even says that Wanda recast Pietro, not Quicksilver. I think we're going to learn in a few days that Even Peters is a resident of Westview playing a part like everyone else there. He's not from the multiverse like many are hoping. It's going to be interesting to see what happens when its revealed that he has no powers, thought it might not matter as Wanda already gave Pietro's powers to Vision. Pietro is playing an Uncle Jesse-type character and I think that's where he'll stay. I think this cameo is going to end with a little disappointment for some in the fandom, as I don't think it's going to play out as they're hoping. I guess we'll see in a few days.
Remember the Lagos commercial, the liquid could be a call to the ether. Also guys OT, remember Monica was still glowing when she pushed her out, so... powers?
Wanda is in as much control as Agnes (or Agnes's husband Ralph she keeps mentioning) wants her to be. Agnes is manipulating her to push her powers. Multiple times throughout the episode Agnes tries to get Wanda to do things (reverse time and resurrect the dog). And Wanda was clearly very shocked of Pietro showing up, which means she didn't summon him I think Wanda is sort of suffering from Stockholm syndrome. The hex is her perfect world so of course she wants to stay there.
My personal theory is that the kids conjured Pietro after she said that him being far away made her sad AND that she can't bring back the dead. So the brought back the living one who was very far away to make her happy. I think when Norm said it was fake, he was referring to the email as defense against it being real. I agree that Agness may be involved and helped create this world. I think she's in control of what she interacts with and Agness controls the rest. As Wanda and Vision's power come ftom the stone and she was able to destroy it, maybe she can rebuild it as her power is its power. As she didn't lose her power with the destruction of the stone maybe it partially lives within her. Wherever she is in the town is adjusted fir her. The rest should be the town before this happened.
It would be amazing to be on the creative teams for these Marvel shows and movies. They probably have a whole division of true MarvelSuperFans now on payroll called the "WTF Division" and they think up of amazing ways to blow our minds and make us think up crazy predictions, as well as rage demanding answers lol
Actually, Guys, I think Wanda is completely HONEST when she says that doesn't know how this started in the first place. Someone has trapped her there, and she's under the impression that she's in control of things. She's being power-drained, in some way. The fact that the moment Wanda and Vision agree that neither one of them knows what's going on, suddenly a "version" of Pietro appears, to distract her and Vision, screams an outside force, manipulating things. My bet is on, Nightmare being the villain in this story, if it isn't Mephisto. Then again, Grim Reaper could be playing a role in this, as well. I wouldn't be shocked if it ended up being a conglomerate of all 3.
She's not lying. Two lines to remember: -Agnes: Kids, can't control them. No matter how hard you try. -Vision: Why are there no other children in town? I'm thinking Agnes is in charge or serving who is in charge, and has hidden the children of the town some place because they would intefere with the illusion since they can't be controlled. Wanda is being used for access to get cosmic power.
the baby are Tommy aka Wiccan and Billy Speedy from the comics aka also The Young Averages. Also the 80's was Family Ties also Growing Pains also what her the actress who sister was in Full House Mary-Kate and Ashely Olsen
Mephisto, there is no way around it at this point. Agnes is AG-etha Hark-NES-s with a name change to not make it so obvious, but House of M is the template for the series with out a doubt. Also Wanda can't bring back the dead, powering a robot is not bringing back the dead. That is why multi-verse Pietro is being used.
A think wiccan brought him. Wiccan has the same power as wanda. Extremely powerfull She told the kids her brother was far away, not dead. So a think the kid fuked up bringing in who he thought was peitro thinking he was doing his mum a favour not knowing peitro is killed in her reality. Thoughts? This isn't the big reveal. Bettany says its am actor he's always wanted to work with, can't see it being even Peters lmao. Plus the actor is set to have explosive scenes as in fighting him so na more people gonna pop up. Am thinking it's Reed Richards the aerospace engineer monica was texting. Shes bein manipulated by Agatha. Vision is doing what he did to ultron to the people in westview. When he touches there mind remember
Wiccan did something like that for his boyfriend in the comics, Teddy was feeling bad because he missed his mother, so Billy brought a mother from another universe.
I'm sooooo with you on the part when Wanda went to speak with Sword. I'm thinking it's a decoy, and the real villain is behind that decoy. But Idk, we gonna have to see
The longer it goes the more her grasp loosens or skips. Agnes doesn’t react to her powers, vision is starting to become autonomous, the email from Darcy breaks through the barrier and it seems like the signal overrides her control/the “actors” like Woo did with the radio. I think the biggest tell is Vision being able to do things without her knowledge. It may just be that she’s getting comfortable and isn’t as scared as when she first started but i think it’s just starting to get to be too much for her. Or the arrival of the kids is siphoning off some of her control, mutant mom brain. But, as you can see, I’m just as oblivious as the rest of us theorists lol.
Okay I’m pretty sure it was confirmed that WandaVision will tie into the next Doctor Strange movie. The new Spider-man, based on the cast, is going to be dealing with the spiderverse and all the different spidermen. Kathryn Hahn, who plays Agnes ALSO voiced Doc Ock in Spider-man into the Spiderverse- so what if she is somewhat in control or a plant of some sort in this town. Just a theory 🤷♀️
Im pretty sure what Wanda has done is accidently ripped a hole in the multiverse to get her brother back, by plucking him from the other side the MCU (The X-Men) and bringing him here. Remember that Wanda's powers alter/rewrite reality. So I guess that means she is now merging the X-men universe with this side of the MCU. Because she can't really reverse death, it's the only way for Wanda to get her brother back, but in a way she didn't even intend or know she could do.
Agness=AGatha HarkNESS. If we are pulling stuff out of the comics the kids are Speed (Thomas "Tommy"), and Wiccan (William "Billy"). I think Wiccan is actually doing all the age changing, and such since he has powers similar to his mother. Speed of course has powers similar to his uncle if the name did not give that way.
Wanda is breaking down the barriers multiverse, They are bringing Evan in so that they can bring X-Men across, hopefully including Fassbender and McAvoy. This is how I think you're going to do it. Quicksilver + Magneto in Wandavision Professor X and a couple more in Dr Strange 2 Storm In Thor 4 if she's not already in from Dr Strange 2. I don't think she brought him in, I think the puppeteer (Mephisto I assume) did.
Don't know why this came to my mind now.... maybe from a theory video I saw a few months or earlier, but I truly believe Dottie is actually working for Dr. Strange and is the character Clea from the comics...Might be that Agnes was trying to control Wanda, but now all hell is breaking loose so she's just playing the part and seeing how things turn out.
The Shining + The Omen kids....lil bit of Rosemary's Baby thrown in for effect I first thought they were trying to drown the dog in the sink but got caught so they played it off cuz them kids are creepy
I think its Dee the blonde neighbor is the villain, she mentioned the devil.... Agnes there to protect Wanda. I think Dee or Agnes is the witness protection mission person
I think the writers hinted at this in the birth episode, where she was having labor pains and her coat kept changing, and when it changed into a fur coat, she was shocked at first but then stroked it as if she liked it. She didn't know how this started, but now that it did, she went along with it, and is actively trying to preserve her reality bubble the best she can. The events where it seems that reality is breaking is because she isn't THAT powerful to control everything. My two cents anyway. PS. Didn't Loki's scepter have the mindstone and it controlled all the Avengers in the first movie, making them fight one another?
Pietro (Peter X-Men) says ...hug sister to death... what if he’s death pretending to be Pietro/Peter? Also, he mentions “who’s the popsicle” so does that mean he sees Vision as a corpse?
Look the way most stories work is when half through the story when it's decided that one character is behind everything, it usually means their not and the there is something else extra going on. Now maybe Marvel won't do that? But the fact that she hasn't killed anyone to me is leaving room for her to comeback from a Villain path. And also how most of the other main characters are also defending while the clearly shady head of Sword guy is doing whatever he can to kill her. Likely trying to cover up them doing weapon experiments on Vision. At this point the outside influence is either Agnes/Agatha Harkness (That's a guess, not spoiler.) Or that Dotti character, or something else we haven't seen like Mephisto, Mojo. Agnes said children can't be controlled and there are no children in the town. There's something to that, and the the statement "For the children." Something is up with the kids, and maybe this was done to obtain Wanda's kids. Because she could have been pregnant in Infinitiy War and either she or the audience just didn't no. The way Wanda said "I can't do this on my own." I think is a deeper statement. Also her Hex Magic doesn't work in her kids. So when she tries to use her magic to be like "It's now Monday instead of Saturday." Her kids know it's not Monday but still Saturday. Also I don't know if your aware that Monica is the little girl from the Captain Marvel movie, and she had a not happy reaction to hearing her name. Probably means she's pissed off at Carol for never coming back and seeing her and her mom, especially because she was sick. But Carol might have came and seen her when Monica was snapped. When Wanda walked out of the bubble I legitimately got chills. I also love they named her powers Hex. Because that's what it's called in the comics. And seeing the Fox Quicksilver is fucking awesome. Potentially the first ever Mutant in the MCU, or at the very least the first character /actor from the Fox purchase. Also the Aerospace Engineer has to be Reed Richard's.
I thought House of M, now i'm thinking Multiverse of Madness. That's crazy... right? I forgot if Sparky died in the comics. Gotta check. I thought building up to Infinity War was an accomplishment; Bringing all of these together re: Fox/Sony is huge. And I know the writers from SHIELD are amazing writers re: picking up clues from S1 and S3, not tying it all together till S6 perfectly. This episode and last looks like their writing... when you're like WTH then at the end you're like Dang, that was genius, they showed us the whole time, etc..
For a moment I was believing in her but not anymore. the whole dog is plotting was an excuse and his power is increasing, it shows when he leaves the dome, he brings a living pietro from another universe to fulfill the role of his pietro.
I believe that someone has created this sandbox and has given Wanda free range to play in it. So while Wanda controls everything inside she didn't make this...but since it's giving her what she wants she isn't angry about it.
Crazy idea... it's TV shows, right? Who has insane amounts of power, using multiple WORLDS as settings, to entertain his people? MOJO!!! The entire town is in a pocket Mojoverse. Which is why I'll laugh my ass off if the X-babies show up... or X-Calibur.
I don't think it is quicksilver but either nightmare or mephisto pretending to be him as wanda and "quicksilver" get into fight and she blasts him through a wall. Agnes is a witch but not sure of how in control of the world she is since in one of the trailers you see Vision touch her head and she snaps out of a trace like the guy in the office did and asks if she's dead because vision is
I'm not sure what line works better here for the drone scene. Homosapians and their guns. Or Tonight was meant to be a display of YOUR power. Instead I give you A GLIMPS of mine.
I don’t believe Wanda is behind ALL of this. Notice how Vision started talking sense into her, and then her brother shows up conveniently? (Evan peters version because he was around in the 80s in the alternate universe, but her brother that she knows from age of ultras wasn’t born until later, so Aaron Taylor Johnson as quicksilver doesn’t exist in this time period she’s currently in) sounds like a good way to suck Wanda back into this madness seeing her brother back. But I think someone else sent quicksilver to the house (he probably isn’t real) but we shall see
Ok look, the clues are right there. Agnes is from WHO'S dimension? You've probably met Emma Frost in episode 2. People in that town who doesn't appear to be under mind control are not from there. They can see Vision's hollowed out head. Notice how Agnes tries NOT to look at him, and her reaction when she does, as do certain other people about town? Hence Quicksilver's line "hey, who's the popsicle?" AKA dead guy. The SWORD director stole Vision's body in order to make weapons out of him, she stole him back, and the only way she can keep him safe is by making this show, but at the same time she needs his help to fight off whoever's from the X-Men's dimension that's causing the interdimensional rift, hence the blending of misinformation regarding her name and what she's done that warrants her being treated with respect. And just think, we're only at the halfway mark, with this series jumping off the "House Of M" storyline for phase 4. Hence the Spiderverse being rumored, Thor being a girl, the Kung Fu movie, Blade, and the topper being the Wanda and Dr Strange team up to close the rift. HA!!! Brilliant.
I don't understand why they still believe that Wanda did all that, she maneuvered parts of westview but not everything, clearly there are things that escape her, and she says it and they don't believe it. I believe her because if she had the power she would have revived her brother but she did not, in the last scene she was surprised she had no idea who was ringing her doorbell.
@kirl Yes,Wanda`s also engaging in toxic behavior, traumatized people do that sometimes!IRL, traumatized people often get their experiences discredited because they aren`t acting like saints and people fail to take into account that trauma leaves permanent mental scars that make knowing reality from fantasy or memory very difficult!
There wasn’t a dimensional rift or anything In the X-men Universe he was called Peter not pietro So I do believe he is mcu pietro but recast even Darcy acknowledges that Maybe they mixed both pietros into one person Or Maybe I’m just clueless Also he talks like he would be mcu pietro because he says long lost brother I don’t think Wanda had a counterpart in the X-men movies I saw someone point out that Evan has ATJ pietro’s hair style And let’s say he is X-men pietro what if someone gave him the memories of mcu pietro. Mixing the two and that’s how he knows who Wanda is and maybe the death and vision memories got wiped
It's also important to note that Norm said "she" or "her" so it might not be Wanda or it could be her but I think the show is just compelling us to believe that it's ALL Wanda. It seems like a huge misdirect. We still have a lot to know, but as far as the show has gone, I think Wanda is telling the truth for the most part, she's just denial about the real world.
Remember who Quicksilver's father is in X-Men: Days of Future Past?
Remember when Magneto took control of the guns and turned them against the cops in the first X-Men movie? Wanda did a similar thing here. 🤔
Agnes seems to want to make everyone think Wanda is in full control... Sus...
I believe that Agnes works for someone different than SWORD, and she is there to keep an eye on Wanda, to keep her happy in her made-believe fantasy (she always shows up when Wanda or someone in her family needs something). Also, Agnes seemed pretty impressed (and kinda scared) when the kids said that Wanda could bring the dead back to life, so she's not aware of how powerful Wanda really is.
Even when Norm was awakened he just kept referring to a "she" he never actually said Wanda, maybe theres another "she" thats the real issue.
Or Norm just doesn’t know her name
@@AnacletoEnlatado You might say she's...a supporting character.
Agnes said Dotty was the one in charge and everyone listened to in episode 2.
I don’t think Wanda lied at all but she is taking advantage of the situation. It’s never been made clear exactly how or why Vision is back and whether it was her doing. Same with the Hex, there is definitely more at play here. And she still hasn’t reversed death as far as we know. If she could then I’m sure she would have brought back her real brother too
EXACTLY!!! because wanda would’ve brought back her twin.. It’s manifesto using or manipulating and taking advantage of her lose and grief and using her as a gate way or door to have complete power because of wanda and visions children (billy and tommy), they’re her kids and half of manifesto (his soul)
@@angeldulcio1182 I think her kids never excisted but in her head they do untill she probably gets back to normal and realises she lost her childeren who were never there in the first place and goes bezerk, creates alter realilties and in the Multiverse her kids excist as Wicken and Speed.
naah i actually believe her.. remember she couldnt control the stork in episode 3? and she also cant control her kids.. AND she was shocked when there was someone ringing the doorbell, and she said "thats wasnt me"..
Yup, I think the same, there's someone else who set up these stuff. Wanda maybe only the director not the producer or the original script writer.
I think, if we go with the Mephisto theory, he “seduced” her with having the perfect life she wanted in exchange for something. Maybe bringing him into this universe? But she doesn’t want to give it up which is why she’s mad when she leaves the Hex or she’s not in control when she leaves the hex. Her accent comes back then either because she’s super emotional or the person controlling her slips and uses her old angry sokovian accent.
I think the appearance of Fox Quicksilver is from, or is, Mephisto’s doing but since he’s from another dimension and the MCU Quicksilver died so quickly maybe he thinks that all Quicksilvers are the same so he chose the wrong Quicksilver but is able to make Wanda think it’s really her brother.
She seemed as lost as Vision in the first ep.
Is she semi-repressed too?
Inside and outside Wanda seem so different.
She “stole” his body because they wanted to use his parts as weapons.. she’s angry.
Yeah I thought when I was first watching that Hayward was using his parts, as we saw he was being torn apart, I was thinking that she stole his body because she wanted to stop them from using him as a weapon, and by accident brought him back to life without meaning to, because she is that powerful. I've seen the whole show now so we know that's not 100 correct but that's where my head was at when I was first watching.
Wanda: “What do you possibly have to offer me?”
Will: “A therapist?” Lmao
The breach alarm was going off when Pietro showed up so he does appear to have come from outside the anomaly.
Another thought: there’s 3000 people in the town and Wanda is only using a couple dozen characters for her show. Is everybody else, including hundreds of children, just sitting in their houses staring at the walls not eating until they’re called up?
i saw someone theorize that theyre the audience performing the laugh track against their will
@@renmarie3143 They’re all sitting in front of their tv’s.
She's obviously not in control of EVERYTHING. She's in control of a large part of the world, but I believe her when she says that she doesn't control everything and that she doesn't know how any of it started in the first place.
The fact that in the previous episodes Wanda said "I HAD a brother" but in episode 5 she told her kids that "I DO [have], he's far away from here"
Yup, Wanda is the one who brought Evan Peters into her reality hexagon.
I think Billy (Wican) brought Quicksilver. WHen he saw his Mum sad about Pietro he brought the closest person he could find.
Also there are no kids in Westview as they can't be controled but it begs the question, Where are they?
It’s possible. Maybe because he doesn’t know MCU Pietro, either because he’s only 13 hours old or because QS dies before he was born he just grabbed the closest thing not knowing that not all Pietro’s/Peter’s are the same.
Wanda isn’t lying, she stormed in S.W.O.R.D since she didn’t want them to turn vision into a weapon, she wanted vision to live as vision, she doesn’t know how any of it started and she’s saying the truth, she also forgot some of the things that happened before this although she didn’t know how it happened, she took advantage of it since she had the chance to live freely with a family
Welcome to the multiverse
It's kevlar bc Monica was wearing a bullet proof vest when she was dragged into the hex, they said so in the ep
See, I think that this whole thing is Agnes needing the twins to exist, and at a certain age. And this whole thing is a way to keep Wanda where she needs her to make that happen, but she can't actually control Wandas mind like the rest of the people in the town, which is the _point_ of the town, I think it works if Wanda _lets_ it work, and she is. Of course she'd want to live in this sitcom world with Vision and their kids, where the biggest problem is the neighbors seeing you levitate the trash to the curb. When they took a shot at her, she went completely back to her normal mind and dealt with the threat to this new world she had, then went back in and let it take over again. I mean, imagine going from this happy world where none of that crap happened, and yanked back into a traumatized mind full of pain. Itd explain why she was so hostile, and why she'd want to go back.
Agnes is also there everytime the twins have aged, the second time she actually had a part in it. They aged to be able to keep the dog, that she'd just brought a wholeass doghouse over. And they only didn't do it when the dog died because Wanda talked them out of it, but _she_ found their dog after he died eating _her_ plants. She ignores literal magic happening in front of her (if its a sitcom, maybe shes working the angle of the 'trusted friend who keeps her secret' trope), shes the _only_ one thats been able to comment on anything being different.
As soon as Vision and Wanda actually started to talk about whats going on, Pietro shows up. If she has to willingly let her mind be altered to believe thats her actual life, and thats clearly not _her_ Pietro, but it is 'on the show'? Letting it happen means she gets her 'brother' back, and nothing is more important than family. That thing she said in front of Agnes. I thought it kinda looked like she didnt know who he was, but...did? Like if she was in between the TV Wanda and the real Wanda, and she picked which way she wanted to go: TV Wanda whos brothers alive.
Im buying the theory that shes Agatha Harkness. Shes a witch, Agnes dresses as one. Agatha was alive through all these eras of shows that are being reproduced. She _is_ an old woman in the comics, but the first time Agnes showed up her hair sty,e was literally identical to Agatha's. Im just going to quote Wikipedia for her powers lol "erecting energy shields or screens with a high degree of durability to both physical and magical damage and creating illusions" and "thought-casting over short or vast distances in a manner virtually identical with telepathy, levitation, and astral projection"
But its this bit thats interesting "Agatha claimed that Scarlet Witch's children were actually fragments of the soul of Mephisto and wiped Wanda's memory of her children rather than fight to free the two from Mephisto when he reabsorbed the two" so she's got a comic history of going after the twins, _and_ altering Wandas mind.
Annnd last, I think they were definitely experimenting on Visions body (Tony had just died, so they finally could) and thats why Wanda took it. Maybe she did try to bring him back, try and remake the Mind Stone, something big and way more than she'd ever done, and it opened her up for some kind of attack, or her powers getting hijacked, something.
100% spot on. Agnes is def Agatha and all of this may be Mephisto's doing...Mephisto is the director of the entire thing, but Wanda doesn't mind because she gets to play house with Vision.
I 100% agree with you she definitely trying to make it seem like Wanda has full control but there are little things we should know Wanda would never do like I remember when she said she don’t have control of the door bell so maybe when pietro showed up it was to distract the conversation Wanda and vision were having
I also believe that since billy and tommy both have powers billy brought pietro through a multiverse that they aren’t aware of so this should definitely tell them that Wanda isn’t herself because she would never “recast” pietro
Nice foreshadowing with the rifle pointing scene. Similar to her new Dad's scene back in the first "X-Men" movie. "I don't think I can stop them all Charles!"
Literally just finished watching... (WOW)... what a episode...
Sam is the only one who was as shook about Fox Quicksilver as I was😆
That mustache is FIRE!!!!
Great reaction!
Notice how we are already seeing the kids powers manifest since he was speaking to the dog telepathically?
What if agnes killed the dog because it saw something and she knew about the boys powers which is why she got worried when they mentioned wanda bringing the dog back to life?
Days of future past is from the 80s so the continuity was intact. Welcome home Fox
"Days of Future Past" was set in the `70s,"Apocalypse" was set in the `80s(I know a lot of people didn`t like "Apocalypse", I did.)
21:30 Children are sleeping, because she knows that it is painful to be controlled by her.
"This is gonna break her."
"👀This is gonna break the MCU!"
Facts lol
SWEET DREAMS are made of this
Who am I to disagree?
I've traveled the world and the seven seas
Everybody's looking for something
The opening is a composite of "Family Ties", "Growing Pains" and "Full House". The theme song is on par with "Growing Pains".
Additionally, Elizabeth Olsen's sisters played the twins on "Full House".
Btw you guys mentioned why Monica’s outfit was part Kevlar. Yes it was because she had on a bullet proof vest when she got sucked in so Wanda changed her outfit to 80s fit
Okay theory: Agnes is controlling the world and allowing Wanda to alter it to an extend (couldn’t control the stork, the kids, etc)
Agnes is the only one acting different from the others we know are real people that were identified by SWORD she knows the Hex reality isn’t real, she isn’t acting strange when the twins aged unlike when Monica saw Wanda, she’s always the one that shows up when Wanda needs something and she was the one who found the dead dog despite not being anywhere near the incident (if Wanda was in control it could’ve been any townie but it was Agnes specifically)
Agnes must’ve brought an alternate version of Pietro to calm down Wanda but altered her memories so she can recognize him as Pietro despite him not being the original actor & instead being from the x-men universe
I believe Agnes & Wanda will fight at some point & will bring the x-men into the MCU possibly some people from the Fox verse and the others being recasted
Almost, Agnes/Agatha Harkness is not that powerful. But Mephisto is.
Agnes is not that powerful though, wanda is.
What if the “she” Norm was talking about is Agnes (or as someone else said, Dotty). Maybe Monica was getting in the way/disrupting the script and “she” let Monica loose just enough to remember her briefing on Wanda so she would bring up Pietro causing Wanda to boot her off the show?
Don't forget that Days of Futures Past was set in the 70s and this episode of WandaVision is set in the 80s, so it makes sense that this version of Pietro would be brought in to the show.
I really hope that it’s actually quick silver so days of future past can be cannon to the multiverse
Did you not notice the heavy accent on Wanda when she came out? Head of SWORD is sus.
At this point, the most logical "Enhanced" appearance would be "Mister Doctor." Probably the finale.
It seems Wanda became aware in ep 3 because before that she went to Vision to say "something weird happened." I believe her when she says she isnt control of everything and that she didnt know how it started.
I believe she's telling the truth that she doesn't know how this all started, but at the same time, she's doing everything to hold onto it. I also believe her when she said she can't reverse death -- what she's doing with Vision is more of a projected puppeteering, pushing the personality she knew and wants back into his corpse. It's not really him being alive. And since she can't bring back the dead, but she misses Pietro -- who is "far away" according to her speech to the kids -- her powers just went and found a "far away" version of Pietro to return to her, from another universe.
Nice reaction guys =D
We're all sharing opinions, so let's have fun.
I think WandaVision is a story about Wanda going through the 5 stages of grief and we're in the middle of that process. Marvel did this once before with Thor, we saw him go through grief in Endgame, but the difference with Thor is that he had a group of friends who stayed by his side and got him through it.
Wanda, unfortunately, has none of that. While the Avengers accepted her, she never really fit in. The only one who befriended her was Vision and the two fell in love. Vision was all she had and when he was gone, she broke. Over her losses past and present came front and center and she couldn't bare it. I think we all dismissed the stages a grief when we watched the previous films, but when watching WandaVision and thinking about what came before, this is shaping up to be a story of grief. The five stages of grief are denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. We saw the first two stages in Infinity War and Endgame respectively, and WandaVision takes place just after the bargain stage. How do we know this? Well, look at Wanda! She's nothing like she was when we last saw her--she's laughing, joking and having a ball. How is this possible? It's possible because the residence of Westview are enduring her pain. How do we know this? Because Monica and Norm confirmed this to us in this episode.
That said, the warped reality that Westview has become, isn't Wanda's doing. How do we know this? Well, if were she'd wouldn't be learning how things worked inside of it while experiencing it; if she were the creator of the world, why not make it perfect instead of a fixer-upper? Moreover, while Wanda's powers are growing, the warped reality she's made her home is collapsing. If Wanda truly made this reality, we should be seeing fewer glitches, not more of them. Lastly, we cannot overlook her honest with Vision. She didn't want a reality in which Vision wasn't her equal, so when she tells him that she's not doing this and that she's not controlling the people, we should believe her. Wanda hasn't lied to Vision, she's with held information, primarily the fact that he has died. His death is what started all this, and she already knows that she can't deal with that, so why complicate things again and have him thinking about that too?
So who's doing this? Agnes? No, I don't think it's Agnes. Agnes is shocked to learn that Wanda can bring back people from the dead. The fact that people can be brought back from the dead seems to be even more surprising to her. If she created this world, why not create a new dog for Billy and Tommy? Better yet, why not resurrect Sparky? She can't. If she can't do that, how could she possibly create a reality warped world like this? Wanda doubts that even she could do this--she thought it was preposterous that Vision thought she was controlling the towns people when he confronted her about it. I do think Agnes has a role to play, and I do think it's significant, but not as big as many seem to think. She's always there with the answer to whatever problem presents itself. Why? I think she's there to keep things from going off the rails. And we all know by now that aside from Wanda that there's only one other person that scares her more, her husband Ralph. Agnes is a nickname for Agatha, and Wanda has a history with a woman named Agatha Harkness in the comics. Agatha was her mentor. That doesn't seem to be quite the role she's playing her, but Agnes is there for Wanda when problems arise. I don't know if Agnes is a witch in the MCU, but I think she is the one responsible for the CBR broadcast. As caretaker of this reality, should be responsible for keeping things running smoothly as well as reporting to her boss, Ralph.
So, just who is Ralph? I don't Ralph is a real name, but an alias. Ralph scares the hell out of her, but she won't say so openly, not yet anyway. The time period doesn't allow her to speak out matters like this, so she airs her grievances via jokes that residence in Westview and we viewers dismiss with laughter. So who exactly is Ralph? I think he's the guy every geek on the Internet is claiming he is, Mephisto!
What business would Mephisto have in all this anyway? Well, for that answer I think we have to go back to how all this started, the trauma Thanos caused Wanda. He made her watch Vision die twice. And what usually happens to mutants that experience trauma? For some it's a life changing experience that alienates them from friends and families and puts them on a list of dangerous individuals for not fault of their own, and for others it's the catalyst for further mutations. Wanda already had her powers prior to her encounter with Thanos, which is why I believe his actions put Wanda through her secondary mutation with put her more in tune with her chaos magic--notice the difference in mastery of her skills from Infinity War and Endgame, big difference. Chaos magic in the comics has been tied to dark origins, so it wouldn't be a stretch to believe that that's how Mephisto came to find her. The ruler of the underworld would surely feel a power akin to his own, wouldn't you say? Wanda's grief likely called out to him and he responded telepathically as dwells in a different realm. Wanda may not have known who she was talking to or what she was doing--for all she knew should was talking to her inner voice--but when presented the chance at a fresh start and a new life presented itself, she took it! Mephisto doesn't do things for free, there's always a catch. Wanda, likely showed him a world he knew nothing of, a world full of souls right for the taking. All he needed was the means to get there, and that's likely what was bargained. Mephisto likely promised Wanda a fresh start, a chance to live a life she never got to live, free of grief and suffering. In exchange, she'd have to give him a vessel, the means to crossover. As Wanda doesn't know how she and Vision entered Westview, she may have no memory of the deal she made. Her memories have been suppressed, but outside forces have been making them resurface little by little. Will Wanda remember the deal she made? Will it matter? Wanda had a duality to her at times, times when she seemed to confuse even herself--we she ejected Geraldine, she questions herself, you can see this clearly with the subtitles on. She takes on a darker persona. I think Mephisto has charmed Wanda, put a little of him in her. Why do that, well, I think he's doing what Ego did in GotG, his DNA needs to be a part of his vessel. Wanda's seeming immaculate conception was possible because Mephisto is the father of Billy and Tommy, not Vision. Vision's fathering them, but Mephisto is their biological father.
I think we're seeing time jumps because this grand illusion can't be kept up forever. Mephisto is incredibly powerful, but his powers are limited outside his realm, and I think that's why we've been seeing more and more glitches as time passes by. Mephisto is speeding things along so that he can claim what is his unripe vessels. In the end, I don't think we'll see that day come, as I think this world and is going to collapse with his involvement revealed before that happens. But I don't think that's going to matter much, as I think this is where the story will sort of follow the comics, but instead of absorbing Billy and Tommy into himself as he did in the comics. I think the three of them will merge into the form he takes when he appears on WandaVision.
The realization of what happened and the role Wanda had to play in all this, will likely throw her into depression, the fourth stage of grief and kicking off the events that take us into Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. At least that's how I see things playing out.
Oh, regarding Even Peters, don't get your hopes up. Go back and watch the exchange between Director Hayward and Agent Woo. While Hayward tried to get Woo to agree that some sinister name was given to her, her mutant name, Woo assures people that that wasn't the case. I think that was done to remind the audience that in the MCU that Wanda and Pietro were never given referred to by their mutant names. Even Peters, however, was almost always called Quicksilver in Fox's X-Men movie. While the fandom sees no difference here, I think we should all notice that the MCU made it a point to point this out to us all. Darcy even says that Wanda recast Pietro, not Quicksilver. I think we're going to learn in a few days that Even Peters is a resident of Westview playing a part like everyone else there. He's not from the multiverse like many are hoping. It's going to be interesting to see what happens when its revealed that he has no powers, thought it might not matter as Wanda already gave Pietro's powers to Vision. Pietro is playing an Uncle Jesse-type character and I think that's where he'll stay.
I think this cameo is going to end with a little disappointment for some in the fandom, as I don't think it's going to play out as they're hoping. I guess we'll see in a few days.
Remember the Lagos commercial, the liquid could be a call to the ether. Also guys OT, remember Monica was still glowing when she pushed her out, so... powers?
Wanda is in as much control as Agnes (or Agnes's husband Ralph she keeps mentioning) wants her to be. Agnes is manipulating her to push her powers. Multiple times throughout the episode Agnes tries to get Wanda to do things (reverse time and resurrect the dog). And Wanda was clearly very shocked of Pietro showing up, which means she didn't summon him
I think Wanda is sort of suffering from Stockholm syndrome. The hex is her perfect world so of course she wants to stay there.
My personal theory is that the kids conjured Pietro after she said that him being far away made her sad AND that she can't bring back the dead. So the brought back the living one who was very far away to make her happy.
I think when Norm said it was fake, he was referring to the email as defense against it being real.
I agree that Agness may be involved and helped create this world. I think she's in control of what she interacts with and Agness controls the rest.
As Wanda and Vision's power come ftom the stone and she was able to destroy it, maybe she can rebuild it as her power is its power. As she didn't lose her power with the destruction of the stone maybe it partially lives within her.
Wherever she is in the town is adjusted fir her. The rest should be the town before this happened.
It would be amazing to be on the creative teams for these Marvel shows and movies. They probably have a whole division of true MarvelSuperFans now on payroll called the "WTF Division" and they think up of amazing ways to blow our minds and make us think up crazy predictions, as well as rage demanding answers lol
Actually, Guys, I think Wanda is completely HONEST when she says that doesn't know how this started in the first place. Someone has trapped her there, and she's under the impression that she's in control of things. She's being power-drained, in some way. The fact that the moment Wanda and Vision agree that neither one of them knows what's going on, suddenly a "version" of Pietro appears, to distract her and Vision, screams an outside force, manipulating things. My bet is on, Nightmare being the villain in this story, if it isn't Mephisto. Then again, Grim Reaper could be playing a role in this, as well. I wouldn't be shocked if it ended up being a conglomerate of all 3.
She's not lying. Two lines to remember:
-Agnes: Kids, can't control them. No matter how hard you try.
-Vision: Why are there no other children in town?
I'm thinking Agnes is in charge or serving who is in charge, and has hidden the children of the town some place because they would intefere with the illusion since they can't be controlled. Wanda is being used for access to get cosmic power.
the baby are Tommy aka Wiccan and Billy Speedy from the comics aka also The Young Averages. Also the 80's was Family Ties also Growing Pains also what her the actress who sister was in Full House Mary-Kate and Ashely Olsen
Mephisto, there is no way around it at this point. Agnes is AG-etha Hark-NES-s with a name change to not make it so obvious, but House of M is the template for the series with out a doubt. Also Wanda can't bring back the dead, powering a robot is not bringing back the dead. That is why multi-verse Pietro is being used.
A think wiccan brought him. Wiccan has the same power as wanda. Extremely powerfull She told the kids her brother was far away, not dead. So a think the kid fuked up bringing in who he thought was peitro thinking he was doing his mum a favour not knowing peitro is killed in her reality. Thoughts? This isn't the big reveal. Bettany says its am actor he's always wanted to work with, can't see it being even Peters lmao. Plus the actor is set to have explosive scenes as in fighting him so na more people gonna pop up. Am thinking it's Reed Richards the aerospace engineer monica was texting. Shes bein manipulated by Agatha. Vision is doing what he did to ultron to the people in westview. When he touches there mind remember
Wiccan did something like that for his boyfriend in the comics, Teddy was feeling bad because he missed his mother, so Billy brought a mother from another universe.
I'm sooooo with you on the part when Wanda went to speak with Sword. I'm thinking it's a decoy, and the real villain is behind that decoy. But Idk, we gonna have to see
17:40 i thought i had been the only one that got the jump scare of the glass, after that scene that glass falling almost killed me.
The longer it goes the more her grasp loosens or skips. Agnes doesn’t react to her powers, vision is starting to become autonomous, the email from Darcy breaks through the barrier and it seems like the signal overrides her control/the “actors” like Woo did with the radio.
I think the biggest tell is Vision being able to do things without her knowledge. It may just be that she’s getting comfortable and isn’t as scared as when she first started but i think it’s just starting to get to be too much for her. Or the arrival of the kids is siphoning off some of her control, mutant mom brain.
But, as you can see, I’m just as oblivious as the rest of us theorists lol.
Okay I’m pretty sure it was confirmed that WandaVision will tie into the next Doctor Strange movie. The new Spider-man, based on the cast, is going to be dealing with the spiderverse and all the different spidermen. Kathryn Hahn, who plays Agnes ALSO voiced Doc Ock in Spider-man into the Spiderverse- so what if she is somewhat in control or a plant of some sort in this town. Just a theory 🤷♀️
Im pretty sure what Wanda has done is accidently ripped a hole in the multiverse to get her brother back, by plucking him from the other side the MCU (The X-Men) and bringing him here. Remember that Wanda's powers alter/rewrite reality. So I guess that means she is now merging the X-men universe with this side of the MCU. Because she can't really reverse death, it's the only way for Wanda to get her brother back, but in a way she didn't even intend or know she could do.
Agness=AGatha HarkNESS. If we are pulling stuff out of the comics the kids are Speed (Thomas "Tommy"), and Wiccan (William "Billy"). I think Wiccan is actually doing all the age changing, and such since he has powers similar to his mother. Speed of course has powers similar to his uncle if the name did not give that way.
Agnes bringing quicksilver back: “lemme start fucking with wanda’s emotions hehehe”
She’s not lying. She’s not in full control
Wanda is breaking down the barriers multiverse, They are bringing Evan in so that they can bring X-Men across, hopefully including Fassbender and McAvoy.
This is how I think you're going to do it.
Quicksilver + Magneto in Wandavision
Professor X and a couple more in Dr Strange 2
Storm In Thor 4 if she's not already in from Dr Strange 2.
I don't think she brought him in, I think the puppeteer (Mephisto I assume) did.
I think the aerospace engineer is the scroll she knew as a kid
Don't know why this came to my mind now.... maybe from a theory video I saw a few months or earlier, but I truly believe Dottie is actually working for Dr. Strange and is the character Clea from the comics...Might be that Agnes was trying to control Wanda, but now all hell is breaking loose so she's just playing the part and seeing how things turn out.
Vision isn't dead... Entirely... And the twins are real. They're Wiccan and Speed.
The Shining + The Omen kids....lil bit of Rosemary's Baby thrown in for effect
I first thought they were trying to drown the dog in the sink but got caught so they played it off cuz them kids are creepy
I think its Dee the blonde neighbor is the villain, she mentioned the devil.... Agnes there to protect Wanda. I think Dee or Agnes is the witness protection mission person
I think the writers hinted at this in the birth episode, where she was having labor pains and her coat kept changing, and when it changed into a fur coat, she was shocked at first but then stroked it as if she liked it. She didn't know how this started, but now that it did, she went along with it, and is actively trying to preserve her reality bubble the best she can. The events where it seems that reality is breaking is because she isn't THAT powerful to control everything. My two cents anyway.
PS. Didn't Loki's scepter have the mindstone and it controlled all the Avengers in the first movie, making them fight one another?
Pietro (Peter X-Men) says ...hug sister to death... what if he’s death pretending to be Pietro/Peter? Also, he mentions “who’s the popsicle” so does that mean he sees Vision as a corpse?
Look the way most stories work is when half through the story when it's decided that one character is behind everything, it usually means their not and the there is something else extra going on.
Now maybe Marvel won't do that? But the fact that she hasn't killed anyone to me is leaving room for her to comeback from a Villain path. And also how most of the other main characters are also defending while the clearly shady head of Sword guy is doing whatever he can to kill her. Likely trying to cover up them doing weapon experiments on Vision.
At this point the outside influence is either Agnes/Agatha Harkness (That's a guess, not spoiler.) Or that Dotti character, or something else we haven't seen like Mephisto, Mojo.
Agnes said children can't be controlled and there are no children in the town. There's something to that, and the the statement "For the children." Something is up with the kids, and maybe this was done to obtain Wanda's kids.
Because she could have been pregnant in Infinitiy War and either she or the audience just didn't no. The way Wanda said "I can't do this on my own." I think is a deeper statement.
Also her Hex Magic doesn't work in her kids. So when she tries to use her magic to be like "It's now Monday instead of Saturday." Her kids know it's not Monday but still Saturday.
Also I don't know if your aware that Monica is the little girl from the Captain Marvel movie, and she had a not happy reaction to hearing her name. Probably means she's pissed off at Carol for never coming back and seeing her and her mom, especially because she was sick. But Carol might have came and seen her when Monica was snapped.
When Wanda walked out of the bubble I legitimately got chills. I also love they named her powers Hex. Because that's what it's called in the comics. And seeing the Fox Quicksilver is fucking awesome. Potentially the first ever Mutant in the MCU, or at the very least the first character /actor from the Fox purchase. Also the Aerospace Engineer has to be Reed Richard's.
"Hayward's" coverup is revealed.
I think there's something to that "I'm not the one with the guns" line
I am obsessed with how often you guys say “ew” when you’re uncomfortable 😂
I thought House of M, now i'm thinking Multiverse of Madness. That's crazy... right? I forgot if Sparky died in the comics. Gotta check. I thought building up to Infinity War was an accomplishment; Bringing all of these together re: Fox/Sony is huge. And I know the writers from SHIELD are amazing writers re: picking up clues from S1 and S3, not tying it all together till S6 perfectly. This episode and last looks like their writing... when you're like WTH then at the end you're like Dang, that was genius, they showed us the whole time, etc..
I am glad we finally got a post credits scene.
Agnes = Agatha is the name of the woman who taught her witchcraft
For a moment I was believing in her but not anymore. the whole dog is plotting was an excuse and his power is increasing, it shows when he leaves the dome, he brings a living pietro from another universe to fulfill the role of his pietro.
I believe that someone has created this sandbox and has given Wanda free range to play in it. So while Wanda controls everything inside she didn't make this...but since it's giving her what she wants she isn't angry about it.
Crazy idea... it's TV shows, right? Who has insane amounts of power, using multiple WORLDS as settings, to entertain his people?
MOJO!!! The entire town is in a pocket Mojoverse.
Which is why I'll laugh my ass off if the X-babies show up... or X-Calibur.
‘The Gifted’ ending Where Jinx Recruit the mutant Gotta be connected to MCU Now
The aerospace engineer Monica mentions might be Reed Richards
I believe the series is inspired by Family Ties (the Michael J Fox 80s sitcom)
I don't think it is quicksilver but either nightmare or mephisto pretending to be him as wanda and "quicksilver" get into fight and she blasts him through a wall. Agnes is a witch but not sure of how in control of the world she is since in one of the trailers you see Vision touch her head and she snaps out of a trace like the guy in the office did and asks if she's dead because vision is
ITS THE MULTIVERSE BABY!!!!
Guys react to Game Theory's WandaVision episode. He covers some comic stuff and could answers some questions about what you see.
I would say “first” but that joke’s been beaten to death more than Vision
I'm not sure what line works better here for the drone scene. Homosapians and their guns. Or Tonight was meant to be a display of YOUR power. Instead I give you A GLIMPS of mine.
Minds . . . blown . . . loll.
Omg!
I don’t believe Wanda is behind ALL of this. Notice how Vision started talking sense into her, and then her brother shows up conveniently? (Evan peters version because he was around in the 80s in the alternate universe, but her brother that she knows from age of ultras wasn’t born until later, so Aaron Taylor Johnson as quicksilver doesn’t exist in this time period she’s currently in) sounds like a good way to suck Wanda back into this madness seeing her brother back. But I think someone else sent quicksilver to the house (he probably isn’t real) but we shall see
8:45 Yeah, with who Tommy & Billy are in the comics, that’s not happening.
Nice
Ok look, the clues are right there. Agnes is from WHO'S dimension? You've probably met Emma Frost in episode 2. People in that town who doesn't appear to be under mind control are not from there. They can see Vision's hollowed out head. Notice how Agnes tries NOT to look at him, and her reaction when she does, as do certain other people about town? Hence Quicksilver's line "hey, who's the popsicle?" AKA dead guy. The SWORD director stole Vision's body in order to make weapons out of him, she stole him back, and the only way she can keep him safe is by making this show, but at the same time she needs his help to fight off whoever's from the X-Men's dimension that's causing the interdimensional rift, hence the blending of misinformation regarding her name and what she's done that warrants her being treated with respect. And just think, we're only at the halfway mark, with this series jumping off the "House Of M" storyline for phase 4. Hence the Spiderverse being rumored, Thor being a girl, the Kung Fu movie, Blade, and the topper being the Wanda and Dr Strange team up to close the rift. HA!!! Brilliant.
Me thinks Agnes is in control of the town
I don't understand why they still believe that Wanda did all that, she maneuvered parts of westview but not everything, clearly there are things that escape her, and she says it and they don't believe it. I believe her because if she had the power she would have revived her brother but she did not, in the last scene she was surprised she had no idea who was ringing her doorbell.
MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS
Seeing three men call a woman in distress a "liar"?Nothing at all toxic and problematic about that!(Sarcasm)
@kirl Yes,Wanda`s also engaging in toxic behavior, traumatized people do that sometimes!IRL, traumatized people often get their experiences discredited because they aren`t acting like saints and people fail to take into account that trauma leaves permanent mental scars that make knowing reality from fantasy or memory very difficult!
What if they bring Proffessor Xavier into the bubble to get inside her head?
Agnes killed that poor dog because it was snooping around something it had no business doin
Wanda is not controlling everyone guys
I think she has split personality. Segovian Wanda with accent is cruel and vengeful. Agnes could be witch Agatha Baroness from comics.
People are getting confused with the timeline. Although decades are 10 years apart the episodes are only 1 day apart
Wanda killed the children of the town to make her own.
Y’all didn’t get the Lagos commercial?
They definitely did. Lol
11:12 fantastic 4 mr.fantastic reed richard
There's more to Agnes ...
I think she's a red herring.
@@pigs18 I don't know - she seems to be the only one who keeping to a script and Wanda doesn't seemed bothered by it.
@@judyhuurman1237 That's why I think it's not her. It's just TOO obvious.
Oh her alternative dad maybe coming Magneto 🤔
There wasn’t a dimensional rift or anything
In the X-men Universe he was called Peter not pietro
So I do believe he is mcu pietro but recast even Darcy acknowledges that
Maybe they mixed both pietros into one person
Or Maybe I’m just clueless
Also he talks like he would be mcu pietro because he says long lost brother
I don’t think Wanda had a counterpart in the X-men movies
I saw someone point out that Evan has ATJ pietro’s hair style
And let’s say he is X-men pietro what if someone gave him the memories of mcu pietro. Mixing the two and that’s how he knows who Wanda is and maybe the death and vision memories got wiped
Who's the astrophysicist on the X-Men?
It's also important to note that Norm said "she" or "her" so it might not be Wanda or it could be her but I think the show is just compelling us to believe that it's ALL Wanda. It seems like a huge misdirect. We still have a lot to know, but as far as the show has gone, I think Wanda is telling the truth for the most part, she's just denial about the real world.
Shes not in complete control its Agnes and Mephisto(Ralph) manipulating
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