Neat job , only thing i would pick you up on is fixing into mortar joints , mortar is far weaker than the blockwork plus if its the last horizontal joint possibility it will eventually disturb the block .
@@artisanelectrics The lower fixing throughout in the mortar joint , better to have dropped it down 50 mm , problem is if its the last joint it could crack the mortar joint and everything would be free swinging eventually, we had to fix unistrut on the walls and bracket off because of this issue
Think I would have spanned vertically with strut between the two horizontal perlings at the back so you could have kept the tray running the same way up all the way around plus the strut could have doubled as a fixing point for the socket drops 😉
You could do a video on how to select best option of cable tray or basket or ladder etc etc form the point of view of ease on install and cost etc etc . Just a suggestion..
In America they are called spring strut nuts and cone strut nuts. Cone strut nuts lock to the sides of the strut. These are newer style. T he spring strut nuts have been around for years. I have used a ton of them. Love them.
Nice looking job. Just the way I like it. I have run a lot of cable trey but it was with tape measures and levels. The laser technology makes it so much easier.
Tidy work, however what did you use to secure the tray to the corrugated steel outer shell and has that not 1, left dangerous points on other side, 2. Now punchered what would of been a weatherproof wall? Just interested questions? not trolling!! Before anyone counters my question.
You can get all the offsets,risers, even adjustable bends now for some brands, so much easier now, old days I add to work out the angle,etc for making them. Just look at Swifts cable tray cat, & Premier cable tray even comes pre punched for glands.
Hello,I noticed you used self tappers on the metal wall to fix the boxes and cables.Would not the screws appear on the other side or is the wall double skinned.
My OCD is hoping you've planned out which cables go on the inside/outside of tray for the runs that are the shortest/longest, or vice versa. Nice to see some commercial install content on here.
Classed as exposed conductive part. On your certificate you have tick box for water, gas, structural steel. Keeps everything at the same potential. So it fails under bonding. Its a simple fix. It's not a bath tub if that's what your mixing it up with, part of your electrical system.
How many 3 phase sockets are on 1 circuit 🤔 isolating will mean taking out several sockets doubt that board has enough capacity for all those 3 phase sockets to be separate circuits
Artisan Electrics I get that but it could easily have been kept horizontal on all 4 sides. Then you wouldn’t see cables jumping on and off trays et every bend. You could have made unistrut framework on the front and rear walls hung off the existing framework and then used cantilever arms on there as well. Flat 90 bends and jobs a good en.
Very nice job Jordan well done I do think you really could do with an apprentice. Just sort through and get the best. I really think you have a lot to offer the younger generation and you might be pleased how quickly they can be competent taking a lot of stress from you to grow the business while still managing to keep the quality. Nick’s Adam and Toms Nom Nom really good apprentices so there is quality out there. Even Mr Savary takes the odd apprentice out now and then.
Artisan Electrics you know better than me but Jordan your the nicest guy out there I really pray for your success. If you don’t chase the pound but quality is your motto the pounds will come your way. Your channel really helps to show your quality people in Cambridge and surrounding areas know what they are in for when they hire you.
bond the tray together with earth braids/fly leads. Can’t remember the last time I’ve used spring zebs, always have normal or pull the springs off. zebs I’ve always called them! Nice job though so far!
Why bond the tray with fly leads? Cable tray is not in itself an exposed.c.part, so if not used as a cpc, needs no earthing, and if it is not an extraneous.c.part, it requires no bonding connection - see section 10.11 of guidance note 8 for details. The tray in the video was neither an exp. or extr. c.part, so fly leads would serve no purpose at all.
Honestly don't get why you mounted that cable tray flat along those walls the like you did?? I would have mounted it the other way and incorporated cable tray drops down to each socket outlet. More than one way to skin a cat I suppose 😻.
There was a vertical beam in the way so the brackets are 450 mm. He would have had to set around it. Would have taken longer. That's what it looked like to me. But it was a nice job.
@@carlmarquardt994 There wasn't any major obstacles along both maisonary walls that 40mm uni strut or an off set or two would have solved to my eye, both legs could have tied into the other run on the other wall with drops down to the sockets where needed. I'm not knocking the man's work like I said there is more than one way to skin a cat.
@@artisanelectrics after a bit of experience with tray you learn that 1.2M brackets will line up with the holes 😂 1st video I've seen of yours n I'll be checking more out
I have sat here for 30 minutes trying not to comment. Firstly I was amazed how many people said what a great job you had done. You have some of the strongest brackets that money can buy and fix them with plastic screws and mickey mouse screws and penny washers. God help the poor painter next time round that puts his weight on that tray. Looping 3 phase sockets OMG..... Fixing sockets to the cladding on the end walls ( not strong enough ). Oh by the way you should not fix brackets into joints on the wall as was said by another commenter. You have a lovely laser level which you struggled to see, close the roller door a little and you might see better, you should have used a stud/metal detector or magnet and found proper fixings on slab wall and fix the tray face on and crinkle the tray at the corners or use manufactured bends and use bonding straps. Metal filings everywhere you drilled holes............ even into the sockets....... Please please please dont do anything until you fix this simple little job first and then proceed with cable instillation. I hope that you will use earth rings for the glands in the plastic boxes. The only reason I am commenting is, you seem a great young man that will do well in this hard trade and I wish you well in the future.
@@artisanelectrics I would love if you done a video of you with a secured harness walking from one end of the tray to the other end, oh no, maybe that would not end well . If that was my job I would at least go back and fit one 10 mm anchor in the solid block of each bracket. I would love if you could ask Thomas Nagy's opinion on this. I love your videos and your work is very neat and tidy but just think about this, it might save someone's life down the road. Good luck with your business and work safe 😀😀
The tray looks way oversized to me for the 2 x 4mm 5 core and 1 x 4mm 3 core only three cables there? Prefer expanding bolts to fix cantilever arms, personally would have used trunking & conduit drops. Will there be a part 2 to this?
Yeah I purposely oversized it to allow for future expansion if needed, the labour is the biggest cost when fitting tray so might as well fit bigger and save the client money in the long run.
They are just using some fairly light appliances they sent me a list of all the equipment they will be using with the various KW ratings in advance and I designed it based on that.
Just thinking about that job . It’s very neat by the way If u put 3 x 32amp sockets on a 32amp radial then if a machine was plugged in which draws 30 amp say , then the other 2 sockets would be useless wouldn’t they ? It would trip due to over load ? Also if a machine was plugged in which draws 6amp say then it’s protected by a 32amp mcb ?
Sorry Jordan, you have done a nice job but I think it would have looked much nicer if you mounted the tray vertically the whole way around! The horizontal tray feels like it’s almost in the way and upsets my OCD.
Nice little easy install. I hope you provided earthing links between the trays to link them all together. I would personally have used trunking and conduit. It would have taken a little longer but that is just my preference.
nice work Jordan, lot easier to clip cables with tray mounted that way and for any furture runs that may go in especially if you are working on your own also beats having to move any clutter on the floor to do the job and if data cables or fire alarm are neeeded it makes it much easier to add some fillet in it... just wondering where did you get the extra long screw adapter for drill?
Not bad but putting power arms up with screws and plugs to me is just a big no no to me . Also when u put the jointing plates on the tray and the locating clips I always put a couple of 6mm roofers to secure it in place as in the futrw the clips may become knocked out and then the jointing plate will become lose.
Loved the video. Quality work as always. Quick question though. What's the locking long bit extension you're using? I know it's from Armeg but I can't find it on their website. Thanks!
Thanks for the great content! What advice would you give to someone (me) currently thinking to switch from Mechanical Engineering to Electrical trade? - After 2 years in the office, I am desperate to be back on site! I have some experience as a Carpenter but not qualified. I think Sparks work is more related to my Degree! I am 32 years old! Kind Regards, :)
Why work of stepladders all the time hire or by small scaffold platform with wheels its safer and quicker .Hope you are going to earth bond that cable tray.
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The wholesalers and manufacturers may well call them spring/nuts but Industrial Sparks call them Zeb's. A 4" Grinder will cut your tray excellently.
Thanks!
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Neat job guys 😎👍 I always called them "zebedes" and uni strut. Used to love working with tray and stuff...
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Neat job , only thing i would pick you up on is fixing into mortar joints , mortar is far weaker than the blockwork plus if its the last horizontal joint possibility it will eventually disturb the block .
We didn't use the mortar joints specifically.
#TopTip
@@artisanelectrics The lower fixing throughout in the mortar joint , better to have dropped it down 50 mm , problem is if its the last joint it could crack the mortar joint and everything would be free swinging eventually, we had to fix unistrut on the walls and bracket off because of this issue
Think I would have spanned vertically with strut between the two horizontal perlings at the back so you could have kept the tray running the same way up all the way around plus the strut could have doubled as a fixing point for the socket drops 😉
My thoughts exactly. 👍
Good call!
2nd this can buy Flexi bends but cutting lots is just as quick and easy job done. Still a neat install never the less
GOOD EVENING
Good no waffle video. Thanks a lot
You could do a video on how to select best option of cable tray or basket or ladder etc etc form the point of view of ease on install and cost etc etc . Just a suggestion..
In America they are called spring strut nuts and cone strut nuts. Cone strut nuts lock to the sides of the strut. These are newer style. T he spring strut nuts have been around for years. I have used a ton of them. Love them.
Nice thanks
Nice looking job. Just the way I like it. I have run a lot of cable trey but it was with tape measures and levels. The laser technology makes it so much easier.
Yeah laser really is a game changer
Tidy work, however what did you use to secure the tray to the corrugated steel outer shell and has that not 1, left dangerous points on other side, 2. Now punchered what would of been a weatherproof wall? Just interested questions? not trolling!! Before anyone counters my question.
Would love a video showing how you offsetted the tray, all that stuffs long out of my memory.
You can get all the offsets,risers, even adjustable bends now for some brands, so much easier now, old days I add to work out the angle,etc for making them.
Just look at Swifts cable tray cat, & Premier cable tray even comes pre punched for glands.
nice work, that good the tray is near invisible above the office side from the other side! 😊 looking forward to part 2
Thanks!
An excellent job Jorden. A real example to those in training.
Thanks! 😁👍
What nice job to have won. professional job as always. looking forward to the next part
Thanks! Part 2 just went live!
thanks for your video done by you ,it's perfect and welldone
Zebs! But they are called channel nuts. Nice work👍
Thanks!
12:35 anyone else try blow the metal bits away or am i just stupid
Neat tray install, looking good 👌
Thanks 👍
Great job, nice and neat
Thanks!
Looks like a great job.
Thanks 👍
this system is very use full
So you Think Aliens are green? 😂😂 Nice job Jordan.🇩🇰
Depends which planet they come from! LOL
the brackets on the wall. the actual bit that is sticking out is called uni strut. so i presume the nuts are uni nut
Hello,I noticed you used self tappers on the metal wall to fix the boxes and cables.Would not the screws appear on the other side or is the wall double skinned.
My OCD is hoping you've planned out which cables go on the inside/outside of tray for the runs that are the shortest/longest, or vice versa. Nice to see some commercial install content on here.
Yes I have! Stay tuned for Part 2 where I talk about that! 😁
Did you get a good fixing on that outside wall? That's something I wouldn't do. I would of spanned unistrut between two perlings.
Classed as exposed conductive part. On your certificate you have tick box for water, gas, structural steel. Keeps everything at the same potential. So it fails under bonding. Its a simple fix. It's not a bath tub if that's what your mixing it up with, part of your electrical system.
Quality installation
How many 3 phase sockets are on 1 circuit 🤔 isolating will mean taking out several sockets doubt that board has enough capacity for all those 3 phase sockets to be separate circuits
Yeah exactly we could only work with the few spare ways we had but they won’t be using anything too heavy anyway.
Client should have been told new board
These seems to be General socket outlets in stead of dedicated outlets, he's done well.
tidy job mate get yourself a grinder will make life easier!
I've got one in the van! LOL
Unistrut spring nuts coming in various sizes
Nice thanks
He will be on TV soon with his own show. Its going to be called how to rewire your house in 10 easy lessons !
😂😂😂
Why did you keep changing face with the tray? Just hang it all the same and span with unistrut and window brackets on the front and back walls
I prefer to mount it horizontally where possible its easier to run cable in that way.
Artisan Electrics I get that but it could easily have been kept horizontal on all 4 sides. Then you wouldn’t see cables jumping on and off trays et every bend. You could have made unistrut framework on the front and rear walls hung off the existing framework and then used cantilever arms on there as well. Flat 90 bends and jobs a good en.
That would have been quite difficult there was a lot of stuff in the way.
Tbh i thought the same always keep tray flat in warehouses and jumping on and off tray is a bit ruff
Lovely tidy job 👌🏼
Thanks!
1200mm between brackets , not a metre , saves drilling
Thanks!
The correct term is channel nuts.
Spring channel nuts, if you ordered channel nuts you would get springless. Also you need to order long, medium or short
Very nice job Jordan well done I do think you really could do with an apprentice. Just sort through and get the best. I really think you have a lot to offer the younger generation and you might be pleased how quickly they can be competent taking a lot of stress from you to grow the business while still managing to keep the quality. Nick’s Adam and Toms Nom Nom really good apprentices so there is quality out there. Even Mr Savary takes the odd apprentice out now and then.
Thanks for the tips!
Artisan Electrics you know better than me but Jordan your the nicest guy out there I really pray for your success. If you don’t chase the pound but quality is your motto the pounds will come your way. Your channel really helps to show your quality people in Cambridge and surrounding areas know what they are in for when they hire you.
Fine
Tell u what mate u bang some work out👍👍
HAHA thanks!
well done
Lovely install
Thanks a lot!
What did you use to attach the tray (when it goes flat) to the metal structure of the building..?
I hope it wasn't single skinned...?
How did you fix the tray to the back wall self tappers ?
Probably tek screws
Yes self tappers
Nice
bond the tray together with earth braids/fly leads.
Can’t remember the last time I’ve used spring zebs, always have normal or pull the springs off. zebs I’ve always called them!
Nice job though so far!
Thanks!
Why bond the tray with fly leads? Cable tray is not in itself an exposed.c.part, so if not used as a cpc, needs no earthing, and if it is not an extraneous.c.part, it requires no bonding connection - see section 10.11 of guidance note 8 for details. The tray in the video was neither an exp. or extr. c.part, so fly leads would serve no purpose at all.
Nicely done sir.
Thank you kindly
In my country I have only heard "zebb" used for refering to the central male extremity:)
Superb job chap....
Thank you! Cheers!
The CK Armourslice will get a proper workout of this one.
Yeah need to change the blade now, they last pretty well tho.
Zebs always
Yep!
Honestly don't get why you mounted that cable tray flat along those walls the like you did?? I would have mounted it the other way and incorporated cable tray drops down to each socket outlet. More than one way to skin a cat I suppose 😻.
There was a vertical beam in the way so the brackets are 450 mm. He would have had to set around it. Would have taken longer. That's what it looked like to me. But it was a nice job.
@@carlmarquardt994 There wasn't any major obstacles along both maisonary walls that 40mm uni strut or an off set or two would have solved to my eye, both legs could have tied into the other run on the other wall with drops down to the sockets where needed. I'm not knocking the man's work like I said there is more than one way to skin a cat.
Thanks for the video. Is metal trunking necessary when installing new warehouse lighting? Can the cable be just clipped to the RSJ or purling?
Very clean and nice work 👌.
What is the standard distance between two breaking
And
Standard heights for 3 phase outlets???
Nice job. So annoying when you’ve got all those holes and you still manage to miss every single one. Thanks for sharing. 🐵
Haha yeah thanks
@@artisanelectrics after a bit of experience with tray you learn that 1.2M brackets will line up with the holes 😂
1st video I've seen of yours n I'll be checking more out
nice job, nice little unit 👍
Thanks!
I have sat here for 30 minutes trying not to comment. Firstly I was amazed how many people said what a great job you had done.
You have some of the strongest brackets that money can buy and fix them with plastic screws and mickey mouse screws and penny washers.
God help the poor painter next time round that puts his weight on that tray. Looping 3 phase sockets OMG.....
Fixing sockets to the cladding on the end walls ( not strong enough ).
Oh by the way you should not fix brackets into joints on the wall as was said by another commenter.
You have a lovely laser level which you struggled to see, close the roller door a little and you might see better,
you should have used a stud/metal detector or magnet and found proper fixings on slab wall and fix the tray face on and crinkle the
tray at the corners or use manufactured bends and use bonding straps. Metal filings everywhere you drilled holes............ even into the sockets.......
Please please please dont do anything until you fix this simple little job first and then proceed with cable instillation.
I hope that you will use earth rings for the glands in the plastic boxes. The only reason I am commenting is, you seem a great young man that will do well
in this hard trade and I wish you well in the future.
Trust me those fixings are solid I tested them myself by hanging off them to make sure!
@@artisanelectrics I would love if you done a video of you with a secured harness walking from one end of the tray to the other end, oh no, maybe that would not end well . If that was my job I would at least go back and fit one 10 mm anchor in the solid block of each bracket. I would love if you could ask Thomas Nagy's opinion on this. I love your videos and your work is very neat and tidy but just think about this, it might save someone's life down the road. Good luck with your business and work safe 😀😀
They are called channel nuts.
Zebs is what I've always known them as.
Me too!
What are all those three phase sockets for. I'm guessing only 1 will be used at once. Other wise you should of wired them on there own circuit.
They are only gonna be used for fairly light equipment so they won’t be fully loaded
The tray looks way oversized to me for the 2 x 4mm 5 core and 1 x 4mm 3 core only three cables there?
Prefer expanding bolts to fix cantilever arms, personally would have used trunking & conduit drops.
Will there be a part 2 to this?
Yeah I purposely oversized it to allow for future expansion if needed, the labour is the biggest cost when fitting tray so might as well fit bigger and save the client money in the long run.
The zebs are official called channel nuts
What is the unit going to be used for? What are the sockets going to be used to power? Three 4mm radials doesnt seem much for all those sockets.
They are just using some fairly light appliances they sent me a list of all the equipment they will be using with the various KW ratings in advance and I designed it based on that.
@@artisanelectrics sounds good, not a room full of arc welders then 👍🏼
Nope! 😂
Could you show what fixings you used to fix the cable tray onto the wall
Just normal raw plugs and 2 inch screws with penny washers, they gave a very solid fixing.
Zebs or ba##ard when they fly off whilst balancing an enclosure trying to secure it to strut.
Just thinking about that job . It’s very neat by the way
If u put 3 x 32amp sockets on a 32amp radial then if a machine was plugged in which draws 30 amp say , then the other 2 sockets would be useless wouldn’t they ? It would trip due to over load ?
Also if a machine was plugged in which draws 6amp say then it’s protected by a 32amp mcb ?
Either plain or sprung channel nuts (zebs ) a lot of sites not allowed to work off steps ,always imo if you feel safe working off steps do so .
You should set the trays onto the tray on its side
I prefer it like this its easier to run the cables in.
@@artisanelectrics it makes no difference with the cable pull
Down here in Tx them there are called springy nutties
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Great video jordan 👍have you tried dewalt wall dogs fixing instead of plastic plugs.
Yes I have, don't like them, they dont hold well at all.
Shut the big door and you would see your laser better 😄
There were sky lights so it didn’t make that much difference
Wheres the grinder at Jordan ?!
Sorry Jordan, you have done a nice job but I think it would have looked much nicer if you mounted the tray vertically the whole way around!
The horizontal tray feels like it’s almost in the way and upsets my OCD.
Another one who would vertically mount all cable trays,much easier & neater,can mount them on stand off's if required
I don’t like mounting it that way as it’s much harder to install the cables on it like that.
Artisan Electrics come on Jordan, at £150.00 an hour you should have to struggle a little bit 😉
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Nice work 👍 I interested work with you
We are a professional manufacturer of cable tray, wire mesh cable tray, cable ladder，strut channel with more than 10 years experience
Nice little easy install. I hope you provided earthing links between the trays to link them all together. I would personally have used trunking and conduit. It would have taken a little longer but that is just my preference.
Yeah, trunking and singles is nice. Easier to add to later also
Same here terminating SWA plus the cost. Run singles in trunking.
@@SME_Ste Yes I would agree with that too.
Why would you earth the tray???
I think the tray looks great and is really easy to add/adapt
nice work Jordan, lot easier to clip cables with tray mounted that way and for any furture runs that may go in especially if you are working on your own also beats having to move any clutter on the floor to do the job and if data cables or fire alarm are neeeded it makes it much easier to add some fillet in it... just wondering where did you get the extra long screw adapter for drill?
Thanks yeah that was exactly my thoughts! Armeg extension bit you can get it here: amzn.to/30B4QtX
Also what type were they you didn't say
What's the mounting height of the socket ?
Not bad but putting power arms up with screws and plugs to me is just a big no no to me . Also when u put the jointing plates on the tray and the locating clips I always put a couple of 6mm roofers to secure it in place as in the futrw the clips may become knocked out and then the jointing plate will become lose.
Thanks for the top tips!
I've always known them as channel nuts.
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Just wondering why do you use a combi instead of an impact driver for screwing the back boxes onto the wall?
Just prefer the action of a combi, the hammering of an impact driver is a bit annoying.
Looking good 👍 If you can say what is the building going to be used for?
A research lab for electric powered boats
Nice! 👍
What size breaker did you use for each set of three 3phase commandos?
You can see in part 2
Surely has to be a 32amp mcb ?
Loved the video. Quality work as always. Quick question though. What's the locking long bit extension you're using? I know it's from Armeg but I can't find it on their website. Thanks!
amzn.to/30B4QtX
Per hour rate ..?.sir
sorry, ive been finding your vids to be too quiet lately. Had to turn my volume up quite a bit.
Thanks I will check whats happening
I have been too. Had to have it on max but still very quiet
I haven’t
Thanks for the great content! What advice would you give to someone (me) currently thinking to switch from Mechanical Engineering to Electrical trade? - After 2 years in the office, I am desperate to be back on site! I have some experience as a Carpenter but not qualified. I think Sparks work is more related to my Degree! I am 32 years old! Kind Regards, :)
Just try and get out there and get some experience on site and book a course for the theory side of things! Hope it goes well!
Did u use self tapers to drill into the metal wall of the garage
Yes
Is it double skinned then otherwise could leak ?
Yes it is
Is the 4mm overkill for the single phase sockets? 2.5mm PVC SWA has a CCC of 39A on tray doesn't it?
Yeah but I always like to over engineer a bit.
M6 springback nuts
Thanks!
@ 8:30... Those are Spring nuts.
Forgot to add that the cable tray run looks good.
Thanks!
its just crying out for 100x100 trunking and conduit drops
You should have used steel trunking and conduit......it would have looked much more professional.
Why work of stepladders all the time hire or by small scaffold platform with wheels its safer and quicker .Hope you are going to earth bond that cable tray.
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Cutter bolts zebs simple
واو اعمل في كهرباء قوا
Definatly zebs 😂
We call them “Zebs”
Thanks
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