F-18 dangerously Low on Fuel in bad Weather: Smart ATC Guides Safe Landing

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  • Опубліковано 24 гру 2024

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  • @GuyFromSC
    @GuyFromSC 3 місяці тому +456

    What a stud of an ATC. Knowledgeable, professional, understanding, and working with the pilot. I love this stuff. 🙏🏼

    • @JesterBandito
      @JesterBandito 3 місяці тому +5

      Welcome to St. Louis

    • @auliktechnologies9051
      @auliktechnologies9051 Місяць тому +2

      Thank you for flying Bad Ass Air

    • @phrozen755
      @phrozen755 Місяць тому +5

      EWR needs controllers like this, hoooooooly moley this guy did a STELLAR job!

    • @MUFCSINCE90
      @MUFCSINCE90 Місяць тому +1

      A stud 😂😂😂❤

  • @wturn5354
    @wturn5354 2 місяці тому +215

    Controller was flawless with his job! No excess transmissions, gave the pilot exactly what he needed and was very clear. I have been involved in many emergencies in 30+ years ATC-retired.

    • @Dr.Ian-Plect
      @Dr.Ian-Plect Місяць тому +4

      Not quite flawless, there was religious nonsense at the end.

    • @chukulan
      @chukulan Місяць тому +2

      @@Dr.Ian-Plect What nonsense? "Thank the good Lord?" All praise to Jesus. Always.

    • @Dr.Ian-Plect
      @Dr.Ian-Plect Місяць тому +3

      @@chukulan Yes, that's the mythological tripe I was referring to. All praise to rationality and evidence-based thinking. _Always_
      Muted.

    • @chukulan
      @chukulan Місяць тому +1

      @@Dr.Ian-Plect Aww, running from truth? Rationally, you explain how something arises from NOTHING. You explain away the information theory for me.

    • @MikeAltogether
      @MikeAltogether Місяць тому

      Well it sounds like he messed up the Lat/Long, but I guess the pilot figured it out.

  • @infantryshooter
    @infantryshooter 3 місяці тому +215

    The professionalism from both pilot and ATC was most impressive!

    • @D.E._Sarcarean
      @D.E._Sarcarean 2 місяці тому +1

      The audio is faked.

    • @dickfitswell3437
      @dickfitswell3437 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@D.E._SarcareanNo it's not. I know the pilot and that is his voice. I don't know the ATC so his could be fake but I doubt it. You are fake

    • @mikeanonymous669
      @mikeanonymous669 22 дні тому +3

      @@D.E._Sarcarean WTH are you yapping about? You didnt know that all air traffic audio is recorded by the FAA? Its recorded by a DALR or NVR system. Wondering how I know....because I maintain the systems. ;)

  • @greybirdo
    @greybirdo 2 місяці тому +124

    You can hear the laser focus of that controller in his voice. His annunciation was perfect, and he clearly had his entire being focussed on bringing the jet in. You’ve got to wonder whether he had PIC time himself. Superb.

    • @jeremygalloway1348
      @jeremygalloway1348 22 дні тому +1

      Agree 100%. But enunciation not annunciation(announcing something)

  • @jimfeeney6748
    @jimfeeney6748 Місяць тому +34

    Former pilot and FAA controller here. Much admiration for this controller.

  • @SomeLuckyDevil
    @SomeLuckyDevil 3 місяці тому +179

    Has anyone seen an actual debrief of this event? Would love to check that out. Sounded like the pilot was asking for the GPS coordinates so he could create a waypoint for the field that would at least give him some situational awareness and a rough course line to follow toward the landing end of the runway. So he’s crunching numbers into his up front controller, spinning his course needle, while monitoring his FPAS (flight performance advisory system) for his time remaining fuel, all while doing his best to stay cucumber calm, hoping to see the runway ahead. Gear down, flaps full, and he nailed it! What a stud! Kudos to that controller too. Outstanding performance and professionalism! 🤙🏼

    • @MrMcbear
      @MrMcbear 2 місяці тому +19

      Without ILS yeah he would be setting a waypoint as his marker. Pilot is a master with his F18

    • @ButmunkieOG
      @ButmunkieOG 29 днів тому +2

      They all get a bad rep as cocky sons of bitches... But you do kinda have to give it to them lol.

    • @tooitchy
      @tooitchy 26 днів тому +1

      @@ButmunkieOG If they get a bad rep, it's from people who don't know anything about the pilots themselves. They're all incredibly humble, and calm, they fly the way they do, because their jets can do it, and htey're trained for it, lol. But they don't let no hot shots become fighter pilots, they'll get themselves killed. It requires a very high level of respect for the aircraft, and knowledge of their limitations. GLOC is no joke.

  • @swiley4045
    @swiley4045 2 місяці тому +68

    That ATC controller was phenomenal, send him to the instructor course, fantastic job.

  • @eamonshields2754
    @eamonshields2754 6 днів тому +1

    Incredible clear communication, well done

  • @bluehornet6752
    @bluehornet6752 3 місяці тому +81

    Beautiful job by everyone there, including the pilot who advised everyone of his status without hesitation.

  • @sheepdog401
    @sheepdog401 2 місяці тому +51

    Civilian pilots take note, when you are low on fuel you declare an emergency ! Too many pilots have died by being scared/reluctant to declare an emergency. This is how a truly professional pilots acts and reacts.

    • @demiurgiac
      @demiurgiac Місяць тому +1

      I remember (a long time ago) the very reluctance you speak of, right after I got my private license. I did all my training at a rural uncontrolled airport and therefore had very minimum radio work. If I had it to do all over again I would have done all my training at a bigger, controlled airport.

    • @BohdanMelnychuk
      @BohdanMelnychuk Місяць тому

      ​@@demiurgiacI think it is important to remember that you can always take additional lessons with an instructor at any point

  • @alrivas1477
    @alrivas1477 2 місяці тому +8

    My god what a Chad ATC controller ! Perfection. The very height of professionalism. A man who knows his business.
    The pilot was great of course but you can tell that controller was bound and determined to safe that pilot. God bless you sir. I'm ever in trouble, you are who I want on the other side of that radio.

  • @PaulBishop-v1o
    @PaulBishop-v1o 3 місяці тому +78

    I actually worked with Brandon Gasser’s wife who is a nurse. A-1 pilot. Excellent job.

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  3 місяці тому +12

      Excellent job indeed.. best regards to the couple!

    • @Digitalgems9000
      @Digitalgems9000 2 місяці тому

      sure you did. i'm also george clooney

    • @dickfitswell3437
      @dickfitswell3437 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Digitalgems9000Brandon's wife is a nurse because my wife works with her

    • @michaelm.1947
      @michaelm.1947 2 місяці тому

      @@Digitalgems9000 Hey, George. Enjoy you in the movies, but stop being a dickhead on the interwebs.

    • @rogerwolstenholme2710
      @rogerwolstenholme2710 Місяць тому

      @@Digitalgems9000 go away numb nuts

  • @ImA1032
    @ImA1032 3 місяці тому +55

    Wowww... goosebumps listening to the last couple minutes of ATC talking to Empire11. You can hear the tension and emotion in his voice. I'm sure hearing that the plane was on the ground was a major adrenaline dump.

    • @TangoDelta8111
      @TangoDelta8111 3 місяці тому +3

      I feel like I had some of those same emotions. Just massive relief when reported on the ground safe.🎉😮

    • @thestruggler3338
      @thestruggler3338 2 місяці тому

      should have no emotion

  • @MrCyp200la
    @MrCyp200la 3 місяці тому +50

    Awesome job by ATC and the F18 pilot.

  • @jbean2449
    @jbean2449 2 місяці тому +6

    Couldn't ask for a better ATC. well done

  • @davidwright1752
    @davidwright1752 Місяць тому +1

    Just a incredible save of aircraft. ATC and Pilot exceptionally skilled. ATC saved the day.

  • @TravelinCatfish
    @TravelinCatfish 2 місяці тому +6

    These two were incredible to listen to.

  • @vipergtsmre
    @vipergtsmre 3 місяці тому +21

    Atc is an impossible job, and this guy was right on. My uncle was atc/AF bird col. And our pilots are some of the best🇺🇸🤛

    • @dickfitswell3437
      @dickfitswell3437 2 місяці тому +1

      Except for the F16 pilot that ran off the runway at OshKosh

  • @johnguppy2120
    @johnguppy2120 28 днів тому +1

    You could hear the pilot calming down as he recognised that the controller had his back. Great work from both.

  • @rvrrunner
    @rvrrunner Місяць тому

    Fantastic Video! I was a controller both in the USAF and FAA and this brought back lots of memories of working emergency aircraft in both the tower and using Ground Control Approach Radar (GCA). This controller did an outstanding job. What most people don't know is anytime a controller goes to a new location he must memorize a massive amount of information about the local area, approaches, airways, airports, etc. You don't have time to look up data when you have only seconds to give information to a desperate pilot.

  • @wmurph3
    @wmurph3 3 місяці тому +22

    Thank you for posting. This was in our local St Louis media for a while but then couldn’t find it the last few years. Thank you again!

  • @aga080
    @aga080 Місяць тому +1

    dude that was AWESOME. ATC has nerves of steel. what a guy.

  • @tedstryker73
    @tedstryker73 Місяць тому +1

    Incredible performance by the controller and pilot. Excellent communication. This is how it’s done

  • @DblOSmith
    @DblOSmith 3 місяці тому +47

    Cool and calm on both ends. Great video.

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  3 місяці тому +2

      Thanks! I hope you enjoyed the content as much as we enjoyed creating it

    • @D.E._Sarcarean
      @D.E._Sarcarean 2 місяці тому

      The audio is faked.

  • @privatepilot4064
    @privatepilot4064 2 місяці тому +3

    Gotta love NavalAir! Calm, cool collected pilot and controller. That’s how it works! Great job!

  • @DrewBlanton1959
    @DrewBlanton1959 3 місяці тому +11

    What a great job this controller did.

  • @adamdejesus4017
    @adamdejesus4017 3 місяці тому +19

    Perfect surveillance approach provided to Empire11, all correct information though the military uses more standardized comms. I can't speak for USAF but USN practices ASR (surveillance, non-precision) and PAR (surveillance precision approach, includes glide path) regularly both at the ship and at the field. At the field it is usually for air traffic controller training, highly valuable for both controllers and pilots. Maybe things have changed since but we were still doing them in 2011. FLY NAVY!

    • @ImpendingJoker
      @ImpendingJoker 3 місяці тому +3

      We did the same in the Army for our helicopters, usually as you say for controller training. We did circuits at Hunter Army Airfield for about an hour in a 58C just being talked onto the approach by the controllers as though we had a malfunctioning gyro compass, and they would just start issuing commands of "come right, come right, come right, hold course, come left" until we'd get to DH and go around. Boring as hell but, hey, flying is flying.

    • @adamdejesus4017
      @adamdejesus4017 3 місяці тому +1

      @@ImpendingJoker heck yeah the no-gyro was a thing. If the weather was good we would actually pull the circuit breakers for the gyros so the pilot would have no choice but to obey ATC: "turn left" "stop turn" "turn right" "stop turn". We knew they could get us runway-in-sight at DH even if none of our onboard instruments worked.

    • @av8rgrip
      @av8rgrip 3 місяці тому

      Hard to find surveillance approaches anymore.

  • @djsmith2871
    @djsmith2871 3 місяці тому +10

    "You know what? Let me get this Empire 11. This has been a debacle."
    😂 I can only imagine what preceded this.

  • @navajojohn9448
    @navajojohn9448 3 місяці тому +5

    Forty years ago I had an air force base close by and used to train doing PAR precision approaches where controller gives heading and altitude instructions down to the runway.

  • @craigbmm4675
    @craigbmm4675 3 місяці тому +20

    wow .. exceptional atc and pilot .. keeping cool ,, good outcome

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  3 місяці тому +1

      I hope you enjoyed the content as much as we enjoyed creating it

  • @RunawayStabiliser
    @RunawayStabiliser Місяць тому

    absolutely clutch performance from the controller

  • @lawless201
    @lawless201 3 місяці тому +7

    For the Archie League Medal of Safety Awards, any chance the pilot is presented with a fresh set of drawers or maybe a repair kit for the bite marks left on the pilots seat? I bet there are some amazing stories told at the ceremony, put them all in a book and I'd buy one. I've really been enjoying your videos, such a treat and privilege to hear not how important of a job an Aircraft Controller's job is, that goes without saying, but being able to listen to the experience of what an Aircraft Controller has, the exchange between the pilot and the Controller, and the relief of those two individuals of a successful landing is what makes your videos so unique and appreciated. I'll leave the unsuccessful ones alone. Thank-you for the time and editing you put into these videos.
    I will add that The best eavesdrop (as it were ) I've had the opportunity to enjoy was the full length audio of the communications of a B-52 strike on Hanoi during Linebacker II I think it was. If you have any of something along that line, I doubt anyone would complain about not being recent. Again, thanx for the privilege to listen.

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  3 місяці тому +1

      Thank you so much for your kind words and support! I'm glad you enjoy the videos and find value in the unique perspective they provide on the critical and often intense interactions between pilots and air traffic controllers. It’s true that behind each successful landing are stories of skill, quick thinking, and teamwork that deserve recognition.
      Thank you again for watching and for taking the time to share your thoughts. Your feedback means a lot and motivates us to continue bringing these stories to life. Stay tuned, and I hope to keep bringing you more of the content you enjoy!
      I will surely do some research on the B-52 strike on Hanoi.. we did work on some WW2 bomber audios before and we have plans to work on WW2 audios in future as well. Lets see

    • @TangoDelta8111
      @TangoDelta8111 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Flight_Followeryeah, that sounds fascinating. I’d watch that

  • @darkknightcars7951
    @darkknightcars7951 Місяць тому

    STL ATC is awesome best ATC i’ve encountered so far

  • @DavidLightman
    @DavidLightman 2 місяці тому +4

    amazing the ATC guy, WOW, i have no words.

  • @alan_davis
    @alan_davis 2 місяці тому +3

    ATC read out decimal minutes as seconds, but apart from that, he was awesome.

  • @johnsells6023
    @johnsells6023 3 місяці тому +3

    Great ATC thank you gents.
    John B747,757,767,777 etc etc

  • @danielsmith8773
    @danielsmith8773 3 місяці тому +5

    Outstanding always keep calm and a clear head.🇺🇸

  • @justingaskins3440
    @justingaskins3440 3 місяці тому +4

    Flying is dope. Flying a fighter jet i envy. BEING A ATC makes all that possible ❤❤❤❤

  • @roberthollander4522
    @roberthollander4522 Місяць тому

    THIS is how it's done. Well done.

  • @DrewBlanton1959
    @DrewBlanton1959 3 місяці тому +3

    I was an ATC at Scott from 1984 to 1988.... good times

  • @navajojohn9448
    @navajojohn9448 3 місяці тому +63

    High tech F18, fast, deadly, expensive, rugged, but no ILS onboard so it can't land in bad weather like even a Cessna 172 trainer can do.

    • @roymarshall_
      @roymarshall_ 2 місяці тому +6

      Which I don't understand. I'm not very knowledgeable on these things but I thought that F18s used ILS to help guide them in to carriers.
      EDIT: Ah ok ACLS is its own separate thing

    • @philippewits5203
      @philippewits5203 2 місяці тому

      Not all airports have ILS capabilities. The plane sure has it

    • @qwerty112311
      @qwerty112311 2 місяці тому

      @@philippewits5203STL sure as ballsack has ILS

    • @TeeDee87
      @TeeDee87 2 місяці тому +3

      @@philippewits5203 International airport in St. Louis doesn't have ils.... I don't buy that.

    • @philippewits5203
      @philippewits5203 2 місяці тому

      @@TeeDee87 yes you are right, didn't; look at the airport but that airport has ILS on all runways also the 30L I believed he landed on. So did the Spirit of St Louis airport according to Foreflight.
      The controller offered the Vortec or TACAN (this is military) which is a "simple" instrument (like a VOR or DME) to get a bearing to the airport. All airplanes, even Cessna's have these on board and work on VHF. Apparently either due to high workload or malfunctioning equipment, the plane was not able to operate it. And ILS is also nothing more then a guiding instrument in its simplest form.

  • @gosmo4504
    @gosmo4504 3 місяці тому +4

    That was damn smooth

  • @geksogen123
    @geksogen123 3 місяці тому +12

    Great ATC 👏🏼

  • @spelunkerd
    @spelunkerd 2 місяці тому +1

    The written GPS coordinates at 3:51 of the video shows min and seconds, but the audio description is using a decimal, which are not minutes at all. Those are two different locations! The audio is describing the remaining partial minute in decimal form, but then the audio confuses the discussion by calling them seconds. The units are not seconds at all, they are minutes in decimal form. I wish they wouldn't mix up units like that, it could cost a life one day.

    • @statonb
      @statonb 15 годин тому

      I immediately thought the same thing. When he reads off "nine zero seconds" and "eight six seconds" I'm thinking those aren't seconds, they're fractional minutes! In this case it's obvious they're not seconds because you can't have more than 59 seconds, but it would really be confusing if the factional portion of the coordinate was less than 60 because it can be completely ambiguous as to whether you're talking about seconds or fractional minutes.

  • @FDJT-sj7id
    @FDJT-sj7id Місяць тому

    Great job, controller.
    But that airplane should have been able to find its own way to land at Lambert (KSTL).
    That’s where every F/A-18 ever made took its first flight. McDonnell Douglas/Boeing built every one.
    I used to watch them out of my office window that overlooked the flight ramp.
    Prior to about 2005 or so, the MO ANG flew their F-15s (also built at Boeing in St. Louis) from Lambert. Frequently, the ANG would take off in a 2x2 four ship sortie. They’d climb immediately to get out of the airport traffic pattern and their noise would set off the car alarms in the Building 1 parking lot.
    Good memories.
    So glad to see my Hornet make it back to fight another day.

  • @stevegould1730
    @stevegould1730 2 місяці тому +1

    Glad to hear all went well. But the irony of the last name Gasser😂.

  • @jackmidd123
    @jackmidd123 2 місяці тому +1

    Imagine this at Kennedy. “Yeh buddy you got yourself into this mess”

  • @navajojohn9448
    @navajojohn9448 3 місяці тому +73

    Imagine losing a $50 million dollar airplane and maybe a pilot because it didn't have a few thousand dollars worth of avionics installed to land in bad weather at civilian airports.

    • @matthewo3977
      @matthewo3977 3 місяці тому +13

      No ILS in a hornet bc we have ACLS for the boat. Now we have RNAV which is a big improvement.

    • @Joe-bm4wx
      @Joe-bm4wx 2 місяці тому +19

      It’s incredibly frustrating how little certified FAA avionics military aircraft have. Being restricted to tacans and UHF frequencies hamstrings us a lot.

    • @sqike001ton
      @sqike001ton 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@@Joe-bm4wxI think a lot of it has to do with you would have to be able to turn it off and on easily in flight preferably and it has to be removable from the plane if you are a warplane in a war you don't want something that talks back to the ground like ILS (if I am right it's pings both ways)

    • @TheFreeman17
      @TheFreeman17 Місяць тому +4

      ​@@sqike001tonILS is a receive only navaid. The aircraft does not transmit anything to the LOC or GS.

    • @sqike001ton
      @sqike001ton Місяць тому +2

      @@TheFreeman17 I stand corrected

  • @Jimmy_Jones
    @Jimmy_Jones 3 місяці тому +6

    Wonder if he was just plotting in his latitude and longitude into the weapons system as a tracking backup.

    • @willy662
      @willy662 3 місяці тому +10

      That’s exactly what he was doing. With the lat/long the pilot could use his air to ground radar to designate the approach end of the runway and make his own instrument approach. I had to do that one time going into St Louis. Not quite as low on fuel as him though.

  • @fbella69
    @fbella69 2 місяці тому +3

    This controller saved lives that day - that is for sure - not only in the F-16 - but potentially on the ground had he needed to punch out.

    • @BusArch42
      @BusArch42 Місяць тому

      Hornet. Not Air Force. Navy

  • @tomriley5790
    @tomriley5790 2 місяці тому +3

    F/A-18 does not have an ILS system, it has an equivalent system ACLS that's compatible with carriers but it can't use normal ILS systems so precision approach either, always wondered whether it would be that difficult to incorporate a system into the aircraft. Either way great work from the ATC and pilot, under stress keeping it absolutely clear and conscise. Got the job done brilliantly!

  • @jfwfreo
    @jfwfreo 25 днів тому

    It doesn't matter if you are flying a military fighter jet, a giant passenger plane, a single-engine ultralight or any other airplane. If you are in genuine trouble, don't be afraid to ask ATC for help, a big part of their job is to ensure that every plane in the sky gets on the ground safely.

  • @Crash9908
    @Crash9908 3 місяці тому +5

    Controller should have gave him Channel 111 which is the Tacan channel for the VORTAC at Lambert. (Cardinal)

    • @GreatDataVideos
      @GreatDataVideos 3 місяці тому +3

      There is a TACAN 30L approach for STL, but I would guess that the controllers don't handle that much military traffic.

    • @mobius7089
      @mobius7089 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@GreatDataVideosThe thing is, they do... Boeing has a ton of Eagles and Hornets out of STL, but perhaps they aren't used to the Hornets working IFR.

    • @Crash9908
      @Crash9908 3 місяці тому +4

      @@GreatDataVideos Exactly. He is used to giving VHF frequencies. All VORTACs have a TACAN channel also. Classic excitement in an emergency. Pilot says I don’t have VHF.

    • @kevinmadore1794
      @kevinmadore1794 3 місяці тому +2

      I've heard this complaint before. The Navy needs to start putting some capable avionics into their jets. They can't fly an ILS or RNAV approach. That's a problem.

  • @dewayneleek4588
    @dewayneleek4588 3 місяці тому +3

    Great job thats why they make the big bucks

  • @rickyism1576
    @rickyism1576 Місяць тому

    Tower gotta be prior military. Comms were very clean.

  • @ScottBrandt
    @ScottBrandt 3 місяці тому +2

    Someone explain to me the quality of the audio on this channel. The controller is so clear on the first segment. Are these re-enactments or ATC tapes? There’s no way these are air-checks pulled out of the air.

    • @SeligTiles
      @SeligTiles 3 місяці тому +5

      @@ScottBrandt the recordings are sourced from various ground aviation enthusiast receivers.

    • @Joe333Smith
      @Joe333Smith 2 місяці тому

      I heard SDR software radios remove the static, not sure all the details

  • @saker6121
    @saker6121 3 місяці тому +2

    I'm not a pilot or controller but if its a VORTAC its a VOR and TACAN. In this case 121X.

  • @viperdriver82
    @viperdriver82 3 місяці тому +5

    Bravo

  • @MrBNARick
    @MrBNARick Місяць тому

    Props to ATC... scary that this is a USAF FIGHTER pilot.

  • @quickpickle
    @quickpickle Місяць тому

    Now thats how you treat an emergency

  • @MrFerrariF360
    @MrFerrariF360 18 днів тому

    Surveillance approach = Radar assisted.

  • @mhofma12
    @mhofma12 3 місяці тому +1

    Wow nice job

  • @mikeramsey9747
    @mikeramsey9747 3 місяці тому +10

    People have no idea the number of times that air traffic controllers pulled the rabbit out of the hat and provide emergency approach services to military aircraft only to be told by management that it was your job.

    • @genegade
      @genegade 3 місяці тому +4

      It's not?

    • @RyanMoonRocks
      @RyanMoonRocks 2 місяці тому

      @@genegadeyou missed the point.

  • @ytuserx99
    @ytuserx99 17 днів тому

    Maybe a few others caught it, but ATC gave the coordinates of the field incorrectly. Noticed it immediately when I heard "90 seconds" and "86 seconds" - clearly degrees decimal minutes, NOT seconds. ATC did a great job otherwise though!

  • @BerzerkaDurk
    @BerzerkaDurk 2 місяці тому

    We're not gonna talk about the fact that the pilot in the first segment is named GASSER?!?!? hahaha

  • @RoamingAdhocrat
    @RoamingAdhocrat Місяць тому

    I don't understand the coordinates as spoken. Is the controller reading DD°MM'SS" ("seconds") or DD°MM.MM ("point")?

  • @meak13
    @meak13 Місяць тому

    This is the 3rd or 4th incident involving an F-18 bingo fuel situation, in less than a month.

  • @viperdriver82
    @viperdriver82 3 місяці тому +8

    Don’t fly with the call sign “one one”

  • @rober3713
    @rober3713 2 місяці тому

    Waiting for ATC to ask - "How many souls are on board"

  • @AW-yv9sq
    @AW-yv9sq 2 місяці тому

    I think I just held my breath for 8 minutes

  • @kgeor7660
    @kgeor7660 Місяць тому

    Hornet-1 arrival. Use the radar to paint the runway, designate it, then fly a 3 degree approach down to legally 200-1/2; but lower of you got no other choice.

  • @av8rgrip
    @av8rgrip 3 місяці тому +2

    Not sure why he couldn’t shoot the vortex approach. All vortacs are paired with a tacan frequency. All he needed was the tacan frequency and that would have given him both the azmuth and DME to the airport. Give him the final course and step down altitudes and he could have flown it.

    • @tringalij
      @tringalij 3 місяці тому +5

      😂 vortex… the military jets like -18s and -16s don’t have a VOR receiver, just a TACAN and yeah, they’re paired up but a fighter pilot doesn’t have time or space to look up the paired channel. The controller needs to say “TACAN channel 121X”

    • @tringalij
      @tringalij 3 місяці тому

      😂 vortex… the military jets like -18s and -16s don’t have a VOR receiver, just a TACAN and yeah, they’re paired up but a fighter pilot doesn’t have time or space to look up the paired channel. The controller needs to say “TACAN channel 121X”

    • @av8rgrip
      @av8rgrip 3 місяці тому +1

      @@tringalij spellcheck knows better. VORTAC approach should be able to be used with vectors and a TACAN receiver even if a VOR fix is required to be “legal”, but in an emergency where the alternative is giving the jet back to the tax payers, it is worth the risk. Yes, I am familiar with Navy fighters. Some of the A-4s we flew did have a VHF and ILS/VOR receiver. In any case the pilot should have asked for the tacan channel, we didn’t carry a lot of pubs lie tanker guys did. We couldn’t fit all that in the cockpit.

    • @LazyJoe69
      @LazyJoe69 2 місяці тому

      @@tringalijwe actually DO have the time to look that up normally.. in this specific situation, maybe not so much. Sounds like this happened before iPads were introduced, too...

  • @jeremygalloway1348
    @jeremygalloway1348 22 дні тому

    1700lbs of fuel equates to 10 mins run time? Light flying?

  • @RoamingAdhocrat
    @RoamingAdhocrat Місяць тому

    Quietly amused that a pilot named Gasser experienced a fuel emergency

  • @dystopian..
    @dystopian.. 3 місяці тому +1

    I know nothing about this. Why did he keep missing the approach?

    • @erobbin144
      @erobbin144 2 місяці тому

      400ft ceilings are probably below the minimums for that TACAN approach. Most TACANs are like 500-600 IIRC and he didn't have the runway by then.

    • @dystopian..
      @dystopian.. 2 місяці тому

      @@erobbin144 thanks goose 🙄

  • @firedude5135
    @firedude5135 3 місяці тому +5

    Why are all these fighters declaring fuel emergencies? Do the gauges not work?

    • @cruisinguy6024
      @cruisinguy6024 3 місяці тому +1

      It doesn’t happen that often but just like commercial jets occasionally it does happen and it’s almost always due to poor weather conditions as was the case here. Diverting to an alternate, a missed approach, and then another missed approach uses a ton of fuel. Fighters as is have a limited fuel capacity which is why they, essentially, constantly cycle through taking turns on the tanker.
      As if having limited fuel capacity isn’t bad enough the engines suck down the most fuel at low altitudes which is obviously where missed approaches happen. This is why he said he needed to climb to 10,000 - get up in the thinner air and then he can power glide back down.

    • @C420sailor
      @C420sailor 3 місяці тому +1

      Burn rates in a fighter are exceptionally high. At max range, a Hornet is burning 7000+ lbs per hour, with a max internal capacity of 14,400ish.

    • @SodaAnt7
      @SodaAnt7 3 місяці тому

      @@C420sailorPerhaps while flying at max speed or on afterburner, but I can’t imagine the burn rate being that high during lower speeds.

    • @LazyJoe69
      @LazyJoe69 2 місяці тому

      @@SodaAnt7it can easily be twice as high as in 10.000' ... it's not just the engines, it's drag due to the much denser air as well.

  • @thedevilinthecircuit1414
    @thedevilinthecircuit1414 16 днів тому

    @1:56 "Empire 11, *executing* missed approach."

  • @IdahoLife
    @IdahoLife 3 місяці тому

    I'd be interested to learn the navigation capability of an F-18. 400' overcast and 2.5 miles viz is yawn material for the jet I fly...

    • @jakeoht791
      @jakeoht791 2 місяці тому

      The F/A-18 Super Hornets being produced are currently on block 3. Block 3s are quite the jump in technology and their cockpits are very different from block 2 and even more so from the block 1s and baby hornets.
      The older block 2s are being upgraded to block 3-ironically some of which are being done at Lambert. However the time of this incident was before the first block 3 first entered service.

  • @JimNortonsAlcoholism
    @JimNortonsAlcoholism 2 місяці тому +3

    How did he get to such a low fuel situation in the first place?

    • @toddcenter55
      @toddcenter55 Місяць тому +2

      Storm and diversion from his originally scheduled landing site.

  • @Flysh24
    @Flysh24 3 місяці тому +7

    Civilian pilot here - shocked to hear these jets don’t have ILS capability. Can anyone in the know chime in with info?

    • @paulsteinman7250
      @paulsteinman7250 3 місяці тому

      From the FAA website.... For reasons peculiar to military or naval operations (unusual siting conditions, the pitching and rolling of a naval vessel, etc.) the civil VOR/Distance Measuring Equipment (DME) system of air navigation was considered unsuitable for military or naval use. A new navigational system, TACAN, was therefore developed by the military and naval forces to more readily lend itself to military and naval requirements. As a result, the FAA has integrated TACAN facilities with the civil VOR/DME program. Although the theoretical, or technical principles of operation of TACAN equipment are quite different from those of VOR/DME facilities, the end result, as far as the navigating pilot is concerned, is the same. These integrated facilities are called VORTACs.
      TACAN ground equipment consists of either a fixed or mobile transmitting unit. The airborne unit in conjunction with the ground unit reduces the transmitted signal to a visual presentation of both azimuth and distance information. TACAN is a pulse system and operates in the Ultrahigh Frequency (UHF) band of frequencies. Its use requires TACAN airborne equipment and does not operate through conventional VOR equipment.

    • @sluggle7694
      @sluggle7694 3 місяці тому +10

      The F/A-18 is primarily used on aircraft carriers, where landing is often performed using the Carrier Instrument Landing System (CATS) or a combination of visual cues and radar assistance. This system is made for the specific conditions of carrier landings, where space is limited and the environment is dynamic.
      I imagine the military would’ve thought that with this training an, ils would’ve made the aircraft weight more and hindered its weight and or speed.

    • @SeligTiles
      @SeligTiles 3 місяці тому +9

      F-18’s use TACAN, ICLS and ACLS (UHF). It meets their needs for carrier and military airfields. (ICLS and ACLS are used for carrier landings). As they operate on UHF there is no way for the pilot to tune to a VHF frequency which is why the pilot said (unable).
      Keeping in mind this is from 2012.

    • @Flysh24
      @Flysh24 3 місяці тому +2

      @@SeligTiles thanks!

    • @nyandyn
      @nyandyn 3 місяці тому +4

      Many foreign militaries that fly the Hornet have retrofitted civilian VOR and ILS to their planes. It was not specified if this was a legacy model or Rhino, but the avionics are largely the same.
      The pilot could have taken that VORTAC approach, but he needed the DME channel when the controller gave him the VOR frequency. Not sure why he did not ask. There's also VHF ADF onboard but it is a direction finder, not a VOR receiver, and thus it is inherently inaccurate.
      This was in 2013 so I assume the plane was also capable of shooting a so-called Hornet approach which is basically flying off GPS to coordinates onto the threshold.

  • @robertwatson818
    @robertwatson818 3 місяці тому

    What does "cleared for the option" mean??

    • @MikeHalsall
      @MikeHalsall 3 місяці тому

      Touch and go, stop and go, low approach, executing the missed, or full stop.

  • @BruceLeigh-eu3wm
    @BruceLeigh-eu3wm 3 місяці тому

    What was Brandon Gasser's callsign?

  • @telecomex
    @telecomex 3 місяці тому +1

    WOWWWWW!!! I need a drink! Thanks all.

  • @berthagen387
    @berthagen387 17 днів тому

    Even at no fault of his own he's going to have tons of paperwork to do for this incident

  • @6thdayblue59
    @6thdayblue59 Місяць тому

    Is there an app that puts voice as text ?
    This is hilarious
    Are you from Stoke ? Is your name Ralph ? Did you once used to be a tiler ??

    • @6thdayblue59
      @6thdayblue59 Місяць тому

      If it's you Ralph...... You left your balloons mate !!
      They are in the shed

  • @razorseal
    @razorseal 3 місяці тому +1

    That was def a nail biter even though I already knew the outcome was going to be good. phew!

  • @dielotr
    @dielotr 3 місяці тому

    Brandon GASSER. An apt surname

  • @seanseoltoir
    @seanseoltoir Місяць тому

    Damn, that's an expensive air-conditioning malfunction...

  • @fredsalfa
    @fredsalfa 2 місяці тому +1

    Wonder why he missed the first approach?

    • @LazyJoe69
      @LazyJoe69 2 місяці тому +1

      Weather... sounds like it was at or below TACAN minima.

  • @robertbrashear2587
    @robertbrashear2587 19 днів тому

    Only a bad pilot puts himself in this position. Period.

  • @dougaltolan3017
    @dougaltolan3017 3 місяці тому +1

    How bad does the weather have to be to cause an F18 to redirect?

    • @cruisinguy6024
      @cruisinguy6024 3 місяці тому +2

      They still have minimums. For example if their rules state in order to land they need to have a visual of the runway by the time they hit 500’ but the cloud deck is down to 400’ or they can’t see through the fog by the time they hit 500’ that means they have to abort and go around.
      It’s a matter of safety not just for the aircraft but everyone on the ground; it would be catostrophic if he was off runway centerline due to poor visibility and plowed into a passenger jet.

    • @dougaltolan3017
      @dougaltolan3017 3 місяці тому +1

      @@cruisinguy6024 👍 thanks

    • @Bartmanfly
      @Bartmanfly 3 місяці тому

      The F/A 18 didn't have ILS back then. The Navy didn't want to pay or test it

  • @CKennethBauer
    @CKennethBauer Місяць тому

    That pilot is in deep shil after an oversight like that.

  • @larrylewislarry
    @larrylewislarry 3 місяці тому +4

    “Extreme emergency?” The rest of the world says Mayday…

    • @LelleKidd
      @LelleKidd 2 місяці тому

      It wasn't a May Day, it was in April.

  • @shawon_rahaman
    @shawon_rahaman 3 місяці тому +1

    Great video. I will subscribe

  • @larrynoe6162
    @larrynoe6162 25 днів тому

    Our American pilots are bad azz.

  • @uchinanchuu58
    @uchinanchuu58 2 місяці тому

    Your subtitles have a lot of little mistakes in them...

  • @nick_pappagiorgio
    @nick_pappagiorgio 28 днів тому

    This pilot might have some trouble landing on a pitching aircraft carrier deck where the weather will be worse, and there's no opportunity to divert to better weather.

  • @joepiazza3756
    @joepiazza3756 Місяць тому

    You'd think a ton of fuel would not be an emergency.

  • @markeskenazi6245
    @markeskenazi6245 3 місяці тому

    All star controller

  • @believeachieve2847
    @believeachieve2847 2 місяці тому

    1700 lbs fuel, damn, how many gph for a fa18?

    • @NETWizzJbirk
      @NETWizzJbirk 2 місяці тому

      7000 ish gallons per hour. With Afterburner you would double that

    • @strawbertco
      @strawbertco Місяць тому

      he must have misspoke, the f-18's fuel capacity is around 1700 gallons, and if an f-18 had 7000 gallons of fuel in it it would have a like 7000 cubic foot fuel tank