The American Baptist Historical Society in Atlanta has a copy of "Bird's Eye View of the Life of Paul". There are several newspaper articles from the 1890s which suggest that Isaac Earle took these pamphlets on a lecturing tour of the northeast around that time. He may never have actually published the Paul pamphlet but it does seem to exist.
I suspect they are all published, but none or almost none survived to the modern day. I suspect this is due to a combination of low production rate and the target audience not placing any value on retention of these documents and viewing them as read and toss literature, which is common with all pamphlets of this style.
I really appreciate the lengths you go to maintain neutrality/objectivity on biblical subjects. So many presenters will talk about the biblical narrative completely uncritically or dismiss it entirely, you manage to find the sweet spot
As a believer (Christian) myself, I also agree. Far too many of my own have dogmatic views where even other Christian branches that may disagree even to a certain extent, will shun them out. I personally believe the Bible is not meant to be fully understood in one’s own lifetime. Rather it should be read over, meditated on, and ask questions for clarity. In my opinion, the Bible is much more nuanced than many give it credit for.
Hi Matt - Thanks for sharing this wonderful chart with us. I am currently the custodian of a big corner cupboard that has been in the family since it was built for my great-great-great grandmother's wedding by her brothers. It's been all over the US in many different households over the past 160 years and we've documented its history, but I've been wanting to put together some kind of graphic, and this chart is just the example I've been waiting for! Really really really enjoy your work Peace Kenny
It's indeed a really nice map. One detail I noticed that you didn't mention is that the exact position of the point that marks an event within the geographic section also relates to it's geography. For example, events happening in Betharaba are marked near the horizontal line that divides Peraea and Judea because Betharaba is indeed very close to the geographic border between Peraea and Judea. That's some major planning about how to order the horizontal sections and placing the dots!
What I find so interesting is the only gospels that talk about anything from Jesus young life are the ones that had the ability to have Mary and Jesus’s brother as sources . Very cool
This is a great chart and thank you for sharing the map and demonstration. It ironic that you know the details of Jesus' life more than a lot of Christians......and you aren't claiming to be a Christian. I certainly should study more myself! Thank you for this video!
Thank you i really appreciate you just presenting the information. I think everyone knows that you disagree with it being historical but I appreciate you just presenting it so even Christians can enjoy the content.
Back when I was a teenager, I wanted to write a novel that would make Peter the main character and follow him around. But this was before the internet was readily available, so I had to make do with literally just the Bible to make sure I was factually correct. IIRC, I gave up when I couldn't figure out all the disciples' names. Something like this would've been so amazingly helpful.
Thank for this awesome presentation. I love the way the chart is laid out & how you made the information clear and not overwhelming at all. An excellent presentation!
Thank you for this. It's a terrific help. Though I'm not a believer, the impact of the New Testament on world civilization (art, literature, ethics, law, psychology, sociology. . .) makes an understanding of the text worthwhile.
@@TheTwentyJuan I believe it's impossible to have knowledge of a divine creator's existence, though some - Elijah, Moses, St. Thomas, etc. - may have received such a gift. Faith is the only option I can conceive of, and I've tried to be faithful even to the extent of understanding that suffering is a necessary consequence of free will. But I don't believe in the mysteries because of the bigotry of so many adherents, because of their denial of scientific observation, and because so many claim to believe just so they can be part of a community of worshipers who exaggerate or lie about their experience of faith.
@@myghkl Interesting. I agree with the difficulty of conceptualizing the Creator, but for those questions or stumbling blocks I tend to refer to the architecture of our universe and what’s in it and find solace in the fact that their must be a grand architect. Now for me I believe the evidence leads to Christ due to the Bible’s Old testament prophecies being fulfilled then and in the New testament. I also empathize with you because of how many “Christians” seem to pretend or hyperbolize their experiences for clout or monetary gain. And not just that they don’t follow what they say to believe or preach. It’s frustrating and makes it difficult but for that I look to the Bible for those answers on why people are like that and realize that’s the nature of humans and that’s why we need God to help us be like He describes Himself to be, because if we don’t we are all destined to seek our own god of our hands/self. Question for you: Have you read the Bible fully and if you have what do you personally believe about it?
@@rijy191 Matthew 13:10-23, Mark 7:17-18 & 8:17-21 Christ speaks in parables. Those closest to him, those who became his apostles, say they don't understand him. How can those, hearing Christ for the first and only time, understand if his disciples can't? There are two important features of Christianity established in these portions of the Gospels. First, Christ is seen as irritable and lacking persuasive talent. While linking him to the impatient God of the O.T., it opens the door to Arianism. Second, the door is opened to theological interpretation initiated by the evangelists, continued by the Church Fathers and atomized in the 17th & 18th cen. by sects claiming that the scriptures should be interpreted by each believer in possession of the spirit. The more I learn about Christianity, the harder it gets to have faith.
It's always nice to see a new video from this channel. For your next religiously-themed video, may I suggest one of all the (non-monotheistic) gods mentioned in the Bible?
@@darreljones8645 I've looked and haven't found them. Any specific verses? I should also ask to clarify: Are you saying they are considered real by the Bible or not?
@@emryswilliams9190 Asherah is sometimes used in the phrase "poles of Asherah". I know Dagon, the national god of the Philistines, is mentioned as "bowing down" (or at least his idol is) to the Ark of the Covenant in First Samuel. The New Testament gods (mostly the classical Greek ones) would be mentioned in Acts, Of course, the Bible does not consider them to be real any more than your standard Christian does. Actually, the best place to find these names might be a concordance.
There's a theory that the reason for the gap of information from 12 to 30 is that Jesus traveled to northern India and learned Buddhist philosophies throughout his teens and 20s. That explains why he suddenly reappears at 30 with all these big ideas about harmony and peace and getting rid of material possessions. It's often coupled with the theory that he survived crucifixion, as he was on the cross for a much shorter time than most people executed that way, and traveled back to Kashmir where he lived out the rest of his life.
I am not a Christian, but I faithfully believe that He is GOD himself in human form from his birth to death at around the age of 30 , even though his spiritual mission only lasted for three years or so. In the Hindu Vedic parlor such a Godly manifestation is called AMSHA AVATHAR. Your chart and narrations are excellent. Very revealing. For those who question even the existence of Jesus , this documentary will be revealing.
@@jwonderfulsuccess , well, I am not just a Hindu; but a practicing Hindu on a daily basis. I have been doing this for many decades. When a person faithfully observe ( not fanatically) any chosen religion for many number of years, he or she will reach to a state of spiritual conditioning by which religions do not matter. The different forms and names of God the different faiths claim belong to the one and the only God . God is one, and reaching and experiencing that God is the goal of every human being. Among all the creations of the God , only humans are capable of dong so. Religions are just the different paths to reach that goal, just like different rivers are just different paths for the water to merge into the mighty ocean. One starts the life as a religious person but ends as a spiritual person as he or she faithfully conducts that faith. That is the way to God.
@@scm50ableOK brother it just seems the various religions teach different specific things than Jesus did. Im going to stick with 1 God the father and his only begotten son whom he sent as states in the bible. Its safe that way for me. Btw I'm not religious but focus on the 1 on 1 relationship with my creator and express it daily inward to the outward world. Blessing my friend
@@jwonderfulsuccess Good, that is the way it should be. Once your consciousness expands after few years or decades, you will come out of the religion when your spirituality gets elevated. You will still identify yourself as Christian ( nothing wrong at all) but you will start seeing all other ways to God as acceptable.
@@scm50ableI'll always remain a christian within believing only in Jesus as the only truth but I'll never judge others for their believes, only God can do that. If you want to continue this convo I have a few questions. What do you believe happens to people that do good vs people that do bad after they die? Another question, what do you think about atheists?
VERY interesting. I'm a Christian, but I learnt several new things I'd previously missed about the geographical location of Jesus (and of John the Baptist) during their ministries. Thank you!
@jonathannorris2052 well? Some of his wives were related to him, or to other important people, plus having more than one wife is very common in the Bible, so I don't understand way we make such a big deal of it
@@baldacchinonicholas7962Well when it comes to the Bible, it’s in there to teach a lesson….not to have multiple wives and to learn from the desires of iniquity, other wise you’re gonna have multiple arguments a day 😂(joke w truth) All seriousness though, the Bible shows the multiple wives in a bad light, never a good one, unlike Islam which is the opposite.
Well, I don't know about the opposite, the Quran does mention (you and your wives), but I don't know (if it's referring to an individual or a group), plus in (chapter 4 verses 1-5) it says to marry more than one, (if you have children to take care of), and says (it's better to have only one) so I don't think it's incorrigible? What do you think?
Because that chart was done by a Christian w/likely little understanding of a Hebrew day being evening to evening, or of Passover timing & practices, I see a timing issue w/his charted Crucifixion/Resurrection. He doesn't take that into account nor the sign of Jonah being also 3days/3nights.
The Biblical day started in the morning when it is daylight. Jesus was killed on Wed, laid in the tomb Thurs morning, resurrected 3 days and 3 nights later on Sunday Morning.
@@catpocalypsenow8090that’s not what the Apostolic Churches believe. On Great and Holy Friday the Orthodox Church commemorates the death of Christ on the Cross. This is the culmination of the observance of His Passion by which our Lord suffered and died for our sins. This commemoration begins on Thursday evening with the Matins of Holy Friday and concludes with a Vespers on Friday afternoon that observes the un-nailing of Christ from the Cross and the placement of His body in the tomb. Today He who hung the earth upon the waters is hung upon the Cross. He who is King of the angels is arrayed in a crown of thorns. He who wraps the heavens in clouds is wrapped in the purple of mockery. He who in Jordan set Adam free receives blows upon His face. The Bridegroom of the Church is transfixed with nails. The Son of the Virgin is pierced with a spear. We venerate Thy Passion, O Christ. Show us also Thy glorious Resurrection. (15th Antiphon of the Matins of Holy Friday)
Maybe one day someone will make GoT characters timeline chart, similiar to LoTR one that Matt mentioned? That would help George RR to finish his books quickly maybe?
I mean, historically there was a guy named Jesus, who was from Nazareth. Like there are records saying he existed. So yeah, you'd have to have a realistic structure because it's literally happening in our world
The difference is that Biiblical history is archeologically proved and keeps being proved everyday... even if a person doesn't believe in the supernatural of the gospels (which science can neither deny or confirm), it's thoroughly childish to deny the veracity of the historicity of the gospel.
@@desativadoofficial How do you reconcile the Gospels contradicting themselves? Matt, Mark and Luke generally all agree with each other but John's in comparison is made up whole cloth. Some of the Bible's most important scriptures are from John such as 3:16 for example is quoted by every Christian. Unfortunely when scholars study the Bible it's John's Gospel is considered by far the most unreliable.
The way you say your last name at the beginning is a disproportionately big reason I come back for your videos. I'll say, "Matt Bakeeeerr" in my head, then think "I wonder what he's put up recently?"
Minor theological point: he doesn't resurrect Lazarus. He raises Lazaruse. The diffrnce is that if you are raised from the dead, you die a gain. If you are resurrected, you don't die again.
Interesting. I was raised Christian, but never was a believer. My interpretation of Raised vs. Resurrection cones from DnD of all things. Raised meant your body was brought back, as undead to serve. Resurrection meant you were brought back as yourself, to continue life.
@@tomcollins4266 Jesus had heard that Lazarus was sick, but he procrastinated in going to Bethany (Lazarus's town), by the time Jesus got there Lazarus had died from sickness and been entombed for 4 days before Jesus raised him.
You seem to attract many nonbelievers who seem to need to let us all know they’re not believers in Christ- yet, I’m delighted they’re showing interest in these end times. Keep up the great work- you’re a blessing.
huh , i never realized how much happened so quickly on that last friday thursday night , he's having dinner , then a post meal chat with his friends midnight , the cops arrest him (he hasn't had any sleep) early friday morning , pilate judges and sentences him (i wouldn't think a politician would be up so early) and then just a couple of hours later , he's up on the cross (i guess "justice" moves swiftly in that town)
Hey Matt, video idea. What are your thoughts on doing a video on the topic of the history of main different interpretations of the Ten Commandments? Ie LXX order, Augustine order, modern Jewish order, Samaritan order, etc. Depending on deep you want to go, there’s much to cover. Having a nice chart summarizing them neatly would be helpful as well.
Beautiful chart! The spooky thing is that right in the middle, just to the right of word "Galilee", the black line appear to write in cursive the word "monsters"!
I'm not the student of chronology that I wish I were, but am persuaded that Jesus' public ministry was actually just over a year, and not the 3 1/2 years first suggested by Eusebius. Yes, there is a "problem" with John 6:4 but church historians before Eusebius all seemed to agree that Jesus' ministry was "about a year." This seems reasonable in view of the prophecy that the final Passover Lamb had to be one year old, without blemish.
Can you do a video on possible alternatives/revisions to the chart based on modern scholarly critiques of key events and interpretations across the gospels?
Thank you so much for you educational videos. My previous education about Jesus and the bible came from watching the Simpsons cartoons. Thanks for another point of view.
I'm curious to know how this particular sequence was decided on. It is something that is debated among Christians and among biblical scholars, how to compile the events of the gospels into one narrative sequence. See, there are many scholars and christians who believe that the disciples reported the events of the life of Jesus in a sequence that served their theological message, as opposed to reporting them in chronological order (not uncommon for biographical works of the day). It seems to me that compiling them into one coherent sequence is a complicated task, whose results are likely to be far from conclusive.
This is really great because one thing the gospels are pretty good about is saying "Jesus did this, then he went there." It seems rather funny that he spent 3 years walking (literally) around an area the size of New Jersey.
I remember hearing Bart Ehrman talk about reading the gospels in parallel without harmonization, and picking up on some discrepancies in the order of events (such as the timing of the flipping the tables of the money changers) and geography of things. Obviously it can be harmonized as this chart does for example, but I'm kind of interested now in a version of this chart that takes the 4 very linearly and in parallel with each other. It might illuminate some on the more dramatic vertical (spatial) swings/back and forths, and show some about how the harmonization itself is reasoned/constructed. It'd also be neat if some of the more interesting ancient non-canonical gospels got a similar treatment. Presumably a gospel that was just made up would be more geographically and temporally inconsistent, whereas something maybe reflecting genuine sayings or historicity or a strong tradition would presumably line up well (not that lining up well does the heavy lifting of evidencing that such a book "should" be canon or whatever, since someone could just work from the material of the canonical gospels, it would just be one avenue of a lack of evidence against it).
Bart Ehrman said that the gospels sometimes contradict each other. In the charts, for example, Jesus family goes to Egypt. That’s according to Matthew. According to Luke, no Egypt. They go to Jerusalem and Galilee. Both cannot be true. Same for the map of Jerusalem : we don’t know where all the locations mentioned in the Bible were. The city was destroyed in 70, and rebuilt after the Bar Kochba uprising. its inhabitants were banished, the city rebuilt as a roman city. So, nobody remembered where were Gethsemani garden or Golgotha were. They were « miraculously » rediscovered in the 4th century. So the chart is cherry picking, which is not honest.
@@chefchaudard3580 I don't think any gospels purport to be the _complete_ story. The mere fact that more than one is canonical suggests that no one is sufficient. So it seems fine that parts of the story are told in one, other parts in another.
@@Spearca no. There are contradictions in the Gospels. Either Joseph and his family go to Egypt before settling in Nazareth, or they are in Jerusalem and then Nazareth. They cannot be in both places at the same time. That is why trying to reconstruct Jesus life is impossible : you have to choose which gospel » tells the truth »and discard the other one. Hence « cherry picking ».’’
@@Spearca Matthew and Luke say that it is « at the same time ».! Read the text! Matthew says that the family flee to Egypt, when they come back in Judaea, Herod is dead, but his son is the king. So they settle in Galilee. For Luke, they go to Jerusalem, and go back straight to Nazareth. The way it is written, It cannot be both. Read it for yourself.
I'm going to suggest that the placement of the story of turning water into wine at the wedding is probably an error (perhaps in the recording by the apostle) and that it most probably preceded his baptism since, after that time, he seems to have separated himself from his family in deference to the ministry. Certainly we see that he still had contact with them, but as the quote from the Temple visit says, "I must be about my Father's business." This is just my opinion but it fits as I see things. I've also caught the discrepancies in the timeline within the scriptures about the last days of Jesus. So debates are quite understandable and it has to come down to, "while the record doesn't allow us to be exact, this sequence seems most likely, therefore we're going to run with that."
I believe in the death of Jesus on *wednesday 25th April 31* In this week there were *two* sabbaths : on the 1st day of unleavened bread with was on thursday but started wednesday evening (this is a so called yearly sabbath). The 2nd sabbath was the weekly one on saturday. At the end of saturday, evening before sunset, Jesus was risen after been buried about 72 hours, like as he earlier said 😮
This is awesome. Thanks so much for making this information available to us. I do want to say, when the Lord calls you into His Marvelous Light, you will have an advantage. FYI, people who are Christians must have an encounter with the Most High. It is a spiritual encounter and nothing that one could ever dream up. The Lord draws people who will totally surrender their lives to Him. Great info.
I've heard some say that the cleansing of the temple should be right before the crucifixion and that could mean all the "inauguration" period is in the wrong place. Some bible scholars say that people writing in that time period didn't write narratively like we do now and that some things could easily be out of "order".
There could be two similar events of the kind. Duplications are not always unreasonable: if Jesus preached over years through that many cities and regions, some speaches, miracles and events are bound to have been repeated, specially if there aren't strong cronologic references or conjunctions.
I love these videos, but find it absolutely hilarious that ever since watching your videos these last few weeks, my youtube algorithm is convinced I want more religious videos. UA-cam needs to figure out the difference between academic videos and religious videos lol.
Thanks al lot - very nicely laid out! Much appreciated. I didn't know that Jesus traveled so much (and so fast) back and forth. Also very interesting what each gospel has to say and to contribute to Jesus' story.
You mentioned that you were not a Christian....but your video made me believe in Jesus MORE!!!! 4 people wrote their perspectives of GOD coming to Earth,
I’m no specialist, but going off what I understand from the earliest manuscripts of John and what I’ve seen of longform quotation of John in other early church writings, the extra Passovers seem to be a scribal error that crept in sometime in the fifth century, with the original likely also communicating a one year career for Jesus.
The events surrounding the Gadarene (Mark 5) took place in southern Spain, NOT Gallilee the sea that he calmed was not Gallilee but the Mediteranian. Turns out Gadaria is a place in southern spain, even to this day. and the necropolus is also there, the pigs are there, there are no pigs in israel.
I understand your focus for this channel is laying out historical data in chart form, but would you ever consider doing a breakdown for the Shroud of Turin? Given its extensive examination by the scientific community to be authentic and not manufactured, would you consider the information collected from it to contribute to the reliability of Gospel accounts?
I hope you got your answers about his charts. He made dozens and they were popular with independent fundamental baptists for years. They were published in book form, although that might have been later than they were originally made. Good luck. Probably available through used book outlets.
according to Catholics. after Jesus ascends into Heaven, Peter, one of his apostles receives what's known as the Keys of The Kingdom of Heaven leading to his appointment as the first bishop of Rome and thus creating the Papacy with Peter as the first pope.
It’s in Matt 16:19, before Jesus dies. “I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven”
@@desativadoofficial So who decides how to interpret a text, the one that writes it or the one who receives it 2000 years later? Without the Catholic Church, you wouldn't have a Bible. It was canonized in the 4th century by a council of Bishops. I don't think it's HonestidadeSuprema that holds the keys to correctly interpreting scriptures.
@@hanntonn2 The one who gets the interpretation is the one who has received the Holy Spirit. God used the heretical Catholic Church such as he used the sinful Persians to keep Israel safe. The Catholic Church was just a corrupted Christianity used to go according to the Roman belief, gods were substituted by saints, but yet worshipped... words were substituted, so worship now would be "venerate", but yet the same idolatry actions. The Catholic Church just made use of usurpation taking the true Christians titles to themselves, and that's how it keeps until nowadays.
Indeed, very interesting. Thank you very much. Took me some time to get it. Personally, i would have preferred arrows to show the journeys on the map. Maybe even distances.
I'm curious why you say, "If you look at this chart from a religious perspective or one of literature, it's up to you." What about strictly from a historical perspective? Over the decades, many of the names and places have been confirmed. In addition....what about from a perspective of seeking the truth of the events? Sometimes things are believed just because people want to believe them; but sometimes things are believed in spite of reason or ridicule...due to reasons more mysterious...metaphysical...and spiritual.
Because relentless skepticism of everything Christians say is the defacto standard in European and Christian history. Whereas taking what people say at face value as long as they are contemporary and there is no glaring reason not to is pretty much the standard elsewhere like when it comes to the life of pagan figures and the absurd Napoleonic size armies described in ancient Chinese history.
@@archieames1968 Defacto standard in some circles. Credulous acceptance in many others. Attempting to take everything described in the Gospels at face value gets quite unlikely very quickly. For example, the 2 birth narratives seem clearly created for theological reasons and require a good deal of stretching to harmonize with each other. In other examples, the same events take place in different orders in different Gospels and attempts to harmonize them often involve claims they happened twice with each gospel mentioning a different one.
@@archieames1968And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. Genesis 1:16 The moon isn't a light. It reflects the sun.
@@mg-ew2xf I'm not saying secular academics should blindly accept the literary or supernatural elements of the Bible. Just that in historical documents they tend to automatically discount the writings of christians more than others when it comes to events etc. Plus your argument is kind of weak. Some dude in 600BC definition of a light doesn't necessarily need to align exactly with the modern definition. Thats like saying 'um acktually a whale is not really a fish its a mammal. that proves the bible wrong'
@@archieames1968 i think many Christians would argue with saying that the bible isn't the inspired word of God. Not me though. I agree it has some mistakes.
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Please make a video about the writing timelines of oral torah. Thanks
The American Baptist Historical Society in Atlanta has a copy of "Bird's Eye View of the Life of Paul". There are several newspaper articles from the 1890s which suggest that Isaac Earle took these pamphlets on a lecturing tour of the northeast around that time. He may never have actually published the Paul pamphlet but it does seem to exist.
I suspect they are all published, but none or almost none survived to the modern day. I suspect this is due to a combination of low production rate and the target audience not placing any value on retention of these documents and viewing them as read and toss literature, which is common with all pamphlets of this style.
Should of looked at the comments before going on a 2 hour dive of copywrite, grave, and newspaper records
@@thinthest6832 , I found the same in a 3 second Google search. I surmise that the person you replied to did as much.
So much was self published in those days. There may not have been very many copies to begin with.
I wonder if there's a bounty for rare literature.
I feel like some copy , as rare as it amy be, of the pamphletes still exist one way or the other.
I really appreciate the lengths you go to maintain neutrality/objectivity on biblical subjects. So many presenters will talk about the biblical narrative completely uncritically or dismiss it entirely, you manage to find the sweet spot
I completely agree. It's outstanding.
As a believer (Christian) myself, I also agree. Far too many of my own have dogmatic views where even other Christian branches that may disagree even to a certain extent, will shun them out. I personally believe the Bible is not meant to be fully understood in one’s own lifetime. Rather it should be read over, meditated on, and ask questions for clarity. In my opinion, the Bible is much more nuanced than many give it credit for.
Thank you for making these videos, hope your medical issues are resolved and controlled quickly and comfortably.
Hi Matt - Thanks for sharing this wonderful chart with us. I am currently the custodian of a big corner cupboard that has been in the family since it was built for my great-great-great grandmother's wedding by her brothers. It's been all over the US in many different households over the past 160 years and we've documented its history, but I've been wanting to put together some kind of graphic, and this chart is just the example I've been waiting for!
Really really really enjoy your work
Peace
Kenny
It's indeed a really nice map. One detail I noticed that you didn't mention is that the exact position of the point that marks an event within the geographic section also relates to it's geography. For example, events happening in Betharaba are marked near the horizontal line that divides Peraea and Judea because Betharaba is indeed very close to the geographic border between Peraea and Judea. That's some major planning about how to order the horizontal sections and placing the dots!
It would have been nice if The chart marked location down at bottom in the notes section. Very glad that video actually mentioned actual town names.
What I find so interesting is the only gospels that talk about anything from Jesus young life are the ones that had the ability to have Mary and Jesus’s brother as sources . Very cool
Thanks
This is a great chart and thank you for sharing the map and demonstration. It ironic that you know the details of Jesus' life more than a lot of Christians......and you aren't claiming to be a Christian. I certainly should study more myself! Thank you for this video!
Iirc he was a christian, then converted to judaism after a period of skepticism (sorry Matt if I'm being reductionist with your life)
Thank you i really appreciate you just presenting the information. I think everyone knows that you disagree with it being historical but I appreciate you just presenting it so even Christians can enjoy the content.
Thank you always for the frank and honest presentations on your channel.
Back when I was a teenager, I wanted to write a novel that would make Peter the main character and follow him around. But this was before the internet was readily available, so I had to make do with literally just the Bible to make sure I was factually correct. IIRC, I gave up when I couldn't figure out all the disciples' names. Something like this would've been so amazingly helpful.
Do it again, I would love to see/read it!
Would've loved to see your work man 🥺
Well, Mark followed Peter around and took notes & wrote the gospel.
You could’ve just read the Bible and found the disciples names
Fascinating. I love your charts and the way you teach.
FINALLY!!! A Vintage Chart Review that Makes Sense.
Good job!
Thank for this awesome presentation. I love the way the chart is laid out & how you made the information clear and not overwhelming at all. An excellent presentation!
Thank you for this. It's a terrific help. Though I'm not a believer, the impact of the New Testament on world civilization (art, literature, ethics, law, psychology, sociology. . .) makes an understanding of the text worthwhile.
May I ask why you don’t believe?
@@TheTwentyJuan I believe it's impossible to have knowledge of a divine creator's existence, though some - Elijah, Moses, St. Thomas, etc. - may have received such a gift. Faith is the only option I can conceive of, and I've tried to be faithful even to the extent of understanding that suffering is a necessary consequence of free will. But I don't believe in the mysteries because of the bigotry of so many adherents, because of their denial of scientific observation, and because so many claim to believe just so they can be part of a community of worshipers who exaggerate or lie about their experience of faith.
@@myghkl Interesting. I agree with the difficulty of conceptualizing the Creator, but for those questions or stumbling blocks I tend to refer to the architecture of our universe and what’s in it and find solace in the fact that their must be a grand architect. Now for me I believe the evidence leads to Christ due to the Bible’s Old testament prophecies being fulfilled then and in the New testament.
I also empathize with you because of how many “Christians” seem to pretend or hyperbolize their experiences for clout or monetary gain. And not just that they don’t follow what they say to believe or preach. It’s frustrating and makes it difficult but for that I look to the Bible for those answers on why people are like that and realize that’s the nature of humans and that’s why we need God to help us be like He describes Himself to be, because if we don’t we are all destined to seek our own god of our hands/self.
Question for you:
Have you read the Bible fully and if you have what do you personally believe about it?
@@myghkl What about the New Testament did you like the most?
@@rijy191 Matthew 13:10-23, Mark 7:17-18 & 8:17-21 Christ speaks in parables. Those closest to him, those who became his apostles, say they don't understand him. How can those, hearing Christ for the first and only time, understand if his disciples can't? There are two important features of Christianity established in these portions of the Gospels. First, Christ is seen as irritable and lacking persuasive talent. While linking him to the impatient God of the O.T., it opens the door to Arianism. Second, the door is opened to theological interpretation initiated by the evangelists, continued by the Church Fathers and atomized in the 17th & 18th cen. by sects claiming that the scriptures should be interpreted by each believer in possession of the spirit. The more I learn about Christianity, the harder it gets to have faith.
What a great chart! Very impressive from a technical point of view, independent of what you think of the story of Jesus.
I'm religious by any means and yet here I am hooked to your videos about religion in the historical context.
I'm religious by any means 🙃
I liked the black highlighting as you spoke. Found that quite helpful - especially when viewing on a phone's small screen!
I'm not even Christian, but the snarky atheism on display in the comments is so... "cringe".
That's all they have.
@@vincentcoppola9832"That's all they have." - that's all there is. When people believe in magic the response is either derision... or silence.
I think what you are hearing as 'snarky atheism' is just what you get when you try to speak objectively, and not as a committed Christian.
@@TheDanEdwards You are right. Silence is an option, but I think that is what the question was about, why be snarky when silence is more appropriate.
Next time don’t cringe when someone claims to believe in witches and magic or whatever YOU deem superstitious.
Thanks for sharing Matt. 👍🏻I’m not a Christian, but this is a truly excellent chart - love it! (Learnt some stuff!)👏🏻
Funny enough, Matt’s not a Christian either. Just goes to show anyone can appreciate knowledge
Just curious, what religion are you?
@@jimfloyd6095 none really
@@jimfloyd6095probably not religious
@@jimfloyd6095 Somewhere he mentioned that he's jewish (was an other video)
Once again, an excellent episode, my friend.
It's always nice to see a new video from this channel. For your next religiously-themed video, may I suggest one of all the (non-monotheistic) gods mentioned in the Bible?
Haven't found any; can you name a few that aren't just the God of the Jews?
@@emryswilliams9190 Yes; Asherah and Dagon in the Old Testament, Zeus and Diana in the New.
@@emryswilliams9190 then you haven't tried very hard have you.
Baal is another good example.
@@darreljones8645 I've looked and haven't found them. Any specific verses?
I should also ask to clarify: Are you saying they are considered real by the Bible or not?
@@emryswilliams9190 Asherah is sometimes used in the phrase "poles of Asherah". I know Dagon, the national god of the Philistines, is mentioned as "bowing down" (or at least his idol is) to the Ark of the Covenant in First Samuel.
The New Testament gods (mostly the classical Greek ones) would be mentioned in Acts,
Of course, the Bible does not consider them to be real any more than your standard Christian does. Actually, the best place to find these names might be a concordance.
You're just in time, since we've just started the Christmas season in the Philippines!
There's a theory that the reason for the gap of information from 12 to 30 is that Jesus traveled to northern India and learned Buddhist philosophies throughout his teens and 20s. That explains why he suddenly reappears at 30 with all these big ideas about harmony and peace and getting rid of material possessions. It's often coupled with the theory that he survived crucifixion, as he was on the cross for a much shorter time than most people executed that way, and traveled back to Kashmir where he lived out the rest of his life.
The most common theory is that he actually traveled to Britain with his uncle who was a tin trader.
There is nothing to support the India theory however.
Don't forget about the spear through His heart.
It's not a theory if there's literally no objective historical or archeological evidence for it.
I appreciate this chart and thank you for sharing.
I LOVE IT! Thank you for all of your hard work!
I am not a Christian, but I faithfully believe that He is GOD himself in human form from his birth to death at around the age of 30 , even though his spiritual mission only lasted for three years or so. In the Hindu Vedic parlor such a Godly manifestation is called AMSHA AVATHAR. Your chart and narrations are excellent. Very revealing. For those who question even the existence of Jesus , this documentary will be revealing.
You believe Jesus is God but you're not a Christian??
@@jwonderfulsuccess , well, I am not just a Hindu; but a practicing Hindu on a daily basis. I have been doing this for many decades. When a person faithfully observe ( not fanatically) any chosen religion for many number of years, he or she will reach to a state of spiritual conditioning by which religions do not matter. The different forms and names of God the different faiths claim belong to the one and the only God . God is one, and reaching and experiencing that God is the goal of every human being. Among all the creations of the God , only humans are capable of dong so. Religions are just the different paths to reach that goal, just like different rivers are just different paths for the water to merge into the mighty ocean. One starts the life as a religious person but ends as a spiritual person as he or she faithfully conducts that faith. That is the way to God.
@@scm50ableOK brother it just seems the various religions teach different specific things than Jesus did. Im going to stick with 1 God the father and his only begotten son whom he sent as states in the bible. Its safe that way for me. Btw I'm not religious but focus on the 1 on 1 relationship with my creator and express it daily inward to the outward world. Blessing my friend
@@jwonderfulsuccess Good, that is the way it should be. Once your consciousness expands after few years or decades, you will come out of the religion when your spirituality gets elevated. You will still identify yourself as Christian ( nothing wrong at all) but you will start seeing all other ways to God as acceptable.
@@scm50ableI'll always remain a christian within believing only in Jesus as the only truth but I'll never judge others for their believes, only God can do that.
If you want to continue this convo I have a few questions. What do you believe happens to people that do good vs people that do bad after they die? Another question, what do you think about atheists?
Great stuff! Thank you for finding and sharing such a cool chart. Very useful indeed.
Good video again and good chart!
The baptist church in Cavendish, Vermont has an old canvas copy of this map that is huge! Like 30 feet!
VERY interesting. I'm a Christian, but I learnt several new things I'd previously missed about the geographical location of Jesus (and of John the Baptist) during their ministries. Thank you!
You should definitely make a video about Muhammed, his life, his travels, his wives and families, thank you
His wives....they might want to skip that part.
@jonathannorris2052 well? Some of his wives were related to him, or to other important people, plus having more than one wife is very common in the Bible, so I don't understand way we make such a big deal of it
@@baldacchinonicholas7962Well when it comes to the Bible, it’s in there to teach a lesson….not to have multiple wives and to learn from the desires of iniquity, other wise you’re gonna have multiple arguments a day 😂(joke w truth)
All seriousness though, the Bible shows the multiple wives in a bad light, never a good one, unlike Islam which is the opposite.
Well, I don't know about the opposite, the Quran does mention (you and your wives), but I don't know (if it's referring to an individual or a group), plus in (chapter 4 verses 1-5) it says to marry more than one, (if you have children to take care of), and says (it's better to have only one) so I don't think it's incorrigible? What do you think?
@@baldacchinonicholas7962Wasn't one of Muhammed's wives very underage...?
Because that chart was done by a Christian w/likely little understanding of a Hebrew day being evening to evening, or of Passover timing & practices, I see a timing issue w/his charted Crucifixion/Resurrection. He doesn't take that into account nor the sign of Jonah being also 3days/3nights.
The Biblical day started in the morning when it is daylight. Jesus was killed on Wed, laid in the tomb Thurs morning, resurrected 3 days and 3 nights later on Sunday Morning.
@@catpocalypsenow8090that’s not what the Apostolic Churches believe.
On Great and Holy Friday the Orthodox Church commemorates the death of Christ on the Cross. This is the culmination of the observance of His Passion by which our Lord suffered and died for our sins. This commemoration begins on Thursday evening with the Matins of Holy Friday and concludes with a Vespers on Friday afternoon that observes the un-nailing of Christ from the Cross and the placement of His body in the tomb.
Today He who hung the earth upon the waters is hung upon the Cross. He who is King of the angels is arrayed in a crown of thorns. He who wraps the heavens in clouds is wrapped in the purple of mockery. He who in Jordan set Adam free receives blows upon His face. The Bridegroom of the Church is transfixed with nails. The Son of the Virgin is pierced with a spear. We venerate Thy Passion, O Christ. Show us also Thy glorious Resurrection.
(15th Antiphon of the Matins of Holy Friday)
Hope you have a nice Thanksgiving, Matt 😊
Awesome video mate. Please make similar ones for Abraham and Moses.
So there is a structure to Jesus' ministry, unlike Game of Throne last 2 season where people just teleported everywhere.
Maybe one day someone will make GoT characters timeline chart, similiar to LoTR one that Matt mentioned? That would help George RR to finish his books quickly maybe?
@@HobiAI There is a dynamic map already
I mean, historically there was a guy named Jesus, who was from Nazareth. Like there are records saying he existed. So yeah, you'd have to have a realistic structure because it's literally happening in our world
The difference is that Biiblical history is archeologically proved and keeps being proved everyday... even if a person doesn't believe in the supernatural of the gospels (which science can neither deny or confirm), it's thoroughly childish to deny the veracity of the historicity of the gospel.
@@desativadoofficial How do you reconcile the Gospels contradicting themselves? Matt, Mark and Luke generally all agree with each other but John's in comparison is made up whole cloth. Some of the Bible's most important scriptures are from John such as 3:16 for example is quoted by every Christian. Unfortunely when scholars study the Bible it's John's Gospel is considered by far the most unreliable.
The way you say your last name at the beginning is a disproportionately big reason I come back for your videos. I'll say, "Matt Bakeeeerr" in my head, then think "I wonder what he's put up recently?"
Minor theological point: he doesn't resurrect Lazarus. He raises Lazaruse. The diffrnce is that if you are raised from the dead, you die a gain. If you are resurrected, you don't die again.
Interesting. I was raised Christian, but never was a believer. My interpretation of Raised vs. Resurrection cones from DnD of all things.
Raised meant your body was brought back, as undead to serve. Resurrection meant you were brought back as yourself, to continue life.
Was Lazarus dead though when Jesus came to him? I’m not trying to be jerky and challenge you or anything. I’m just here to learn. Thank you!
@@tomcollins4266
Jesus had heard that Lazarus was sick, but he procrastinated in going to Bethany (Lazarus's town), by the time Jesus got there Lazarus had died from sickness and been entombed for 4 days before Jesus raised him.
@@401Revan That is very interesting. Thank you for taking the time to respond. I really appreciate it.
@@BockwinkleB More evidence that Jesus was a Lich
Thank you Matt for this 🙏😭✨
Great presentation. Thank you.
You seem to attract many nonbelievers who seem to need to let us all know they’re not believers in Christ- yet, I’m delighted they’re showing interest in these end times.
Keep up the great work- you’re a blessing.
It’s been the end times for thousands of years, don’t worry
I’m still laughing about the end times comment.
Oh no. The end times? Not again! What's this now, the 64th time the end times have been declared by Christians?
Thanks for another great video, and also the chart, very useful for a quick reference. God bless.
huh , i never realized how much happened so quickly on that last friday
thursday night , he's having dinner , then a post meal chat with his friends
midnight , the cops arrest him (he hasn't had any sleep)
early friday morning , pilate judges and sentences him (i wouldn't think a politician would be up so early)
and then just a couple of hours later , he's up on the cross (i guess "justice" moves swiftly in that town)
Exactly. “Three days and three nights” was crammed into 28 hours 🙄
Roman politicians were up that early. They solved all matters of state from early dawn to noon and enjoyed aristocratic leisure after that
Hey Matt, video idea. What are your thoughts on doing a video on the topic of the history of main different interpretations of the Ten Commandments? Ie LXX order, Augustine order, modern Jewish order, Samaritan order, etc. Depending on deep you want to go, there’s much to cover. Having a nice chart summarizing them neatly would be helpful as well.
Love this channel
Absolutely incredible Matt. Thank you.
Thank you Matt
You are such an excellent teacher! I so appreciate the way you break things down for easier understanding.
Matt, just in time! Congrats!!!
Beautiful chart! The spooky thing is that right in the middle, just to the right of word "Galilee", the black line appear to write in cursive the word "monsters"!
what a beautiful chart!
Thanks for the great video. Keep it up 👍🏻
The Batt Maker is back! Knockin’ it out of the park!
I'm not the student of chronology that I wish I were, but am persuaded that Jesus' public ministry was actually just over a year, and not the 3 1/2 years first suggested by Eusebius. Yes, there is a "problem" with John 6:4 but church historians before Eusebius all seemed to agree that Jesus' ministry was "about a year." This seems reasonable in view of the prophecy that the final Passover Lamb had to be one year old, without blemish.
Do you have a link to the chart about lord of the rings? 😊
Just google XKCD LOTR
Of all charts that can possibly influence our lives, I find THIS the most important and interesting! :) Thank you !
You weren't wrong. An incredibly well made chart.
Can you do a video on possible alternatives/revisions to the chart based on modern scholarly critiques of key events and interpretations across the gospels?
Awesome! Now do one for Zeus and Thor!
matt you are my favourite chart maker
Thank you so much for you educational videos. My previous education about Jesus and the bible came from watching the Simpsons cartoons. Thanks for another point of view.
Do you have any of your charts available in pdf ?
Approaching the gospel as works of literature… Right…Thank you for doing this. I have watched several videos. They are excellent.
I'm curious to know how this particular sequence was decided on. It is something that is debated among Christians and among biblical scholars, how to compile the events of the gospels into one narrative sequence. See, there are many scholars and christians who believe that the disciples reported the events of the life of Jesus in a sequence that served their theological message, as opposed to reporting them in chronological order (not uncommon for biographical works of the day). It seems to me that compiling them into one coherent sequence is a complicated task, whose results are likely to be far from conclusive.
Wow amazing, what a great way to really see how it all ties together with references to time and location! Thank you
Hi, may i remake this video in indonesian language and upload to my channel?
The chart is in the public domain so you can definitely make a similar video based on it. But you cannot simply copy our animations.
@@UsefulCharts thank you
This is really great because one thing the gospels are pretty good about is saying "Jesus did this, then he went there." It seems rather funny that he spent 3 years walking (literally) around an area the size of New Jersey.
What a concise, well thought out chart. Nice video, sir. Cheers.
I needed to think about Jesus today. ❤
I remember hearing Bart Ehrman talk about reading the gospels in parallel without harmonization, and picking up on some discrepancies in the order of events (such as the timing of the flipping the tables of the money changers) and geography of things. Obviously it can be harmonized as this chart does for example, but I'm kind of interested now in a version of this chart that takes the 4 very linearly and in parallel with each other. It might illuminate some on the more dramatic vertical (spatial) swings/back and forths, and show some about how the harmonization itself is reasoned/constructed.
It'd also be neat if some of the more interesting ancient non-canonical gospels got a similar treatment. Presumably a gospel that was just made up would be more geographically and temporally inconsistent, whereas something maybe reflecting genuine sayings or historicity or a strong tradition would presumably line up well (not that lining up well does the heavy lifting of evidencing that such a book "should" be canon or whatever, since someone could just work from the material of the canonical gospels, it would just be one avenue of a lack of evidence against it).
Bart Ehrman said that the gospels sometimes contradict each other.
In the charts, for example, Jesus family goes to Egypt. That’s according to Matthew.
According to Luke, no Egypt. They go to Jerusalem and Galilee.
Both cannot be true.
Same for the map of Jerusalem : we don’t know where all the locations mentioned in the Bible were. The city was destroyed in 70, and rebuilt after the Bar Kochba uprising. its inhabitants were banished, the city rebuilt as a roman city. So, nobody remembered where were Gethsemani garden or Golgotha were. They were « miraculously » rediscovered in the 4th century.
So the chart is cherry picking, which is not honest.
@@chefchaudard3580 I don't think any gospels purport to be the _complete_ story. The mere fact that more than one is canonical suggests that no one is sufficient. So it seems fine that parts of the story are told in one, other parts in another.
@@Spearca no. There are contradictions in the Gospels.
Either Joseph and his family go to Egypt before settling in Nazareth, or they are in Jerusalem and then Nazareth.
They cannot be in both places at the same time.
That is why trying to reconstruct Jesus life is impossible : you have to choose which gospel » tells the truth »and discard the other one.
Hence « cherry picking ».’’
@@chefchaudard3580 Who says those two things are "at the same time"? There's plenty of undescribed time in Jesus' life, per any one gospel.
@@Spearca Matthew and Luke say that it is « at the same time ».!
Read the text!
Matthew says that the family flee to Egypt, when they come back in Judaea, Herod is dead, but his son is the king. So they settle in Galilee.
For Luke, they go to Jerusalem, and go back straight to Nazareth.
The way it is written, It cannot be both.
Read it for yourself.
I'm going to suggest that the placement of the story of turning water into wine at the wedding is probably an error (perhaps in the recording by the apostle) and that it most probably preceded his baptism since, after that time, he seems to have separated himself from his family in deference to the ministry. Certainly we see that he still had contact with them, but as the quote from the Temple visit says, "I must be about my Father's business." This is just my opinion but it fits as I see things.
I've also caught the discrepancies in the timeline within the scriptures about the last days of Jesus. So debates are quite understandable and it has to come down to, "while the record doesn't allow us to be exact, this sequence seems most likely, therefore we're going to run with that."
Another great video! I love some roman era content.
Again, fantastic !!! my congratulations to your job.
I believe in the death of Jesus on *wednesday 25th April 31*
In this week there were *two* sabbaths : on the 1st day of unleavened bread with was on thursday but started wednesday evening (this is a so called yearly sabbath). The 2nd sabbath was the weekly one on saturday. At the end of saturday, evening before sunset, Jesus was risen after been buried about 72 hours, like as he earlier said 😮
I met Jesus. I think your right.
Kind of insane in terms of graphics for the time.
The 4 gospels give 4 different timelines. The word "harmony" means they distort each one to make them seem like they match.
I could have sworn you made a video about the Jewish time line but im not able to find it :( Really love your videos!
This is awesome. Thanks so much for making this information available to us. I do want to say, when the Lord calls you into His Marvelous Light, you will have an advantage. FYI, people who are Christians must have an encounter with the Most High. It is a spiritual encounter and nothing that one could ever dream up. The Lord draws people who will totally surrender their lives to Him. Great info.
I do love this Channel non bias and pure fact.
I've heard some say that the cleansing of the temple should be right before the crucifixion and that could mean all the "inauguration" period is in the wrong place. Some bible scholars say that people writing in that time period didn't write narratively like we do now and that some things could easily be out of "order".
There could be two similar events of the kind. Duplications are not always unreasonable: if Jesus preached over years through that many cities and regions, some speaches, miracles and events are bound to have been repeated, specially if there aren't strong cronologic references or conjunctions.
such wonderful work. thank you!
I love these videos, but find it absolutely hilarious that ever since watching your videos these last few weeks, my youtube algorithm is convinced I want more religious videos. UA-cam needs to figure out the difference between academic videos and religious videos lol.
Haha. Sorry about that!
Is it UA-cam or…{insert climactic music here}…Jesus sneaking in? He seems to master my feed as well😋Not a bad issue though.
Same here
That is so annoying.
Thanks al lot - very nicely laid out! Much appreciated. I didn't know that Jesus traveled so much (and so fast) back and forth. Also very interesting what each gospel has to say and to contribute to Jesus' story.
You mentioned that you were not a Christian....but your video made me believe in Jesus MORE!!!! 4 people wrote their perspectives of GOD coming to Earth,
Is a printed version available at your store on Commercial Dr.?
No, sorry. There are some sellers in Etsy who sell it though.
Wonderful chart! Would love to have this printed so I can place it on my office wall. Any plans on offering prints of this chart?
I’m no specialist, but going off what I understand from the earliest manuscripts of John and what I’ve seen of longform quotation of John in other early church writings, the extra Passovers seem to be a scribal error that crept in sometime in the fifth century, with the original likely also communicating a one year career for Jesus.
Professional chart maker / UA-cam star
Nice
I’d love to see you cover the other chart you showed at 1:11 too
The events surrounding the Gadarene (Mark 5) took place in southern Spain, NOT Gallilee
the sea that he calmed was not Gallilee but the Mediteranian.
Turns out Gadaria is a place in southern spain, even to this day. and the necropolus is also there, the pigs are there, there are no pigs in israel.
Can you please do a video on the Historicity of Jesus, with a view on Richard Carrier’s work?
I understand your focus for this channel is laying out historical data in chart form, but would you ever consider doing a breakdown for the Shroud of Turin? Given its extensive examination by the scientific community to be authentic and not manufactured, would you consider the information collected from it to contribute to the reliability of Gospel accounts?
Excellent! Thank you!
I hope you got your answers about his charts. He made dozens and they were popular with independent fundamental baptists for years. They were published in book form, although that might have been later than they were originally made. Good luck. Probably available through used book outlets.
Great presentation! That do you call those those type of visual presentations?
2:00 I wonder whether Earle never published those other titles because he didn't have any chart by Larkin to -steal- "slightly adapt".
according to Catholics. after Jesus ascends into Heaven, Peter, one of his apostles receives what's known as the Keys of The Kingdom of Heaven leading to his appointment as the first bishop of Rome and thus creating the Papacy with Peter as the first pope.
They don't know how to interpret a text
It’s in Matt 16:19, before Jesus dies.
“I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven”
@@desativadoofficial So who decides how to interpret a text, the one that writes it or the one who receives it 2000 years later? Without the Catholic Church, you wouldn't have a Bible. It was canonized in the 4th century by a council of Bishops. I don't think it's HonestidadeSuprema that holds the keys to correctly interpreting scriptures.
@@hanntonn2 The one who gets the interpretation is the one who has received the Holy Spirit. God used the heretical Catholic Church such as he used the sinful Persians to keep Israel safe. The Catholic Church was just a corrupted Christianity used to go according to the Roman belief, gods were substituted by saints, but yet worshipped... words were substituted, so worship now would be "venerate", but yet the same idolatry actions. The Catholic Church just made use of usurpation taking the true Christians titles to themselves, and that's how it keeps until nowadays.
But not Papal supremacy ☦️
Indeed, very interesting. Thank you very much. Took me some time to get it. Personally, i would have preferred arrows to show the journeys on the map. Maybe even distances.
I'm curious why you say, "If you look at this chart from a religious perspective or one of literature, it's up to you." What about strictly from a historical perspective? Over the decades, many of the names and places have been confirmed. In addition....what about from a perspective of seeking the truth of the events? Sometimes things are believed just because people want to believe them; but sometimes things are believed in spite of reason or ridicule...due to reasons more mysterious...metaphysical...and spiritual.
Because relentless skepticism of everything Christians say is the defacto standard in European and Christian history. Whereas taking what people say at face value as long as they are contemporary and there is no glaring reason not to is pretty much the standard elsewhere like when it comes to the life of pagan figures and the absurd Napoleonic size armies described in ancient Chinese history.
@@archieames1968 Defacto standard in some circles. Credulous acceptance in many others.
Attempting to take everything described in the Gospels at face value gets quite unlikely very quickly. For example, the 2 birth narratives seem clearly created for theological reasons and require a good deal of stretching to harmonize with each other.
In other examples, the same events take place in different orders in different Gospels and attempts to harmonize them often involve claims they happened twice with each gospel mentioning a different one.
@@archieames1968And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. Genesis 1:16
The moon isn't a light. It reflects the sun.
@@mg-ew2xf I'm not saying secular academics should blindly accept the literary or supernatural elements of the Bible. Just that in historical documents they tend to automatically discount the writings of christians more than others when it comes to events etc. Plus your argument is kind of weak. Some dude in 600BC definition of a light doesn't necessarily need to align exactly with the modern definition. Thats like saying 'um acktually a whale is not really a fish its a mammal. that proves the bible wrong'
@@archieames1968 i think many Christians would argue with saying that the bible isn't the inspired word of God. Not me though. I agree it has some mistakes.
The name above all names!! King of Kings, Lord of Lords, the first and the last, the Alpha and Omega, Thank you Jesus 🙏👑