The Decline of Policing in Britain | Melanie Phillips

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  • @colinnewmarch1106
    @colinnewmarch1106 Рік тому +296

    When I joined the Met in 1971 , we were a force, who policed with a police station in every town, we also provided a service, lost and found property, alarms, keyholders and a whole lot more. Then it changed to a police service with fancy logos on car doors. It stopped providing a service. Along came Teresa May, the decimater of the Met. Senior officers of the old school retired and were replaced by high flying university graduates who had no clue on Policing in practice. Police stations were sold off, and withdrew from the public .Media scrutiny became intense and now everyone films everyone else.Respect was lost and crime flourished , Courts became ineffective relying more on the defence argument that the suspect was a cheeky boy, and the CPS only prosecuted when a high threshold was met. Will common sense ever prevail with all public services now in decline ,I doubt it without firm resolve

    • @johnallen7807
      @johnallen7807 Рік тому +30

      Correct, when it went from a "Force" to a "Service" they became social workers in uniform. I recall a glaring example of a so-called high flyer, a female graduate who was promoted to the rank of Assistant Chief Constable within 4 years of joining despite never having made an arrest in her career!

    • @mikeh7028
      @mikeh7028 Рік тому +24

      As a retired Surrey police officer I agree 100%. It was/is not just the Met , it's national. With entry now thro a ridiculous woke university degree course and recruitment (and subsequent promotion) selection by "ethnicity, diversity and inclusion" rather than merit, what do you expect?

    • @Eric-the-Bold
      @Eric-the-Bold Рік тому

      London Met, SPG Disbanded, the new TSG formed , some members of the SPG were not invited to stay with the TSG which become more of a riot type squad but did continue to sort out crime in various locations in London. That same TSG now are identified as taking the knee in support of BLM while the Inspector just stands by. In my opinion The Police are now taking orders from Political masters pushing their agenda . Yours old one unit.

    • @Foxyexrn
      @Foxyexrn Рік тому +12

      The nhs is the same.

    • @reaccionapr
      @reaccionapr Рік тому +7

      You were victim of what Thomas Sowell calls The Vision of The Anointed

  • @dareks8000
    @dareks8000 Рік тому +121

    Melanie Phillips delivers joyous clarity in these matters.

    • @remaincalm2
      @remaincalm2 Рік тому +6

      Joyous? I would say depressing clarity, not joyous. 😄😥

  • @robbeales5516
    @robbeales5516 Рік тому +285

    As a builder for fifty years I have worked for educated people and and believe me an education DOES NOT GIVE YOU INTELLIGENCE.

    • @Harassed247
      @Harassed247 Рік тому

      Exactly what I've been saying, educated idiots is what's running this country, in every establishment from the Government, NHS, police, absolutely the whole country. Our sovereignty is gone and the boundaries that we did have are now gone. At 63 years of age it saddens me to see such a horrible and dysfunctional country.

    • @LuzdoSol00
      @LuzdoSol00 Рік тому +2

      You are there to be educated and not to be intelligent. Real intelligence is what you do actually, a work that you will be doing for a long time and this is safety. Some organizations must stay neutral and police are one of them.

    • @jamesbarbour8400
      @jamesbarbour8400 Рік тому +9

      Yep, you only have to look at our MPs, and the mess they have all made of this Country, to realise the truth of that statement.

    • @chrispalmer9838
      @chrispalmer9838 Рік тому +10

      Even genuine intelligence doesn't guarantee integrity...

    • @Afro3461
      @Afro3461 Рік тому +12

      So true! Having a degree or doctorate from a higher education system does not necessarily mean that you have been blessed with a surfeit of common sense! On the contrary, it’s quite usually the exact opposite!

  • @davidharrison1586
    @davidharrison1586 Рік тому +381

    I'm a retired police officer and I broadly agree with Melanie Phillips. Whilst serving I once wrote to her, I believe, in her Daily Mail years about police decline (and received a reply). The rot set in during the Blair years and has been going downhill ever since. I tend to agree with her on most of what she says and writes. The police are now a woke, politically correct organisation and it only takes one generation to lose what remained of solid policing forever.

    • @paddyfrancis1328
      @paddyfrancis1328 Рік тому +8

      Well said. I did exactly that.

    • @terryreknaw6152
      @terryreknaw6152 Рік тому +20

      Another aspect of policing gone wrong is the majority of policing is driving around in cars and vans. The days of getting to know a Bobby on the beat engaging politely with the people of the area has gone and made them unreachable. There's a distance between them and the communities including the unfortunate stab proof vests which is itself another barrier. All by design I'm sure .They seem to be more of a paramilitary force roaming around in vehicles ready to pounce. It's really gone down the pan. I suspect in the near future facial recognition will be rolled out to help policing. I hope I'm wrong.

    • @damionkeeling3103
      @damionkeeling3103 Рік тому

      @@terryreknaw6152 Thanks to multi-culturalism society now has competing morals and so called minority groups get their morals protected more. This has led to an upswing in crime overall and the police don't have the numbers to patrol on foot. They need to be mobile to cover the huge area that crimes are likely to occur in. Given too the politically correct form of policing on the ground it's probably best they're in their cars and not harassing innocent people based on an anonymous complaint about language being used.
      When it comes to harassing people for woke agendas the cops will threaten or arrest average citizens over a complaint about things said but they will not do the same when the average person makes a complaint about one of the myriad protected groups. Complaints only go one way and certain people are allowed to be offended while others are protected by the police.
      As stated in the video the police are now overly sourced from universities and minority backgrounds which means they less and less represent the average Briton. The stab proof vests are needed thanks to the aforementioned multi-culturalism and overall lack of public decency.

    • @savagegtalks5912
      @savagegtalks5912 Рік тому +1

      you did what you where told all your life, not what you needed to do to preserve what your country had... good male, failed man.
      just like my grandpa... said our village would never get any infrastructure in his lifetime. I fixed it all up to modern standards in a ways he said was impossible. He still alive to be grumpy about what's in place today... the only thing left he complain about is the uncontrolled immigration, I might go ahead and fix that soon as well.

    • @Foxyexrn
      @Foxyexrn Рік тому +9

      Same with the NHS sadly....

  • @MojiWord
    @MojiWord Рік тому +78

    I remember the 1st time I was in England 🇬🇧 in 1973 (edited:1979) and last time I was there in 2011, I just couldn't believe the change in policing there...It's absolutely sad to see!!!

  • @ljdasilva3139
    @ljdasilva3139 Рік тому +135

    It's not the 'decline' of policing in the UK - it's a complete 'collapse' - They have stopped fighting crime and have become the 'Thought Police', concerned only with complaint about 'hurt feelings' and 'wrong think' - It's a cruel world.

    • @robertthomas3777
      @robertthomas3777 Рік тому +7

      Here to.🇦🇺🦘👍

    • @bryanlatimer-davies1222
      @bryanlatimer-davies1222 Рік тому +6

      They reached unparalleled heights arresting anyone during the lockdowns

    • @Armed-Forever
      @Armed-Forever Рік тому

      They never did fight crime effectively,
      go back crime stats from the past in the 90s, way higher than it is now

    • @tayachting6345
      @tayachting6345 Рік тому +1

      @@bryanlatimer-davies1222 Very well said.

    • @tayachting6345
      @tayachting6345 Рік тому +1

      Oh, you said it well, mate. Spot on! My thoughts exaclty.

  • @Treker-yv7nz
    @Treker-yv7nz Рік тому +56

    The Police do a great job of protecting criminals from harm or injury they need protection in order to carry on with affecting innocent people’s lives

  • @johnwoodward1873
    @johnwoodward1873 Рік тому +37

    Well said. The lunatics are running the asylum!

  • @simonfranklin7659
    @simonfranklin7659 Рік тому +139

    The disgust, distrust and hatred for the police is far larger than I thought I would ever see. Thought policing and collecting revenue from motorists is all you can expect nowadays.

    • @paul66990
      @paul66990 Рік тому

      No mention of Couzens and Carrick.

  • @masoodahmed2041
    @masoodahmed2041 Рік тому +34

    She speaks a lot of sense.

  • @Rekaert
    @Rekaert Рік тому +122

    The police of today are a very different entity than when I was a child.
    Today, we see guys on motorcycles, no helmet, balaclava, just wheeling down the street, weaving in and out of traffic, and the police do nothing. The argument goes, if they pursue them, they might fall off and hurt themselves because of the lack of a helmet.
    They are frequently reported as just not bothering to turn up to burglaries, and when they do, it's only to give a crime number and recommend the owner get better CCTV and alarm systems.
    We watch protestors disrupt traffic, which is illegal, and the police do nothing. When a member of the public tries to remove them, they are arrested.
    When I was a child, those bikers would have been pursued, caught, and dealt with. Burglaries were taken seriously, as the police already knew the local scallywags, and would go and shake their tree. Protestors disrupting traffic would have been hauled off the road and processed at the station.
    I don't know what changed, but the difference is that police used to do their job.

    • @user-John666
      @user-John666 Рік тому +10

      It's the broken window scenario come to fruition. The police no longer care about ordinary law abiding people, that's simply the truth. Well I'm sure some do and find it frustrating as we do but it's still the truth.

    • @christianamor8828
      @christianamor8828 Рік тому

      And that the west was not yet communist.

    • @TheJarric
      @TheJarric Рік тому

      too meny women in force edjucated woke ones are higer ups and are more concerned about criminal than vic and lower ranked women are fysicly in capable to lay down law so focus on twitter feuds

    • @francisebbecke2727
      @francisebbecke2727 Рік тому +2

      Guys on motorcycles weaving in and out of traffic while police do nothing. Are you sure you are not talking about the United States? My wife and I were on an overnight out of town trip about 80 miles from where we live and we saw this repeatedly.

    • @89jmills
      @89jmills Рік тому +3

      @@francisebbecke2727 It could happen in both countries Francis.

  • @mabelheinzle2275
    @mabelheinzle2275 Рік тому +29

    Wise woman

  • @chrisanka1838
    @chrisanka1838 Рік тому +33

    That's probably the best assessment about the state of Policing and society that I've heard summed up in 6 minutes.

  • @Stephanie-lg1cm
    @Stephanie-lg1cm Рік тому +193

    I believe the role of the police changed once we adopted ‘care in the community’ and encouraged mentally unwell people to live (miserably) in unsupported conditions because there was insufficient infrastructure in place, care of these people fell to the police service, who were totally unprepared and untrained. I was a mental health nurse for 47 years and witness this transition and my daughter and her partner are police officers. The majority of the work that the police deal with is mental health and social care issues. My daughter says that the public essentially police themselves, which is ok in a society which has morals, unfortunately we don’t have morals or shame or social conscience anymore.

    • @jona826
      @jona826 Рік тому +9

      Didn't the Human Rights Act 1998 require a change to the oath sworn by police officers, such that they must uphold human rights? Could it be that this is why they refuse to move on protestors like "Just Stop Oil", which leads to public order problems as the right to protest trumps the laws on obstruction?

    • @gordonadamson5854
      @gordonadamson5854 Рік тому

      Care in the community was a word made up by the government so they could shut down the hospitals where these people needed help so the government could save money if you believe that

    • @Harassed247
      @Harassed247 Рік тому +8

      Both these comments I can 100% agree with.

    • @ministeroffice9251
      @ministeroffice9251 Рік тому +6

      ​@@jona826 don't ones rights end when they intentionally encroach on other's?

    • @ivancho5854
      @ivancho5854 Рік тому +11

      I totally agree with the first two comments. At the same time we have had a huge increase in immigration from countries which have radically different social norms and extremely harsh police and legal systems (if and when they function at all). The a small segment of the immigrants then view our system as a joke and do whatever they please.
      A recipe for disaster.
      All the best.

  • @MrMjp58
    @MrMjp58 Рік тому +85

    What an analysis.
    Melanie gets right to the heart of the matter.
    Universities are not just advanced subject schools; they create a mindset based on fey Bloomsbury principles: liberalism gone mad, relativism above reality and disdain for both upper and working classes.
    A blurred way of life.

    • @TheJarric
      @TheJarric Рік тому

      woke dont despise higher classes they work for em

    • @axeman2638
      @axeman2638 Рік тому +1

      no she doesn't, she's there to make sure nobody talks about the real reasons for the prolbems.

    • @JesseP.Watson
      @JesseP.Watson Рік тому +5

      See Yuri Bezmenov - demoralisation has another meaning, one far more worrying.

    • @axeman2638
      @axeman2638 Рік тому +1

      "Melanie gets right to the heart of the matter. " oh lol, and you actually believe that?
      hilarious

    • @TheJarric
      @TheJarric Рік тому +2

      @@axeman2638 explain youre disagreement

  • @paddyfrancis1328
    @paddyfrancis1328 Рік тому +30

    Melanie Philips has long been one of the sharpest minds in UK journalism.

  • @R-bobo
    @R-bobo Рік тому +54

    It will take another lifetime to regain the respect the police have lost from the normal British public

    • @VOLightPortal
      @VOLightPortal Рік тому +4

      It might take another 1500 years, especially if the decline of society becomes too great (like what we saw with the Roman empire). Strong social mores can once again emerge through the ashes of chaos - of collapse and decay given enough time. But first we must witness a truly barbarous era of humanity, with the population descending into a feral state, living wild like ravenous wolves, and causing untold devastation to the works and achievements of their ancestors. Once all good things have burnt to a cinder, once the last modern building in Britain has collapsed to rubble, once we are all living no better than people wearing rags of the Dark Ages, only then may we start again anew.

    • @wakeupuk3860
      @wakeupuk3860 Рік тому +2

      @@VOLightPortal For a moment I thought this was one of my old comments I had forgotten about and sometimes come across, some years later. It looks like, as I am, you study and know your history because I often cite the rise and fall of the Roman Empire in that we may not be bloodthirsty citizens watching gladiators hack at each other but when you look at our films and sports i.e. MMA we are not far off the same. Your point about descending into a feral state we are 'certainly' seeing every year as the days of law and order totally go and as is happening now good citizens are becoming prey to those who in our history who have always existed and will always be. Sad but true !!

    • @tayachting6345
      @tayachting6345 Рік тому +1

      Darling, I'll be surprised if we have another four years left for this nation!

  • @rodsimmons9337
    @rodsimmons9337 Рік тому +19

    No normative boundaries... is the definition of multiculturalism.

  • @milesbrown8016
    @milesbrown8016 Рік тому +33

    Well said. I doubt this can ever be reversed. The country is ultimately doomed.

    • @chrisedward7575
      @chrisedward7575 Рік тому

      Third world trash insures it. As Obama said, fundamental change is necessary.

    • @tayachting6345
      @tayachting6345 Рік тому

      I said in a previous post above that I will be surprised if the nation as we now know it even has four years left. The recent TikTok crimes and the distrust in policing and government in its entirety since Covid (Convid) have really crippled this country. Lawlessness is rampant and education is almost corrupt as the police and government. It's all going to crumble. It has to.

  • @JavaAndroid
    @JavaAndroid Рік тому +21

    Not all, but many, with the rest keeping quiet: 1) They knelt to criminals 2) They pranced about in pink and rainbow colours, 3) they recruited based on sexuality and colour alone.
    That, was the END of proper policing.

  • @michaelk6908
    @michaelk6908 Рік тому +41

    Melanie Phillips talks sense.

  • @colinlawless5654
    @colinlawless5654 Рік тому +21

    The police force in this country is appalling such a low standard of characters employed. There is too much box ticking going on.

    • @Armed-Forever
      @Armed-Forever Рік тому +1

      you're missing the bigger picture like most reactionary clowns

  • @philliphickox4023
    @philliphickox4023 Рік тому +51

    It is interesting about "boundaries" that it can also be equated with being "oppressed", yet our societies would not have progressed and developed to the extent that they have without "boundaries". Limits especially on the destructive parts of human behaviour.

    • @LabRat6619
      @LabRat6619 Рік тому +2

      I would agree.

    • @ministeroffice9251
      @ministeroffice9251 Рік тому

      'By causing severall good Subjects being Protestants to be disarmed at the same time when Papists were both Armed and Imployed contrary to Law.'
      Remember when general duties officers did not, nor need to carry firearms and states could not raise armed forces or standing armies in times of peace?

    • @philliphickox4023
      @philliphickox4023 Рік тому +1

      @@ministeroffice9251and your point is?
      Having boundaries goes much further than being able to use lethal force. We set boundaries in relationships, with children, with friends. From what I recall the Police in Britain in the past were not armed and compare that to America where the Police are armed.

    • @damo5701
      @damo5701 Рік тому

      No boundaries and no borders.

    • @philliphickox4023
      @philliphickox4023 Рік тому

      @@damo5701 and nothing to control or limit human behaviour

  • @dry5555
    @dry5555 Рік тому +18

    She nailed it.

  • @davidegral7152
    @davidegral7152 Рік тому +10

    Spot on

  • @charlesscottkelly
    @charlesscottkelly Рік тому +10

    A extra 600,000 people coming in every year with no increase in any services.

  • @simonquigley9054
    @simonquigley9054 Рік тому +51

    Once Blair switched the title Police Force to Police Service, then it all went down hill.

    • @hittitecharioteer
      @hittitecharioteer Рік тому +8

      He was the one that promoted Common Porpoise into the workings of all public services and primarily the police services.

    • @TaylorMartin-fq7pw
      @TaylorMartin-fq7pw Рік тому

      @@hittitecharioteer Yes! He certainly was! That Blair creature is responsible for an awful lot of what we see materializing today. The legislations they push through doesn't bear fruit until a good 10 - 20 years after it has been passed. A lot of people fail to realize this, instead they blame the current government of the day. Though this "Conservative" party have been an absolute disaster for the UK. I detest them.

    • @markadams738
      @markadams738 Рік тому +6

      The constables oath was changed in 2002 I believe. Plod these days seems to be scruffy ( PSNI excluded) slobs. Lack of leadership is one of the problems.

    • @StopTheCensorship234
      @StopTheCensorship234 Рік тому

      No he's correct it is a civil service not a armed force! The problem is they think they are a woke army on our streets

    • @Armed-Forever
      @Armed-Forever Рік тому

      @@markadams738 but crime was higher per capita in the 90s, cops are just bad at their job globally lol

  • @evolassunglasses4673
    @evolassunglasses4673 Рік тому +13

    The decline in happening across the West/ Global American Empire.

  • @pmarsh3700
    @pmarsh3700 Рік тому +54

    As a retired operational police Sergeant, I believe the police service should be: 1. A national force with several policing areas set up across the country i.e. the SW, SE, NE identified and led by a Chief Constable who are accountable to the senior Chief Constable of the UK. Note, the position of Police and Crime Commissionaires to be removed .2. Police recruitment more stringent in terms of the application process and assessments. 3. Police training establishments re- introduced for new recruits, with a programme including not only the theory of the law and procedures, but emphasise on practical policing skills, discipline and policing standards. 4. Leadership training college for middle and senior management set up on similar lines to the armed forces i.e. Sandhurst, Cranwell and Dartmouth. 5. Create Police Reservists who get paid a yearly bounty, similar to military reservist. Again selection and training to be reviewed with the emphasis on not only learning law and procedures, but on policing standards and discipline. Leadership is the key, and the ideas that I have mentioned above would improve the way we police in the UK.

    • @emlynjay8633
      @emlynjay8633 Рік тому +5

      Very sound: if only...

    • @pmarsh3700
      @pmarsh3700 Рік тому +5

      @@emlynjay8633 The trouble is it is too political for whoever is in power to change things.

    • @rocky76dude7
      @rocky76dude7 Рік тому

      It will get more woke to save it from n toxic masculinity as it hires thousands of redundant soldiers in a couple of years to be armed and work in riot police for coming social unrest

    • @jujutrini8412
      @jujutrini8412 Рік тому

      What is the point of police reservists?

    • @pmarsh3700
      @pmarsh3700 Рік тому +1

      @@jujutrini8412 To support the regular police officer, especially in public events and weekends when public order incidents occur.

  • @snowflakemelter1172
    @snowflakemelter1172 Рік тому +45

    I called the police to report a crime a month ago and i was detained in cuffs for over an hour in a total farce where the police tried to invent potential crimes , including having a fake ID, being escaped from prison and all kinds of mad rubbish, they coulnt be reasoned with and were devoid of any common sense, like robots, also one was deliberately trying to antagonise me , staring at me aggressively trying to get a reaction and an arrest. I am a veteran and their little childish games didnt bully me, i have nothing but contempt for them now. Stay away away from these idiots is my advice.

    • @sandrafinbar
      @sandrafinbar Рік тому +1

      That's astonishing.

    • @Genghis-Khan121
      @Genghis-Khan121 Рік тому +1

      Nah it’s becoming normal

    • @daffyduk77
      @daffyduk77 Рік тому

      For many, still, it's all about power being a corrupting thing. They prefer to turn up mob-handed & overwhelm even little old ladies with absurd numbers, handcuffing behind back etc "because they can" and then youths go rioting in Cardiff. The routine abuse of police's force-capabilities to ensure zero risk of having to do real policing "seems" to have gotten worse, in spite of bodycams etc. At least Cressida "No one likes us, we don't care" has gone 🙂probably on some inflated payout ?

    • @johnnunn8688
      @johnnunn8688 Рік тому +3

      Could you please expand on your story, it’s a little confusing. Ta.

    • @ianking8315
      @ianking8315 5 місяців тому

      couldn't agree more.

  • @carolineoates5964
    @carolineoates5964 Рік тому +5

    Thank you dear Melanie for speaking up for the street preachers. There face daily persecution.
    And the police arrest them and not the perpetrators. Blessings 😊♥️🙏

  • @geraldstiling3735
    @geraldstiling3735 Рік тому +27

    As a recipient of negative policing, I agree in part . I would say though that the criminal justice system in it's entirety is corrupt and incompetent 🤦🤷🙅

  • @olanderdecastro52
    @olanderdecastro52 Рік тому +35

    That image of the London Bobbie with a dark, serious uniform, and helmet was a worldwide symbol of law and order. It was an especially important model for those of us in the United States are used to be an ultimate respect for police officers in England, and by extension around the western world. There was integrity and strength and character in the English policeman. It is all faded away, now lost in the shuffle of political correctness, wokeness and the stifling culture of the left.

    • @Armed-Forever
      @Armed-Forever Рік тому

      You're a fool, check crime stats in the 90s, higher than it is now per capita, muh woke is an issue but don't put it down to this

    • @daffyduk77
      @daffyduk77 Рік тому

      @Denise Bond In that Golden Age when the law was more completely what the rozzer decided on the spot ... the best you could hope for was he lived in your local small town or village. So he wouldn't abuse it or his kids might get a kicking at the local school. And a brick through their cheap-rent house window.

    • @johnnunn8688
      @johnnunn8688 Рік тому

      @Denise Bond, they do still recruit from veterans; from where did you get that idea?

    • @colinnewmarch1106
      @colinnewmarch1106 Рік тому

      When I joined in 1971 in the West end ,we walked ,11 walking beats ,we knew everyone and were a visible presence in the STREET, where the job gets done

    • @olanderdecastro52
      @olanderdecastro52 Рік тому

      @@colinnewmarch1106 Your service is much appreciated officer!

  • @richardteale3217
    @richardteale3217 Рік тому +2

    Well said Melanie , if only we could find a way to reverse it .

  • @johnsabini2330
    @johnsabini2330 Рік тому +11

    Never serviced in the police but as a 74 year old have seen the downward spiral of respect from Joe Public, the cause appears to be political wokeness from the senior ranks. Had 17 years in the army you had mutual respect up and down the rank structure, vital for any uniformed force, hope the police can regain this.

  • @VOLightPortal
    @VOLightPortal Рік тому +14

    This is the most well clarified, terrifying insight into what has happened that I have heard to date. Thank you. It is horrifying but this is the new reality we must come to terms with in Britain today.

    • @christinedumonceau5057
      @christinedumonceau5057 Рік тому +1

      In Britain. It's been worse in France since... For ever... Although we have had our ups and downs, who collaborated with the invading Germans during WW2? Yes the police. They are well known pimps, drug dealers and traffickers, wife batterers. Chose to keep quiet knowing the dishonesty of individual politicians or entire parties, they take the tax payers money alright but refuse to stand by the taxpayer in time of oppression and tyranny and stick to France 's "droit de l'homme" our legal formal lawful constitution. People ignore them now totally.
      Since Blair I ceased to see police on the beat in Scotland, they seem to go like their french counterparts ill informed, Ill informed and poorly educated, my nephew in France now a Gendarme in Paris is a racist, bigot, narrow minded arrogant lad of 29, he was multi lingual till he joined the police, he has a degree in management and strategic affairs! Like friends in Scotland who are in police he has no interests outside the job, no understanding of politics and national affairs, cannot see links in history and today's world.

  • @Guy-Lewis
    @Guy-Lewis Рік тому +28

    Tyranny of whatever self-designated minority position --- not referring here to the traditional understanding of "minority", but to the minority attitudes of self-righteous bullies. Unfortunately, "normative" has become what the noisiest "victims" declare it to be ----- and woe betide anyone who insists on facts, rationality, merit, fairness, and earned respect. The bar has been dropped on toes.

    • @LabRat6619
      @LabRat6619 Рік тому +2

      It's a case of the tail wagging the dog.

    • @extremeways2930
      @extremeways2930 Рік тому

      And the complaints process panders to the minority at

    • @extremeways2930
      @extremeways2930 Рік тому

      And the complaint’s process at every level completely panders to the minority.

    • @Spiderwebsider
      @Spiderwebsider Рік тому

      As Dirty Harry says in one of those 1970s movies, “by ‘minorities’ you mean ‘the hoods’”.

    • @Guy-Lewis
      @Guy-Lewis Рік тому

      @@extremeways2930 It's like the Chinese Cultural "Devolution" visited upon formerly rational societies.

  • @valjadsplodgny4455
    @valjadsplodgny4455 Рік тому +1

    Brilliant summary, facilitated by a senior interviewer who knows when to let an intelligent observer speak freely.

  • @dianamartin7180
    @dianamartin7180 Рік тому +2

    Brilliantly described Melanie. That’s exactly what has happened.

  • @timwingham8952
    @timwingham8952 Рік тому +18

    I watched a programne about the police service. A young keen policeman was interviewed, and he said he'd joined to "catch villains". That summed up the problem for me, because the first and prime roll of "policing" (as in the verb to "police") is to control and maintain order. At community level that ethos has evaporated. The visible presence of officers to control and maintain order is a thing of the past. Putting two officers together in a car as a visible presence doesn't work because, A; they will chat to each other, not observe the neighbourhood, and B; their mindset is altered to being a "response" resource, i.e. using blue lights and sirens to catch criminals in the act. Policing needs to return to the idea of visibly monitoring an area, getting to know it, and thus preventing crime. But I suspect that is now merely a pipe dream. As a parting shot, I do not believe CCTV is a adequate replacement for visible "policing".

    • @davidheyes4771
      @davidheyes4771 Рік тому +2

      Nicely put, I remember our policemen in my village growing up, they were actually decent bobbies who interacted with members of the public in a decent way, sadly now this is clearly not the case with their over inflated egos etc, it's a shame for the good ones out there as they are sadly tarred with the same brush.👍

    • @Armed-Forever
      @Armed-Forever Рік тому

      Main problem with policing is poor tactics, high visibility does work, but they just drive spend all day aimlessly, you have to park up and be stationary all over the city, that way would be criminals are deterred because they know there's cops around every corner

    • @reekinronald6776
      @reekinronald6776 Рік тому

      I don't think the top wants order. With disorder, comes more laws and less Freedom in the name of safety and societal stability. I've been scratching my head wondering why the Establishment are actively promoting chaos on the streets (see George Floyd summer of riots). It only makes sense if they want strife, they want the "extreme right" as the bogey man to control "disinformation" and shutdown bank accounts.

    • @2639263926392639
      @2639263926392639 Рік тому

      No but cctv is excellent at high volume production of fines for 'offenders' who can be readily identified... like ordinary Joe who bought his own car, hes easy to control, and send fines to.

    • @johnnunn8688
      @johnnunn8688 Рік тому

      ‘Control and maintain order’ = ‘catching villains’. You mad?

  • @thehumancanary131
    @thehumancanary131 Рік тому +3

    In my town someone broke into the police station and stole all the toilets!! A police spokesperson said "we have absolutely nothing to go on!"

  • @timsmith1125
    @timsmith1125 Рік тому +8

    Much of what she identified has been happening across the globe. Here in the USA, the last three years have seen conditions reach crisis levels in major cities. Although some pockets of sanity exist, it seems that it’s only a matter of when - not if - the insanity and dysfunction engulfs the entire country. 😱

  • @RseRebel
    @RseRebel Рік тому +9

    While traveling from London transportation or following my usual route,
    Multiple times i was tried to be assaulted unprovoked by unruly people and majority times they were rowdy black African descent people.
    Despite MET statistics having data of high crime rates of people from same background,
    Many times police seems either afraid to take actions, too slow or too incompetent.
    And in the other cases instead of removing stop oil loonies from road, police stupidly watch the spectacle and don't remove them immediately from the middle of the road.
    It's seriously a sad state of policing in London.

    • @makeasylumsgreatagain864
      @makeasylumsgreatagain864 Рік тому

      They've become so scared of being accused of being racist,that they the usual suspects get away with anything

  • @MM-yi9zn
    @MM-yi9zn Рік тому +1

    Melanie has an extraordinary intellect & an amazing grasp of social & political trends. Best to listen for all our benefits!

  • @terryo5672
    @terryo5672 Рік тому +3

    Well said.

  • @nigelmaloney2337
    @nigelmaloney2337 Рік тому +3

    Very well said a true word

  • @mythgreatbritain5634
    @mythgreatbritain5634 Рік тому +4

    What police? I haven't seen a copper on the ground in my area for god knows how long, and my council tax has gone up to pay for them !!

  • @paulcowell7588
    @paulcowell7588 Рік тому +14

    Ive always admired melanie Phillips she is the female equivalent of Jordan Peterson..all you get is pure sense and rationality.

    • @grantchanin2878
      @grantchanin2878 Рік тому

      Hi Paul. I agree.

    • @Armed-Forever
      @Armed-Forever Рік тому

      You must be a simpleton then,,, v crime was higher per capita in the 90s, explanation needed

  • @francesblabey3055
    @francesblabey3055 Рік тому +2

    Totally agree with All of what you've said.

  • @Hitman-ds1ei
    @Hitman-ds1ei Рік тому +8

    Sounds like she talking about Australia

    • @wyattfamily8997
      @wyattfamily8997 Рік тому

      @@christopherludlam1602 So true, absolutely DISGUSTING.

    • @Harassed247
      @Harassed247 Рік тому

      We in the UK saw what was going on in Australia.. I was thankful that my son and his wife came home just days before lock down. It was criminal what they did to their citizens.

  • @lorenzbroll101
    @lorenzbroll101 Рік тому +5

    Its purposeful. Its known as 'Anarcho - Tyranny'.

  • @pitmonk
    @pitmonk Рік тому +2

    Melanie Phillips for Prime Minister

  • @brettstone6885
    @brettstone6885 Рік тому +2

    What a smart women. Ive spent 23 years in the NSW Police and what she is saying has been happening here. Not to the British extent, but we will get there.

  • @russellbolas3828
    @russellbolas3828 Рік тому +2

    Somebody who is speaking the truth for once such-and-such a breath of fresh air respect to this lady what a woman

  • @benjaminmee3751
    @benjaminmee3751 Рік тому +10

    This is why I tell people to take care of things themselves. The police are not going to come, and if they do, you’ll be given a crime number and you’ll never hear anything again. Deal with it in the moment and you’ll never have an issue.

    • @Spiderwebsider
      @Spiderwebsider Рік тому +2

      The only issue you will have is when the police turn up to arrest you for infringing the offender’s rights.

    • @benjaminmee3751
      @benjaminmee3751 Рік тому

      @@Spiderwebsider dont worry about it. They’ll only show up if you post online.

  • @robertjenkins4886
    @robertjenkins4886 Рік тому

    Absolutely spot on.

  • @geraldarcuri9307
    @geraldarcuri9307 Рік тому

    Melanie Phillips: acute social observer and truth teller. A seriously profound thinker and commentator.

  • @eleveneleven572
    @eleveneleven572 Рік тому +9

    If you express opinions you are accused of causing "Harassment, alarm or distress"...something police trot out to shut people up, arrest them, intimidate. So many videos on UA-cam where they falsely do this.
    Only this morning I came across this. ua-cam.com/video/vtlMs02qD9s/v-deo.html

    • @peterreed3104
      @peterreed3104 Рік тому +1

      watched Vidio and saw some local Karen Butting in and causing Trouble and calling the police to back them up, and getting Nothing but a crowd of people watching Him Preach the Gospel !?

  • @annhenry1806
    @annhenry1806 Рік тому +1

    Melanie phillips is spot on .

  • @markspurgeon8084
    @markspurgeon8084 Рік тому +1

    Pretty accurate assessment I’d say having served in the Met for 30 years.

  • @rob6346
    @rob6346 Рік тому

    Wonderfully eloquent

  • @bloodymarvellous1531
    @bloodymarvellous1531 Рік тому

    Absolutely spot on

  • @sbalmer132
    @sbalmer132 Рік тому

    Brilliant Melanie Phillips

  • @sugarbertie1143
    @sugarbertie1143 Рік тому

    Melanie is always spot on
    .shes a voice to listen to. A very educated and based lady with a wide knowledge of the truth.

  • @Tom-qp6oh
    @Tom-qp6oh Рік тому +3

    Sounds like Police in U.S. the last 3 years.

  • @grumpyoldman8661
    @grumpyoldman8661 Рік тому +1

    Melanie Phillips always has interesting things to say.

  • @crouchingwombathiddenquoll5641

    Australian police TASER 95 year old dementia patient in her room at an aged care facility. The 43 kg lady fell off her walking fram and fractured her skull, passing away from her injuries 3 days later. She had a steak knife from the dining room, she used it to process apples better than her dentures.

    • @davidmccann9811
      @davidmccann9811 Рік тому +1

      In Britain 5 officers turn up to confiscate black faced dolls from a middle aged woman because a member of the public was offended. They bagged them all up and took them away, only to return them the next day when they found out owning them was not a crime. 😂😂

  • @tango6nf477
    @tango6nf477 Рік тому +1

    I am a retired Officer who was appointed in the 70's, which might as well be a hundred years ago in terms of how Policing has changed. I go back to the days of walking the beat, but I am convinced that the idea that this somehow defeated crime was a myth, it simply did not, it was a feel good pill.
    Policing has changed massively but then so has society, the kinds of demands on Police now is many times more than in my day, and the resources are simply not there.
    The critically important leadership ranks of Sergeant and Inspector who should be setting examples, teaching, nurturing and leading by example find this hard to do because they're glued to a computer reviewing crime reports and other documentation, the bureaucracy is out of control. In my day for example the Sergeant attended incidents with us, took charge, led and ensured things were done correctly and if not make sure it was. Basics, simple and so important. I could go on for ages but suffice it to say the problems in Policing today can be traced back to the loss of those "basics".
    Something I was taught when I first joined was the definition of a Constable and it has wedged itself in my memory since "A Constable is a Citizen, locally appointed, having powers under the Crown for the protection of life and property, the prevention and detection of crime, the maintenance of order, and the prosecution of offenders against the peace". Simple isn't it?

  • @pennypothoneypot634mimmahappun

    This is so true and helpful analysis.

  • @infiniteloopcounter9444
    @infiniteloopcounter9444 Рік тому +3

    Some time ago there was a long-standing TV show called The Bill. Towards the end it left policing behind and focussed on relationships and other things. Probably this reflected the actual police force and who were being targeted for recruitment.

  • @chrisstoddart4342
    @chrisstoddart4342 Рік тому +1

    Completely correct.

  • @vinaynk
    @vinaynk Рік тому

    Not a bit of introspection. Amazing.
    You are finally getting what you spread around the world in the last century.

  • @johnnykilv
    @johnnykilv Рік тому +1

    I came off Armed Response in 2010 and went on Neighbourhood Policing. They gave me a pushbike and told me “Old style Policing is what the Public Want”. I gave them that and got 10 complaints in the first few months. Every one was upheld against me. My female Sergeant told me to be nicer. I didn’t change my approach and I reduced anti social behaviour throughout the three areas of my patch. The worst thing ever was allowing people to make complaints when they don’t get their own way. People don’t follow rules, boundaries and limitations anymore. They think they can do whatever they want and there will be no comeback. Well that didn’t work for them on my,patch! If they stepped over the line, they copped a fine or worse. And guess what. Mr and Mrs Normal loved it.

  • @Folk_var
    @Folk_var Рік тому +1

    Common Purpose behind much of this.

  • @megazero952
    @megazero952 Рік тому +1

    thanks for this

  • @xusmico187
    @xusmico187 Рік тому

    wow... she is spot on

  • @remaincalm2
    @remaincalm2 Рік тому +1

    Police forces became more politicised when the PCC role was created. PCCs have an unhealthy amount of power in a force and represent a political party. Being a political role, they implement modern political thinking into the police force, hence there was absolutely no chance that forces could escape the rot of identity politics and chasing left-wing, liberal ideologies.
    Sir Robert Peel's principles of policing have been betrayed in the last decade. Policing by consent of the public is crucial, but my favourite principle is: "To maintain at all times a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and that the public are the police, the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence."

  • @pauljermyn5909
    @pauljermyn5909 Рік тому

    Agree with everything this lady said.

  • @NapoleonBonapartepdrquay
    @NapoleonBonapartepdrquay Рік тому +1

    The solution is to throw money at these problems.

  • @LiffeyKing
    @LiffeyKing Рік тому +1

    When they started calling it a 'service' that was when it all started going downhill.
    Today in Britain everything is policed except crime!

  • @KevinMcAney
    @KevinMcAney Рік тому

    Very interesting- great points about normative behaviour and boundaries

  • @brianeke2586
    @brianeke2586 Рік тому

    As a retired police officer who served for over 30 years from 1972 I full agree with this wise woman.

  • @pmacc3557
    @pmacc3557 Рік тому

    This is a brilliant lady. I was trying to think of her name a few days ago as she seems to have been silenced on this wonderful platform

  • @briandoherty2728
    @briandoherty2728 Рік тому +4

    There are many reasons that contribute to why the police are held with such contempt and it mostly comes down to recruitment and training. Recruitment has been hi jacked by diversity. Entrance standards have been slashed to accommodate people of lower educational standards. The training is skewered towards today's woke agenda and crazy tolerance and promotion of fringe lifestyles to the exclusion of Policing by enforcing the LAW as it exists. ONE big example is the current policing of demonstrations ------- the police have totally coped out of all their responsibilities for no reason - they have all the powers to deal with the protesters but REFUSE to use them WHY ?? SO the answer is the police overall have gone crazy woke and are loving it - after all because of the recruiting standard being lowered many are of the same crazy social opinion and are allowed to exercise those standards instead of doing the job -- no one like the Home Secretary holds them in contempt .................... The police have seriously lost their way and with the senior officers of to day and cowardly Home Secretary's they will never change -- they have become used and comfortable with their new NON POLICING role and have no embarrassment or consequences for their FAILURE OF PROVIDING BASIC POLICING.

  • @marcoxlong2655
    @marcoxlong2655 Рік тому +14

    Someone needs to put a stop to the wearing & desecrating of the Union Jack Flag on their uniforms...We as taxpayers don't pay them to DESECRATE the flag it is disgusting

  • @MrMandelsohn
    @MrMandelsohn Рік тому +1

    Common Purpose and moral relativism have destroyed common sense policing.

  • @davidwilliams9504
    @davidwilliams9504 Рік тому

    So very true

  • @sidsod1616
    @sidsod1616 Рік тому +3

    Do the powers that be actually realise the lack of confidence ,respect and the outright contempt the public currently have for the police. They are getting involved in every current politically correct bandwagon except actual police work.

  • @hugh-johnfleming289
    @hugh-johnfleming289 Рік тому

    All security services have been politicized. They serve government and not the citizen.
    I would add; what a Grand Lady. She is contemporary elegance...

  • @catweasle5737
    @catweasle5737 Рік тому +1

    Amazing. She gave a good speech about the decline of policing without using the word "woke" I didn't think that would be possible.

  • @louistan7560
    @louistan7560 Рік тому +1

    Start with a corrupt British bureaucracy. And you can forget about the British Police.

  • @timbow1833
    @timbow1833 Рік тому +1

    it all boils down to 'anti-racism' and that stuff

  • @1MogJon
    @1MogJon Рік тому

    The 'long march through the institutions' !!!!!

  • @MrMandelsohn
    @MrMandelsohn Рік тому +1

    Mel is a beacon of common sense

  • @SkotiM
    @SkotiM Рік тому +2

    Different cultures have different values. How can we have normative values whilst we are having multiculturalism forced upon us.
    I wonder how much responsibility the Royal College of Policing bears as they are teaching a dogma of multiculturalism.

  • @wreyamon4472
    @wreyamon4472 Рік тому +3

    The current british police should learn from the movie RRR how strict the british police used to be about 80 years ago.

  • @davidweaver9373
    @davidweaver9373 Рік тому +2

    the police service of britain started its decline when it stopped promotion through the ranks and replaced it with hiring gradates straight from university into senior positions and as we have seen the universities have gone woke and its now infected all the public services

  • @fredfredrickson5436
    @fredfredrickson5436 Рік тому +1

    When will the nation ever outgrow these people.

  • @hunterluxton5976
    @hunterluxton5976 Рік тому +1

    Here insights are spot on. She echoes the view of Sir Roger Scrouton who makes a similar point about the absence of normative values lneading to a kind of accepted chaos.if you wish to explore this point I suggest you was Scrouton talking to the Common Sense Society.

  • @CASPB
    @CASPB Рік тому +3

    She needs funding and a good legal team to take this on.