Fords Little Bronco Secret Almost Nobody Knows About: This Is The BEST One To Buy!
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Sorry Tommy I won't be getting one - 3 within 200 miles of where I live $67,000 to $76,000 - dealers want to rip everyone off - I really hope some of the crooks go out of business.
One of the local dealers here in Vegas had a Bronco Raptor on the lot for $125k a few months back.
They also had a 2 door black diamond with the sasquatch package for 75k. Absolutely ridiculous what they're pulling.
@@HondaWired what auto manufacturers are adopting this model? Certainly not Ford, Chevy, Jeep/Chrysler/Ram…
I’ve already seen the “Market Adjustment “fall from $10,000 to $3-5,000. This summer we will be under MSRP, patience…
@@HondaWired from my understanding, a large part of why most manufacturers use independent dealers is due to congressional mandates.
@@2Greenlid maybe in some areas. Mavericks here are still at least $5k over. Broncos seem to all be around $10k, unless it's one of the high end models. That said, you may be right as I've suddenly started seeing a LOT of broncos on the road in the last couple months. Of course, you can't hardly find a new Ranger on a lot.
So much information and you did the entire video in one take. Respect.
I love my Everglades. It has 0 problems handling 30” of snow. I was worried about getting the 2.3, but I am more than impressed with it both off roading and passing another vehicle on the highway
I had a Black Diamond and found an Everglades about 5 hours away from me for 57k and I jumped on it immediately. So far, I’m freaking loving it!
I picked up my 2024 Everglades today! I love the thing! So fun to drive!
Loving my Big Bend 2.3l - I came from a 6.2l Raptor that just wasn't made for the New Hampshire trails. Miss it but loving the Bronco.
One of the other unique features of the Everglades is the 12” screen. It’s basically a black diamond mid package but gets signature lighting and the bigger screen. High package screen minus the 360* cameras. The winch would block the front camera anyway.
I bought a Bronco with the 2.3l. The manual transmission is what I really wanted and the 2.3l is a great motor so far, no regrets!
That proven Gen2 TGDI powertrain is excellent. Run good full synthetic engine oil & Motorcraft filters always . Change @5k mis it will go 200k+ mis easily.
Is your transmission grinding yet? Seems like most of the manuals are having problems. Mine had the problem the day after purchasing it. 😢
@@MrBeautalkz yep, taking it in to the dealer next week. No regrets though.
I ordered my Dad a 2.7.. cause I’m the most bestest son ever😊
Great video I didn’t know about the Everglades edition but now I understand and appreciate what it offers. I think if I get the chance to order a 2024 it’s going to be the Everglades edition! Thanks for the recommendation. I’ll send you the picture when I get it!
Seriously thinking about getting one of these for Mrs JAX. She's a big Bronco fan, and I REALLY like the Everglades edition. It has everything we could want. Thanks for the great content, guys! Hope to get to run into you all one of these days. Take care!
Reason 2.3 only is alternator location. 2.3 has it located high on engine, 2.7 has low mounted alternator. Look at IAG Off Road video about 2.7 alternator problems. This low mount alternator problem was also noted on Truck King's video on the Everglades package
Massively expensive, and as with every bronco it’s totally unattainable…
I agree! Even the base models, which probably don’t exist in reality, are a lot for the average person. They look flipping awesome and I want one bad! Not even for its ability, as I’m not an off-roader, it’s just cool. I’ll just have to wait and see how used prices are down the road, lol.
Jeeps and Bronco’s have become luxury off road vehicles, even status symbols. When an off road vehicle’s cost equals a top end BMW & Mercedes it’s become a luxury vehicle. Buy a used Jeep or Bronco and let someone else absorb that first year depreciation.
@@larrys9879 except in some areas insurance on a BMW or Mercedes is absolutely wild…like in NYC the insurance quotes for German cars was basically 2-3x
@@Dontstressbenchpress A vehicles value and claims experience are major factors that determine insurance cost. The insureds credit rating, age, marital status, location of vehicle, and driving record are also factors.
@@larrys9879 yeah of course but I’m talking for me personally when I was car shopping the quotes for German cars were wild compared to a bronco
I’m extremely fortunate. I’ve had a reservation since day one and as of today my Bronco Everglades is in production.
Awesome recap and analysis of the Everglades.. GO BRONCO!
Nice comparison, Tommy, and appreciate the details. Go Buffs!
It would have been cool to show the breather hose locations on the first edition and Everglades that are under the hood. You’ll be surprised how high the breather hoses are on the non Everglades bronco (by the brake booster)
They show the intakes in the video raptor bronco and non raptor differences.
@@randalsweeting661 They show the intakes but not the breather hoses for the differentials and transmission.
Man... I wish they would have explained this before as good as you have. I looked at the 2.3L and said... Nah. But after hearing about the relocation of even the differential breather... This is so much more appealing. Still love my 2 door, but this is much better than I gave them credit for.
Wildtrak doesn't get the Sway bar disconnect. Only Badlands, First edition (No longer produced) and Raptor have it.
My OBX sway bar disconnect was made by craftsman... It just doesn't reconnect automatically.
@@mpeugeot You probably get more articulation as well
I think the Badlands Sasquatch has it
@@TheBeatenPaths Sasquatch has nothing to do with it. All Badlands have it. Sas or non-Sas
got me a MANUAL Badlands. LOVE IT!
Great video Tommy! I love the effort and thought that went into changing the everglades model. What are your opinions on a Base Sasquatch... from a pure value perspective, the base sasquatch that can be upgraded over time. A 4 door Basesquatch with hard top and wiring kit runs around 45K based on engines and accessories / the Everglades runs around 56K but that includes upgrades like a wash out floor / vinyl seats / mid package / etc {Not a bad deal at all if you plan to keep it stock}. I could have a lot of fun upgrading a bronco with the $11,000 saved. But I'm curious, If you had 56K to spend on a bronco, would you go for the everglades or upgrade/customize a base?
Living in central alaska we like the heated seats AND the heated steering wheels on our jeeps.
I thought about the getting a Everglades but the fact of the smaller engine and non being changeable kill it for me, the V6 in my opinion and experience driving with both engines the V6 feel away better in every aspect, it’s a cool vehicle and definitely gonna be great but I couldn’t sacrifice how the bigger engine feel even tho the Everglades comes loaded
Tommy you are doing awesome content man.
As far as I see it. At this moment, there is none available that sit at MSRP: $56k. The honest price for this as a 4 cylinder: $40k starting price. Also, the small issues people are having? No thanks. Love the car and would love one. Doesn’t seem it’s worth it at this moment in time.
What issues are there?
@@hispanica316 The backorder issues Ford is having. Some people are having back up cameras malfunctioning. Fit and finish issues. Although minimal is certain areas, but I expect more from vehicles ranging in the $65-70k range.
I drove Broncos with both motors. Never gave a second of thought about the performance. I ordered and received my 2.3 Two door Bad Lands, and I saved $1900.
I just went from the Wiltrak to the Bronco Raptor! TBH I wish i had just modded the Wildtrak.
Great video, and I appreciate what Tommy is saying, but it just convinced me that Everglades would not be the trim of choice for me - too many sacrifices in the name of water fording, and too expensive for what it offers.
How does the ratio of the crawler gear in the manual Bronco compare with 1st gear of the automatic transmission? I think that the Everglades with a manual transmission might be one of the best Bronco configurations...
Everglades; My #1 favorite interior. Also, Swaybar disco only FE and Badlands, Raptor, and Heritage Limited.
Thanks, this is exactly what I was wondering-was the 4 strong enough.
Nice work Alex! Very TFL
My '22 BadSquatch, 2.7L MIC, Lux, Tow, was $59, 800 and has the Sta-bar disconnect, heated seats, and adaptive cruise. I didn't do the modular bumper cause I don't like the Ford winch setup and getting an aftermarket bumper. The MGV seats are great and the builtin drains in the floor as well. I just don't see the cost value for the Everglades.
I built one of these online. It's what I would get if I were getting one. If I do get a Bronco it will be a 4-banger because I want a manual. I'm torn between a Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe Trailhawk and the Bronco. My commute will only be 24 miles round trip starting in August so the 25 mile EV range of the 4xe is very appealing. I'd love to to say "screw it" and just get both but I don't have 120k to drop on vehicles.
I got the badlands sas with the 2.3 and honestly the engine has plenty of power. I barely notice a difference when I switch to driving my buddy's 2.7.
Totally agree with you Tommy. If I had the money, that’s the one I would get.
Tommy grew up and continues to look and sounds confident and magnificent and brilliant love you bud as always Amazing job Awesome hairstyle and outfit. Your talent is outstanding
Before I clicked on this video, I was just browsing online a week ago just to see what different trims Ford had for the broncos and golly there's a bunch but the Everglades stood out to me. And dang it cost a pretty penny. Js
I was hoping to get an everglades version one day. guess any hope i had of that is gone now that more people will want one :(
The reason I went for a black diamond 2.3L sasquatch are those exact points you brought up. If only this had been available during the first releases. Hopefully Ford will offer some kind of snorkel kit in the future for us to buy.
I would go with the Black Diamond also. I wish they had better oem rim options. For the money it's a great value if you don't need the extreme off road capabilities. These kind of 'trucks' have incredible resale.
I also have a 2021 Black Diamond 2.3 L 2 Door sasquatch. Extremely happy with it
Snorkels were originally put on off road vehicles to get the intake out of the dust plume from the vehicles you were following, not for water fording. They just happened to work for water fording too.
its also the reason that most have the snorkel intake pointing towards the rear of the vehicle, to prevent as much dust as possible getting into the intake and potentially blocking air filters
When it comes to a 4X4 in today's world I always think about my first. A 1972 K5 Chevy Blazer with locking front hubs and automatic transmission. It did have an AM radio. A strictly utilitarian interior. Cost in 1972 dollars was $4200.00. It looked like an overweight International. The Marines at the Navy base where I was stationed in the northeast wouldn't even stop it. Even when my wife was driving.
I had that very vehicle in orange.
I actually wanted the 2.3 manual base 2 door. If I were to opt for an upper trim it would be the everglades.
Pretty happy with my 2 door BadSquatch Lux!
This Everglades is exactly how I made my base Sasquatch bronco. I purposely wanted the 2.3l because first off 300hp in an off-roader is plenty plus it was reliable being that it had been in the Ranger and Mustang plus if you want more power you can tune and it will still stay reliable. Really wish they had the Everglades at launch would have been the model I bought.
Yup Sasquatch and base model bronco is all you need. I love mine looks better than the more expensive ones.
The wildtrak doesnt offer s sway bar disconnect. And the everglades is a niceee vehicle but the badlands offers soo much more you can get the vinyl floor, manual trans and the 2.3l in the badlands. Add a snorkel and since these broncos are very very modular you can swap the fenders if you really like the square over the round
What's the durability and reliability of the 2.3 as opposed to the 2.7? In other words does one engine have more issues than the other.
I wanted a Bronco, badly. Then I sat down till the feeling went away, and got a Ranger. Much more practical. And by the time the Ranger gets to places I need a Bronco to continue, I'm usually fly-fishing by that time anyway.
I absolutely love my desert sand Everglades. It's the best! I miss my OBX but there is no equal. Even the quality of doors, dash, steering wheel, seats, etc are so much more solid.
Than what? Your OBX? If so how cause it’s all the same unless is a Bronco Raptor.
agree with other commenter. You saying this makes many folks disregard your opinion altogether, to the point of not believing you actually owned both or even one now. Every Bronco owner knows those parts are the same so please don't add false info.
It’s always the oddball vehicles that never were a hot commodity when new …..only years after is when that model becomes super desirable!
I agree , I’m sure the Everglades will be a sought after model in 5 -10 years
I think the 2.3 also has an alternator that sits higher underneath. For a water vehicle that’s important. I think personally that’s the real reason they did 2.3
That is correct. Someone may do a waterproof alternator for the 2.7, conformal coated, but nothing yet that I know of.
2.3 is an Ecoboost
Agreed, I actually thought the title of his vid was to let that out as "ford's little secret", lol.
The 2.3 liter only has direct injection. The 2.7 has direct and port injection. I like it, but would want the 2.7 with port injection to help prevent carbon buildup on the intake valves.
Nope 2.3 for the bronco and ranger is not like the old one on the mustang. It does have both.
@@Dobbs6651 Ford's website states just DI for the 2.3 while mentioning PFDI (Port Fuel/Direct Injection) for the 2.7..
@@ALMX5DP hey your right. I just looked at the parts catalog for fule injection and only the DI injectors show up. Looks like I'll need to do my valves eventually...
@@Dobbs6651 a catch can isnt a bad idea, but shouldnt be too much of a problem if you do regular oil changes with high quality synthetic oil. I think I've seen high mileage DI engines which look like they have some build up on the back of the valves, but many of those werent in for any issues related to that (it was just an observation while the manifold was off). Our Ford 2.0T has the above and is changed at 5k with Mobil 1. So far so good at nearly 90k miles.
@@ALMX5DP Thanks! yeah def need a catch can.
I want it. Hope it becomes available here in the Philippines.
The sticker price on my 2022 2 door Base manual was $28,500. I don't need all kinds of fancy features and I've had all kinds of fun off roading with it. Coming up on 20,000 miles and no issues. Plus I can take the top and the doors off and ride in style. I wouldn't want any other vehicle.
I live in Florida and fish in the Everglades all the time. I fell in love with the Everglades Edition in green when I first saw it. Went to the dealer to order one last year. They told me it was only available to current reservation holders. I needed something that would tow my utility trailer and go off-road so I bought a 2011 Lexus GX460 with 114k miles and I absolutely loved it. Well 6 months later I got a warning light on the dash for transmission solenoids. Apparently the only fix is a tranny swap for $6k. Then I noticed a coolant leak and that’s another $2k fix. I bought the Lexus because of it was supposed to be reliable. I don’t have $8k on hand. I went to the Ford dealer the other day because they actually had an Everglades Edition in stock. The dealer had it Marked up to $76k and told me Ford has stopped taking all orders on Broncos even for 2024 models. I can’t buy a Bronco or afford to throw $8k into a $22k 12 year old vehicle. I’m basically without a vehicle for at least a year now. Screw Ford. They botched this whole thing.
Bronco Order-banks open up at the end of this month 👍
I got 2024 caddilac xt4 but i always wanted bronco. So thinking to switch but i m now confused as its lacking all those features. But i really love the look
Since you actually add the winch and stuff later, and most don’t need a snorkel it will not be a highly bought package. You could add a snorkel and move the other vents after market too if you decided you wanted it. But again aftermarket you can make it even more water capable than thd stock kit.
For the design. It's perfect. Why. It has enough but doesn't. Person like myself. I love to mod. That one has all of the basic needs. Then what I want to add. I can. Yet. I bought my truck back in 2020. Now way I can afford two new vehicles. Yet. If I could. I would definitely buy one. Thanks for sharing.
Badlands has standard sway bar disconnect. Not available on Wildtrak.
I found two everglades models for sale, one is 70k the other is 76k. WIll the prices of vehicles ever become affordable again?
What kind of gas mileage does the 4 cylinder get compared with the V-6?
I wonder what kind of tunes and turbo upgrades there will be for the 2.3...or has Ford already tuned it to within an inch of its life using the engineering resources only they have?
Ford offers a tune for the 2.3 that boosts HP to 330 and torque to 385, while retaining the factory warranty.
Tommy, you know the Badlands and Black Diamond also have rubber floors and MGV seats for that amount of money, right?
They could also have just added bigger springs of accommodate the additional weight
That likely would have required a different damper as well. Seems like they wanted to keep things simple with this package arrangement.
Tommy - you get it!
Funny how so many people say the 2.3L engine is plenty powerful enough in the Bronco but put that same engine in a much lighter Mustang and everyone says it sucks.
That's because in a Mustang, everyone is comparing it to a V8. Mustangs are also supposed to be fast. Broncos are not.
I’m fairly sure the stabilizer bar disconnects are exclusive to First Editions and Badlands trims, regardless if the Sasquatch package is selected; can anyone confirm?
I really like the bronco, but I have always been thrown off of its looks with its fender flares. When Ford announced the Everglades trim with the new flares, it corrected the issue I had with it and looks 100x better. I think those flares should be offered on every trim. I just don’t like the round flares. My wife wanted a bronco and we were set to order one but once I pointed out the flares she didn’t like it either. We do go offroad and we use the swaybar disconnect on our gladiator a lot. I think it’s dumb that they did not include the sway bar disconnect on the Everglades model. So now we are stumped again. You can’t always have everything. What to do what to do. In reality it’ll prob be fine if we don’t have a sway bar disconnect but for 55-56k they could have included it.
I’m waiting for the Goldilocks Bronco. Cloth seats, sway bar disconnect and Everglades fenders.
@@markhavelka4924 yeah I would love that! Everyone always asks me for my gladiator why didn you get leather it’s easier to clean from taking it offroad and being dirty. And I’m just like cuz when you take the top and doors off that leather gets freaking hot! No way!
Just buy a 2.3 litre Badlands Sasquatch model. Unless you plan on destroying your Bronco fording 4 ft of water and filling your interior with water, you won’t swamp the Badlands either. There will be an aftermarket snorkel either from Ford, the aftermarket, or both.
@@shitloveaduck I could, but I hate the round fender flares. Can’t just swap the flares cuz the sheet metal is diff on the fenders. Don’t care bout the snorkel whatsoever. It’s the flares
@@15jwrangler - True!!
Can the Everglades even be ordered if you don’t have an order already?
I would agree with you somewhat on your comments Tommy. I feel like people are going to purchase the higher trim Bronco then add those items (snorkel, winch...) to that higher end vehicle. It's the best of both worlds if you do it that way. I could probably go to Ford and purchase that snorkel and add it to a Badlands or bronco r edition. The other thing that does is it opens those specialty parts to all trims and different configurations, ie. 6 cylinder manual transmission with sway bar disconnect, vehicle. On the same token if you are using this as a daily driver and want some weekend off road capability or are wanting that aggressive look in your bronco without the fancy trim it would be the perfect bronco for you. As far as rarity goes, futuristically it probably will be rare because of the high price tag now with not so many options.
Love the content. But the video seemed a tad blurry. Fingerprints on lens maybe?
It's a great trim, but for me, I would have to say the Badlands. I benefit more from the bash plates and sliders. You right don't care for the leather or authentic seats.
Sorry Tommy not spending that kind of money. Also, I think the Everglades should have a 3.5l tt v6 with the 10 speed.
Want to talk about recalls? Airbag sensors malfunctioning. Rearview cameras displaying false/lagging images. windshields loose/leaking. Child safety locks opening in locked position. Then there's the massive markups over MSRP...... if you can even get one. Hardly "the best".
Didn’t you guys sell your Bronco at TFL bids?
Not to mention, the 2.3l is less desirable to most people, which is why Ford made it the only engine available in the NA Ranger. Even though we'd prefer more choice in the engine line up.
It's crazy to think back in the day "my day" I don't think you could get a 4×4 with a V8 with 300 horse power and 325 ft. pounds of torque & now you can get a small 4 cynder with it. And the best I remember my 1st brand new car was $9,000.00.
My friends King Ranch F-450 was $92k and has vinyl flooring.
Where I live in Minerva ohio the one ford dealer ship has $15000 to $31000 mark ups on their broncos
Trying to keep it under $50k. Debating between Black Diamond and Outer Banks model. Which one is the better value? If I’m only going to off road occasionally, is the Sasquatch package worth it?
I think either one of those trims with the SASQ package will set you back close to $60k
My outer banks SASQ was $58k before tax….more than I wanted to spend but definitely happy with it..
@@markcole6475 ended up with a black diamond non Sas for $48k with mid package. I couldn’t find any SASQ packages in my area below $60k. There were enon in base, BB or BD. I did want the MGV instead of leather or cloth along with a hard top so it worked out. Wish I could have found a black diamond SAS
I think it's really cool how varied Ford has made the Broncos from the factory. Like with all the different grills and myriad of other special versions, packages and options. It would be really neat to be able to perhaps visit Ford and talk about how they are able to do this- is it just additive manufacturing (3D print) decreasing costs to prototype? How else have modern manufacturing techniques allowed them to do 'boutique' mass production like this?
You want big engine… I’m the 2.3 turbo is fine. Thing moves pretty damn good. And if you want more power just get performance tune for extra 30hp. If you really want more hp than that just get a race car lol. This is a off road vehicle 2.3l is has awesome and really peppy
Dealer markups are making all broncos impossible to even look at. Maybe some day in the second hand market.
IDK I got my Badlands specifically for the vinyl floors and paid significantly more than $55k for it.
wish you would have covered a bit more of the specs on water fording the swamp rat vs std bronco water fording. Why is a defeatured, yet costly, model really worth the cost? How much weight difference is there really? You mentioned things, but failed to 'sell' me that it is really desirable, because you did not drill into the details more.
Everglades looks like a better package. No Sasquatch in Glades only Skunk Apes and never gets cold enough to warrant heated wheel/seats. Otherwise, it was a good commercial for Ford. FYI--I remember mud boggin in the 80s with my buddy in his 2 door 4 banger Yota! 4 cylinders are plenty of engine for most people.
I wish you could get the 3.0L engine in the bronco without the raptor package! The 2.7L is just underpowered for a built bronco. I have the 2.7L in my F150 and it gets a passing grade when not towing, but honestly it doesn't have enough to put a grin on your face. Maybe I am just too used to driving electric cars like the Model Y that have dual motors and insane torque off the line?
Not putting in the sway bar disconnect is a huge miss
So you're mentioning the increased water fording but not the difference in number?
does anyone know if/when the Bronco 2.3 will receive combo port and direct injection ?
Any Bronco is”encouraged” to add a winch so using the weight savings as a basis for not offering this trim with the 2.7 seems like marketing to sell more 2.3 engines. 🤔
Can’t do the snorkel. Wife had to have carpet and leather. I wanted a Coyote so settled for the 2.7.
I like the floors and Another great Video
If I ever get a full size Bronco this is the one I want but in green. I currently only own a sport because I'm not a baller.
Base SAS- then aftermarket for everything else.
The fact it's designed for 'overlanding' yet the cab is still too small to sleep in is ridiculous at this point. Why not make the front seats somehow fold down to accommodate a mattress?
I couldn't agree more. It is too bad that Ford brought it back for 2023 model year because as a one year limited trim, it would have been more rare than the first edition as well as the heritage limited trims.
So if the winch takes up the 100 pounds from the 2.7, why can’t you equip any 2.7 with a roof rack?
6 cylinder wheel spin, 4 cylinder will get you home. Long time off roader in Appalachia.
You had me wanting one up until you said it doesn't come in two doors I've always wanted to know can you get a base model with the Sasquatch back he's all I wants the off-road goodies not sit don't need a heated steering wheel don't need electric don't heated seats either
Those are the same fender flares as the Heritage Edition. Not that you can get one of those either