"Ha ha! Whatever. I'm not even mad. This makes for a good learning experience." *returns to Uruk* "Welcome back, my King. What can we..." _"Have every snake in my kingdom killed."_
It's important to note that when studying myth, what defines a "hero" changes from era to era. While the historical Gilgamesh was a batshit insane crazy person who would have been given a healthy dose of Freedom and Democracy today, back then achieving what he did and defying the gods was like the pinnacle of self-accomplishment. Being "good" wasn't what defined a hero. Being "great" was. Same with Heracles.
Yeah ,in an era were people lives only to 30 years old and a bunch of gods been tyranical. Seen a human essencially winning against the gods and dies in bed is a freacking hero.
Well sure, he was a cunt before he met enkidu and all that. But after he returned from his journey to find the immortal plant he had learned a lot and became a hero in the purest sense.
Bullshit, the Original Gilgamesh is a nice and kind hearted person that helped his Kingdom to become the greatest in the world as oppose to Nasus Gil, who brought his country to ruins and falied to do anything awesome ever since. Viewing his bad is merely ignoring his own Story's message and applying Modern morales on the Mesopotamians,who even criticized his behaviour early on.
From what you said, i remember the scene where iskandar, gil and artoria had a drink. It makes sense why Gil and Iskandar was so disappointed with how Arthur's story ended up to be.
I heard somewhere that Ishtar didn't just want to marry Gilgamesh because he fell in love with him. In fact, the reason why Gilgamesh is a demigod in the first place is because the King of Uruk is always meant to marry a goddess to consolidate the rule of the Gods over the people. So, in that regard, Gilgamesh wasn't some crush Ishtar decided to pursue on a godly whim. By all accounts, Gilgamesh was Ishtar's rightful betrothed. Gilgamesh didn't just reject her because she has a terrible history (heheh) with men, but because by rejecting a goddess, control of Heaven over the Earth is severed, effectively establishing mankind as independent and free from the Gods and capable of determining its own future (with Gilgamesh leading it, of course). That act declaring humanity's independence is part of what makes him a Heroic Spirit. He accomplished this dream of self-determination and elevated humanity to new heights and possibilities before dying. It's important to remember that Fate explores the question "What does it mean to be a Hero (and furthermore, what does it mean to be a King)?" A Hero isn't always a rightful figure who does everything right and can never do any harm. A hero simply has to embody the dreams and hopes of mankind, whether those dreams or hopes end for better or worse. And in Gilgamesh's case, you can always argue whether his actions worked for the former or the latter. Good video as always!
Damn, that's really deep. Just imagine what the world of the Fate series would be like if Gilgamesh had just accepted his role as the keystone and married Ishtar. Humanity, even after 4000 years would be so different and would likely still be subservient to the gods.
In Fate, this is the case. However, Inanna is not the one who would be used if a king were to sever ties and rebel. Gilgamesh denied her hand in marriage because of her past, however pledged servitude to her instead, as he was already performing as such to her. Note that this is after Humbaba is slaughtered, in which Inanna is a war deity. She favors the strong, the ones who create bountiful harvests, the ones who can fuck the best, you name it and she'll probably go for it; she is a paradoxical yet lovable goddess. The issue with Gilgamesh taking control and humans operating on their own is that heaven operated alongside Earth, not "Heaven > Earth," although that is true in terms of.. everything. The gods held the ability to make mankind slaves, they literally lived within the cities that mankind inhabited, in which Anu was in Eanna (the time period of Inanna taking his domain instead of sharing it hasn't occurred yet). The gods have the Tablets of Destiny and the Mes, in which humanity is simply nothing but ants before them. Gilgamesh never willingly went against the gods unless there was a god on his side, or few, that would prevent divinity from coming down and slapping him (it took Enlil's anger and him killing the bull for Enkidu the cunt to be killed, though--). The core of Sumerian belief was that you were originally a slave to the gods, but you are now walking with them as man, and they are to still be worshiped, but you are to have a life. Gilgamesh never fought this, as he was like Enki; always able to loophole and still remain evaded criticism unless it was literally impossible. His arrogance and being a tyrant, however, was what made people dislike him, same to Inanna. Inanna is a hypocritical, power-hungry, war-mongering goddess; she is more akin to Nergal than anyone else, and Nergal's name is literally "The Great Pride of Uruk." Personally, what he did wasn't go against the gods at all; his journey was orchestrated by Enki the entire time and Enki literally handed him knowledge via the Sage in the Underworld. There's nothing in Gilg's epic that supports the idea of rebelling against the gods in totality, which is where Nasu took creative liberties. I won't fault him for that, as he did a decent job with it, however the culture would have been changed a lot more than it was if humanity saw itself as superior to the gods (See Sargon of Akkad). Gilgamesh performed the action of learning what it meant to live, and learned how to be immortal in a more metaphorical sense. The Epic of Gilgamesh took centuries to write and is in three to four, if I recall correctly, written languages (Sumerian, Akkadian, and Babylonian, I forget the last one if there was one). Sha Nanqa Imuru was an edit of a previous version of his Epic; people worked tirelessly when writing to ensure that the heart of the story and the message would not be forgotten to time, and it looks like it worked out fine. Gilgamesh attained his immortality in the ashes of clay and in the hearts of readers, as well as aiding one of the most divine cities known to mankind (see Enmerkar) to be recalled for many a millennia. What better way to go, loved by the gods and a teacher to man.
Yes. There are many differences between our history and the nasuverse, but i say that the nasuverse depiction of gilgamesh in the animes doesn't fit the irl Epic of Gilgamesh. I think the nasuverse version is fitting in a way that the originals can't quite compare. And i find the anime's depiction of Gilgamesh extremely interesting, more so than the depiction irl. The story is far more 'grand' and i find the contrast between Gilgamesh's actions and his personality/mannerisms etc. in the anime and his time as the king of Uruk hugely intriguing.
@@toastedtoast6126 Of course, which is fine, however even with Nasu's logic in place with Ishtar's domains and whatnot, it would make no sense that denying her the wedding would present an idea of rebelling against the gods, as she's still the most, as Nasu puts it, "spoiled," a trait the gods really.. didn't partake in. The story of Gilgamesh in Fate is also one that I do enjoy, as it seems to elaborate more on what he did from time to time, but also tends to break when looking for specifics (but that's what happens when you combine three religions into one). Personally, his arrogance has been shown a lot more than in the Epics, which serves the nasuverse well as the epic is centered around that. Now the one thing I'm confused on is Enkidu, however we'll cross that bridge when it comes to it. As per it being fitting, it does indeed fit with what Nasu attempts to perform with it, however the funny thing that one notices is that the Epic itself focuses on several points and tries to cram them all in a sort of odd mannerism, whereas the nasuverse focuses only really on his ruling time to Enkidu's death, afterward the writing simply sums up the ending.
I looked up Gilgamesh’s back story once and saw it was something to do with that stone tablet and a poem. Had no idea there was this much content from a stone tablet and a poem. This man is a historian
I wonder how many people actually knew who Gilgamesh was in history before seeing him in fate. I for one only knew of him because in middle school, they spent a year or 2 on the subject and most of the old myths and civilizations. It also helps that i'm a huge history nerd so this show basically drew me in and i'm happy i got introduced to it
Gilgamesh is an interesting character, because he takes the whole "people can change" to a new extreme. He goes from being the sweet child generally speaking, to a tyrannical being beyond belief even in that era, to a somewhat less scummy individual as whole. In that regard, FSN/FZ could be seen as Gil's deviant stage. Which version of Gil do you prefer?
@@heroricspiritfreinen38 there are 2 other confirmed canon versions of Gil. One is a young kid Gil and another is a caster version of him that shows up in Fate Grand Order
And now that I think about it. Rider was the only one Gilgamesh saw as a worthy rival towards the end of Fate/Zero. Hmmmm. I wonder what thought process goes into turning these historical figures in anime characters. I also can't help but notice how the Stay Night servants that appear in Fate/Grand Order First Order look closer to their historical depictions than their Stay Night designs.
To me, Iskandar's looks would actually have been how I imagined Genghis would look like in real life, as in big, Red haired, highly charismatic, heck Nasuverse Iskandar pretty much have all the descriptions of real world Genghis Khan. Originally nasuverse Iskandar would have Gilgamesh's personality but Nasu liked how Urobutchi wrote Iskandar that he used that as how he was percieved in all fate media.
I took mythology in high school and we learned a similar but very different story. Like Gilgamesh was never a terrible king but did sleep around. We were told that Enkidu was made from water and clay to rival Gilgamesh but he wasn't a clay man, he had flesh and blood just like Gilgamesh. When news of Enkidu running around in the wild got back to Gilgamesh he decided to have him seduced by this women. After Enkidu was seduced his animal friends would run away from him because he was no longer pure, starting the beef between Gilgamesh and Enkidu. They fought but neither could win so they became best buds and started ganking gods together. They built some giant door and Enkidu received capital punishment for it, prompting Gilgamesh's existential crisis and pursuit of immortality. Update: I should've just watched the rest of the video he tells us its "Fates" mythology, not the real one.
Fool! The word mongrel is not just limited to humans. Gilgamesh uses it to address anyone who is below him. And you mongrel got another thing wrong. Gilgamesh is 2/3 god and 1/3 human. But it does not really matter if he is human or god, he is still superior to all of you mongrels!
Some Guy again EA is an anti world Noble phantasim, Achilles' Akhilleus Kosmos is a noble phantasim that creates a world, it will destroy it and Achilles
Gil being so damn arrogant is perhaps the best thing about his character to me, he loses a lot because of it, but it's still funny to see him call somebody a mongrel and knowing the only way most of them can beat him is if he allows it to happen. It also helps when you see him pull the key out to grab EA and the basic reaction from everybody is "what the fuck is that thing?!"
Gilgamesh beats Alucard , there is no comparisson. Gilgamesh have grails , concept weapons , anti-divinity items and even something that could destroy Earth. There is a low amount of Heroic Sprits that have the same level as him or can actually counter him , mostly of them are Grand Servants , Enkidou , Hercules (not-Berserk), Karna and Saviors. You know he is OP when it needs a Savior , which consists of Jesus , Buddha and whatnot , to fight him.
@@phantasosxgames8488 well, alucard pretty much becomes unkillable in the end of the anime. Like, even if you manage to wipe him out of existence he would just need to imagine himself somewhere and he would appear. But im guessing Gil has a weapon somwhere in that god damn treasury that nullifies that, cause its fking Gil. (those two are both my favorite characters btw)
Well , Alucard's unkillable power comes from a soul , so any attack that inflicts the soul could be potentically powerful against him. Futhermore , like you said , Gil probably had a treasure that nullifies that. This guy pull off a treasure to beat Buddha's attack , which was a ray that is as powerful as humanity's knowledge.
This is kinda why Caster Gilgamesh is much cooler than Archer imo, Archer Gilgamesh was summoned in a form before he went on his journey for immortality while Caster Gilgamesh is him after this journey, it's kinda much cooler
Caster Gilgamesh is the Wise King of Uruk after his journey, he along with Proto Gil are the more realistic version of the real gilgamesh. But if Gil were to be like Proto+Caster, he would be unstoppable and as this series need love to win, they wouldn't dare to make him this way, otherwise he will just spam EA in 0.5 sec.
It's true , Bryan. That been said , Fate Prototype do exist in Nasu Multiverse and Proto Gil had a different wild card. Proto Gil have GoB , but more limited , he is primarily a fighter (in short , he fights like Archer EMIYA) , while his Enuma Elish is a diluve. That been said , Proto Saber Arthur had a more powerful version of Excalibur. It works with seals , by breaking the seals , his shot is stronger , but consumes more and takes more time.
While is true that Proto Gil's Bab-Ilu (GoB) is more limited (10 golden orbs) is better for melee combat, at difference of Archer Gil whose GoB works in a more static way (stand and shot at long range). Proto Gil fights more like Emiya Shirou (UBW - Shirou vs. Gil) than Archer EMIYA, EMIYA uses multiple weapons to fight (swords, shields, bows, etc.) but he rarely will spam them like Shirou in his fight against Gil. Proto Gil like Proto Arthur are more faithful to their original legends, so he is no a owner like Archer Gil but a Grand Master (and demigod), he defeats Proto Arthur in melee combat (I'm not sure if in Protoverse Heroic Spirit's parameters and skills are still limited by the classes. Proto Berserk gives low info) but is defeated in their clash of NP, as you stated Proto Arthur's NP is stronger. Not even one of the enemies of Proto Arthur are in the same league of Proto Gil, he is the original Hercules, fighting epic monsters, gigants, divine beasts, etc. not having EA nor Enki (Enki manifestation of his legend not a weapon he had in his life like Vlad Dracul's Vampire Form) but just normal weapons and a good fella.
Daffa Alfayedh Faster? Based on what? IIRC firing rate of both were never stated, but as Archer Gil can open the whole gate/more golden orbs he could shoot more weapons per second. Sacrificing movility for attack power. Proto Excaliblast is more OP. Yet not as insanely OP as Enuma Elish that shit is broken as fuck.
He has to lose somehow. Though it was strange seeing him take damage in ubw. He went through zero and all of ubw without even breaking a sweat, only to lose to shirou.
@@unknowingreaper6556 Well he didn't had a master so no extra mana. He didn't had his armor so basically he can take normal damage (servant wise) and well.. his arrogance so he was also holding back so that's kinda the only way he did lose.
i guess being the strongest in this scenario is his disadvantage. it's hard to make a story interesting if the person who is the strongest from the start wins the last fight (with a few exceptions ofc)
@@hamtaru Gilgamesh = every boss in rpg games. They could have killed you when ur lvl 1 but they dont lol. Just like gilgamesh can use EA from the start but wont use it.
Gilgamesh and Enkidu friendship is similar to that of Alexander the Great and Hephaestion. Despite sleeping with countless women, historians have been hinting that Alaxander and Hephaestion could be more than childhood besties/battle combat/ruler-general. They're also lovers.
Well the one that appears in Unlimited Blade Works is the Archer variation (summoned from before his encounter with the snake) and also appears in the other continuities of Stay Night and Heaven's Feel (though not all the movies are out for this.) If you really want to see Gil at, what I consider, his best you should pick up Fate/zero. It's the same studio that animated Unlimited Blade Works and is a prequel of sheer badassery. As for the Caster variation I *think* he's only in Fate Grand Order in a specific arc
Fun fact for me. Before I ever watched Fate/Stay Night, I read about Gilgamesh in college and that great story. When I understood the concept of Fate/Stay night and the whole Fate series, my mind was blown.
When you realize Gilgamesh is a servant with countless noble phantasms, a murderous attitude and the temperament of a toddler who doesn’t want to share his toys...
I absolutely love him in Fate/Extra CCC he treats you like trash but still cares for you, not to mention his narcissism in treating you like entertainment.
03:04 something that should be noticed is that the concept of a hero being a kind person is quite modern, the concept of hero that is presented in the Fate series is the "classic" one seen in greek myth (in that case, Hero = A person that is exceptional or capable of exceptional deeds), that is also why is possible to summon servants considered "evil" from the throne of heroes (Vlad the III was made known specifically by his "exceptional demonstration of brutality" for example)
This shows that there is wisdom in ancient stories. a story that is atleast 4.000 years old teaches us that its not the destination that holds the most value, its the journey and how it makes you grow that matters most and that working towards something is the fuel of life.
I know its probably just my inner fangirl who is talking, but I always saw Gil as a good being. His child version and adult version are so kind and responsible, they do have his sadism but no one can deny that they are both good. So i just see Archer Gil as a teenager who hasn't matured and is overwhelmed by both of his hormones and magical power. If I'm not wrong, Gil's body is mortal, human, however his powers are ones of a god, that's why, as his power developped, he had a "teenager crisis" as his godly side was overwhelming his human side. As said in the video, gods have a different perspective of things, for him, rape, murder or any of his horrible actions are normal. Later on, I think that the fight against Enkidu has drained most of the power/magic he had, allowing him to regain control over his action and see things more clearly. It would explain the sudden change in his behavior, and him suddenly caring for the people he had hurt. Moreover, mabe Enkidu wasn't send just to kill Gil, but instead to kill the god part of Gil, to drain or turn off that part. In my point of view, after fate ccc and babylonia' singularity (fate go), I see Gil ( the real one) as someone who trully loves his people and humanity in general, he ma be rude, but he always show that he cares. Also, see how he only call some people "mongrels" and not others, I believe he only call "mongrels" human that are weak, that doesn't have the courage to do something and change their destiny, or find their prupose in their lifes.
@@krs1297 Karna summoned as a rider legit ends universes. Karna in all summons is always limited by his master's too small magic reserves, which is why Karna used his NP only after he had a Grail and another servant fueling his NP. Gil is ok, but in manga even Gil in his arrogance is hesitant to tangle with Karna.
@@jerryknudsen7898 I thought Karna's best class was Archer. He was so good, even Arjuna was inferior to him in several aspects. He could even put Heracles to shame
I liked Gilgamesh the moment I heard of the version of him from Fate. I like him even more now that I have seen your video about his legend from the Fate series.
Can we have a Gilgamesh and enkidu story and see it from the beginning to the end. I would love to see his story of ups and downs in real time snd thr greatest battle having Gilgamesh actually go all out and beat the gods.
3:06 About how Gilgamesh became a hero, it's the antique concept of hero: an extraordinary warrior, not necesary tied to morality. Although, I know this concept of a person that acomplishes something outstanding and it's remember by humanity as such
Gilgamesh story itself could be a best series if there any adaptation of it.... He's my fav servant despite his arrogance, glad im having both of gil version in my chaldea
It's so weird that you didn't know about Gilgamesh before Fate, I don't know about other countries but in Italy Gilgamesh's Poem is one of, if not the first, literature topic that is taught at school, since it's the oldest epic poem we have knowledge about
Worth noting that this is Fate Lore, which is a tad different from The Epic of Gilgamesh. In this video, it’s hard to distinguish where the narrator is referencing the actual Epic itself and Fate lore, beginning with referring to Gilgamesh as 2/3 god and 1/3 human. That’s from The Epic. Fate Gilgamesh is 1/2 human, 1/2 god. In The Epic of Gilgamesh, Gilgamesh didn't declare Enkidu his only friend. In The Epic of Gilgamesh, the only reason that Gilgamesh (and mankind) didn't become immortal was that the Herb of Immortality that he had obtained was eaten by a snake. But in Fate, Gilgamesh "went back and obtained the Herb of Immortality again just for the sake of collection but didn't use it".
@@joshuamorgan1878 The Fate franchise began with the visual novel Fate/Stay Night by Kinoko Nasu, which was based in the fictional multiverse (Nasuverse) of his previous works such as tsukihime. The Fate franchise gained immense popularity which led to the creation of it's anime and multiple spin-off titles and games under similar names. Most of the Fate series are unrelated to one another, but they all have in common the plot device of 'servants' which are incarnations of famous 'heroic spirits' in human history. The Fate franchise obtained it's popularity from its remarkable world-building which has become so elaborate and large that it rivals Tolkien's fictional universe.
In the past, being a hero has nothing to do with kindness. It has more to do with acquiring Glory and Prestige through war. Maybe there are other methods apart from wars... but this is the most popular.
The Myths and Legends podcast tells his story and how he became a hero in episode 54A-Gilgamesh: Did We Just Become Best Friends? The story you say in this video matches up almost exactly.
Who else thinks it would be awesome if the main hero’s in the series got their own spinoffs that tells the story of how exactly they became heroic spirit in the fate series. Like entire spinoffs of the hero in their own lore with each series ending with them becoming servants.
I absolutely love your character explanation man. Specially this one. You describe the characters so nicely and explain the lore so well! While some other youtubers explain the lore and then spoils so many things without a single warning. I would love to see you make some lore videos about fate characters (fgo servants) and I'm sure I am not the only one who would love to see it. I really hope you will make more fate related lore videos in the future :(
Tuấn Cường Nghiêm you do know that all beings with divinity are practically guaranteed to lose to Gil. Not only does Gil hate them. I mean he really does, but Enkidu(his chain) also becomes stronger the higher the divinity of the being it is used against. So the Demi-gods that you say that has been nerfed so much would all get destroyed.
Lord Escanor I will said more advantage but not a guaranteed win If he face Quetz in Babylon, who has EX rank Divinity, it doenst stop her to beat Gilgamesh and his chain because one of her noble phantasm has an ability to seal her opponent np (plus she has immunity to Good allignment servant in babylon)
So, the man has permanent access to a treasure vault, but he decided to place the plant of immortality in the ground before taking a bath... genius move buddy. What the fuck is Enkidu doing here!!! It was a just a joke, please let me go, let me got , NOOOO!!! (Sound of a neck breaking in pieces)
Greeting citizens, as someone versed in the original Epic, but having little knowledge of Fate's interpretation/twisting of the Epic, it is a fascinating ordeal to compare them one on one. Hail to the Empire.
3:07 The word hero is a misnomer. The translation for the word used in the original japanese Enkei translates to "Legendary Spirit" Plus the grail allows for "anti-heroes" to be summoned to it would make sense for him to be summoned anyway.
If watching in the order of release =fate stay night -> Fate zero -> fate stay night(UBW)(similar to stay night but a little different)-> then the movie i heavens feel if want to follow the timeline from start then fate zero should be watched first fate apocrypha doesn't relate to the above ones so its kind
The logical start and chronologically first in the Nasu timeline is Fate/Zero. *I RECOMMEND YOU SAVE IT FOR LAST THOUGH* , it does not explain many of the complicated elements of the setting. It's by the Urobutcher, depending on your disposition I'd say to bring lots of tissues or popcorn. From here on out it gets a bit complicated. Studio Deen's Fate/Stay Night is not an accurate adaptation of the visual novel, it mix-and-matches elements of all of the routes. But it is also the only available anime adaptation of the Fate route. Unlimited Blade Works, the second route of three, is available as a Movie and a 26 episode anime (plus an OVA) and I recommend going with the anime as it has more time to flesh it all out. The third and final route, Heavens Feel, is a series of three movies of which only the first, Presage Flowers, is currently out. Emiya-san Chi kyou no Gohan is optional. It's a light-hearted cooking show and I don't quite know how it fits into the timeline. Carnival Phantasm is absolutely not canon. It's pure cracky slapstick comedy. It also features characters from Type-Moon's other visual novel, Tsukihime ( *WHICH DOES NOT HAVE AN ANIME ADAPTATION!* , anyone who tells you otherwise is a liar). There's also a sequel VN which as of right now doesn't have any planned anime adaptation, Fate/Hollow Ataraxia. There are also other anime and OVAs such as Fate/Extra: Last Encore, Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya (three seasons and a movie), multiple Fate/Grand Order OVAs, but they all take place in alternate universes/timelines. Last Encore does not work at all if you haven't played its game, Fate/Extra for the PSP.
I read gilgamesh's original story when i first finished fate zero. I found it to be one of the more interesting one of the carracters in the franchise. Also, I loved enkidous character and now that i've seen an anime version of him, love him even more.
God I love Gilgamesh so much. He's such an asshole, but the type that can back up his arrogance to the point that it's really not arrogance, because he's not overly confident if he can sever the bonds of space and time with Ea, it's just accurate.
Well usually arrogant characters are shown to be underwhelming in most anime series, but he's considered by Type-Moon to be the strongest, only beaten because he didn't take the fight seriously.
Eh no. Nasu was talking about the original FSN only. In FGO, there are many stronger than Gil. And there is Enkidu who destinied to be equal to Gil. Just this fact alone disproved the myth of Gil being strongest, as strongest mean he has no equal.
And this is exactly why gilgamesh is my favorite servant even tough he is an arrogant asshole he is an honest arrogant asshole who is brutal to his enemies he is the first king and flaunts it he is the perfect king. It is because of 2 things, 1 a king must never show mercy too his enemies which he does not and 2 a king must always be proud of his accomplishments. He shows what a king is meant to be. In this manner gilgamesh and iskandar are actually quite similar they both show no mercy too their enemies and are wise about life in fact id dare say that gilgamesh might see a bit of himself in iskandar. Iskandar was basically following gilgamesh footsteps in wishing to conquer the world but never succeded while gilgamesh did succed while gaining all the worlds treasure's. tough there are quite a few differances with them they both share the same core of a king. Wow this went far longer then I tought it would im stopping this now before I never stop and cause a writing comment of around 1000 words if not more.
holy shit this was damn fascinating, now I understand why Tokiomi Tohsaka used a shed snakes skin as a catalyst to summon Gil, also, this lore made me appreciate Gils character so much more.
I know right. Problem was, the more I appreciate Gil's character in the Epic, the more I abhor how Fate destroyed his character so badly. From the pure represent of human man psych to a shallow shell of walking ego ridden with plot armor and cringe af wanking.
Me: *gives him a warhammer* Gil: What is this? Me: it's a warhammer, you *swing* it at people. Make sure you *S W I N G* it hard. Gil: ......Imma just yeet it at a fool at mach 5. Me: No don't throw it you're supposed to- Gil: -mach 6? Me:.....yes mach 6
Fun fact: the artistic models in this video used to show the sun god and Humbaba are actually depictions of the god Marduk and the mother of the gods, Tiamat. Older story, though it has its influences in the mythology of the Epic of Gilgamesh.
"Ha ha! Whatever. I'm not even mad. This makes for a good learning experience."
*returns to Uruk*
"Welcome back, my King. What can we..."
_"Have every snake in my kingdom killed."_
I'm gonna reply to you where ever I see you. Just so you can say to me, "this guy replies to me everywhere".
This guy replies to me everywhere... GUH!!!
What the hell dude, you're still around?
Damn it
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Point for you 145
And I thought Adam had a thing against snakes.
Gilgamesh: *Throws sword at beserker*
Beserker: *Catches sword*
Gilgamesh: YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO DO THAT
berserker:bitch i can uno reverse you.
gilgamesh:oh. shiiiiiit. im out.
berserker:...bitch
"YO CHILL CHILL ISSA JOKE"
gilgamesh as a saber:sup bitch
*draws ea*
berserker:nope.
*kills self*
@@lolbots686 I would be to powerful so the grail doesn't permit my saber form
Don't touch my stuff
It's important to note that when studying myth, what defines a "hero" changes from era to era. While the historical Gilgamesh was a batshit insane crazy person who would have been given a healthy dose of Freedom and Democracy today, back then achieving what he did and defying the gods was like the pinnacle of self-accomplishment. Being "good" wasn't what defined a hero. Being "great" was. Same with Heracles.
Yeah ,in an era were people lives only to 30 years old and a bunch of gods been tyranical.
Seen a human essencially winning against the gods and dies in bed is a freacking hero.
Well sure, he was a cunt before he met enkidu and all that. But after he returned from his journey to find the immortal plant he had learned a lot and became a hero in the purest sense.
Bullshit, the Original Gilgamesh is a nice and kind hearted person that helped his Kingdom to become the greatest in the world as oppose to Nasus Gil, who brought his country to ruins and falied to do anything awesome ever since.
Viewing his bad is merely ignoring his own Story's message and applying Modern morales on the Mesopotamians,who even criticized his behaviour early on.
Thats exactly what the guy is talking about, read it again
From what you said, i remember the scene where iskandar, gil and artoria had a drink. It makes sense why Gil and Iskandar was so disappointed with how Arthur's story ended up to be.
Gil: u took everything from me
Snake: *i don’t even know who you are*
*You Will*
@@vushasenakingofallzasshus6089 Ohh Shit
I heard somewhere that Ishtar didn't just want to marry Gilgamesh because he fell in love with him. In fact, the reason why Gilgamesh is a demigod in the first place is because the King of Uruk is always meant to marry a goddess to consolidate the rule of the Gods over the people. So, in that regard, Gilgamesh wasn't some crush Ishtar decided to pursue on a godly whim. By all accounts, Gilgamesh was Ishtar's rightful betrothed.
Gilgamesh didn't just reject her because she has a terrible history (heheh) with men, but because by rejecting a goddess, control of Heaven over the Earth is severed, effectively establishing mankind as independent and free from the Gods and capable of determining its own future (with Gilgamesh leading it, of course).
That act declaring humanity's independence is part of what makes him a Heroic Spirit. He accomplished this dream of self-determination and elevated humanity to new heights and possibilities before dying. It's important to remember that Fate explores the question "What does it mean to be a Hero (and furthermore, what does it mean to be a King)?" A Hero isn't always a rightful figure who does everything right and can never do any harm. A hero simply has to embody the dreams and hopes of mankind, whether those dreams or hopes end for better or worse.
And in Gilgamesh's case, you can always argue whether his actions worked for the former or the latter.
Good video as always!
Damn, that's really deep. Just imagine what the world of the Fate series would be like if Gilgamesh had just accepted his role as the keystone and married Ishtar. Humanity, even after 4000 years would be so different and would likely still be subservient to the gods.
Fuck, this is the best comment in this whole section
In Fate, this is the case.
However, Inanna is not the one who would be used if a king were to sever ties and rebel. Gilgamesh denied her hand in marriage because of her past, however pledged servitude to her instead, as he was already performing as such to her. Note that this is after Humbaba is slaughtered, in which Inanna is a war deity. She favors the strong, the ones who create bountiful harvests, the ones who can fuck the best, you name it and she'll probably go for it; she is a paradoxical yet lovable goddess.
The issue with Gilgamesh taking control and humans operating on their own is that heaven operated alongside Earth, not "Heaven > Earth," although that is true in terms of.. everything. The gods held the ability to make mankind slaves, they literally lived within the cities that mankind inhabited, in which Anu was in Eanna (the time period of Inanna taking his domain instead of sharing it hasn't occurred yet). The gods have the Tablets of Destiny and the Mes, in which humanity is simply nothing but ants before them. Gilgamesh never willingly went against the gods unless there was a god on his side, or few, that would prevent divinity from coming down and slapping him (it took Enlil's anger and him killing the bull for Enkidu the cunt to be killed, though--).
The core of Sumerian belief was that you were originally a slave to the gods, but you are now walking with them as man, and they are to still be worshiped, but you are to have a life. Gilgamesh never fought this, as he was like Enki; always able to loophole and still remain evaded criticism unless it was literally impossible. His arrogance and being a tyrant, however, was what made people dislike him, same to Inanna. Inanna is a hypocritical, power-hungry, war-mongering goddess; she is more akin to Nergal than anyone else, and Nergal's name is literally "The Great Pride of Uruk."
Personally, what he did wasn't go against the gods at all; his journey was orchestrated by Enki the entire time and Enki literally handed him knowledge via the Sage in the Underworld. There's nothing in Gilg's epic that supports the idea of rebelling against the gods in totality, which is where Nasu took creative liberties. I won't fault him for that, as he did a decent job with it, however the culture would have been changed a lot more than it was if humanity saw itself as superior to the gods (See Sargon of Akkad).
Gilgamesh performed the action of learning what it meant to live, and learned how to be immortal in a more metaphorical sense. The Epic of Gilgamesh took centuries to write and is in three to four, if I recall correctly, written languages (Sumerian, Akkadian, and Babylonian, I forget the last one if there was one). Sha Nanqa Imuru was an edit of a previous version of his Epic; people worked tirelessly when writing to ensure that the heart of the story and the message would not be forgotten to time, and it looks like it worked out fine. Gilgamesh attained his immortality in the ashes of clay and in the hearts of readers, as well as aiding one of the most divine cities known to mankind (see Enmerkar) to be recalled for many a millennia. What better way to go, loved by the gods and a teacher to man.
Yes. There are many differences between our history and the nasuverse, but i say that the nasuverse depiction of gilgamesh in the animes doesn't fit the irl Epic of Gilgamesh. I think the nasuverse version is fitting in a way that the originals can't quite compare. And i find the anime's depiction of Gilgamesh extremely interesting, more so than the depiction irl. The story is far more 'grand' and i find the contrast between Gilgamesh's actions and his personality/mannerisms etc. in the anime and his time as the king of Uruk hugely intriguing.
@@toastedtoast6126 Of course, which is fine, however even with Nasu's logic in place with Ishtar's domains and whatnot, it would make no sense that denying her the wedding would present an idea of rebelling against the gods, as she's still the most, as Nasu puts it, "spoiled," a trait the gods really.. didn't partake in. The story of Gilgamesh in Fate is also one that I do enjoy, as it seems to elaborate more on what he did from time to time, but also tends to break when looking for specifics (but that's what happens when you combine three religions into one). Personally, his arrogance has been shown a lot more than in the Epics, which serves the nasuverse well as the epic is centered around that. Now the one thing I'm confused on is Enkidu, however we'll cross that bridge when it comes to it.
As per it being fitting, it does indeed fit with what Nasu attempts to perform with it, however the funny thing that one notices is that the Epic itself focuses on several points and tries to cram them all in a sort of odd mannerism, whereas the nasuverse focuses only really on his ruling time to Enkidu's death, afterward the writing simply sums up the ending.
Enkidu: It's not gay if it's clay
Also , it taked his form from a woman.
So , it's completely safe.
@@phantasosxgames8488 not really woman but more like male version of shamhat
Redundant, since everyone in this story is made out of Clay.
Enkidu: First Trap in history
@@lawlicht8092 Agreed.😂
fun fact : Rin's father used the snake's skin to summon gilgamesh
Snake*
@@mohamedelhediissa289 *snek
Ohhh I thought you just found a piece of a sword That belong to a Gilgamesh
Ironic ig😂
@@mudkipfan1266 I mean every sword that humans made are technically Gilgamesh'es
"Sense of pride and acomplishment" and EA logo flies by. 😂😂😂😂😂
EA: Publisher of Rupture
Class: Anti-Game Noble Phantasm
(kappa)-ness confirmed.
inb4 EA files a copyright complaint
chalange everythings :3
I looked up Gilgamesh’s back story once and saw it was something to do with that stone tablet and a poem. Had no idea there was this much content from a stone tablet and a poem. This man is a historian
It's not just any poem.
It's an epic which consists of at least a thousand line.
I wonder how many people actually knew who Gilgamesh was in history before seeing him in fate.
I for one only knew of him because in middle school, they spent a year or 2 on the subject and most of the old myths and civilizations. It also helps that i'm a huge history nerd so this show basically drew me in and i'm happy i got introduced to it
I knew him... from a fucking trading card.
Yu-Gi-Oh Monster type Link -2 and part of the D/D/D archetype D/D/D Abyss King Gilgamesh
They made us read the epic of gilgamesh in high school. It was one of the few stories I liked in all my literature class
@@Noble_Savage704 damn i wanna do that in history class. Not read about fkn Denmark When we had No money
@@Noble_Savage704 Which shows you're either very ignorant and has bad taste or your literature classes were really shitty.
Gilgamesh is an interesting character, because he takes the whole "people can change" to a new extreme. He goes from being the sweet child generally speaking, to a tyrannical being beyond belief even in that era, to a somewhat less scummy individual as whole. In that regard, FSN/FZ could be seen as Gil's deviant stage. Which version of Gil do you prefer?
I like Caster Gil. He's a chill dude.
How do you guys know so much about the different versions of Gil when we've only seen one? I'm confused.
@@heroricspiritfreinen38 there are 2 other confirmed canon versions of Gil. One is a young kid Gil and another is a caster version of him that shows up in Fate Grand Order
@@psychopassisamasterpiece1997 in song think he means that in depth. He means like do you like his Archer version, kid version, or caster one.
Definitely Caster Gil
Man Gil is an intriguing character tbh.
Like the dude is arrogant, mean, sometimes downright evil.
Yet we still love him
He is still best boy
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybristophilia
I fuckin hate him he is aroggant
@@narutouchiha8353 Meh you called yourself naruto Uchiha soo...
Nuff said.
naruto Uchiha his sassy and cocky attitude is interesting tbh. Plus his arrogant literally cuz his the strongest servant. Ofc he’d be arrogant lol.
So basically the sadistic psychopath we see in Zero and Stay Night is basically the tyrant from before meeting Enkidu.
Pretty much
yeah, and the guy you will see in the baylonia anime is his wiser version
@@pablo9234 I can't wait for that. When will it be released?
@@itsyaboy9829 2019 (we don't know the exact date yet)
pablo melon
never heard of this baylonia...is it another fate series
I'm I the only one who thinks Iskandar (Fate/Zero Rider) design looks more like Gilgamesh actual depictions in our history.
I think you're onto something here
Lincoln Beckett-Scott natsuverse where everyone expection is inverted and gender is flipped
And now that I think about it. Rider was the only one Gilgamesh saw as a worthy rival towards the end of Fate/Zero. Hmmmm.
I wonder what thought process goes into turning these historical figures in anime characters. I also can't help but notice how the Stay Night servants that appear in Fate/Grand Order First Order look closer to their historical depictions than their Stay Night designs.
To me, Iskandar's looks would actually have been how I imagined Genghis would look like in real life, as in big, Red haired, highly charismatic, heck Nasuverse Iskandar pretty much have all the descriptions of real world Genghis Khan. Originally nasuverse Iskandar would have Gilgamesh's personality but Nasu liked how Urobutchi wrote Iskandar that he used that as how he was percieved in all fate media.
Lincoln Beckett-Scott That's because they've been summoned as different classes, Cu is a Caster and Medusa is a Lancer
I took mythology in high school and we learned a similar but very different story. Like Gilgamesh was never a terrible king but did sleep around. We were told that Enkidu was made from water and clay to rival Gilgamesh but he wasn't a clay man, he had flesh and blood just like Gilgamesh. When news of Enkidu running around in the wild got back to Gilgamesh he decided to have him seduced by this women. After Enkidu was seduced his animal friends would run away from him because he was no longer pure, starting the beef between Gilgamesh and Enkidu. They fought but neither could win so they became best buds and started ganking gods together. They built some giant door and Enkidu received capital punishment for it, prompting Gilgamesh's existential crisis and pursuit of immortality.
Update: I should've just watched the rest of the video he tells us its "Fates" mythology, not the real one.
"All he did was collect treasures, sleep with women, and fight beasts to protect Uruk..."
Sounds like my kind of life, dude.
So you are a bully
You steal stationary , you disrespect waman and protect your lunch from fat bois
@@dontknowmyname8896 If that's what you got out of this, then go for it. Nothing really else to say to you. Have a wonderful day.
@@therealneal3034 peace is for the weak.
@@vushasenakingofallzasshus6089 😐
@@vushasenakingofallzasshus6089 lmao Peace is a lot harder lol
Damn his backstory is deeper than I've anticipated
For all you mongrels saying there are servants stronger than Gilgamesh you're wrong. The creator himself said Gilgamesh is the strongest servant.
Prove it
that was before fgo gave us like 500 billion new servents
Yes he is everyone one of his blades is a noble Phantasm
@@mightyshady1016 all you have to do is go to his stats on wiki fate
@@mightyshady1016 No, YOU prove he is not. When the author of the series states it as such then the burden of proof is on you princess.
Gilgamesh is also half human
Therefore he is the king of mongrels
Fool! The word mongrel is not just limited to humans. Gilgamesh uses it to address anyone who is below him. And you mongrel got another thing wrong. Gilgamesh is 2/3 god and 1/3 human. But it does not really matter if he is human or god, he is still superior to all of you mongrels!
*Achilles coughs in the background while spinning his Ea-countering anti-world Noble Phantasm on his finger*
Some Guy Enuma Elish can destroy Akhilleus Kosmos. While he may be able to block the first strike, one more and he’s dead.
Some Guy again EA is an anti world Noble phantasim, Achilles' Akhilleus Kosmos is a noble phantasim that creates a world, it will destroy it and Achilles
Pecu Alex no Kosmos is weak to anti world noble phantasims EA will delete it along with Achilles
Gil being so damn arrogant is perhaps the best thing about his character to me, he loses a lot because of it, but it's still funny to see him call somebody a mongrel and knowing the only way most of them can beat him is if he allows it to happen.
It also helps when you see him pull the key out to grab EA and the basic reaction from everybody is "what the fuck is that thing?!"
Gilgamesh beats Alucard , there is no comparisson.
Gilgamesh have grails , concept weapons , anti-divinity items and even something that could destroy Earth.
There is a low amount of Heroic Sprits that have the same level as him or can actually counter him , mostly of them are Grand Servants , Enkidou , Hercules (not-Berserk), Karna and Saviors.
You know he is OP when it needs a Savior , which consists of Jesus , Buddha and whatnot , to fight him.
@@phantasosxgames8488 well, alucard pretty much becomes unkillable in the end of the anime. Like, even if you manage to wipe him out of existence he would just need to imagine himself somewhere and he would appear.
But im guessing Gil has a weapon somwhere in that god damn treasury that nullifies that, cause its fking Gil.
(those two are both my favorite characters btw)
Well , Alucard's unkillable power comes from a soul , so any attack that inflicts the soul could be potentically powerful against him.
Futhermore , like you said , Gil probably had a treasure that nullifies that. This guy pull off a treasure to beat Buddha's attack , which was a ray that is as powerful as humanity's knowledge.
@@phantasosxgames8488 a fine explanation received from you as always :)
Also, if i may ask where does the fight between Gil and Budha happen, and what did Gil use to block that attack?
He's such a snacc that Sakura literally took a bite out of him.
Hype for Fate/GO: Babylonia!!
Donnerkreuz of the End
Now that’s what I’m talking about!
Fcuk yeahhh
Yeah boi it's gonna be lit
May i ask what that is?
@@ash8329 A new TV Anime airing 2019
This is kinda why Caster Gilgamesh is much cooler than Archer imo, Archer Gilgamesh was summoned in a form before he went on his journey for immortality while Caster Gilgamesh is him after this journey, it's kinda much cooler
Caster Gilgamesh is the Wise King of Uruk after his journey, he along with Proto Gil are the more realistic version of the real gilgamesh. But if Gil were to be like Proto+Caster, he would be unstoppable and as this series need love to win, they wouldn't dare to make him this way, otherwise he will just spam EA in 0.5 sec.
It's true , Bryan.
That been said , Fate Prototype do exist in Nasu Multiverse and Proto Gil had a different wild card.
Proto Gil have GoB , but more limited , he is primarily a fighter (in short , he fights like Archer EMIYA) , while his Enuma Elish is a diluve.
That been said , Proto Saber Arthur had a more powerful version of Excalibur. It works with seals , by breaking the seals , his shot is stronger , but consumes more and takes more time.
While is true that Proto Gil's Bab-Ilu (GoB) is more limited (10 golden orbs) is better for melee combat, at difference of Archer Gil whose GoB works in a more static way (stand and shot at long range). Proto Gil fights more like Emiya Shirou (UBW - Shirou vs. Gil) than Archer EMIYA, EMIYA uses multiple weapons to fight (swords, shields, bows, etc.) but he rarely will spam them like Shirou in his fight against Gil.
Proto Gil like Proto Arthur are more faithful to their original legends, so he is no a owner like Archer Gil but a Grand Master (and demigod), he defeats Proto Arthur in melee combat (I'm not sure if in Protoverse Heroic Spirit's parameters and skills are still limited by the classes. Proto Berserk gives low info) but is defeated in their clash of NP, as you stated Proto Arthur's NP is stronger.
Not even one of the enemies of Proto Arthur are in the same league of Proto Gil, he is the original Hercules, fighting epic monsters, gigants, divine beasts, etc. not having EA nor Enki (Enki manifestation of his legend not a weapon he had in his life like Vlad Dracul's Vampire Form) but just normal weapons and a good fella.
Bab-ilu is much faster than the GoB btw
And the NP of proto gil is the great flood, that's also OP
Daffa Alfayedh Faster? Based on what? IIRC firing rate of both were never stated, but as Archer Gil can open the whole gate/more golden orbs he could shoot more weapons per second. Sacrificing movility for attack power.
Proto Excaliblast is more OP. Yet not as insanely OP as Enuma Elish that shit is broken as fuck.
When you called her a thot I seriously died of laugher please put some flowers by my headstone
He prefers "a noble maiden", "a virgin", and "a flower that blooms
That's what the wiki says
Short answer: Gil is the “strongest hero”, who always gets killed by a lesser servant.
He has to lose somehow. Though it was strange seeing him take damage in ubw. He went through zero and all of ubw without even breaking a sweat, only to lose to shirou.
@@unknowingreaper6556 Well he didn't had a master so no extra mana. He didn't had his armor so basically he can take normal damage (servant wise) and well.. his arrogance so he was also holding back so that's kinda the only way he did lose.
i guess being the strongest in this scenario is his disadvantage. it's hard to make a story interesting if the person who is the strongest from the start wins the last fight (with a few exceptions ofc)
@@hamtaru Gilgamesh = every boss in rpg games. They could have killed you when ur lvl 1 but they dont lol. Just like gilgamesh can use EA from the start but wont use it.
Because is a lazy bum whose main tactict is to throw things at people.
Gilgamesh and Enkidu friendship is similar to that of Alexander the Great and Hephaestion. Despite sleeping with countless women, historians have been hinting that Alaxander and Hephaestion could be more than childhood besties/battle combat/ruler-general. They're also lovers.
I remember that the Epic portrayed them kissing and holding hand. Lmao.
@@cynt4416 when LGBTQ fanboys become Historians
W*men are for sex, men are for true love.
Roommates
I keep seeing people mention Archer Gilgamesh vs Caster Gil, and I am sitting here like. "Where do I even start..?" I've only watched Fate/UBW
Well the one that appears in Unlimited Blade Works is the Archer variation (summoned from before his encounter with the snake) and also appears in the other continuities of Stay Night and Heaven's Feel (though not all the movies are out for this.) If you really want to see Gil at, what I consider, his best you should pick up Fate/zero. It's the same studio that animated Unlimited Blade Works and is a prequel of sheer badassery.
As for the Caster variation I *think* he's only in Fate Grand Order in a specific arc
pathetic request lol that gilgamesh is himself so its impossible
Fun fact for me. Before I ever watched Fate/Stay Night, I read about Gilgamesh in college and that great story. When I understood the concept of Fate/Stay night and the whole Fate series, my mind was blown.
When you realize Gilgamesh is a servant with countless noble phantasms, a murderous attitude and the temperament of a toddler who doesn’t want to share his toys...
I absolutely love him in Fate/Extra CCC he treats you like trash but still cares for you, not to mention his narcissism in treating you like entertainment.
Do you have an English patch for the game?
+Saber Euphemia No patch exists
Despite me already knowing his story, i was still hooked. Great video and this will help plenty of people.
03:04 something that should be noticed is that the concept of a hero being a kind person is quite modern, the concept of hero that is presented in the Fate series is the "classic" one seen in greek myth (in that case, Hero = A person that is exceptional or capable of exceptional deeds), that is also why is possible to summon servants considered "evil" from the throne of heroes (Vlad the III was made known specifically by his "exceptional demonstration of brutality" for example)
This shows that there is wisdom in ancient stories. a story that is atleast 4.000 years old teaches us that its not the destination that holds the most value, its the journey and how it makes you grow that matters most and that working towards something is the fuel of life.
So in short: "The circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant. It's what you do with the gift of life that determines who we are"
For once, I want to see Gilgamesh win a Holy Grail Wat.
In fate/zero him and kirei technically won the war
3:06 he bullied the throne of heroes into letting him
Great job explaining
Bruh for any of you who are in highschool atm my dude just explained the entire book in short , so when a teacher asks you better be ready.
I know its probably just my inner fangirl who is talking, but I always saw Gil as a good being. His child version and adult version are so kind and responsible, they do have his sadism but no one can deny that they are both good.
So i just see Archer Gil as a teenager who hasn't matured and is overwhelmed by both of his hormones and magical power. If I'm not wrong, Gil's body is mortal, human, however his powers are ones of a god, that's why, as his power developped, he had a "teenager crisis" as his godly side was overwhelming his human side. As said in the video, gods have a different perspective of things, for him, rape, murder or any of his horrible actions are normal.
Later on, I think that the fight against Enkidu has drained most of the power/magic he had, allowing him to regain control over his action and see things more clearly.
It would explain the sudden change in his behavior, and him suddenly caring for the people he had hurt.
Moreover, mabe Enkidu wasn't send just to kill Gil, but instead to kill the god part of Gil, to drain or turn off that part.
In my point of view, after fate ccc and babylonia' singularity (fate go), I see Gil ( the real one) as someone who trully loves his people and humanity in general, he ma be rude, but he always show that he cares. Also, see how he only call some people "mongrels" and not others, I believe he only call "mongrels" human that are weak, that doesn't have the courage to do something and change their destiny, or find their prupose in their lifes.
I love how Karna just goes "excuse me"
He can't beat gilgamesh though so i don't know what he's talking about
@@krs1297 Karna is widely known as one of the (very few) strongest servants who are capable of matching Gilgamesh in a fight
@@krs1297 Karna could take him.
It took plot armour to take both of em down so that kinda makes em equals huh xD
@@krs1297 Karna summoned as a rider legit ends universes. Karna in all summons is always limited by his master's too small magic reserves, which is why Karna used his NP only after he had a Grail and another servant fueling his NP. Gil is ok, but in manga even Gil in his arrogance is hesitant to tangle with Karna.
@@jerryknudsen7898 I thought Karna's best class was Archer. He was so good, even Arjuna was inferior to him in several aspects. He could even put Heracles to shame
Gil is a character who I can see unironically doing the “KONO DIO DA” face
Him laughing off that loss IS him going insane.
His version of insanity is rationality.
Because he was mostly god.
You just earned yourself a sub. I rather enjoy this video format and there aren't many Fate channels around. Can't wait to see the next part.
I liked Gilgamesh the moment I heard of the version of him from Fate. I like him even more now that I have seen your video about his legend from the Fate series.
I don’t know why, but Gilgamesh is the best and my favorite anime character
cuz he hawt
what anime it is?
@@jaydev8148 fate series
Can we have a Gilgamesh and enkidu story and see it from the beginning to the end. I would love to see his story of ups and downs in real time snd thr greatest battle having Gilgamesh actually go all out and beat the gods.
Maybe in the new Fate Grand order series covering the babylon arc we might get it
@@AniNews i hope so. We need this story
Its kinda covered on Strange/Fake
@@angelswarz8995 I was gonna read that later this week. i guess ill enjoy it more noe
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3:06 About how Gilgamesh became a hero, it's the antique concept of hero: an extraordinary warrior, not necesary tied to morality. Although, I know this concept of a person that acomplishes something outstanding and it's remember by humanity as such
I need me an anime where gil Is summoned as the good guy
Go watch Fate/Grand Order babylonia chapter
@@kingofdisaster7 where can you find it?
Bruh, how much more fates do you need, isn’t it already confusing as is
@@ascendingmofo2943 it aint confusing its confusing when you over think it as confusing
@@aise4081 true
I always thought it funny that Gilgamesh looks more like Alexander the Great and Rider aka Alexander the Great looks more like Gilgamesh 🤣🤣🤣
True LMAO
Gilgamesh story itself could be a best series if there any adaptation of it.... He's my fav servant despite his arrogance, glad im having both of gil version in my chaldea
You should also say that the time period affects Gilgamesh's personality.
It's so weird that you didn't know about Gilgamesh before Fate, I don't know about other countries but in Italy Gilgamesh's Poem is one of, if not the first, literature topic that is taught at school, since it's the oldest epic poem we have knowledge about
Worth noting that this is Fate Lore, which is a tad different from The Epic of Gilgamesh.
In this video, it’s hard to distinguish where the narrator is referencing the actual Epic itself and Fate lore, beginning with referring to Gilgamesh as 2/3 god and 1/3 human. That’s from The Epic. Fate Gilgamesh is 1/2 human, 1/2 god.
In The Epic of Gilgamesh, Gilgamesh didn't declare Enkidu his only friend.
In The Epic of Gilgamesh, the only reason that Gilgamesh (and mankind) didn't become immortal was that the Herb of Immortality that he had obtained was eaten by a snake. But in Fate, Gilgamesh "went back and obtained the Herb of Immortality again just for the sake of collection but didn't use it".
What is fate / lore I've never heard of that one is it an anime or just a video game?
@@joshuamorgan1878 The Fate franchise began with the visual novel Fate/Stay Night by Kinoko Nasu, which was based in the fictional multiverse (Nasuverse) of his previous works such as tsukihime.
The Fate franchise gained immense popularity which led to the creation of it's anime and multiple spin-off titles and games under similar names.
Most of the Fate series are unrelated to one another, but they all have in common the plot device of 'servants' which are incarnations of famous 'heroic spirits' in human history.
The Fate franchise obtained it's popularity from its remarkable world-building which has become so elaborate and large that it rivals Tolkien's fictional universe.
@@joshuamorgan1878 lore is fictional history it's the history of the fantasy world
In the past, being a hero has nothing to do with kindness. It has more to do with acquiring Glory and Prestige through war. Maybe there are other methods apart from wars... but this is the most popular.
“... he felt a sense of pride and accomplishment”
So that’s where EA got that phrase from
... mongrel
The Myths and Legends podcast tells his story and how he became a hero in episode 54A-Gilgamesh: Did We Just Become Best Friends?
The story you say in this video matches up almost exactly.
Gilgamesh, the first anti THOT force
Eagerly awaiting part 2 keep up the good work man
Great Video!!! Thank you for the look into Gilgamesh
That was beautiful!😢
Well I still feel so bad for Gilgamesh everytime I remember Endiku's death 〒_〒
Who else thinks it would be awesome if the main hero’s in the series got their own spinoffs that tells the story of how exactly they became heroic spirit in the fate series. Like entire spinoffs of the hero in their own lore with each series ending with them becoming servants.
Such a fascinating character. Thank you for making this!
I absolutely love your character explanation man. Specially this one. You describe the characters so nicely and explain the lore so well! While some other youtubers explain the lore and then spoils so many things without a single warning. I would love to see you make some lore videos about fate characters (fgo servants) and I'm sure I am not the only one who would love to see it. I really hope you will make more fate related lore videos in the future :(
I was ok with this video until i saw the clip where gilgamesh slit my waifu illya's eyes. Nice going there
@Justin Dolliver actually she is 18 during Fate/Stay night
@@ragnathebloodedge6838 ye it was like 10 - 20 year time skip from fate zero pretty nice
“I’ve never heard of him”
Me: bruh have you been to school
I've heard of him but not from school
Where's the anime scenes from (not Fate: Stay Night, but the Gil backstories and Ishtar scenes) and the manga?
All the parallels of the original story with the Babylonia Story of F/go, awesome.
Thanks for creating that video, really interesting!
happy i found your channel... thanks for explaining all the histories of the Heros'
If Gilgamesh was serious he would have won all holy grail within a week
あかし not even that. I’ll give a day at most
Only because others demigod was nerf so much.
Nasu said that he would have won all wars in a day
Tuấn Cường Nghiêm you do know that all beings with divinity are practically guaranteed to lose to Gil. Not only does Gil hate them. I mean he really does, but Enkidu(his chain) also becomes stronger the higher the divinity of the being it is used against. So the Demi-gods that you say that has been nerfed so much would all get destroyed.
Lord Escanor
I will said more advantage but not a guaranteed win
If he face Quetz in Babylon, who has EX rank Divinity, it doenst stop her to beat Gilgamesh and his chain because one of her noble phantasm has an ability to seal her opponent np (plus she has immunity to Good allignment servant in babylon)
So, the man has permanent access to a treasure vault, but he decided to place the plant of immortality in the ground before taking a bath... genius move buddy.
What the fuck is Enkidu doing here!!! It was a just a joke, please let me go, let me got , NOOOO!!! (Sound of a neck breaking in pieces)
He have alway been portrayed as having -999 INT. lol.
Greeting citizens, as someone versed in the original Epic, but having little knowledge of Fate's interpretation/twisting of the Epic, it is a fascinating ordeal to compare them one on one.
Hail to the Empire.
3:07 The word hero is a misnomer. The translation for the word used in the original japanese Enkei translates to "Legendary Spirit" Plus the grail allows for "anti-heroes" to be summoned to it would make sense for him to be summoned anyway.
Been waiting for this. Well done mate
I dont like how u said "Higher quality videos" at the end when ur the highest of them all my dude
Gilgamesh!!
Also nice video
Watching my first 'Fate' video other than just watching 'Overlord' in order to support your channel❤️
lol same. But I am interested in fate but don't know how to start watching
Yep, I feel you. Just need a Timeline of what to watch in order.
Well then. Adding that to my to do list XD. Gimme like two weeks to make something up haha
If watching in the order of release =fate stay night -> Fate zero -> fate stay night(UBW)(similar to stay night but a little different)-> then the movie i heavens feel
if want to follow the timeline from start then fate zero should be watched first
fate apocrypha doesn't relate to the above ones so its kind
The logical start and chronologically first in the Nasu timeline is Fate/Zero. *I RECOMMEND YOU SAVE IT FOR LAST THOUGH* , it does not explain many of the complicated elements of the setting. It's by the Urobutcher, depending on your disposition I'd say to bring lots of tissues or popcorn.
From here on out it gets a bit complicated. Studio Deen's Fate/Stay Night is not an accurate adaptation of the visual novel, it mix-and-matches elements of all of the routes. But it is also the only available anime adaptation of the Fate route.
Unlimited Blade Works, the second route of three, is available as a Movie and a 26 episode anime (plus an OVA) and I recommend going with the anime as it has more time to flesh it all out.
The third and final route, Heavens Feel, is a series of three movies of which only the first, Presage Flowers, is currently out.
Emiya-san Chi kyou no Gohan is optional. It's a light-hearted cooking show and I don't quite know how it fits into the timeline.
Carnival Phantasm is absolutely not canon. It's pure cracky slapstick comedy. It also features characters from Type-Moon's other visual novel, Tsukihime ( *WHICH DOES NOT HAVE AN ANIME ADAPTATION!* , anyone who tells you otherwise is a liar).
There's also a sequel VN which as of right now doesn't have any planned anime adaptation, Fate/Hollow Ataraxia.
There are also other anime and OVAs such as Fate/Extra: Last Encore, Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya (three seasons and a movie), multiple Fate/Grand Order OVAs, but they all take place in alternate universes/timelines. Last Encore does not work at all if you haven't played its game, Fate/Extra for the PSP.
I read gilgamesh's original story when i first finished fate zero. I found it to be one of the more interesting one of the carracters in the franchise. Also, I loved enkidous character and now that i've seen an anime version of him, love him even more.
I just discoverd this channel, you make some pretty cool stuff here. I like those kind of lore videos.
God I love Gilgamesh so much. He's such an asshole, but the type that can back up his arrogance to the point that it's really not arrogance, because he's not overly confident if he can sever the bonds of space and time with Ea, it's just accurate.
Yeah well, if he failed then that mean he can't backed up his arrogant. It's kinda obvious.
Well usually arrogant characters are shown to be underwhelming in most anime series, but he's considered by Type-Moon to be the strongest, only beaten because he didn't take the fight seriously.
Eh no. Nasu was talking about the original FSN only. In FGO, there are many stronger than Gil. And there is Enkidu who destinied to be equal to Gil. Just this fact alone disproved the myth of Gil being strongest, as strongest mean he has no equal.
Tuấn Cường Nghiêm I was unaware of that. Thank you for informing me!
when anime actually helps you with your history homework
Yo!! Some respect for gilgamesh! I love his backstory about his friend and adventures!
And this is exactly why gilgamesh is my favorite servant even tough he is an arrogant asshole he is an honest arrogant asshole who is brutal to his enemies he is the first king and flaunts it he is the perfect king.
It is because of 2 things, 1 a king must never show mercy too his enemies which he does not and 2 a king must always be proud of his accomplishments. He shows what a king is meant to be.
In this manner gilgamesh and iskandar are actually quite similar they both show no mercy too their enemies and are wise about life in fact id dare say that gilgamesh might see a bit of himself in iskandar.
Iskandar was basically following gilgamesh footsteps in wishing to conquer the world but never succeded while gilgamesh did succed while gaining all the worlds treasure's. tough there are quite a few differances with them they both share the same core of a king.
Wow this went far longer then I tought it would im stopping this now before I never stop and cause a writing comment of around 1000 words if not more.
holy shit this was damn fascinating, now I understand why Tokiomi Tohsaka used a shed snakes skin as a catalyst to summon Gil, also, this lore made me appreciate Gils character so much more.
I know right. Problem was, the more I appreciate Gil's character in the Epic, the more I abhor how Fate destroyed his character so badly. From the pure represent of human man psych to a shallow shell of walking ego ridden with plot armor and cringe af wanking.
@@cynt4416 go watch fare grand order babylonia, you can find a more relaxed Gilgamesh (after he lost the elixir and his friend)
Ah man I just watched my boy kill Illya earlier on my rewatch, I did not need that feels train slamming into me yet again today
For me the arrogant gil in zero and stay night is still very badass.
Ani news is learning emotions 0:27
I am so proud.😢😢😭
From now on, he won't be called emotionless bot anymore.😭😭😭🤧
Imagine Fate Gilgamesh, now imagine a being that even he can't even defeat solely on his powers only, that's how strong Fate Tiamat for ya.
This was some really amazing information 💯👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Me: *gives him a warhammer*
Gil: What is this?
Me: it's a warhammer, you *swing* it at people. Make sure you *S W I N G* it hard.
Gil: ......Imma just yeet it at a fool at mach 5.
Me: No don't throw it you're supposed to-
Gil: -mach 6?
Me:.....yes mach 6
Thanks for blessing my eyes with some casual background footage of Gil slaughtering a loli
Who knew a vegetarian snake was the key to the species evolution and prosperity over time lol. Thanks gil
Work worthy of a ruler good job and can't wait for the next videi
Fun fact: the artistic models in this video used to show the sun god and Humbaba are actually depictions of the god Marduk and the mother of the gods, Tiamat. Older story, though it has its influences in the mythology of the Epic of Gilgamesh.
12:00 I really don't like that since snakes are carnivores, not herbivores
Ma boi Gilgamesh finally getting a video. Square up Mongrels
He went from being neutral to evil to good to neutral
Actually his treatment is chaotic good
@@aldo_aldopr Doesn't make any sense if you ask me.
Thx for reviewing my favorite fate character ♥
For those who are guilty about Enkidu/Gil killing Humbaba, she went insane by the time Enkidu and Gil arrived in the forest.
imma be real Gilgamesh losing the herb by laying it down on the ground stairght up made me be more carefull of theives.