Air Venturi Avenger 22 Cal - Pellet Test
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- Testing different pellets in my Air Venturi Avenger 22 cal from Pyramyd Air.
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Air Venturi Avenger 22 Cal - Pellet Test
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If you still have it set at the factory settings, I predict that none of them will do well and that the two heaviest pellOts (not bullOts) will stink. Chrono your pellets and find the ones that run about 880 to 900 feet per second at the muzzle. That is the sweet spot for long range shooting and you may have to adjust/tune the gun to get there. That is why those adjustments are so valuable to an airgun shooter. We can't "hand load" our pellets. The propulsion system is built into the gun and this gun lets you change it up, but most don't. It's similar to working up the best powder charge for a certain projectile in a muzzle loader. Now I'll watch and see if I'm right. I very glad you have taken an interest in our sport.
Just shoot those pell- lots and see which ones are best for that air gun
I use the FX 18.1 grain pellets and they go bout 880 to 890 and dime size groups at 50
@@kevinbalcer8957 That's what I would expect. Did you do any tuning to get that kind of velocity from a 18 grain pellet. My two Avengers did that with 15 grain pellets out of the box, but not with 18 gr pellets. Haven't tried the FX brand yet, but I do have about 45 styles and brands in .22 that I experiment with. Where are they made and do you know if they are just a re-branding of some other premium pellet producer?
This, give it more time with a broader selection and you can shoot even better than that. The further out I shoot tend to get more accurate with a lighter pellet.
JSB hades Diablo pellets are tack drivers when you tune it to about 875fps
I started my 22 cal at reg pressure 1600, and hammer spring all the way out, then turn it in one revolution. With the adjustability of the Avenger, there is more to fiddle with than just the pelet choices.
I have mindset at 3000 and I’m shooting the dome tips 50 yards hitting a spin target no problem I even hit my target at 100 yards not bull’s-eye but still
Love the videos. Really interesting for those of us that are new to airguns.
You need to shoot the JSB Diabolo 18.13 grain. You need to Chronograph them all. The sweet spot is 860 FPS to 920ish FPS. My dad shoots one hole groups with his Avenger with wood stock. I put a Hawke scope on his Avenger. The hades will shoot well also. If you want to shoot those heavy JSB’s you will need to crank up the air pressure and the hammer spring. The heaviest I would shoot out of that with pin point accuracy is the JSB Diabolo 25.39 grain redesign. Try those out. 😊
JSB Diablo hades is 15.39 grain isn't it?
I need to get a regulated airgun I've only ever had experience with some garbage GAMO rifles and was always disappointed
Good to see you're doing the pellet guns. I shoot mine everyday in the basement. I have steel targets out side at 10 20 30 40 50 75 100 125 and 150 yd.
Wow, 150 yards with air riffle?! How big should be target for that and what kind of air riffle you use?
How are you shooting 150 yards in your basement? You must be living in a mansion
As a rule of thumb the more exotic the pellet design the poorer it shoots. Go with simple round nose 16-20gr
Yup..i bought a GIODANNI .22. I LOKED it sooo much i ordered a 2nd one. They are awesome! I have an assortment of huntig pellets..but really like the punch of the tipped slugs. Blast on!
Man I really like them h&h rabbit magnums 22 air rifle round they mushroom out pretty good
The Seneca's with those driving band looked like they would do best.
Man that was a very fun video WTW
love the25 the.22not so much
I never had a BB or pellet gun , my friends tho . Went from shooting BB's and 22 shorts at Carnivals 22lr at summer camp to .410 and 20ga.
I'm going with the domed, the wadcutter domed, the funky looking pleasure ridge domed and then the jumbo in order of performance. Can't wait to see whats what BUT FIRST, shower time.
So, that would be Barracuda, Crow, Seneca and the jumbos. those 18 grains will fly nice, the 28 and 33 grains I don't know if they need more or less preasure. But they should be flying a lot slower at the same pressure.
Looks like it's Senecas
Crazy how different they all do
I know my walther terrus .22 loves the h&n barracuda's
You set that pellet Salinger nice dude good job
I know this will sound dumb but in my opinion the 22 cals are like 177 cal if the pellets aren't just right and in my experience the hollow tail makes a difference I'm nerding out and I'm sure you know all that stuff 😂
The cerakote work looks x nicely done.🤠
These air guns are cool, never seen anything about Walmart ones
You should try the Crossman premiere hollow points that Walmart sells.
They are very cheap too. I think you will be surprised by them
They're only good to 30 35 yards at best when hunting small game, not paper punching! These people hunt to live. You have to use heavier pellets hunting and pestings longer distances for energy/FPE
@@eddiecahall3824 hunt to live?
He's testing pellets ffs
@@JamesBond-oc4gm Yes they live to hunt/hunt to live so to speak.why do you think he's testing trying to find a heavy pellets to shoot squirrels small game with??? Clearly you don't know much about it. He even stated in the video about this! Crosman pellets in .22 usually aren't very heavy for longer ranges. Especially the ones you stated! They lose energy very quickly leaving the muzzle. FPE ratings are at the muzzle,not 30 or 40 yards where your target is lol how do I know so much you might ask? Because I own over 300 rifles and 40 yrs experience with chrony tests and logs! Have fun with urs! From Walmarts ! Sta sligin that sweet air rifle lead. Ed da pro snippin air man 💥💪😁
Get some javelins or h&n slugs 23 to 26 grains or the jsb knock out's mk2 and see videos on how to tune the rifle. You can also add a power plenum to the gun and make it shoot lights out and relative flat with the 26gr going at 1000fps. Either way if you tune the rifle is going to be a laser beam!!
Keep it up!
My favorite pellets is Crosman Premier Hollow Point
agree with the comments of john mony & others on playing around with reg pressure / sping pressure But one other thing to consider is were air venturi source there barrels from because they can be different sizes. for instance english/ american were made 5.5 mm while european [german/ chezc] barrels were made5.6 mm. in fact eley used to make two diferent sized.22 pellets to match
Hey there who tee who, was happy to see this video and quick mention of my comment 😊. Was sitting on the couch watching you tube, I realized I haven't gotten any notification??? I wanted to see if you had anymore follow up videos on you Avenger and bam I saw this one, nicely done. Appreciate it, keep it up and will be on the lookout 👍
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@@RedCornOutdoors 🙏🙏🙏 unfortunately it seems they do that a lot
Great shooting!
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Some of those pellets looked like they were keyholing, they don't look like they're travelling straight 🤷♂️
Great shootin’ as always!!
I didn't hear what your reg pressure is. If it's maxed out, you might be going supersonic, and that can degrade accuracy. Ideally, best accuracy is usually somewhere in the 850-900 fps ballpark. That ay they do not have to pass through transonic velocity.
Like I already told you before you won’t find the best accuracy with your avenger in .22 cal until you set the reg to 1800 psi and adjust the hammer/spring to reache between 850 to 890 fps with any domed shape pellets that are what the barrels of this airguns like the most. Try the exact JSB or FX 15.89, JSB Hades 15.89, JSB or FX 18 grains and the air arms Diabolo fields in 16 and 18 grains. This are the pellets this avengers like the most between 25 and 50 yards. Also this airguns oem mags in .22 cal are not the best, try to make some shots with the oem single tray and you would noticed and improvement in accuracy. This is why I use the aftermarket Carm magazines they increase their accuracy and helps to achieve tighter groups. A chronograph also helps a lot to achieve the best overall results. Good luck 👍😊
Crosman Premier 22 cal. Hollow Points are the best bang for the buck and accuracy! The pointed pellets not so good!
My friend try some jsb hades pellets. Have you done any fine tuning with your hammer and the pressure? One nice thing about the avenger is you can fine tune your rifle. I have a air Venturi avenger. I also have a Fx impact m3 30 caliber.
JSB domed is my pick.
The regulator on your Avenger might take a while (like shot up to 500 pellets) for it to be dialed in. Use the cheapest pellet. Then try your grouping again. Of course clean the barrel! 🙄
Thanks, I just ordered an avenger, and now I know to break it in with the crossman hollowpoints from walmart
Just add plenum en then you can shoot slugs very nicelyand also heavy pellets like the jsb 25.39gr redesigned . Also check your velocity for each projectile. You should get one hole at 50 yards easily. If no plenum, go for the 18.13 gr jsb pellets. They the best
Many guys are getting half inch. Also you should clean barrel before you shoot it to get the metal filing out and oil from making the rifling.
FX 18.1 grain pellets shoot awesome
Barrel needs to lead out. Once you find diameter the barrel likes-.217 .218 .219 and pressure setting, group will come together better. Easiest way it with slugs. Cycle already 300 rounds to lead barrel, won’t have near as many slingers.
JSB 13.43, 15.89, 18.13 grain is where I usually start, good luck!
Good stuff, keep up the good work!
Looks like you found a winner for your .22! Pretty cool!🇺🇲✝️🇺🇲
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You should get a sampler pack of jsb pellets. They come with different weight pellets with varying head diameters to find what works best with your set up. Another thing to look at is tuning down to lower speeds. Pellets can have some adverse affects like spiraling flight paths when when too fast. There are some decent videos of slow mo effects on pellets. Check em out. Overall it’s a fun experience finding what pellet runs best in your rifle.
The design of the Seneca is so different from the other pellets. I wonder if those modifications made the difference in the overall accuracy.
Hey man love the air rifle content I always wanted to try those Seneca pellets in a Benjamin 392 I had
Love the gun
I don’t have the Avenger, but have you tried the following pellets? H & N baracuda hunter (h.p.) & baracuda match heavies ( available in .551, .552 & .553 head sizes!)also with the JSB jumbo monsters & Redesigned monsters (25.39 gr.) H&N b. hunters are 18.20gr. while the baracuda match heavies are 21.14 gr. JSB & H & Ns’ are probably the best in consistency of shape & weights on any brand of pellets!
Very cool! Once this 1 MOA rifle is all dialed in it would be good to see it on a yard hunt!👍
different diameter head sizes may improve the grouping. I have an Air Arms S200 that groups badly with JSB Exact 4.51mm head, but groups really well with the 4.53mm head size version of same pellet. Also some pellets don't like going faster than say 880fps as they start spiralling. Slowing down the pellet speed can sometimes improve the accuracy too. JSB Exact does seem to be a great pellet. Even at just 780fps the holdover to 50 yards isn't that bad - second zero at 40 yards and use the mildots out to 55 yards (max on my range). With airgun hunting accuracy is the most important factor, more so that the weight of the pellet, so if you get a 15.89 Exact grouping better than the 28 grain Senecas, then that's the better pellet for your set up.
There are 4 brands of pellet worth considering, JSB (and the AA and Daystate pellets they manufacture too), H&N, RWS and Crosman.
You dont want pointed, hollowpoint, multi banded or any gimmicky stuff, just good long tail domes... everything else is less accurate, see what the FT (Field target) or HFT (Hunter Field Target) boys use.....use that.
40 years of experience telling you this
An unregulated rifle is more consistent through its "hotspot" string of shots than a regulated rifle (which gives you a longer string of fair consistency)
Venturi like a lot of budget rifles may give you a tack driver followed by a scattergun (and, indeed, seem to have.... I've had similar with Hatsan tbh)
Buy an Air Arms or Weihrauch and the scales will fall from your eyes lol
I can beat those groups freehand with my HW95 springer....so something is clearly off
If your PCP doesn't wear a Lothar Walther barrel you're in accuracy roulette
Try cleaning the bore, check at the muzzle for burrs, take off the muzzle thread cap if it has one, remove the barrel shroud etc, check barrel tightness...or looseness.
Somethings amiss when the only bird you'll bring down is a tin one at the fair.
I've watched guys at my HFT club put 10, literally on top of each other at 50 yards, benched. And the sport of HFT requires you to hit half inch targets, freehand, outside out to 25 yards and inch targets out to 60 yards.
You'd be better off throwing the rifle lol.
I was alao thinking I get better group's with my 30 year old TX200, currently working through a tin of AA field target I found in my garage, looking at the price they must have been there about 12 years.
As you are in America your ftlb will be quite high, my brocock is running at 46 ftlb, and pellets start to oscillate, so for the best accuracy it's best to use slugs, my girl loves JSB knockout in 22, at 25.39gn, I shot a Pheasant at 162m (177) yards recently, so try them out, and also try the H&N sample packs, keep up the good work
Try the Hades and JSB monsters!!!! I prefer the .177 but I own 2 Weihrauch 110"s one in .177 and one in .22. The .177 likes the JSB Monsters at 13.43 grains and the .22 loves the hades at 16 grains. Your Barrel needs to break in period, so shoot two three hundred pellets to smooth it out. Don't clean it!
Crosman makes a 19 gr that is great.
Also gun will shoot better after 1500 or so shots. Rifling needs to wear in a bit. Shoot them and fill the.often. And don't be shy to clean barrel and try crosman walmart .22 cp hollow points. Set gun to 25 fpe.
In Australia 🇦🇺airguns are classified as a rifle so you have to have gun license
That sucks, in the UK you have to have license for anything above 12lbs power (not sure why they picked that number) thank God I live in the USA
In all of my testing with .22cal pcps(wish I still had one and didn’t sell them all 😢) . If you don’t shoot the 18.13gr JSB’s, 18.13gr Air Arms(same pellet), 15.89 JSB, 18.13 H&N Barracuda, and the 21.14gr H&N Barracuda Match 5.52 head size. One of or multiples of those will shoot well in almost all rifles
have same air gun its 2 best pellets no matter how i tune it are jsb 25.39 redesigned and crosman hollow point 14.3 cant get it to shoot slugs at all
Testing is the only way to find out. You should try JSB Monster redesign 25.5grain. And also they like H&N 23/25 grain slugs in .218. Best of luck, Good Video!!
I thought you would try the jsb 25.39's, then you would've had 3 .50" groups!
The more you shoot it the better it will do air rifles like to have the barrels "seasoned" it should do better and better
crosman premier domes are as accurate as anything in my avenger out to 75 yds. reg set at 2100 , hammer spring dead middle .
jsb 15 do well as well as HN 14 also do well at this setting . 18 also work on this tune. it also shoots HN slug hp really well too at 21 grains there is little change in hold
That is a beautiful air Gun!! It’s nice!!👍👍👍👍💯💯💯💯
It really seems like pcp is the way to go with air rifles. I got out of the break barrel air rifles and decided to get drop in conversion cylinders with cap and ball revolvers and bought me an Uberti 1858 new model army revolver in .44 caliber blued steel frame with 8 inch barrel 6 months ago and at the same time I bought me a Howell fluted .45 colt drop in cartridge conversion cylinder for it that fits it great along with a couple of boxes of HSM .45 colt 200 grain cowboy loads and this past fall I took it out shooting a few times and put my first box of ammo through it and posted a video I made on my channel of my most recent shooting session with it over 2 months ago. I hit better with it from about 10 to 12 yards shooting at 3 liter water jugs but as the video shows from 15 to 18 yards I fired 20 shots at a small cantaloupe and managed to hit it a handful of times
I couldn't even tell which cross you were aiming on most of these. I like your 25 caliber much better.
Ok i’m buying one…
Is your .25 cal just a unicorn or do all the .25 avengers shoot that amazing. 🎉🎉🎉
Since you didn’t say; I’ll assume you have that rifle at stock settings. You was slinging heavy pellets and I’ve been told most pellets like 850 to 925 ft/s. Add air pressure and hammer spring.
Try some Crosman 14.3 pellets just curious what they do. Walmarts.. 22cal.
I predict Seneca for the win
The barracuda are devastating on starlings.
I am in Canada and I had a lot of pellet guns and rifles growing up they are a lot of fun. Even with my 30-06 270 and my 12 gauge I still use pellet guns once in awhile for planking way cheaper and still fun. Keep up the great content WTW.
Best sir nice to find your yt channel love I thx. Can you give some advice what do you recommend for small hunting with air rifle price quality wish and can find on piramide air ?
Keep on doing the good work
You want that gun to shoot in .22 short velocity are lower with those heavy Senica pellets .
Try Crossman there cheap but work good. Aloha
I mentioned in another video that I liked those Seneca pellets.
When you go out to shoot..oil the barrel. It will help..really,,try it boss.
Please chronograph them...
Try some JSB pellets 🤙🏼🇳🇿
Premier hollow points are the most accurate
I use the Hades and use cheap ol Crossman Premier domes (walmart purchase) as they shoot the same. I put 10 shots inside a coke can circle from 40 yards, shoulda measured but it was practice with the new rifle AND it's with springer. I bet I'm slinging them slower then your PCP. Did you measure the pellet speed yet? Go over supersonic and it gets crazy. Don't have to worry about that with my springer. I've talked too much cuzz you're playin with some of the stuff I have. Kinda Exciting, thanks WTW.
You MUST try the JSB 15.89 Hades. You might also do better tuning the regulator and Hammer spring so that the velocity is in the 880 FPS area, but again, that is what testing is for. Another rule of thumb that seems to work, at least for my 22 Umarex Origin(which is VERY similar, much like an unregulated version of this avenger): if the regulator pressure is set higher(or i my case, if the air tank is filled to near max PSI), use higher HS adjustments. If the pressure is lower, turn the HS out(counter clockwise), maybe all the way out. Just stuff for you to play with. I'm pretty sure you can get MUCH smaller groups than you have been getting, particularly with those JSB pellets. You must have lucked out with the factory settings of your 25 cal, at least for whatever pellets gave you .3" groups. I don't think .3" 50 yd groups are at all unusual for this gun, but sometimes it takes some tuning both to find the best pellet AND to get the gun adjusted best for THAT pellet. Keep it up, love your testing!
I didnt think that changing a bullet brand or weight would change the point of aim on my rifle much.... BOY WAS I WRONG..... i hit LOW LOW on the deer i got this year and it was not pretty
My bets on the barracuda hunter extremes
Edit: I was very wrong
Maybe the 22 is a 25 yard gun but that black 25 cal is sweet just sayin
👍😊 pretty good .
im telling you , get yourself some hades pellets!
Who-tee, how windy was it at the range? It’s strange that the groups vary so much with the same ammo.
You may need to brush your bore looked like you got some chunks coming out with them be well peace
JSB 18.13 @880 FPS... you´re welcome.
three shot groups dont count in air rifles , almost always 5 , maybe even 10. that will give you the real tale of the tape.
Have you tried slugs?
Super penetration. Some decent ones made in Australia. Pyramid Air might have them. IDK.
You need to tune the gun for pellet. That were not so good groups. Shoot at home. Its an airgun.
I would use that gun with a power tune in .25 cal. to hunt pigs . I have killed 100 lbs. to 120 lbs. hogs with a .25 cal. air rifle .
How about air rifle through milk jugs
W-T-W how is your air compressor holding up?
Zero problems
When they ship these rifles, they are not in any way tuned..you won't get the best accuracy, and definitely not the best shot count. I'd suggest looking at AEAC on UA-cam video on this gun, very, VERY thorough on how to tune the gun and the ins and outs of it. The gun should be shooting 1-1.5" groups at 100 yards honestly. It looks like the pellets are tumbling for some reason 🤔 I'd definitely shoot over a chrony and figure out what velocity you're at..
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Can you still use the multi shot magazine with the scope mounted?
Yes
You need to slow down your rifle . Around 800 to 900 fps will make them more accurate .
If it doesn't like H&N Barracuda or JSB 16 or 18s or JSB beast, its no good. Korean domes are good too. Everything else is a gimmick.
Try jsb 18.13 at 880 to 920 fps you will thank me later.