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КОМЕНТАРІ • 881

  • @ziggy-pk8zz
    @ziggy-pk8zz Рік тому +3752

    I love seeing two spies talk

    • @77Supafly777
      @77Supafly777 Рік тому +143

      Stellar comment

    • @Scrilla01
      @Scrilla01 Рік тому +201

      lmao....I was thinking the other day what if this trip for Lex to Ukraine/Russia was just his move to exit the US cause its getting hot lol

    • @lennoxrass9071
      @lennoxrass9071 Рік тому +16

      hahaha yea best one yet

    • @DJKrol-pv8ft
      @DJKrol-pv8ft Рік тому +118

      Watching two spies talk on a Spy network propaganda machine

    • @michaelumphlettee7054
      @michaelumphlettee7054 Рік тому +1

      Lol

  • @BobbyBigallo
    @BobbyBigallo Рік тому +404

    Lex is great at letting his guest tell a story without interrupting them. Awesome.

    • @nickkuiper32
      @nickkuiper32 Рік тому +3

      He is very calm in his mind (at least so it appears), that is something a lot of interviewers/hosts lack. More often then not the host will make it too much "his" show.

    • @Chipsandsalsa183
      @Chipsandsalsa183 Рік тому +7

      Honestly hes gotta be one of the best hosts ever.

    • @mikemiller659
      @mikemiller659 Рік тому

      @@Chipsandsalsa183 ???

    • @nigo8159
      @nigo8159 Рік тому +2

      Dude in fucking great storyteller how you gon give all the credit to lex 😂

    • @elijahmasquelier1238
      @elijahmasquelier1238 Рік тому +1

      He really is a fantastic interviewer. A good interviewer has to know when to talk and what to ask, but much more importantly, when not to talk and just let the guest guide the conversation. He does both of these very well; that’s why I and many love his podcast.

  • @swasho2939
    @swasho2939 Рік тому +1639

    Finally a real interview with a former spy. Love Joe, but there's only so much Mike Baker I can take

    • @pinchnloaf
      @pinchnloaf Рік тому

      Mike baker friggin sucks

    • @BH-gh6qm
      @BH-gh6qm Рік тому

      This guy takes wayyyy too long to say absolutely nothing. boring as fuck, its like an interview with biden . hes lost it

    • @kylehoutby7
      @kylehoutby7 Рік тому +63

      Last word should be "fake"

    • @lulumoon6942
      @lulumoon6942 Рік тому +162

      Any Mike Baker is too much. Low level car salesmen BS artist.

    • @pt190
      @pt190 Рік тому +12

      Yea he’s become to mainstream at this point. There’s always a few

  • @omaryohan7694
    @omaryohan7694 Рік тому +336

    Consistently some of the best interviewees.

    • @thelucienleighton
      @thelucienleighton Рік тому

      fuck cnn lol

    • @sealife564
      @sealife564 Рік тому +9

      How does Lex know/find these people? Just such a wide , great variety.

    • @mrblack9791
      @mrblack9791 Рік тому

      look listen i do not know

    • @VincitOmniaVeritas7
      @VincitOmniaVeritas7 Рік тому +1

      The ape expert wasn’t great when he tried to translate his observations to humans.

  • @anFy81
    @anFy81 Рік тому +61

    the red dot
    that's some movie material right there

  • @distant4766
    @distant4766 Рік тому +24

    First time watcher. If this is how business is conducted then I'm gonna keep watching. Letting a person just speak and not interrupting. Most folks are just waiting to speak. This is uncut without reaction or interference. 1 love bruv.

  • @michaelhenry8890
    @michaelhenry8890 Рік тому +154

    “One day my wife and I got into a terrible fight and I chose to deploy the nuclear option.”
    Been there comrade. A lot of us have.

  • @doomfanboy9413
    @doomfanboy9413 Рік тому +90

    that laugh after he hinted at the agent taking half of his life savings lmao he would of done the same shit if it was him.

    • @delavan9141
      @delavan9141 Рік тому +22

      He was laughing at the corruption that permeated the society he had left behind, like, "Ha, so typical!"

    • @planobest8120
      @planobest8120 Рік тому

      Dudes deep ops and everything he said was bullshit lol. He went over got some chick preggo claimed he loved her and the child and claimed he hates his ex wife and his country stole his retirement sounds like a cover story to me. That guy who didn’t let him into the CIA hq was smart motherfucker was trying to pull off a triple agent maneuver and plant listening devices or something.

  • @ceezy1548
    @ceezy1548 Рік тому +296

    Him talking about his daughter is so incredibly relatable. I have two sons and I love them dearly but when my daughter was born, it’s almost indescribable. That little girl managed to get the lid shut on the jar that had the one last bit of light left in me before it could vanish. She’s currently 4 and I owe her my soul, my very humanity. I wouldn’t have left either.

    • @ilikesoccer5799
      @ilikesoccer5799 Рік тому +5

      cuz u can be all soft and soppy cuz its ur kid and its good for daughters to do that

    • @Benny.13
      @Benny.13 Рік тому +3

      When my son was born

    • @henrymagana5538
      @henrymagana5538 Рік тому +19

      My son came first and a few years later my daughter came. Now my saying is
      "My son made me a man and my daughter made me a gentleman" from Henry Magana

    • @dfgiuy22
      @dfgiuy22 Рік тому +5

      Calm down, don't brag. Kiddo's are awesome though. Just be a good dad dude.
      Have fun getting your nails done! It's important to them :)

    • @CE-vd2px
      @CE-vd2px Рік тому +5

      I know what you mean because I have a dog that is female. Incredible feeling of love

  • @briguy2556
    @briguy2556 Рік тому +42

    I just want to start painting red circles everywhere now and see who gets spooked

    • @SiFi5478
      @SiFi5478 Рік тому +2

      😂

    • @spacesuitor
      @spacesuitor 3 місяці тому +1

      Never try to out-spook the spook.

  • @PRODIGY5369
    @PRODIGY5369 Рік тому +27

    I really enjoyed this insight and conversation when it 1st went live. I drive for a living and good podcasts help the miles roll unnoticed.
    I enjoyed it so much I listened to it again today. 🇬🇧

  • @bunghoekilla5958
    @bunghoekilla5958 Рік тому +37

    If you're a Russian you are probably thinking traitor, but he saw the American way and fell in love and sacrificed his home country for his new wife and kids. As a guy/man that's pretty respectable to me 💯

    • @Buskyb
      @Buskyb Рік тому +5

      He is german tho...

    • @highliter97
      @highliter97 Рік тому

      @@Buskyb but he was working for the Russians.

    • @delavan9141
      @delavan9141 Рік тому

      Spies aren't traitors unless they go over to the other side in order to damage their own country. He did nothing to damage his former country, as far as we can tell from this clip.

    • @kevinprzy4539
      @kevinprzy4539 Рік тому +2

      @@Buskyb Yeah but he worked for the Russian government, if a Canadian who worked for the US government betrayed them a lot of Americans would call him s traitor.

    • @divisiona3974
      @divisiona3974 Рік тому +3

      @@Buskyb East Germany. That was basically Russia back then.

  • @captainscarlett1
    @captainscarlett1 Рік тому +34

    I've read a lot of spy novels and autobiographies and what he casually talks about, dead drops, one-time pads, SW radio, all rings so true. It'd be a great movie.

    • @stevep8485
      @stevep8485 Рік тому +2

      Alan Alda should play him!

    • @ImperiumLibertas
      @ImperiumLibertas Рік тому +1

      Any suggestions? I find this stuff extremely interesting.

  • @yeslek
    @yeslek Рік тому +167

    I LOVE that he def knows his stuff AND has examples of his expertise/awareness, yet is a rare one who doesn't come across as a braggy know-it-all, like in so many YT interviews. How interesting, enjoying this!

  • @BlessedWithLuck
    @BlessedWithLuck Рік тому +70

    As a first time viewer, the stories you guys both have draw me in to continue watching. Great videos bro.

  • @jaimeweezer6260
    @jaimeweezer6260 Рік тому +152

    It’s so cool to see Lex find his own footing in this space . Now he is leading it . American dream realized

    • @MAYNOR82
      @MAYNOR82 Рік тому +19

      American dream realized: Report back to mother Russian.

    • @ci7alex1
      @ci7alex1 Рік тому

    • @ginnar8702
      @ginnar8702 Рік тому

      Called the "American dream", because you have to be asleep in order to believe it.

  • @AU88
    @AU88 Рік тому +4

    Really enjoyed Mr. Barsky’s memoir, “Deep Undercover.”
    Real-life spy stuff, and a touching story of redemption.

  • @gtaopman6678
    @gtaopman6678 Рік тому +7

    You think as soon as the camera is turned off he turned to Lex and asked So, How is your operation going comrade?

  • @ONEMANUNITX
    @ONEMANUNITX Рік тому +38

    As soon as he mentioned his daughter I nearly cried. I know that pain. And mines 18months as well. And such pain happened to me at 6months .

    • @makemegood1
      @makemegood1 Рік тому +5

      Hope your days get better

    • @hoondaily270
      @hoondaily270 Рік тому

      Don’t be a spy in reality we should have a no tolerance death penalty for spies

  • @yellowcake2478
    @yellowcake2478 Рік тому +45

    He is right about daughters

    • @bobbye7353
      @bobbye7353 Рік тому

      Something only a MAN with a baby daughter could possibly fathom

    • @micahmoody9615
      @micahmoody9615 Рік тому +1

      @ yellow cake he also mentions his “German family” received his money once they thought he passed.

  • @thecat7105
    @thecat7105 Рік тому +60

    Lex is really stepping up both the guests and quality of podcasts

    • @joelexline9
      @joelexline9 Рік тому +8

      @@tacotom3492 stop going too deep, I'm a "conspiracy" guy myself but you can't think EVERYTHING is fake and a lie, thats not true and quite the pessimistic existence

  • @keithandlinus
    @keithandlinus Рік тому +143

    Lex, this is one of the best interviews you've done. I have thoroughly enjoyed this conversation. Thank you.

    • @delavan9141
      @delavan9141 Рік тому +1

      What conversation? Did you even watch this? He seemed to be half asleep during this clip, occasionally tossing in a lame comment. Definitely not his best.

    • @krissykatportal
      @krissykatportal Рік тому +1

      Agreed. Great interview!

    • @nobody6032
      @nobody6032 Рік тому +2

      @@delavan9141 I think that you're confused about what am interview is.

  • @Jroc412
    @Jroc412 Рік тому +36

    The fact the he was hiding documents in central park is mind blowing to me for some reason. And the beam he had to pass by every day looking for a message. Wild.

    • @planobest8120
      @planobest8120 Рік тому +3

      I’m beginning to think this guys job was to be a decoy spy. Hiding notes in trees like a child? Lol wtf

    • @CAST1LLO
      @CAST1LLO Рік тому +4

      @@planobest8120 And that is exactly why it works.

  • @matthewanderson1308
    @matthewanderson1308 Рік тому +2

    This is the most fascinating thing I've seen on youtube. I cannot stop.

  • @SeriouslyIssues
    @SeriouslyIssues Рік тому +15

    100% understand what he's saying about being a father. Everything changed when my daughter was born. One day I was one person living one life the next day I left it all behind moved a week later with my girlfriend and baby and never looked back.

    • @andrewdenton7901
      @andrewdenton7901 Рік тому +1

      Crotch goblins save lives.

    • @SeriouslyIssues
      @SeriouslyIssues Рік тому +2

      @andrewdenton7901 🤣🤣🤣 100% federal inmate to PTA meetings and dressing up as a fairy for birthdays 😆 🤣

  • @dansdiesel767
    @dansdiesel767 Рік тому +12

    Such a great interview

  • @Tenderbits
    @Tenderbits Рік тому

    What an incredible conversation. Thank you.

  • @RawOlympia
    @RawOlympia 10 місяців тому

    thnx so much ... lived there then, it's nostalgic to listen to ... such an interview!

  • @mcm2366
    @mcm2366 Рік тому +85

    His story reminds me of the spy show The Americans. What an incredible life he’s lived and an equally incredible memory. Excellent story teller.

    • @Madameshakara
      @Madameshakara Рік тому +11

      Hall of fame show. Highly recommend

    • @pmenchions
      @pmenchions Рік тому +7

      @@Madameshakara Oh yes, it was riveting stuff. The only flaw was when Kerry Russell tried to speak Russian. Thankfully it was very brief!

    • @thokim84
      @thokim84 Рік тому +5

      To be a spy, telling a story is skill #1.

    • @sageg58
      @sageg58 Рік тому +3

      He literally inspired it

    • @theuniversejr
      @theuniversejr Рік тому +1

      reminds me of the show "The Blacklist" he might actually be the real Raymond Reddington 🤔 lol

  • @Legendary_Football
    @Legendary_Football Рік тому +14

    Great story from Mr. Barsky, and another great episode. TY Lex!

    • @planobest8120
      @planobest8120 Рік тому

      Yeah but with joe the guests can see themselves in his shiny polished tanned head. That’s gotta count for something.

  • @Angelthedog
    @Angelthedog Рік тому +6

    Great video , Lex. Good for you , Barsky.

  • @halfdayofthejackal9372
    @halfdayofthejackal9372 Рік тому +29

    "you have to take it (a death threat from the KGB) seriously .. to some degree" hahahahahahaha

    • @AIKnowYou
      @AIKnowYou Рік тому +4

      That's slightly missing the point though... what they said had 2 meanings

  • @FoulBundy
    @FoulBundy Рік тому +24

    He's 100% on the daughter thing; it changes you.

  • @Whiskey04
    @Whiskey04 Рік тому

    Great interview!

  • @birdman007
    @birdman007 Рік тому

    Great listen

  • @slimguy94
    @slimguy94 Рік тому +2

    Really good interview

  • @jonathanhall1823
    @jonathanhall1823 Рік тому

    I only realized now that I read his memoir almost two years ago…that book still lives in somewhere in my mind.

  • @jesusguzman5126
    @jesusguzman5126 Рік тому +7

    Loved this one Lex

  • @ciarantiger
    @ciarantiger 9 місяців тому

    Watched all the clips. Class 💯

  • @killtrocity6857
    @killtrocity6857 Рік тому +3

    This interview is truly a master piece

  • @BirdDawg1
    @BirdDawg1 Рік тому +3

    Another excellent clip from Lex.

  • @ADUB0017
    @ADUB0017 Рік тому +7

    That was an incredible story

  • @srfrg9707
    @srfrg9707 Рік тому +96

    What makes a good spy is both surviving his career and still present himself as an agreeable person despite all the crimes he committed. The usual retirement facility for a spy is the bottom of a lake.

    • @nobody6032
      @nobody6032 Рік тому +1

      I bet it's often times burned or melted with acid.

  • @waseem7195
    @waseem7195 Рік тому +13

    Is this dude not a cautionary tale of why these agencies get rid of their own agents once their time is up.

    • @bryansmith6939
      @bryansmith6939 2 місяці тому

      If you leave the service when you’re 40+ … chances of you doing real damage to your employed country is low as the information, tactics and even agents have changed.
      Leaving the service in your 20s/30s… those are the assassinations you hear of.. all their info in new/still relevant

  • @richardmacdonald2842
    @richardmacdonald2842 Рік тому +2

    Wow factor for me. Amazing interview Lex.

  • @redsofaanimation
    @redsofaanimation Рік тому

    This is an amazing interview!!

  • @WilliamFontaineJr
    @WilliamFontaineJr Рік тому

    Thanks again, great watching.

  • @ninjarogue
    @ninjarogue Рік тому +1

    Really interesting interview

  • @tomgreen1721
    @tomgreen1721 Рік тому +8

    His life would make a kick Ass movie

  • @ClappOnUpp
    @ClappOnUpp 4 місяці тому +1

    They gotta take advantage everytime they can get information like this. Its invaluable to understanding soviet operations even if it's old and sometimes repetitive of another account.

  • @sebby007
    @sebby007 Рік тому +2

    This is so much better than any history book!

  • @tannergill8367
    @tannergill8367 Рік тому +4

    "I was always praised for my ability to describe spots that are easy to find." LMAO

  • @MontegaB
    @MontegaB Рік тому +1

    Interesting to hear him talk about getting info from the shortwave stations :)

  • @jonvladimirtsev3002
    @jonvladimirtsev3002 Місяць тому

    Yes, Lex is awesome about letting his guests express themselves ...

  • @cdtape
    @cdtape Рік тому +16

    Binged watched the whole interview with this guy, very interesting story

  • @dpe4
    @dpe4 Рік тому +2

    Damn this was interesting. Lex and Jack; Thank you,

  • @dipster14
    @dipster14 Рік тому +7

    Crazy. Back when i was in middle school i wanted to be a spy myself so this interview is gold to me

    • @DrRisto__TWITCH
      @DrRisto__TWITCH Рік тому +1

      Now “spies” are as easy as you making yourself the Cattle … tracking yourself 25/8

    • @jamiestwrt
      @jamiestwrt Рік тому

      @@DrRisto__TWITCH nicely put

  • @davidabbett7011
    @davidabbett7011 Рік тому +2

    Captivating . . . . simply captivating.

  • @flowrider5082
    @flowrider5082 Рік тому +1

    What a great guest and wonderful story! Thanks for bringing him on!

  • @danwinters3397
    @danwinters3397 Рік тому

    Especially being from the area he’s describing it’s an amazing story

  • @Klocaine237
    @Klocaine237 Рік тому +1

    Great story guys. God Bless

  • @tuttutteddy8889
    @tuttutteddy8889 Рік тому +19

    really recommend barsky book to anyone who hasn’t read it, great to see him get some love. he deserves it!

  • @kevinm9
    @kevinm9 Рік тому

    Excellent episode

  • @scottfay3553
    @scottfay3553 Рік тому +1

    I really appreciate this mans work!! HEs true hero

  • @rajathnaik2136
    @rajathnaik2136 Рік тому +6

    2 Agents, one modern, one old, such class😎

  • @walterthorne4819
    @walterthorne4819 Рік тому

    Lex… this was a great one!

  • @haroldi.6450
    @haroldi.6450 Рік тому +4

    You can learn alot from his mannerisms and body language, the way he talks, the way he tells stories. Fascinating

  • @ChristopherSibert
    @ChristopherSibert Рік тому

    Absolutely fascinating.

  • @Ryan-9000
    @Ryan-9000 Рік тому +13

    "I can't come back I have aids" haha genuis.

  • @dpat41356
    @dpat41356 Рік тому +13

    He actually found the stash of money and passport.

    • @davidm7818
      @davidm7818 8 місяців тому

      that was his “one time pass”

  • @MarcusVinicius-mk4wr
    @MarcusVinicius-mk4wr Рік тому +97

    My father speaks seven languages has a masters a bachelors and a doctrine in three different majors and growing up we would always fly over sees weekly to the states. He always has his hair parted to the side and wears a lot of suites. As a kid I always thought he was a spy. It just made sense. Turns out he worked as a free lancer for time magazine. What ever that means.. looking back now it’s kinda silly.
    With that said I have three passports growing up completely filled up with travel I don’t remember. I guess it’s a logical suspicion.

    • @oiitzME1266
      @oiitzME1266 Рік тому +54

      Sounds like Cia especially after you mentioned him working for a magazine as that has actually been used as a front in the past

    • @Ryo-sd9rx
      @Ryo-sd9rx Рік тому +14

      It's your story bro. Might as well make it interesting

    • @TheIrishBosnian
      @TheIrishBosnian Рік тому +3

      Imagine you were correct. Lol

    • @scottfay3553
      @scottfay3553 Рік тому +9

      Hes a spy

    • @scottfay3553
      @scottfay3553 Рік тому

      @@oiitzME1266 Time magazine CNN all CIA ops

  • @fredericocr1
    @fredericocr1 Рік тому

    great story. thank you

  • @canadianmike7434
    @canadianmike7434 Рік тому

    This is very interesting!! thanks

  • @bryandonahue4347
    @bryandonahue4347 Рік тому +10

    Surprised this guy is still alive

  • @pgpro8691
    @pgpro8691 Рік тому +5

    That’s like a movie.. dude finds a red dot message on a railing he was designated to look at on way to work every day

  • @tylerrr.
    @tylerrr. Рік тому +1

    An interesting and well spoken guest. Would enjoy sitting down and having a few beers with him, I'm sure he's got some crazy stories!

  • @jeffgo5742
    @jeffgo5742 Рік тому +1

    I hope they make a movie about this guys life

  • @hendu7111
    @hendu7111 Рік тому

    Great story! Fascinating...

  • @kevinrice7635
    @kevinrice7635 Рік тому +3

    Genuine spy vs spy! Great 👍 story 👏

  • @RIPxBlackHawk
    @RIPxBlackHawk Рік тому +4

    The connections of this German train conductor are the best in comparison to what he does

  • @TheBmco99
    @TheBmco99 Рік тому +1

    Always a good show Lex I love hearing these good stories like Rodger Reeves

  • @sherryneglia4804
    @sherryneglia4804 Рік тому +34

    My grandfather was German. The similarities between him and this guy are amazing. Really makes me miss him

  • @durbanmedia
    @durbanmedia Рік тому +1

    KGB Cyber: "Pretty good episode tbf"

  • @saintchristopherx7006
    @saintchristopherx7006 Місяць тому

    This was amazing

  • @lilslicknick93
    @lilslicknick93 Рік тому +2

    I never knew that McDonalds was even making houses and properties like his MC-MANSION he mentioned !

  • @danpaulrose1
    @danpaulrose1 Рік тому

    Lex turned my elbow to the far left. I tapped... He's a special young man.

  • @TheCooIBIue
    @TheCooIBIue Рік тому

    Your bowl cut its on point

  • @titrecords2294
    @titrecords2294 Рік тому +60

    Imagine the characters of the people making the dead drop for him to pick, or the guys who find you to whisper in your ears or the guy taking half the loot 😂 geez 🙄 I love spy movies

    • @pokey8667
      @pokey8667 Рік тому

      Lex's interviews are next Level!🤙👍

  • @CallMeByMyMatingName
    @CallMeByMyMatingName Рік тому +2

    11:29 - 11:35
    I never bought off it like that!

  • @Subdriverboy
    @Subdriverboy Рік тому

    Ex 2.0 was an employee of Pinkerton Computer Consultants and had as her customer Jack Barsky at Prudential. She loved telling Jack Barsky stories and once said he commented about one of my novels. Years later, long after we were divorced, she told me that Barksy was a KGB spy and she was super freaked out.

  • @Sorendoisalive
    @Sorendoisalive Рік тому

    Living in Staten Island my whole life there is only a few parks that come to mind

  • @Danny-zg5gn
    @Danny-zg5gn Рік тому

    wait so what happened like why was the big red dot of paint on the wall he was talking about

  • @tonymcflattie2450
    @tonymcflattie2450 Рік тому +6

    Fun fact, the spy who shagged me was based on this story

  • @deathstarresident
    @deathstarresident Рік тому +3

    The Americans must be inspired by him. I loved how they made that series and always thought they must know someone who was a former spy to get to that level of detail

    • @deathstarresident
      @deathstarresident Рік тому +1

      @Reanu Keeves ROFL sorry “The Americans” it’s a TV series about Russian Spies living in USA

    • @RawOlympia
      @RawOlympia 10 місяців тому

      @@deathstarresident Never heard of it and love him, thnx!

  • @PaytonDowns
    @PaytonDowns Рік тому

    Quality content

  • @kenneth4992
    @kenneth4992 6 місяців тому

    Listening about the dead drop I'm curious how the game geocaching affected spies doing dead drops

  • @Broseftoast
    @Broseftoast Рік тому +1

    “My reentry into the human race” talking about his daughter and deciding to leave his former life. What a great quote

  • @NicholasHarsin
    @NicholasHarsin Рік тому

    What an unbelievable story.

  • @ucfkid67
    @ucfkid67 Рік тому +1

    Love how lex let's him run free with chatting instead of Joe where he constantly interrupting

  • @freddiemoses467
    @freddiemoses467 Рік тому +1

    Would love to see Oleg Gordievsky interviewed....but you would have to find him first! He's still number 1 on Russia's hit list