Trucker's Hitch Versus Taut-Line Hitch
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- Battle of the Ridgelines. Which is better the Taut-Line Hitch or the Trucker's Hitch. Enjoy! Please Hit The LIKE and SUBSCRIBE BUTTONS as well as the NOTIFICATION BELL. Feel Free to Check out my Amazon Influencer Page and Follow Me on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter. Thanks For Watching.
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Looking extra fit Cpl. Anyone else notice you're down a few pounds .💪
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Ok this time I'm sure you were out off Dugas rd lol I trap raccoon in that exact place and hunt in the whole area all the time.
I use the truckers hitch and improvised marlin spike hitch all the time for all kinds of applications which I learned from you. Thank you for all the great information you provide. Love your videos and your channel keep up the good work! Maybe I'll run into you out there sometime stay safe brother.
location is roadside USA. Thanks for watching
I've always done the trucker's hitch for a ridge line. I do use taught line hitch for tightening up the ends of a tarp from tent stakes. You can't get your ridge line tight enough using taught line hitch because you can't really crank on it like you mentioned.
My son is a British army cadet I told him your system but we use three Prusik knots with very light weight aluminium carabiners
his Sargent was so impressed with his overall performance and set up instead of the usual heavy and bulky elastic bungees that asked my son where he got his awesome idea from and he took FULL CREDIT!! , the little brow nose is now a Lance Corporal Thank you Corporal!!
Fantastic
I, too, am all for the trucker's hitch. However, I think a more objective comparison would have been the taut line hitch vs purely the trucker's hitch, NOT the taut line hitch vs the trucker's hitch + prusik loops. I'm just saying, it became a bit too much like apples and oranges for me...and I have often wondered about people's preferences (possible advantages) between the two. A fair head-to-head would be better...including just putting the prusik loops on the taut line hitch.
a taut line hitch gives you no mechanical advantage, the trucker's hitch gives a two-to-one advantage. So, you're able to exert greater pressure on the ridge line with the trucker's hitch. That two-to-one advantage is why truckers are so fond of the hitch, it allows loads to be better secured.
Guys, just show a little courtesy for his way of teaching before criticizing. Actually try what he is showing and you just might learn something. I have been tying knots before this man was conceived and can tell you what he shows us has real practical value. If you think you know it all, you leave yourself no room to grow or improve!!
I like them both. Pitch multiple geometries for different contingencies and use different knots as needed. No controversy in my camp. Another informative vid - Thanks.
Your videos are outstanding. As a former USAF lineman I know knots yet one can always learn from a Marine. Keep them coming.
What does a lineman do, if I may ask? Sounds like a knot expert but I'm guessing it's something more airplane-ey
I still prefer a truckers hitch. I can get it in very very tight without much effort. It also does not slip under load. The taut line is good for guy outs.
While I agree the truckie is the superior of the two, it's sort of a false equivalency here. You haven't compared them fairly when you add Prusik loops to only one of the two models.
I think the argument was that his use of truckie and prusiks is too complicated and all you need is taut line hitch with 2 sticks. But i agree, the comparison is a bit unfair in the bigger picture.
I followed your logic for the first time setting up a ridge line and tarp and my wife was so impressed. Thanks for making me look good.
Personally, I feel I can get a much tighter ridge line with a trucker’s hitch. I roll with the CC method. 👍
Yep 100% agree
Truckers hitch is a good knot, for sure. However, it seemed that the downsides you had with the taut line hitch would be largely avoided if you added prussic loops like you had on your other setup. Or, if you simply rotate the toggles to move/tighten/loosen the tarp... Yes, you can get the truckers hitch line tighter because of leverage, but nearly everything else, including the plow point shelter, is also possible with the taut line.
Use what you know, either can be used to quickly setup a tarp.
Spot on, Corporal! Marlinspike Hitch and Truckers Hitch, slam dunk. BTW, I camped at QuartzFest (just south of Quartzsite, AZ)t this past January for 7 days and for the first three days we had winds of 30 mph, gusting to 50. My camping neighbor had an EZ up off the back of his pickup as his main shelter and it was taking a beating from the wind. Using my Corporals Corner knots and pebble trick, we rigged up additional guy points where there were no tie-outs or grommets and saved his EZ up. We put two pebbles in the field of the side that was taking all the wind, and another in the middle of the canopy. Then we did the same for our special event radio station. Also, on the other side of my camp, we taught a camper the taut line hitch for their families tent when the plastic guy clips broke. See, no silly clips needed, just a great hitch. I used up 100 feet of #36 bank line putting additional guys on my tent and the other shelters! All that stuff you've been teaching works. Not only that, you have a real talent for teaching it, explaining things clearly step by step. I've seen other knot videos and at the end of it was asking myself "what did he say to do?" Never said that with one of yours. Good to Go! FYI, QuartzFest is a ham radio convention in the desert around campfires instead of in a hotel with conference rooms. Every year in January. We got to 1000+ attendees this year!
Wow! Never heard of this... wish I knew about it, I wudda went! I live by Phx.
I use a yard arms, like navy sailing, my tarps never sag, and can be adjusted so all the water drains into a bucket. 8 x 10 tarp for camping, or 40 x 60 to cover hay stacks or larger kitchen in the woods like we did New Orleans after the hurricane, easily dropped low down during 60 mph winds,easily pull back up by single person breakfast cook so coffee is ready.
Double down, and run second tarp in the other direction.
See Ashley's book of knots for directions, and circuses tent designs.
One thing i've noticed is that tightening the taut-line actually pulls the cord around whole back end of the tree, which can be bad for the cord if you have one with rough flakey bark like the one you're sitting in front of in this video. The trucker's hitch in comparison has the slack walked around the tree then tightened and tied off at the side.
Trackers hitch and similar polyspast systems with no blocks cause much more damage to the rope than simply rubbing it over the tree with similar force applied.
Paracord 550 has 250 kilos (550 pounds) break strength.
In CCs system you have a joint of two ropes each of which is bent in a sharp angle (almost 180 degrees) which means that outer rope fibers are already stretched more than the inner ones (practically, inner ones are almost not working and all the force is applied to outer ones). This bend causes a huge loss of the rope strength in specific bend place. I could find exact numbers, but considering a simple figure eight causes a loss of 40-45% of strengths, such a sharp bend should probably cause a loss of 60% at least. So, we can already consider the break strength to degrade to at most 100 kilos.
Polyspast doubles the force applied. This means that paracord (which is already degraded to at most 100 kilos) can take not more than 50 kilos of force applied by user before it breaks.
And what is specifically awful here is that it is not a static force applied to this least strong place of the rope - you are actually applying a sliding friction. So, the outer fibers are facing a huge stretching force and inner fiber are facing a huge friction force which causes a cutting effect. So, the strength degrades even more.
It is easy enough to damage paracord (it gets that glossy melt-like look in the place where friction was applied). And it is actually easy enough for an average human to break paracord by applying enough force to such tightening system.
I am actually going to make a test of how much force this system can handle. I reckon, there will be visible signs of damage at around 20 kilos and it will break at around 35-40 kilos.
I’ve watched countless videos and could never figure out how to make this simple hitch, others make it too complicated or do not explain it properly, thank you for this great lesson. Tried it once in my kitchen by using two different door knobs for the support and got it done on the 1st try. Thanks!
You should check out The Prepared channel's version, that lady explains it so well and gives a few extra great tips like a simple loop to secure the truckers hitch, tightening the toggles by rolling them, and an awesome quick bowline. Trust me she is awesome
Another excellent video. Remember the acronym K.I.S.S., the truckers hitch is simple (no wraps to undo) and always secures tighter than the taught line hitch. The taught line hitch was designed so you can take up or loosen the line as needed, the truckers hitch is a dead stop for no slack. I have been using both for years depending on the application.
AS A MATTER OF FACT SIR!!!!!! ……………… I didn’t know any knots before I found your channel. Your channel inspired me to go out and give hiking, camping and bushcraft a try. I was always interested but I had no training and didn’t know where to start. I’m still a beginner but everything I learn I can now teach to my kids. Your content is awesome keep up the good work and thank you for your service.
As another Eagle Scout, I was raised using the taut line hitch and would use variations so I didn’t have to pass 20 feet of line to tie it. I absolutely agree that the truckers knot is superior to getting a very tight line, but from my point of view putting up a rain tarp in a hurry the taut line is very fast. I really don’t care if it comes down fast.
After 35 years of backpacking the taut line hitch has served me very well. Started backpacking in the late 1967
I guess it’s hard to teach an old dog new tricks
Your Ridgeline system is outstanding. This video shows how much thought went into this system. I always carry one such Ridgeline with me. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
This is why I like your channel. You do what you know, and try other suggestions, instead of insinuating youre the know all end all. I appreciate your insight and your time, to teach us young bucks how to survive and thrive. Your channel is relaxing to watch after a full day of BS and PC culture at work etc. Respect and thank you corporal!
I’ve been using your ridge line technique for the past year now and your knot videos have improved my camping experience. No longer spending time undoing crappy tie downs. Quick release and I’m ready to roll.
Taut-line is easily made quick release. Same as you do when you tie your lacers.
I like the setup you use better.
Like if you wanted to add another tarp to the other side (for a double lean-to) it'd be WAY easier with the prusik loops already on the ridgeline and the bowline already installed at the end.
Also, I really liked the plow point setup at the end! Genius!
Thanks!!
Great video brother! 👍
Very good point about transitioning to an A frame. The prusik knots definitely make that easier.
As an old Eagle Scout, I would say of course the taut line hitch is superior, but I think you very well showed the advantage of the trucker's hitch in this configuration. To me, one of the key advantages with using the trucker's hitch is as the hitch is pulled taut, it gets closer to the anchor point, whereas the taut line hitch gets further away from the anchor point, which reduces the easy useable area (not having to untie one of the prussic loops and move it to the other side of the hitch) for the prussic/toggle system if you use it for both hitch ridgeline systems.
So why didn't you use the Prusik knots with the first set up ? You wouldn't have had to loosen it.
My only guess is that pulling against the standing end with a prusic coUld loosen the ridge line since technically the taught line isn’t a fixed loop. so if it’s windy or something while your asleep maybe you could wake up to a loose tarp. Or just over time the pulling of a prusic could loosen it some how. I had the same thought as you but idk this is the only thing I could think of. Good question tho
He said in the video he keeps being told all you need is a tautline and two sticks. So that's what he used
As a boy scout, we learned the taut line and it was sufficient for a number of years... but had it's drawbacks. Ever since learning the trucker's hitch, or the concept of it- I've never looked back. Instead of the over-hand on a bite, I do an alpine butterfly as it's less likely to collapse on itself and easier to un-tie.... tie it and forget it. Rarely have to go and re-adjust it. Always works on various types of lines (nylon, polyester, jute, sisal, braided vs non-braided and twisted)
Before I ever watch this video I am going to comment lol. The truckers hitch and bowline knot are far superior "in my opinion" for multiple reasons. You can never get that ridgeline as tight with the taut line as you can with the trucker's hitch. The taut line will slip over time where as the Trucker's hitch does not. Having prusik knots attached makes setup much faster and offers more versatility and adjustment to your tarp. Taut line is no faster than a trucker's hitch to tie if you are practiced and the trucker's hitch is far faster to untie than the taut line. These are just a few reasons I prefer the PF ridgeline system. The NPYO teaches Taut line and Siberian hitches but I much prefer the other system. With all that said, I will watch the video :)
TBH, the trucker's hitch is actually faster to tie (and release!). Never was able to figure out ho to tie that Siberian hitch with the fingers spread and hand twisting motion thing.
My wife and I watch your channel all the time(we are both outdoor enthusiasts). We went camping with some friends earlier this year and I decided I wanted to take some time and research some useful knots. This, of course, led me back to your channel and it was a very informative way for me to learn. I even brought about 20ft of paracord to my current "office" job and just tied knots in my free time for a week to get the muscle memory down.
The amount of joy I had when our friends started jokingly calling me "survivalist" because I was able to whip out my newfound knowledge was immense. I was able to properly utilize a multitude of knots that you taught me, including the trucker's hitch, taut-line hitch, marlin spike hitch, bowline, fisherman's knot, jam knot, and even a simple overhand knot. I know this is all basic shit for you, but man...I felt like a rock star. Thank you for all the info and please keep it coming.
There is a small improvement to the truckers hitch that you might like. You show making a single twist, laying it over and pulling a bight through, forming what we all know as a slipknot, and then the rest of the pulley system we know as the truckers hitch. When pulled very tight, those slipknots can become hard to get out of the line. Try twisting it twice or three times then pulling the bight through to make your slipknot, and proceed as normal. You will find that no matter how tight you pull the system, the slipknot will just shake out when you take it apart.
2 year old vid showing up in my recommended! We're making it happen I think lol keep up the good work. At least one of your vids is part of my daily ritual now. The fact that you never say "this is the best way" but rather "this is what I prefer" is so respectable and shows us that you are an open-minded leader. I've learned more from your channel in the past couple months than anywhere else on UA-cam
Taught line on both ends with two presic knots for the tarp is superior in every way. You can tighten or adjust from both ends, and you have unlimited adjustment without having to undo the knot like you have to with a truckers hitch.
My go to method is truckers hitch and prusics to attach the tarp so I agree 100% with you
I've been using the truckers hitch for my ridge line ever since you taught me how to tie and use it. Thank you for everything you teach and explain. I really enjoy watching your videos. You always have so much to offer. Please keep up the good work and thank you again.
Good instruction. That’s the way I’ve done it for years. It just made sense if I was using a tarp to make a roof.
Also, instead of trying to figure out where to put that slip knot for the truckers hitch, just use a third prussik knot loop for an adjustable truckers hitch loop. You can then put it exactly where you need it without thinking about it. Even less stress and longer life for your ridgeline.
Brilliant idea! Do you know from the top of your head weather a thinner dimension on the Prussia knot loop allows for Auto locking trucker's Hitch?
You indicate that in the taught line hitch setup you could see potential binding or fraying issues over time. Yet that truckers hitch creates a much harsher bind on the rope and due to the stated benefit of being able to really tighten the line will end up putting the bind under far greater pressure. Now I agree with the overall method described here, your ridgeline is definitely preferable here, just pointing out a definite bias in the potential cons you alleged to in the taught line hitch.
Instead of passing the tail through the loop on the truckers hitch to tighten it, you can attach a carabiner between the loop and the tail so there is never rope on rope friction.
My technique is to use a butterfly loop in conjunction with a tautline hitch. The loop strung through gets you the mechanical advantage, then you already have the tautline behind it to simply pull and tighten. Plus, if you are encamped for a while and are dealing with some line sag, just pull the tautline in some more and done. No need to go through the extra step of retying the trucker's hitch. I will play around with the trucker's hitch but I don't like how you have to hold the tension while you tie the closing end. Also, not sure why you didn't add the prusik knot to the tuatline hitch demo if it was an issue.
Great comment -- your method works well for tightening the ridgeline anytime without having to retie anything!
As always, fair and accurate comparisons with reasoned descriptions. I'm with you corporal. I have five quick ridge lines set up and stored for when I need them. Use them all the time.
Great comparative look at both methods. Trucker's hitch all the way for me. Have used it for decades and was never really a fan of the taut line hitch.
I completely agree on going with a truckers hitch and Prusik. Been doing that for years. However I’m confused as to why you didn’t use prusik loops on the taught line demonstration.
First thing to my mind too.
Maybe the comparison wasn’t meant to be fair by design. This video really only highlighted the utility of the Prusik knot.
He mentioned earlier that the demo was in response to a specific set up (taught line and two sticks) he was only using what a poster had said was better.
What you said. I saw your trucker's hitch/Prusik set up in an earlier video and immediately switched from the trailing hitch system I learned in 1965.
Using the Prusiks is genius, how did I survive 50+ years without knowing that? The trucker's hitch is easier to tighten the ridgeline, but it takes just as long to tie as the tautline early. The tautline has an advantage by easily tightening after the initial tie, this is important if the weather changes and the line slacks. So there is a trade-off between quick-release trucker versus extra tightening tautlineb use hitch whichever best fits the situation.
But using those Prusiks, why have I never thought of that? And it's easy to put additional Prusiks on the same line (slaps forehead!).
I'm lost as to why you didn't use the prussik on both ridgelines? Without the prussik, wouldn't the truckers hitch ridge line be harder to attach the tarp to compared to the taught line hitch ridgeline?
I'd too use a trucker's if I really need to crank and the application doesn't require adjustments. Separately, I prefer the Farrimond friction hitch over the taut line. Check it out if you haven't heard of it...it's a friction hitch that's actually quick release and I surmise is grippier than a taut line as it wraps over four times instead of three (it's tied similar to a (partial) prusik).
I'm a trucker. I deliver windows to mostly job sites. I use the truckers hitch to secure windows and sliding patio doors. It has never failed me. I've even used the rapid deploy ridge line to hang birth day banners. People are amazed when seeing me do this. I tell them I learned the Corporals Corner.
Another excellent example of info-tainment... Truckers hitch is the next best thing to a ratchet straps or a come along( and has advantages over both)...the taught line or midshipmans hitch ,in my opinion, is better suited to lighter static loads (hanging a food bag in bear country) rather than a highly tensioned ridgeline and seems to work better with natural fibers or tarred line. Nylons, poly or newer wonder fibers are very slippery, I find it tends to slip over time. It's popularity can be attributed to the boy scouts of America.... keep up the good work.
Looking at the taught line from the cold fingers angle... there is too much fiddle farting with the knot when finger dexterity is compromised.
Watching your videos changed my ridge line knot preference from a Canadian jam knot too the modified marlin spike hitch. Because, when I saw it, it was instantly recognized as a superior method of fastening (for me and the way I operate).
Thanks for your squared away blocks of instruction.
I use the taut line for permanently attached lines where the length of the line needed from site to site will be about the same. The tension lines that I leave in place on my tarp and rain fly all have taut lines on them for ease and speed of setup, break down and adjustment.
For a ridge line. That will always be a truckers hitch until someone shows me a hitch that can get better tension.
The prusik knot is superior to the inline toggle in every way.
I have used a trucker's hitch for ridge lines and taut-line for guy lines since I was a kid (67 now). Don't see any reason to change now. Bottom line : Works for me, use whatever works for you. Thanks, Corporal.
I've been very impressed with your system, it's elegant and there is no more paracord putting an enormous pressure on the grommets (like those plastic grommets of the USGI poncho) by coming in and out. Since I live in France and I cannot find tarred bank line, I've been experimenting with lines we use for craft or for boating, saving weight in the process. This weekend I'm demonstrating it to a friend and helping him select the best ridgeline + poncho + stakes combo.
I really appreciate that you test all alternatives before reaching a conclusion.
My father was a truck driver and for many years before the advent of ratchet straps and used rope to secure primarily large loads of USG sheetrock and the huge rolls of paper used in the manufacture of it. They always used what you refer to as a trucker's hitch. Truck drivers ( they did not call themselves truckers back then) always called it a " dutchman ". No other knot can provide the tensioning force that this knot can. Why? Because the first loop that you make in reality acts as a pulley and provides mechanical advantage. When tying the knot it is easily pinched off at the first loop with thumb and forefinger of one hand even when under great strain while the other hand completes the slip knot. This was not even a contest! Regards, Cpl. DJD USMC '67
I like the your trucker hitch over the tautline for its quick release but one of your complaints against the tautline is trying to attach the tarp. Why didn't the tautline have prussicks?
I think he was using the way commenters said, that prusik hitches "waste time", and he was showing that it is easier with prusik hitches. Also, if you wanted to use the tautline with prusiks, the tautline gives you less length to work with just because of how it tightens. I might be completely wrong, but that's what I assume.
Rewatch the video. The Corporal spells out ALL the benefits and concerns.
There is no issues with having quick release in taut-line - just put a loop in the outer part, not just an open end.
Tbh you could've used the prusiks with the taut hitch as well. But loved the truckers hitch a lot thanks for explaining it
why use prusiks on an inferior hitch with no mechanical advantage and just keep tightening it? Thanks for watching
@@recall5811 I use the truckers hitch as well. Far superior. But the point of using the prusiks as Bowline Daddy suggested would be to have an apples to apples comparison as you went through the trouble and demonstrated both "systems" while giving the pros and cons of both systems.
Absolutely 💯 right here . He's not to open minded here .
I tried that too. Your method is so much faster and more efficient.
I switched to your quick deploy ridgeline set up a while ago and it works great. I only use the taut line when I need to guy out my tarp.
Old video, (and yes I'm not subscribed but i did like!) so you might not see this.
You make good points about quick release, but i have no idea why you didn't use the prussik knots on the taught line hitch. using the bight and grommet seems weirdly complicated and has the problems you mentioned.
The real advantage of the trucker's hitch is the mechanical advantage you get in the tightening step. That allows you a much easier time getting a very taught rope.
Thanks for the video!
what each person does is fine if it works for them. personally, I use a trucker's hitch for ridgelines, and taut line hitch for the guy lines. I have a lot of time in the dirt. I grew up hiking, hunting and learning and practicing fieldcraft skills with my father and grandfather, then I spent 10 years as a grunt in the ARMY, and have tried to teach fieldcraft to my sons as well. I know I do not know everything, but I know what works for me.
Taut-line hitch for guy lines, I can understand. Tie 'em once and then just leave the loops in the end of the lines ready to throw over the top of the pegs and cinch them taut. I use trucker's hitch for ridgelines and tying down anything I don't want falling off the back of a trailer
I appreciate you, Sean. You do a fantastic job of getting us prepared “quickly”. Thank you for the leg up!
I built a tarp tent and campfire in the garden today and made camp bread and Nutella for my best friends 3 yr old boy. All in the rain! What a great day. And I used the taught line knot I learnt in scouts! I’ll try this system next time. 😂
I've watched tons of videos and your system is the best I've seen for me. Looks super fast to deploy and take down. Perfect for what I want to do and my needs
Thats not fair!! You can use prusiks on both! 🤣 And the working end must be kept plied, ofcourse! 🤣👍 I use truckers hitch, by the way🤣
Exactly. It's not like the tarp attachment method is determined by the knot used for the ridgeline.
Former Marine, 1971. Great to have your refresher courses. Thanks & Godspeed.
As always, 100% sense talked on this channel. That is why I keep coming back here. Thanks Shawn, you are a great source of outdoors information.
So why didn't you use prusiks with the tautline?
Yeah, that's what I was wondering.
Because he doesn't like that system and......doesn't have to ! Lmao ! I'm with the him on this one because I like very very tight lines and tarps that are also very very quick to breakdown and won't losen up and or rip in violent wind and rain storms. When you have lived this shit in swamps, jungles , snow covered mountains and other inhospitable inviroments , fighting the elements of weather ,insects, and animals ..........there's no time to fk around playing boy scouts. Old saying in the Millitary that I would guess is still around ........." keep your shit tight "
@@randyrussell6246 The video says he's comparing the truckers hitch to the taut-line hitch, not the truckers hitch with prusiks versus the taut-line hitch without prusiks. By NOT using the prusiks with the taut-line hitch, it's not a fair comparison.
@@rogkmyers You are right Sir and I stand corrected. The Corporal lost his place and misspoke , let's not cut his tounge out for getting his demonstration
Off .
Love your methodology. Have seen so many of your quality videos for quite some time now. Really appreciate your commitment to efficiency & practicality. Keep up the good work !
Truckers hitch is a simpler knot to tie. Prussik knot on the ridge line is a great idea. I had not seen that before. When I secure a load in my pickup or trailer it is a truckers knot or a ratchet strap. With practice one could become more proficient with the taut line, but if one is good with both I can't see the taut line being faster or more efficient.
Looks like the fastest, easiest way for a ridgeline. I have to practice my knots. Thanks for the video.👍
i use the same method as yourself, only using the tautline knot for attaching the corners to trees or pegs for the sides of the tarp. Can almost play a tune on the line once cinched up tight using the truckers knot.
A short stick(~24") can be used between the two lines at the tree for tightening the ridge line with either hitch.Turn the stick which twists the two lines together,shortening the ridge line to make it taut.Tie a cord around the tree to keep the stick from rotating and loosening the ridge line.
A short piece of cordage can be passed through the tarp grommet and looped around the ridge line.Pull the ridge line loop through the tarp grommet and insert the toggle to hold the tarp and pull the short cordage free.
Thanks for the videos! :)
I was taught a truck hitch for rigid line and taut line for guid lines. You taught me something I love is to have a rigid line setup and ready to go,the spike for quick release. Love seeing great ways of keeping your items tight. Thank you for your service.
My 13 yr old son and I hammock camp so I made your quick deploy ridge line, my son laughed at me and my ridge line. We went camping and it started raining and I had my ridge line up tarp set and hammock hung and taking a nap while he is still fighting and adjusting his ridge line to cover his hammock getting soaked and wet. So guess who is laughing now LOL
Thanks for your instruction and great attitude, Corporal
Outstanding, I love it! I've had the trouble of tie untie, along with unwinding the taught line over and over again. Thanks for your guidance with this dilemma.
Thanks for the video. I have been in awe of people who can tie knots and not have to stop and retie every little bit
I’ve used taut line with prusik attachments for years and never had any issues. I’ve also spent years tinkering with line lock gadgets like the figure 9. All of the gadgets are good and do their jobs. I mainly use them on tarps for hammock camping. That said, after watching your video I started messing around with the truckers hitch, and I find it to be a superior knot for ridge lines. It replaces all the gimmicks and gadgets and saves weight. I am solidly in the Truckers Hitch camp now. Great video.
It's really personal preference. But that military mind set tells us if we gotta go, we gotta go. Being an army vet I understand that. I use the truckers knot. Non vets are thinking they have all the time in world. Veterans understand get it down and get out. It could cost accomplishment of the mission or even life's if you farting around with a knot.
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I've been doing a quick release taught line. I find that a triple sinche point holds it's weights worth where single and double need adjustment after a simple breeze. Gonna check into the truckers hitch soon though and see it it'll serve the function I'm attempting for
End the taut line hitch with a bite rather than threading the entire loose end and then you got a quick release taut line hitch
You can put a quick release in the tautline and get it down pretty much as quick as a trucker's
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He shows this. Did you watch it all?
Agreed. Trucker hitch for the main support, where you don’t want it to loosen or self adjust. taught line for bracing, where you might want the tension to be adjustable.
Corporal Kelly, THANK YOU! I have to teach ropes and knots to new fire department recruits and sometimes I need a quick reference the day before, just to kick the cob webs off, and your videos always help me! Thank you for your time and effort, it is much appreciated.
I created a rapid ridge line as you’ve instructed here and in previous videos. The taut line is more complicated than necessary especially if faced with an emergent situation.
I have only been watching your Chanel for a few months so I’m not qualified to make any evaluations. However, I wanted to put up a simple tarp shelter for my 8 & 6 year old grandson because they love being out doors. I used the system of the bowline and Marlene spike and the truckers hitch and a very economical tarp and some economical stakes with a length of paracord. The system has been standing without any adjustments for 21/2 months. For a first attempt at setting up the shelter system I have been very pleased with the result and how well it holds up. Even over this amount of time it has not sagged with the trucker’s hitch.
Thank you for your service! When I was serving they never got to tying knots. But after watching your video it will come in handy for when I cut down the dead trees around the yard I live on. That will help me direct the trees if they try going the wrong way. So I hope! God bless you and the 3%ers
I love this video. Thank you for showing, explaining and teaching me these knots.
Though I'm just learning these things, now after some practice, I see the elegant qualities inherent in the Trucker's Hitch and the quick deploy ridgeline. Corporal, you're a Guru, Brother! This knowledge is priceless, IMHO!!
The second way you did that with the Trucker's Hitch and my opinion also is the best way. Especially when you went from a squared tarp to the plow point. I use the Trucker's Hitch in a whole lot of things that I do because it's so much easier just to pop it Loose plus I also put a toggle in my Loop just in case it happens to get jerked out while walking around camp and the tent. Those prusik hitches work great for a lot of things. Thanks for the lesson and have a great day and stay safe and keep your powder dry!
After watching your quick setup I switched to the truckers hitch. Love it. Thx
I use truckers hitch for ridge line and taught-line for various other applications. Can’t go wrong with the truckers hitch...mainly for the ability to get that line tight and solid. We all know tarps catch wind and lines tend to loosen up and lose integrity. That truckers hitch is invaluable for that reason alone. As for the prussic...that is also the more brilliant option bc when your tarp grommets start to rip holes in the tarp (and they will), you can fashion the prussic in such a way (perhaps with a clove hitch) to use a small stone that is encased by the tarp material in place of grommet failure. Failing to prepare means preparing to fail. Think ahead and consider all variables
Thanks for the easy demo. I like your method with the truckers hitch and prussic loops. Way easier and more options.
corporal, i agree, for a ridgeline, truckers hitch is hands down better. it's not debatable, mechanical advantage, as you have always said. that said, there is no reason you can't use prussik's on a taut line ridgeline. taut line is still a great hitch, especially for staking out guy lines. its much easier to make incremental adjustments due to wind, rain, etc, on lines that don't need the strength of a ridgeline.
i watch all your vid's, can't believe i wasn't a subscriber. until now. keep up the good work...
truckers: tighter, more secure
taut line: finely adjustable
i agree, other than that they are pretty similar
One thing that addresses one of your concerns with the taught line hitch is tying some toggles onto your Ridge line with your prussek knot as you did with the truckers hitch. This allows you to save your Ridge line from the possible fraying problem and increases your ease of setup without having to slacken your Ridge line multiple times. I do love me some truckers hitch though! I use it regularly to tie stuff down on my sailboat.
The old saying is If it aient broke dont fix. And the TRUCKERS HITCH is easy muscle memory that you can do in the dark of night. Thank you for explaining it to those that think theres a better mousetrap.
Went out kayak camping last weekend, my 10x12 tarp was set using your exact quick deploy ridgeline and it withstood 60mph winds. Tornado sirens in distance. One hell of a weekend!
One disadvantage of the taut-line hitch when compared to the trucker's hitch that you didn't mention,but is obvious when watching the video, is that as you tighten the taut-line then length of rope usable for the ridge line gets smaller
Or, you know, you could just tighten the line before tying the hitch in either case. It's a straight line from tree A to tree B. It's not complicated, people. Lock the line around tree A, walk the line to tree B, wrap around it, pull the free end of the line tight, make a hitch with enough room to pull it taut, and lock it off.
Depending on which hitch you choose dictates how much room you ought to leave on either side of the hitch, as obviously they pull in different directions.
Taut line hitch? Tie the hitch right up to the bark and pull the knot towards the center of the line to make it taut. If you need to create a "V" for your hammock suspension to hang through, obviously you'd tie the hitch further towards the center. The good thing is you can adjust it if you don't land the spacing perfectly. Wow! What a concept!
Trucker's hitch? Tie it further into the center so there's room to pull the knot up to the tree. No shit, right?
Seriously, why does this even need to be debated?
@@NostalgicLink as people listen to others and are not trying to think themselves. Someone stated that truckers is easier when you have one hand left only as of the injury. Really, someone is really thinking they would want to tweaks with knots being one handed and feeling pain. Yes, various knots help to do things in a bit more neat and quick way, but - tying a rope between two trees and such a discussion?
And I find it just hilarious that some people really need "huge tension" on 550 paracord (550 lbs breaking strength). This truckers hitch polyspast type system has so many factors which weakens the rope that 550 paracord literally degrades to 100 paracord in this system.
Probably, a lot of guys are actually not tying the ridgeline to place 10x10 feet 1 pound weight tarp on it, but are going to use it to shoot arrows in their enemies :D
Great reasoning and demonstration. I have used the end loop as one end of the tarp with a toggle. Semper Fi
Corporal, you are exactly right. I used to use a taught line hitch almost exclusively. When I saw you use the truckers hitch it became my go to hitch. I always use your method of the quick release ridge line now.
Keep on doing what you are doing man, OUTSTANDING!
I just upgraded my ridge line to lash-it with dutchgear Dutch hook and wasp. I use soft shackles with a prusik knot to secure the tarp. I have the ability to switch back to rope only but I like the convenience of the titanium dutchgear hardware. Also got a couple titanium toggles if I need them. Very small and lightweight.
Your methods(truckers hitch) are more than adequate though and work quite well. I used your method until recently.
I also keep a 25’ piece of 7/64th Amsteel with a loop on one end handy for when I want to throw up a strong ridge line with your method. Again with soft shackles though. The only thing bad about the hollow core rope like Zing-it, Lash-it and Amsteel is that is doesn’t take traditional knots well. It requires a tool to tie the knots. On other hand it allows you to make a whoopie sling style ridge line and other cool knots.
BTW, when I do a truckers hitch I do the self tightening version. That is awesome! Really appreciate your Channel.
Your videos are revolutionizing my camping set up. I have removed so much unnecessary stuff it's untrue! I'm actually looking at a smaller pack now as my current one is getting too big. Thank you for all the tips!
Efficiency is king... I use your ridgeline system because it works well and I can't find anything easier. Quick release makes for frustration free camping.
I applaud you for taking an objective look at other methods, that's how you can be sure truckers hitch gives you the fastest, easiest, most efficient method of setting up a tarp or shelter. Outstanding!
I can’t do knots very well so I just do a bunch of half hitches and tie everything like I do my boots and wing it, I’m retarded but it keeps me alive.
Lol I hear ya.
What is it about knots that I find fascinating? Does anyone else feel the same? I mean...so many variations. It seems like there's always another variation to be discovered.
You're definitely not alone. There's something ethereal about knots for sure, besides the obvious utility. There's some deep mathematics behind knots v.s. tangles and so on, and there are tables and formulas for finding every possible knot. Also, scientists once thought that different types of atoms were energy, somehow knotted up differently, before modern atomic theory. Probably not way off.
dude, when fishing season came.... I learned WAY too many knots
but it was darned fun, and I found which ones worked best for me.
@@analogplanet9675 ...The Analogplanet96 knot? No! I don't know that one! Sounds like it'll take me weeks if not months to learn that one. 🙄 L.O.L.
@@thecookieling8280 ...The Cookieling knot? Nope. Don't know that one either! 😏
It's a satisfactory addiction. I need more though I've found the best IMHO
Your explanation and illustration of the truckers hitch made tying one a snap! Thank you!
Thank You very much Corporals Corner! I really appreciate it!