Ya'll Not Tired of Leaving out 4c Hair when Discussing Texturism?
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If you want to know who’s truly marginalised, simply look for who is NOT in the room discussing the supposed issues.
While we are the topic. Let's talk about how mixed models are allowed to wear their real hair but black models have to shave it off 🙄
yesss!!!
the *have* to? you sure about that? how do you know that those models who shave their heads aren't *choosing* to do this?
@@marie-francoiset9402 They have to shave it because back then it was deemed beautiful and NOBODY knew how it wanted to style it.
@Orange300 i wouldve said no. ppl do too much just for fame then get mad when they give too much. they just should've said no. Or maybe they weren't upset about it but only the audience is.
then stop hating on mixed people you people are targeting the wrong people how about you hate the white people that made those double standards it’s not mixed peoples fault they were born mixed
Talking about texturism without mentioning 4c hair is like talking about Italian food without mentioning pasta
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I 4c. (I agree).
Like literally!!!
the lighting, the eye makeup, the updo.. you give it to us every time 🧚🏾♀️ WHILE serving justice to the 4c community
Ikr!!!
Every time for real!
Yassssssss! Sis is lookn snatched
Serving squared
Why are they presenting a model with type 3 hair as a representative for hair that is discriminated against? We all know that the type of hair that is considered "unprofessional" is type 4b or 4c hair.
Also 4a hair.
@@miniminott48 undefined 4a hair sure.. But wash and go type styles, 4a is a very 50/50 thing
@@michalovesanime agreed! i have 4a hair and i feel it’s seen as the “lesser sin” of the type 4 hair category, since it still forms defined s-pattern ringlets, similarly to type 3 hair(although smaller/tighter). texturism should center around 4b/4c hair.
@@michalovesanime kind of agree it's def 50/50 in my own daily experience. I notice the response and looks I get when I don't have a bunch of ultra-defining curl products in my hair vs if I just wash/condition and throw in a little leave-in lotion and peace out (at work & out-and-out). I have APL 4a/4b hair.
Yea they blow me with that. Or those channels who show other hairdressers(who aren't black)doing "black hair", but they are type 3 🙃
AND FOR THOSE IN THE BACK IK SOME BLACK PPL CAN HAVE TYPE 3, (MY GUY COUSIN HAS TYPE 1 and both parents are black) but majority of us that have both black parents have type 4
This is just another form of gaslighting and chastising. The advertiser and the female in the photo w/her hair half straight & half curly know that she has “socially acceptable” hair. This is a deliberate attempt to make women with kinkier hair feel bad about themselves and their hair type. That’s about as foolish as a size 2 fitness model complaining about being fat when they are on their period and they know good and well they still look damn good even if their stomach is a lil pudgier than usual🙅🏽♀️
THIS!
They love to broadcast the message that the reason 4B/4C hair is not curly, shiny, clumpy, etc is because it’s not being “taken care of properly.” The bill of sales they are peddling is that 3C hair is the way all afro-textured hair can and should look with “proper care” and anything other than that is just neglected and damaged hair 🙄🤦♀️
@Kay Kronicals ⬆️ 1000% THIS!!!
Well just to let you guys know tightly curled hair is real hair and straight hair is fur It’s scientifically proven. Although I find all hair is great if it’s growing out of your head. 4B/4C is absolutely stunning. It doesn’t look dry to me at all. It is so unique. I actually don’t like like when women oil that hair up. I find staying hydrated inside and using teas and essentials gives my hair all the love it needs. I too am a freeformer.
Well Black women have real hair, can't say about other groups of "people"
I know a lot of 4c girls who cover up their hair with type 3 wigs TO BE more “professional.” So you mean to tell me that’s not considered professional either?? Geesh.
Also, thank you for always getting straight to the point in your videos 🙏🏾 You’re very good at cramming a lot of information, insightful reflection, and predictions into a short amount of time in a way that doesn’t feel rushed. Your followers with short attention spans (🙋🏾♀️) really appreciate this about you ❤
It’s not by some people, and I think it depends on the culture/community, but definitely not at the scale of 4c.
I grew up in a predominantly Mexican area, and there were a ton of 3b/c latinas frying tf outta their hair with flat irons everyday. What is considered “good hair” in our community is considered “pelo malo” in theirs.
There’s a difference between professional and accepted, they might not be considered professional but they see it as acceptable enough. Discrimination for them also translate into the workplace as being ignored or invisible. Example, they may not attack you because of your hair but every other aspect that they believe is "other"
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If you're not centering dark skin black women with the kinkiest, coily hair texture, then you didn't understand the assignment. Doesn't surprise me about Dove. Also, have fun in London - the weather we've had here recently has been absolutely wild.
Big facts
P.s I 💜 your hair
@@LifeBeLife-ingthank you 💜
I agree with you 💯. ALL Black women need to be represented, not just those who fall into a certain category. It's definitely one-sided.
It really is! The lack of representation of dark-skinned Black women, especially those with 4c hair, makes me itch.
Yes please! I wish they would knock off the shenanigans! I have so called 3C hair and when I stopped doing all types of hair gymnastics with puddings, gels and foams so that my curls were "poppin," I would get comments at work - from Black people. We have to accept who we are. We are beautiful when we are kinky, nappy, curly, crunchy and coily.
Mayowa is one of most beautiful content creators on UA-cam and we need to see more people who like like her across platforms and in advertisements.
@@GeeBee212 We gotta accept the crunchies too, huh? 😂 You sho’ right!
@@Superlife1369 You know I'm rolling my eyes at you! Yes the crunches too!!!!!
I agree honestly 100% I’m still watching but had to comment immediately just from the first few seconds! 4C hair should be the face of natural hair of all these silly natural campaign’s! I have the same hair texture and I feel invisible to even my own family.
Someone with Type 3 hair can literally roll out of bed and will still get compliments on their hair. Meanwhile someone with 4c hair will get asked, “when are you doing something with your hair? “. Someone with type 3 hair does not suffer from texturism, they benefit from texturism.
Great video ❤!
For me I can say I am someone that doesn’t fit that rule😂 I have type 3 hair but when i get out of bed, it will have dried and shrunken very easily and people say “do your hair” and assume I have type 4 hair. When my hair is not moisturized or the shrinkage has set in I’m made to feel ashamed of it. When the curls are loose and bouncy, it’s “how did you get your hair like that” or “what do you use” like hun let natural hair be natural hair and stop picking on me when my hair appears in a state you don’t deem “desirable.” And it’s always by (older) black people too. Like why are they so ashamed?
I have 4a hair and ppl always ask when I will do something with my hair.
As a lightskin black woman with 3c hair, i agree that 4c hair is looked down upon way more. I don’t understand why they picked a lightskin woman with looser curls for their campaign. However i hate how whenever stuff like this happens people feel like they have to act like people with a closer proximity to whiteness don’t experience stuff, just to prove a point. Two things can be right at once. People with 4c hair should be centered and experience by texturism the most. That doesn’t mean people with 3c hair don’t experience it. Especially as someone who grew up with 3c/4a hair in a white area, seeing my biracial friends get complimented on their long 3b curls when my hair was ridiculed. People with a closer proximity to whiteness WITHIN the black community being pedestalized, does not equal us not experiencing the same discrimination within today’s society.
how do you know this? are you typically watching someone with curly hair get out of bed in the morning?? what? you know y'all can make your point without low key shading other bw's hair. and stop with the made up typing. those number are making you lose your minds. its' not even real
@@risenshineee7053but u don’t experience the same discrimination as us darkskin kinky 4c hair girls tho
3C hair texture is still seen as something that a white person could have, it’s pointless centring them when it comes to combating texturism. People like that often have non-black mothers or highly non-black privileged experience of growing up, however incremental. Their blind spots are often similar to the blind spots that white people have about racism.
I’m glad that you’re discussing
#Texturism and you mention the intersectionality between colourism, featurism (and I would say add fat phobia to the mix).
I wanted a longer vid! Lol
No but seriously such valuable work and your hair and unique style looks amazing
3C hair is still seen as unprofessional to white people. I have no idea where black women got along thinking it was but that's never been the case.
I agree that 3c hair should not be centered, but to say that those with 3c hair often have non-black mothers is really out there. Hair type can be attributed to a lot of genetic factors. It’s not just determined by the maternal line.
@@CyberMachine agreed! Maybe they work in companies and spaces with a lot of black folks, so that’s influencing their perceptions? I can tell you that in white majority companies, even extremely curly-haired white women don’t walk around with their hair out unless it’s straightened.
Now of course kinky-haired textures have it harder overall regarding texturism, but to act as if 3c curly hair is considered professional everywhere is a reach as well.
One of the reasons that the a certain phenotype is now representing Blackness in advertisements is that the casting agents white women. Many of whom have biracial children. I took my daughter to a casting call and every child that didn't look "mixed" was immediately dismissed even though the casting call was for Black girls. A few of the girls who were there with their white mothers were dismissed because they didn't look mixed enough. My family is from New Orleans so we are Black but look "biracial." A white mom of a biracial girl asked if I was, and I told her I was not. When her very brown daughter was dismissed she had the nerve to tell the casting agent while pointing at my daughter "Well she isn't really biracial!" I understood the agenda loud and clear.
I have relatives with hair like Lori Harvey and Chili (TLC) with two Blk parents. In addition, these relatives have both siblings and children with type 4 hair.
Tbh we need to redo the whole natural hair movement!!! Like I’m sorry but people with loose textured hair do not need to be apart of it!!
Yea! This time they need to be left out. But tbh i think thats why alot of bw joined it. If it was strictly type 4…i doubt they would like it
As someone with a looser texture I completely agree !!! A lot of us never had relaxers or anything anyway so it wouldn’t make any sense. I just say I have curly hair and leave it at that . Even tho I used to Beg my mom for a relaxer. So thankful she never gave me one 🤣
Agreed!
No. They should be a part of it. Just not the main feature. Bc curly girls have been shamed for their curls too. You all just don't realize it. This touches everyone except straight hair.
@@Leilexa Looser curled girls got their shot in the first round. All the women making money from “natural hair care” searches were women that looked just like you. They got their money and bounced, leaving all the type 4s in the dust.
You're one of the only people who consistently stand on unambiguous BLACKNESS. You don't understand how much I respect you and how much I wish people like you were more prevalent
Honestly ! I love her ❤
i wore my 4c natural afro to class and i was told i had so much hair its distracting but a mixed boy who wears his 3b afro EVERYDAY was never told anything. i was forced to put my hair into an industrial rubber band
omgg thats so bad im sorry. yeah I've heard other people express things like this too. smh our natural hair is always deemed as a problem.
@@princessprincess7708 unfortunately this is common, I know countless stories. Please don’t be so quick to dismiss something just because you may not have experienced it.
@@c45177once while working at bumb a** boutique😂.. they tried to ask me to come in looking like the other girls ( they wore makeup wigs etc).
I was always dressed nice (never wore makeup and wore my hair natural ( I didn't stay there long)😅
how could they force you to put a band around your head in class?? and you just did it?? what school is this? are you a minor? This story doesn't really hold water.
@@c45177 it's not that someone else hasn't experienced it, its that this particular story makes zero sense. so she just did what they said? didn't complain to someone?
I saw another video about this and I actually commented that the types of hair they showed i.e. 3c/4a hair is not seen as unprofessional it never has been, people should be authentic …
For folks to be authentic and actually acknowledge Black women is really and hard stretch for them.
as someone with 3c/4a hair, i agree!
@@myaabby2753 yup
I have 3c/4a hair and I agree!! I have always been referred to as the "dark-skinned girl with the pretty hair", it was always used as a positive against my "negative" skin tone.
Maybe it’s seen as professional in workplaces with a lot of back folks, but it’s definitely not in non-black spaces. Even extremely curly-haired white women will straighten their hair to look more “professional”.
4b/4c black woman definitely have it harder and face more discrimination and texturism for their hair at incomparable levels to their 3c/4a counterparts, but let’s not make inaccurate statements .
I saw that ad in my timeline. They were a lot of non-black women in the comment section sharing pictures of their 3A/3B/3C hair. They loocked just like the model which tells you it has nothing to do with black hair. Like you said : "black hair is the hair that no one else can have"
I am black and i have 3a 3b hair
@@mipanszouzouzouzoumipans7233 Black hair refers to hair that is exclusive to people of African descends aka 4a/4b/4c. The hair people discriminate against. You can be black and have 3a/3b hair but it's not black hair. Stop making this about you!!!
@@-of7mb 4a hair isn't black hair. It's literally curly and the only "acceptable" type 4 hair
@@thisiscloudiiB Go start your BS with someone else. Thank you
Once again it shows you WHO is actually in the room when these campaigns are approved 'cause clearly, it ain't a lot of women with 4C hair!
You never know…..we can be our own worse enemies due to self-hate🤷🏽♀
@@talisha5863 very true
When I wear my hair "natural" people ask me what I'm going to do with it 😭
yeah exactly, thats the narrative we need to be hearing from.
YES. THIS. 😢
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Texturism is definitely an issue! My hair texture was rejected when shorter. As soon as "kinky/nappy" hair gets long it's deemed beautiful. I've always believed my hair was beautiful by many but others couldn't see it until it flowed longer. SMH Texturism may not protect al hair types especially people who have 4c hair rather than a mixture of different types.
@@princessprincess7708 notice the quotes?? She's quoting what others say. NOT what she thinks. Come on. Stop looking for fights.
Even the numbers and letter labels of hair types represent texturism. The straightest hair type at the top beginning with 1 and the kinkiest at the bottom - 4.
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I have 4C hair and you are reaching with this one. The number 1 is straight just like the hair it represents, that’s one thing. Also the more intense something is the higher the number should be that represents it. A level 4 earthquake is more intense than a level 1 and a level 4 curl is more intense than a level 1 (non-existent) curl.
We got that 4C or should be better known as 9-ether hair. Look it up. It is more intense than a lower numbered level ether….
@@Superlife1369 4c hair was here first, no shade
It's a madeup system devised by Oprah's hairdresser to sell his product line. Instead of accepting this hair-typing as something real (when in reality it was just sold to you to sell something) why don't you just stop using it altogether. Stop classifying and 'typing' your own hair. you're just being manipulated
Calling this curly hair black hair is crazy cuz this hair texture is shared with non blacks like-😭
Black people(darkskin) also can have type 3 hair, I don’t know why yall think curly hair is exclusive to mixed people. Black people have type 4 to type 3 hair and different shades of darkskin.
@@MrAuthenticity999 well DUH, the point is that texturism is specifically abt kinky hair, and yes black ppl can have looser curls but so can non blacks, so how is that looser curl texture the face of “black hair” that literally makes no sense. When we think of black hair we think very kinky, because it’s the hair texture that most blacks people have and the most associated with black people, DUH.
@@rinarina9424 then stop calling mixed people black then, you guys complain about representation while simultaneously calling half breeds black, it’s contradictory, especially when you know non blacks will elevate them above blacks due to their phenotypical adjacency.
It’s giving Tia Mowry steeze. That is biracial hair. That is not Black hair🙄
@@LoveLaRieXO keep coping lol
That Dove ad in Africa is insane wth
The irony of a campaing for hair acceptence showing only polished forms of black hair.
People can't become less texturist over the years, when the praise still coincide with hair tamers.
We need to utilize terms like tiny coils, 80% shrinkage kinky, tight coils.
Yes
@@princessprincess7708 more importantly it won’t be confused with curly hair because in many ways products used as well as how it is handled along with tools and technique, how it is perceived in the workplace is quite different!
I remember having my hair super long in school. It was a “frohawk” and EVERYONE had something to say about it. “When you gonna do something with your hair?”, “You got really ninja hair” etc. Like why can’t we just walk around in our natural form without being harassed! It’s so annoying.
Also there are white women with that 3c texture shown in the add like........🤔, and the woman in the add looked biracial
You hit the nail on the head on a few points. I have never been a fan of Dove and I did NOT know they sell skin bleaching.
However, I do applaud them for "starting" the conversation, but let's not overlook the fact that they are only speaking out to make it seem like *our* struggle is their struggle. They are definitely reaching by featuring 3A-3C girls in their ads. Another point that you made that I have to co-sign is the comment about length. When I first got my locs like 5 years ago and they were barely at my shoulders after the shrinkage phase, I rarely got compliments. Now that my hair is below my bra strap I always get compliments and folks asking what I'm mixed with since my hair is so long 🙄.
Dove/unilever and almost every major cosmetics conglomerate (US/EU) actively promotes skin bleaching in MANY countries that have no laws or awareness around hydroquinone and related chemicals. They would put it on babies if they could :( we need to stop relying on these companies to represent us or even do the right thing, ALL of it is pretense to get our money.
Had the same experience. Had my locs for 8 years. They’re down to my belly button now and everyone wants to know what I’m mixed with. It’s always “what are you mixed with” instead of “ARE you mixed”.
You would be surprised at what major brands market overseas. From Johnson and Johnson , to L’Oréal and Revlon, all sell skin bleaching products in the Asian and sometimes the African markets.
When I saw that ad the biggest steeeeeeeeuppsss left my mouth because I'm like, 'Yall continue to leave the people out that are experiencing this *the* most, bar none.
OK. I agree with this. Cause I have 3c hair and white people are fascinated by it. Wanna touch it all the time. I think, overall, it's acceptable in our society. It's really ridiculous to show it as an example of discrimination.
I love that smile. Just picked out my 4c hair today into a big beautiful dry fro. I love it. You have helped me see myself in such a wonderful light, thank you 🙏🏽
Sounds micro aggressive if you ask me…
Why say dry?
@@angelc8737 If you've chased moisturizing 4C hair to appear aesthetically acceptable for decades, you'll know.
Thank you for pointing out the hypocrisy of Dove. I don't trust their intentions. I would not buy their products! They should NOT be on the front lines in speaking on or representing OUR issues and community.
All these fairy looks you’ve been giving us has been incredible! I seriously have to watch the videos twice because I get so distracted by the beauty!🥺
wait... is that ad real?! the one where the black girl turns into a white girl? my god! there should literally be a boycotting movement because of this, what the hell. how are we not making more noise.
Let's make some, and tell Everyone we know to Stop buying dove 👊🏾
This is why i stopped using dove
The bad is old. And the white woman turned into an Asian woman as well. Selective clips will trigger unnecessary outrage.
@@LoveAndSnapple that doesn't matter. if this ad was real it was horribly offensive. it doesn't matter if it's old or if it was part of a series of ads, it's still not something that should've been happening at all. I think the only way this could be excused as "a product of the times" is if it came from like the 1920s, which it clearly did not.
@@k4nd1incyb3rsp4c3 Okay, how is it offensive? If women are taking off their shirts into different women, how is a snapshot offensive? Is it just that part or is it the entire thing?
The black community can never truly cancel anything. They just get mad for a little while, look left and right to see if no one‘s looking, and go back to buying that thing that everyone was so angry about a moment ago. People are still shopping at H&M when with that monkey ad, people are still shopping at Gucci despite its consistent, blatant racism. And people are definitely still purchasing from dove.
6:27 All perming company's must be destroyed, I am tired of seeing women with processed hair. It makes me sick.
I mean people care wear their hair how they want....I'm just worried about their health lol. You sound like a hater.
This is so important to bring up, I'm glad you talk about the erasure. I had no idea Dove sold skin bleaching products in Africa! I'm so grateful to follow you because I definitely don't keep up with many companies and campaigns.
Also you do not miss and I stay OBSESSED with your eye looks!!!!
I have a feeling when the natural hair movement has its SUCCESSFUL resurgence, people will be thanking you for opening people's eyes! I LOVE what you're doing for Black people, particularly queer and neurodivergent Black people!
Leaving out 4c hair in texturist conversations is insane to me
You look STUNNING, and I love the matching blue gloss moment. But yeah, corporate activism as a whole seems unserious.
Funny thing too is in parts of the US (like california where i am) the curly hair is just as desirable if not not more than straight hair, at least for non black people and particularly black people
My hair is freeform. I also have 4c hair. I’ve applied to 150 jobs and I haven’t landed anything. When I saw this ad I was like … ok cool, where is 4c :/ …. Now I’ve been slowly taking out my locs to see if there will be a change
Dark and Lovely started pivoting to the natural hair community about 3 or 4 years ago. I do not know if it's been profitable, but clearly pandering to black hair community shift in interest
I am loving the eye makeup today and the hair updo is serving African Goddess!
You blew me away with the aesthetics today. And you are totally right! How they gonna talk about discrimination and not focus on the main people being discriminated against? It is so willfully ignorant.
Really odd about 3c hair being seen as "unprofessional". Most Latina women I know have 3c hair and I never hear anyone talking about them looking unprofessional or needing to change it. But black women's 3c hair is considered unprofessional? And 4c is not even being mentioned? Strange.
As a plus size 4B/C hair light skin black woman I live in this place of having a certain privilege for me being light-skin but still getting treated like shit for being fat and having kinkier hair. For the past week I wore a 3B curly wig and got some many compliments and called beautiful compared to when I wear my Afro. I’m still learning to embrace my hair especially since I’m a bigger girl use longer hair to hide my double chin. It’s a process but still going
We Africans need to start looking at, feeling and learning to care for this hair. Ourselves and others will be comfortable if we, without fear and with much confidence wear our hair out as it grows from our scalp. I started wearing my hair out this last year and my mum has asked me several times, aren't you going to plait?aren't you going to straighten your hair? do you go out like that? she genuinely looks concerned. All this time I have a wash and go on. This feeling is also what is reflected in the choice of models for this campaign, to say that, even for most Africans the models choice is what we prefer hence reflected in the campaign.
@@princessprincess7708 Actually majority are in what is now called "protective styles"... braids, weaves, wigs etc I live in Nairobi... and honestly it's rare to see women (my family members included) in their natural hairs out. I understand why but this is the reality
@Mel C haven't mentioned permed hair anywhere and thank you for educating me about the location of Nairobi. I appreciate 🙏🏾
I hate how white supremacy and anti-Black ideology has even permeated parts of Africa. Like we can't even be whole and content with our complexion in our NATIVE CONTINENT, where deep, rich melanin should be the standard, not something to try and erase. That hurts my heart.
That is not true, plenty of parts of Africa have not been touched by colonialism.
@@AnimalLover2400 Are you replying to me? If so, that's why I specified "parts of Africa".
I appreciate your content, and how it helps me love myself as a queer black woman. There are certain "isms" I don't experience, but I never wanna stop learning and listening! Please keep up the great work.
Stop fighting for visibility in spaces where we are not wanted!! These ppl are obviously colorist and we shouldn't waste our time
Thing is some of those places, We have no choice but to navigate them daily. So demanding to have a modicum of respect if not legal rights, is very valid.
Exactly! The world is RACIST! Dove is not owned or controlled by light skinned or biracial people
These are supposed to be our spaces. These are our conversations, yet they have hijacked the mic.
@@txLALA dove is your space
It's easy to say, but remember we live in the world! We ( as black people in the diaspora) are not an island, where what happens around us doesn't affect our mindset and development. The amount to damage done by the time we are old enough to recognise our beauty ( as black people) is not to be dismissed. I, for one, am grateful for the people who highlight and push back against damaging messaging and actions, for the sakes of all our children.
Your inner corner makeup is stunning. I had to watch twice because the first time I was blinded by what appeared to be butterflies fluttering.
I agree with this definitely. Dove is just trying to ride the wave. The attorneys and activists I know of working on the crown act are all Black women with locs and they aren’t even putting them on “their campaign.” I don’t have 4c hair but I definitely have had jobs make snide comments about my hair in the legal profession. I’m not sure what type it would be, maybe 4a and I’m not light skinned but obviously I wouldn’t put myself on the cover as the face of texturism. I do think the crown act would benefit everyone even women like the one they used bc texturism is different regionally. But not making excuses for their antiblackness.
ABSOLUTELY not surprised but still disappointed. Thank you so much for speaking on this and just colorism/texturism in general. I swear every time I watch ur vids I sigh in relief cuz the 4c/globally black experience is so isolating and the girlies be out hear gaslighting HEAVY 😫😫😫😫😫😫
ORS already came out with a “natural hair care line”
My body doesn't need to be there if my hair is a problem. In all settings
The crazy thing is 4c hair people started the natural hair movement. Just like everything else I'm feeling very separatist right now.
The woman used in this commercial looks like a mixed race woman that grew up amongst whites and that was teased for her curly hair. Especially if she had a non-black mother that did not know what to do with the girls hair.
In the black community on the other hand her looser curls would have gotten her privilige and it is very unlikely she would have used a relaxer. So it depends on what someone's ethnic and racial background is and where they were raised.
Don't give a fuck.
Mayowa!
I had to make all the ads play all the way thru to give you ALL your flowers!
Girl, I'm writing a book chapter on black women's hair and discrimination in the workplace. Plus I used to own a natural hair salon. Chile, you hit the nail on the head with every single point. Plus the face! Give us face!
I'm tired of these " Empowerment Ads" leaving out type 4.
You are absolutely beautiful.🦋✨
Are they referring to the same hair texture that Zendaya and Storm Reid are blasting everywhere online and in tv?
that part.
We are not surprised. Lol These companies are trying to make a PROFIT, whatever they have to tell people to keep the profit margins UP, they will do it. I heard someone say capitalism is inherently racist and I’ve continued to see that concept corroborated in examples like this. I love your spirit/energy 💕
TELL ‘EM! Thank you Mayowa
Girl I literally just looked up on YT "Dove skin bleaching" and found a BUNCH of videos of black and asian women bleaching their skin with really really aggresive products :( it broke my heart. I really thought this wouldn't be so normalized at least on YT
I love her hair, it’s beautiful regardless to what anybody has to say
I am not surprised.
Thanks for being you!
thanks for the video❤
Your hair is so beautiful and fitting for your face
I agree 💯 percent, like honestly I've recently started wearing hair that's closely related to mine
We put too much into being represented. Do your research and let your money speak for you. Stop watching shows that don’t represent you. Stop shopping at places that don’t represent you. Stop supporting these places. We’re always ready to complaint when we need to take action.
It's also important to bring awareness to it. Some people are so deeply psychologically rooted in European standards, that being/supporting colorism, feauturism, and texturism has become second nature for them. The people who are taking your advice are still outnumbered by the people who aren't even aware that they participate in these things.
Every 3 videos you’re in a different country. Love that for you.
You're in London I hope you enjoy your stay here 😊❣️ and yes it's still cold.
This eye look is freaking pretty! Great discussion as well!!
I will say that curly hair outside of Black culture is seen as undesirable (I have looser curls and I have been asked to straighten it and told my curly hair is unprofessional; I have also been asked why my hair is messy when it is just curly) - I will 100% agree that kinky hair is more discriminated against and I think, for me the biggest issue, is the continued belief that black people are only certain shades and certain hair types (keep trying to make us a monolith when we are not).
Dark and Lovely has been selling natural hair products for at least five years if not more. I tried one product, and it was trash so I trashed it.
I can’t say someone with type 3 couldn’t face discrimination but not to the extent of type 4. And most of the black people I know who look down look down on type 3 as well as 4 are afro-latinos like Dominicans and Puerto Ricans. Until recently the culture was only straight was considered acceptable. I agree a type 4c or at least 4 would have been a better choice.
I agree about how problematic it is showing non-4c hair textures in these adverts htat are supposed to be about hair discrimination. Just to add that our language needs to be revised also - when we talk about hair, for instance if we say our hair 'clumps together' it has a certain weight when we could instead say 'knits' 'meshes' 'marries' 'intertwines' ... We have to be careful that when we refer to ourselves, our family members and other black people our default terms aren't ones with negative connotations and it's not just what you grow up hearing so you perpetuate it generation after generation
Yes, yes, YES! Thanks for this, Sis!
I really love your hair like this, your locs are so pretty.
You are sooooo on point with this! And I am loving the hair and makeup - Celestial vibes!!!!
I’m jealous b/c the 4c girls have the prettiest faces.
Unfortunately, I wouldn’t expect anything less because it seems like every time there’s some sort of progress, something like this happens 🤦🏽♂️
Love your commentary and especially your makeup! Simply flawless sis!❤😍
This makes me wonder if there was a black person in charge. I'm not trying to be rude, but when it comes to hair, white people do view it slightly different than black people. Like I heard a white woman call her relative's curly hair crazy (she wasn't trying to be rude, but she was trying to point out how his hair was different from the rest of the family because he's part Puerto Rican). His hair was like Mirabel's hair. To black people, we wouldn't call that crazy, but things are viewed differently by white people.
Always supporting you, your channel teaches me a lot. ❤
Your makeup is so creative and beautiful! It's giving a beautiful space/night sky vibe.
thank you!!
you look beautiful!! absolutely glowing!! and as always points were made. also congrats on your variety show!!
This makeup, darling! So beautiful. This should truly be your signature look.
And oh by the way, I love your content. Keep up the good work I ♥ ya Mayowa.
I love my 4C hair and I wear it unashamedly. ❤
Omg speaking of hair yours is looking SPECTACULAR on this video 💅❤
Mayowa you look so good! 😍😍😍😍😍
Interested to also know if these are unambigious Black or mixed women surveyed 'cause you KNOW they love a one-drop rule...
Great point about companies that play the field. As for the 3C of it all, lets not forget that big fluffy, curly hair was once in fashion (i.e. the 80s). Then at some point Julia Roberts straightened her hair and it became silly for anyone to have natural hair. Jennifer Aniston has had the same haircut for 30 years. As contemporary (and ridiculous) as it sounds, the folx have always been at war with their own image. Anything outside the trend was demonized. We all know that Marilyn was Norma Jean. As long as the predominant gaze is pale male, femininity will always be reduced to their Barbie dreams. Enter marketing, and theres no room for reality at all. We need to put our energy elsewhere, but we either WANT to be in or CANT AVOID spaces that reinforce this nonsense. Best to all.
This lip gloss is so pretty
Wow! You called it out. I am mostly 4c for sure and sick of people side eyeing me as soon as my hair is out yet combed nicely and healthy. 🙄
The ad with the t-shirt is disturbing, we don't need that, your hairs really growing, nice to see you in my neck of the woods! I'm glad I have locs now feel more comfortable in my own skin!
I so love that I found your channel through the Desirability video where you mention Khelani and whatnot. Your makeup and hair is always so beautiful, you're definitely a fairy🧚🏽♀️✨
thank you so much for speaking up! i am really thankful for your work ☀and your makeup!! so stunning, i am obsessed! sending much love to you
Giving us Avatar Way of the Water vibes