That’s a great idea. There’s a reason why airline crashes make the news, because they are so rare. Can you imagine the news reporting on every single car crash? Hundreds a week.
On the bright side, there are 0 or almost 0 pilots that drink alcohol or take drugs whereas there are millions of drivers everyday who take them before driving. Meaning that plane have almost 0 chances crashing just because the pilot is drunk.
You are correct, but the difference for me is I'm in control of what I drive. I've had my cdl's for 30 years. I've only had 2 minor accidents caused by other's negligence. And I started driving when I was 9 yrs old.
"There’s a reason why airline crashes make the news, because they are so rare" - Unfortunately that's true. It's usually the rarity -- not the severity or seriousness -- which makes something newsworthy. For contrast, look at gun violence in the U.S. There are mass shootings literally every day (more than one per day, actually), but only a relative few get any press coverage (which makes it appear that the problem is not as serious as it is).
@@darkshadowgamingiiI've got some bad news for you. While this problem is very rare it's not quite that rare. But that strongly dependent on the country and size of the airline. The airline industry does the best out of all the transport industries on preventing this sort of thing. It's also probably the best it's ever been at preventing that sort of thing. But it's also good to admit that some airline / countries need to improve their safety enforcement. There's a reason why the EU bands some international Carriers.
But in this sense, all these pilots go through so much training and there's so much technology that they can guarantee that people can mostly feel safe. Driving is a whole different story. Too many people get their licenses after 5 mins behind the wheel and don't care about road safety and anybody but themselves
@@ananas_annabruh that's such a misleading comment. lol Sure, you're way "more likely" to die in a car crash than plane crash, but guess what? You're also way more likely to SURVIVE a car crash than a plane crash, so I'll take my chances on the road 😂
@@ULTRAMusicMixes No, you just don't understand anything. Planes have incidents and emergency landings all the time, and very rarely is anyone seriously injured or killed. Your problem, like many people, is lack of control. If given the choice between a gun with six chambers and one bullet to play Russian Roulette with, and a gun with 10,000 chambers and one bullet but someone else shoots at you, you'll want to choose the first one. That's literally what you're doing. The math doesn't care how you feel or if you append your comments with laughing emojis.
That's a great program. I am absolutely terrified of flying and finally took my first flight this past January. I shed a few tears on the takeoff and was VERY anxious. But I made it without any medication or panicking. The second flight to come home was much, much better. Just having that experience was enough to make me far more relaxed the second time around. I really enjoyed looking out the windows, especially on the return flight that landed after dark. It was fun seeing the cars on the freeways and the different towns and cities from up above.
That's amazing! I always find the first flight after a while is the hardest one. This summer I had 5 flights total, and hadn't flown in I think about 4 or 5 years. The first flight I was a bit anxious, but was prepared to handle my anxiety, and once we were almost at cruising altitude I was fine. The rest of them I felt little to no anxiety, even on the return flight 3 weeks later.
I always loved looking out the window. It's incredible how much you can see, and how much detail you can make out from so far away. I always look at the cars on the roadways and think about how they're just going about their day, no idea that someone in an airplane is watching them. I imagine the roles reversed and consider how I would never think to imagine someone up in a plane a half a mile or maybe a mile or more away is just looking out the airplane window at my very car. It's such a strange thing.
As someone who's always loved anything flight related ive never understood fear of flying. Im not judging, just fascinated at what makes people afraid and what doesn't. People should fear driving to the airport since your over 100 times more likely to die per mile driving then flying. People also fear driving on the interstate more then two lane and undivided highways for some reason, but again, the interstate is the *safest* road to drive on statistically. I will be honest though, there are probably plenty of things that *should* scare me that I love doing. Id go base jumping in a second if I was in physical condition to do it and could afford the training. And I can't think of much stuff more dangerous then that (maybe hiking in western ukraine right now could be more dangerous).
@@bp968 Because WE aren’t in control when flying. I have faith in my own driving skills, but having faith in a total stranger that you’ll never meet is not even comparable. We’ve seen plenty of airplane crash documentaries of irresponsible airplane pilots that screw up, so one is hoping they didn’t get stuck with one of those. That’s just ONE aspect of it.
@@georgewashington2930you’re right There has been multiple instances where pilots have been flying a plane with mental health issues. GermanWings flight for example. As well as pilots who haven’t had a damn clue what to do with an emergency strikes, and they completely freeze up and make all the wrong decisions. Particularly third world airlines. You’re literally putting your life in the hands of someone you’ve never ever met. And then you’re blindly trusting the fact that the airline mechanics have actually done their job properly. Again, worse with third world airlines who scrimp on maintenance. I don’t scrimp on maintenance for my car And it’s only worse these days with diversity hiring. I’ve been driving since I legally could drive. I’m currently 27, been driving for a decade now, not once come close to a serious accident or been involved in any minor ones because I trust my own skills and I know that I’m a better driver than most people. I grew up racing go carts and driving off road since I was 11. So anyone who gets in a car with me is probably in some of the safest hands they could be
Irrational fear is so real. I had zero problems ever with flying until one time a lady next to me had a panic attack during heavy turbulence. Believe it or not it gave my unconscious mind a fear of flying, even after dozens and dozens of flights throughout my life having no thought of it. Statistics and reason don’t calm the primitive mind. Often, convincing can take a massive amount of effort.
Honestly the worst part about having a phobia is people really don’t understand that no amount of logic and reason can dispel it. They always try to logically explain to you why you should not have it and the whole time you’re like “yeah that’s the point. I know it’s illogical but it doesn’t stop my brain from reacting the way it does”
@@yamato6114Logic and reason can help though, in the sense that that's exactly what British Airways "use" in this course. What I mean is that the majority of such fears are rooted in a lack of knowledge about what's going on, and thus people having to take a "leap of faith" in trusting that this thing works - while not having any idea _how or why._ Like, "we're all say in this big metal tube, can only see the outside through this little side window, it does all these scary movements and make strange sounds, and we can only hope that the pilots up front have a clue." Oh, and then you only tend to only really hear about flights that have gone wrong, sometimes horribly so. Education about how planes work and are flown, their safety measures, and all the associated "peripheral" systems and workings can really help in making people (more) at ease with it all.
@@yamato6114adding to what @mnsx said, which has absolutely been proven - exposure therapy, which this course basically is, is also the standard therapy for phobias, which means that you will prove to your body and mind that you're safe and nothing will happen to you. The more you do it, the least you will feel afraid. Take fear of height for example. Technically everyone begins to feel jittery and dizzy when being up high since it is a warning sign from the amigdala in your brain that you are in a potentially life threatening situation, so it increases the adrenaline levels in your body to heighten your senses and improve your reaction time. That isn't "fear of height", but everyone who isn't often exposed to heights will say they have it because of that jittery feeling they get. It's just a healthy warning system that can be desensitized by exposing yourself to heights more often and training your body to deal with it. But ofc there are also people who have a pathological fear of heights and will get stuck in the flight, freeze or fawn response to it and either run away or become unable to move and suffer a range of physical symptoms like nausea + vomiting, sweating, heart palpitations, severe vertigo, loss of balance, fainting etc. Those people will actually need professional help dealing with their phobia, and that is why it's so great that this program has not just people on board who can explain "how it works" but also those who know how to help with the physical and mental effects. So it doesn't matter if you're someone whose warning system is a bit in overdrive or someone with a full blown phobia. Both types can be helped and it has nothing to do with that fear being "irrational" or not. I hope you will be able to deal with your fear or phobia if it's something that keeps you from living your life the way you want to. 🫂
I’ve done it, it’s a very expensive course so BA aren’t doing it as a good act. It is a good course though, your phobia has to be pretty significant to justify the cost
@@WhereyougoingNogzI'm fortunate in that overcame my fear of flying in my teens. I watched the ease with which others took to the skies. Talking to them really helped and, as a frequent flyer, nothing troubles me now. My friend Barbara took the British Airways course and she learned what was totally normal and how Pilots don't have a death wish. She's so happy to fly now.
This felt extravagant at first because I’m not in a position where I fly regularly, or need to, but then I realized that for people where travel is a significant part of their job or life, this could be so helpful for them. What a great concept
@@99mgmost flight emergencies still land with zero casualties - in Europe the flight accident (not even where someone is hurt or dies) rate is literally zero because it’s 0.48% per MILLION. You’re still safer in a broken plane than a car crash :)
i'm no scared of flying, i'd take the course out of curiosity of how a plane works and some insight. The best part is the acceleration before taking off, i love to feel the power!
Same! I love that acceleration for takeoff, and the feeling as the plane lifts off from the ground. Except for the physical discomfort from the seats and my medical condition, I love flying! I'd still love to take the course though, just to learn more and nerd out
I love flying, and one of my favorite aspects of an airline flight is the immense amount of energy required to slow the plane down upon landing. There's just so much raw power, from the engines using reverse thrust, to the spoilers deploying, to the threshold braking of the wheels. The resulting cacophony of sound, vibration, and deceleration makes for an exhilarating experience.
I used to be scared of strong turbulence. Like when it feels like the wings are going to fall off. Than I learned these planes are designed to survive hurricane force winds. And the wings can flex to something like 110 degrees.
'Fear of flying' courses have been around for decades. My airline ran them in the eighties and nineties. We had ex-WW2 bomber pilots who had seen their friends killed during the war come along. They had kept flying, and performed their duties during the war, however when they came home, they couldn't go near an aircraft. Some attendees couldn't even put a foot on the step to climb into the aircraft during a familiarisation - even though the aircraft was staying on the ground. Some suffer from claustrophobia as well. That's why flight attendants are trained to never extinguish all the cabin lights on evening flights. Many of the attendees these days are business people who need to fly for work purposes. Some have lost their jobs after arriving at business meetings under the influence, as they had to drink in order to get themselves onto the aircraft.
@@KeithHays-ek4vr well, thanks 🙂 No one has said that before, they all laugh at me if I mention how I have had a panic attack at 35,000 ft and since then am anxious before flight
@@sadia2395 Hope you don't mind me asking, but what are you doing that you need to fly 15+ hours every few months? That's like... Australia to China or something. 😆
@@VitZ9 Work in Toronto, fly home to see ageing parent in Delhi.15 hrs non stop flight 🙂 I had a panic attack on a short haul flight from Abu Dhabi to Doha for no reason 🤷🏻♀️😅 and since then my relationship with flyim is complicated 😮💨
When I get nervous on a plane, I always tell myself “people flew in wooden versions of these things with bullets flying at them and still somehow survived so I’ll be fine”
Rawdogging is ridiculous. Cannot think why anyone would think that was a good idea or remotely fulfilling, just watch a movie or play a game ffs. Sitting there doing nothing wide awake for 12 hours is the stuff of a psychopath.
Honestly while I see people getting mocked over this, I really like this idea. Just because something is easy for you or even most people doesn't mean it's easy for everyone.
I hope they don’t get mocked, though. Taking action to overcome a fear is so courageous. They could just avoid flying, but they want to face their fear and beat it. That’s not weakness, it’s strength!
@@BeeWhistler Agreed! I hope they won't get mocked but they probably will, but you are absolutely right, they shouldn't be, it takes courage and patience to face our fears, especially irrational ones like phobias.
Having a phobia is not stupid and should not be mocked. Burning as much kerosene as a few hundred cars burn fuel in a year for this, when there are much easier ways to treat a phobia, is deeply stupid and deserves to be mocked.
Something that I would like to see added to that course would be a demonstration of some of the tests that an airliner has to go through before being certified to fly in Europe. Some of these tests include bending the wings 90 degrees to make sure that they can spring back to their original positions. The wings are also tested by wiggling them back and forth for several months to make sure that they won't come apart. The engines are tested by ingesting 80% water to make sure that they keep running. The engines are also tested for bird strikes. Landing gear are tested to ensure that they can extend and lock without hydraulic pressure. The plane itself is tested to ensure that it can take off with just half of it's design thrust. (50% engine failure). There is also an aborted take off test where the brakes are left to burn for several minutes to make sure that a fire in the wheels can't spread.
That sounds like a good idea. I hate flying and recently I experienced my first failed landing attempt due to bad weather, but thinking about how it's probably a normal Tuesday for the pilots kept me surprisingly calm
A violently shaking plane will cause me to panic regardless of how much "education" I've received. I'm not even concerned that the plane might crash. It's just a primal, visceral reaction.
It’s actually not. There’s nothing inherently dangerous about being shaken a bit (as long as you can’t fall). After all, babies are soothed by being jiggled. This is a learned response, even if it feels inherent.
@@floodlime8620 My point was that it's not possible for me to rationalise my way out of the panic. For me it's nothing to with with logic or rationality (at least not on a conscious level). All the facts and reassurance in the world wouldn't make a difference - for me and I'm sure many others, the course wouldn't help.
There's a lot of techniques for lowering anxiety and most work on that visceral, nervous system level as well as the cognitive level. But few things are a 2 minute fix, it's about habitual physiological responses, so it takes time to put these things into practice in the body (often over time/gradually) if your immediate physical reaction is working against what your head wants. You might want to look into it sometime. eg. You could start with trying some "grounding" techniques. I think they work in the sky too! ☁️
@@wkt2506 Thanks, yes I'm sure it can be remedied but like you say it won't be a quick fix. I very rarely have reason to fly (it's been 8 or 9 years) and normally when I do I have no problems. Just one time as a child there was some turbulence upon descent which made me throw up and ever since I've been worried about that happening again. Perhaps I'll look into grounding before next time.
I was at the back of a plane, during a fight through Asia. Worst turbulence of my life. I was having to hold onto the arms of my seat, to avoid being thrown around like a ragdoll. It lasted a few minutes. Felt like a rodeo. When it finally died down, this hulk of a dude turned to me, and said "thank fuck that's over". Couldn't of really said it better. I actually normally enjoy a little bit of turbulence, but that was awful.
This is how everything should be addressed Explain preparation Explain protocol Explain training Life is better when shit is explained to you, especially from an early age
I just know there's people on this course who are just there for fun Some avgeeks deffo pay for the experience, not even that expensive, £400 for a full day of presentations, tours & a flight! Nice day out for some
That's probably because you can see how generally at least 5 different rare and catastrophic failures have to occur to bring a plane down 😅 The holes on the Swiss cheese lining up, they call it
Sure, I can see that. Knowing about pilots who were distracted and never extended the flaps, landed on a closed runway, let their children fly the plane, forgot to check cabin pressure, or decided upon murder/suicide helped me too.
Wow what a great program!! Kudos to British Airways for implementing this. The options for British to travel inevitably will include flying due to geographical location, so this program would definitely be beneficial to those who have a fear of flying.
That's really good. I suffered from general anxiety disorder and was nervous about flying even though I had flown in my younger days. My fear wasn't "what if I crash" or anything like that, it was more "what if I get an anxiety attack aboard the flight and then I can't get off". A quick 40-minute hop would certainly have helped. (When I met my now-wife, a lot of the anxiety just melted away. I was anxious during my first flight with her but it was manageable, and I take flights frequently enough that I have no troubles anymore.)
Mine was at a private airport outside of Detroit, my Aunt worked there, I met a lot of celebrities and pro sports teams, but I was terrified of flying. So one day, I show up after school because I was living with my Aunt at the time, and this Pilot, his name was “Tacky” he was about 72 hears old, took me and my Aunt up in a little 4 seater that he owned, he let me sit co-pilot and we just did a giant circle around the airport. He let me take control for about 30 seconds. It was fun and im not afraid of flying anymore. RIP Tacky! And thank you for that memory! I was only 10 and it was pre 9/11 by only a few months or else that wouldn’t have happened as easily.
I wish we had something like this offered regularly in the USA. I have two relatives with a fear of flying who aren't that willing to get on a plane and go places - one has driven 800 miles to avoid a 2 h flight. It'd be great to be able to take them up on something like this where it's being explained very well and help them feel more comfortable with it.
It's not sooo irrational in the US. Some airlines have a...let's just say.... strange interpretation of "safety first" Just avoid flying AA, don't get beaten on board United and bring duct tape to fix parts that fall off their planes, check if the FAA still fines Southwest regularly for faulty maintenance and avoid the shady, small regionals that pay their pilots a lower wage than a bus driver and who fill several wikipedia pages for incidents they had and you are good 😑
@@mxp14242 First half went very well with British Ariways pilots. Second part with psychologist I didn't think was as good. Flight after went excellent, but it was a good weather day and perfect for flying. I don't think anyone panicked and got off before we took off, but one person was crying loads but overall it went really well. Thank you.
@@falconvelocity I'm sorry, I didn't realise there would be people who actually fear flying here. I thought the program was just an excuse to offer aviation fans a short, interesting flight. In the case of phobias, I don't think facing them like this is a good approach. But I'm glad you enjoyed your flight and perhaps found a new hobby or even a future career in aviation.
@@99mg They were talking from a statistics point of view instead of experience. It's true that you're pretty much done for if a plane falls from cruising altitude, but the _vast_ majority of plane crashes don't happen like that. Most accidents happen on takeoff and landing, when the plane is slow, close to the ground, and nearby emergency services. Something like 80% of plane crashes have survivors. And even if you're at a high altitude and something happens, it's still very uncommon that the plane just falls out of the air. Aircraft are pretty sturdy and make great gliders
I somehow got over a terrible fear if flying just by getting annoyed with myself and adopting a fkit attitude. It's worked for 15 years now. Understanding all the noises, especially when landing, also helped. Turbulence can still be bad, but getting pssd off with yourself and saying enough is enough may work for you.
that method worked with my fear of socialization lol. i was always afraid of going up to desks for appointments or talking to random people. at some point i started thinking to myself "why you gotta be a fucking pansy all the time?" and pushed myself to be more social, it worked. Still dont like talking to people but im not afraid to.
@@novarat4089 Very nice. I had a name for it: The 'stop being rubbish' campaign, and I was the leader and only member. The brain works in mysterious ways.
@@novarat4089 this program would definitely be a great place for 4 Chan to troll.. if 4 Chan could scare enough people to seriously dent airlines ticket prices we might have affordable flights instead of paying 1k for a fight to the uk.
The course is very expensive. c£400 so only worth it if the phobia is quite severe. But it is very well designed and I personally that it was worth it for me. If you’ve done the whole course before but need more practice flying, you can sign up just for the flight bit, but you have to have done the whole thing before. The guy next to me on the plane hadn’t flown in 20 years and was terrified, but was determined to take his daughter on holiday for her 18th - hope he did!
@@99mg On the other hand, airplanes can land safely with zero working engines or landing gears. Hell you could even disable both ailerons! Also its a miracle of you survive any type of car crash over 80kph.
I was fine flying until an incident of severe clear air turbulence in 2008. Every passenger "knew" we were going down...until we didn't. The captain, in his 50s with 20,000 flight hours, said that he had never experienced anything like it before. It was a red-eye from LAX to ORD but we diverted to Denver for mechanical inspection and to deal with the injured (anyone not buckled in) which included all 4 flight attendants. The drink cart lifted up and landed on one. Anyway, I still fly when I absolutely must and I do ok except for turbulence. My brain understands that CAT is so rare that it'll never happen to me again, but my fear is at the cellular level and doesn't respond to logic.
If it makes you feel any better almost no planes have crashed because of turbulence, planes want to stay in the air. Even if the engines die they can glide for hundreds of miles, turbulence is scary but it's like bumps in the road, it's not actually life threatening. But everyone should keep their seatbelt on so they don't hit the roof 😅
Watching UA-cam channels about plane crashes has made me a more calm flyer. I now know why crashes are so rare, many many things have to go wrong for a flight to crash, and that just doesn't happen all that often.
I had customer frightened of flying. He worked for the UN. Said he was onboard aircraft in Africa had a near miss. He stopped flying affecting his job. So had trial lesson with me in Piper. Months later he came back and gave me a bottle of wine, saying thanks, he now flies commercial again.
@@flybobbie1449I looked up to what that meant. From Wikipedia: "On 18 September 1961, a DC-6 passenger aircraft of Transair Sweden Flight 001, operating for the United Nations, crashed near Ndola, Northern Rhodesia (present-day Zambia). The crash resulted in the deaths of all people on board, including Dag Hammarskjöld, the second secretary-general of the United Nations, and 15 others"(title: Transair Sweden Flight 001). Edit: the plane was a Douglas DC-6B.
Took me a second to realize that 98% success rate meant the amount of people who successfully passed the course, not the safety record of these planes.
I like that they take people through the airport as well, the whole getting through customs, finding your gate, etc etc can be really anxiety inducing.
I think it's because of the way flight numbers are structured, as I remember seeing 4 digit flight numbers used for alliance codeshares, and I may be wrong about this, but I think they're also used for partner airline codeshares and charter flights, while I think 2 and 3 digit flight numbers are reserved for bookable domestic and international flights.
Car crashes usually happen in a moment, you are not too much aware that someone will crush to you. From other side, imagine dozens of people who are sitting in a plane and waiting the final moment seconds before they hit the ground, knowing that they will probably be dead and burned very soon. Just take a look at some recent plane crash videos, where a plane is falling from the sky and after that all you can see is a big mashroom of fire in the distance. That is the reason why I think plane crashes are way more worse than a car crash.
I was petrified of heights. Forced myself to go skydiving. Did over 100 jumps. Was also very claustrophobic. Advanced scuba diving sorted that. Then public speaking. I just remind myself I jumped out of a plane and this is nothing. Its an awesome feel when you are fearful of nothing. Face your fears no matter how you do it!
I finally got over my fear of speaking in public / in front of a public during a bachelor's degree. It was the realisation that because i'd studied and researched the subject, I knew the most about it out of everyone in that room. Since then I've held workshops or given training to groups of complete strangers of up to 90 people. Yes there's a feeling of nervousness - are the slides in order? Didn't I leave any out? But once I'm there, and I've started the introduction, it all just flows.
I love flying but I hate flying. I love planes, airports etc but when I'm in the air....I'm VERY nervous. I can't watch the plane turn when it's turning on my side of the plane, I have bad anxiety when we take off and when we land and don't get me started on turbulence.I once sat next to a BA pilot who was not working. He knew I was nervous and happily told me some things to help me. He said that he's only ever had one problem on the plane in the whole 35 yrs he's been flying. An engine failed. He then had to get to the nearest airport to land within 3hrs. My first thought was, what if that happened over an ocean and it'll take longer than 3hrs? I can still get on a plane but all whats going on in my brain is "What if a bird hits the engine as we're taking off?, what's that noise? Among many other things that are swirling in my head. I try and remember that plane travel is far safer than going in a car and what the BA captain says to me but I'm still worried, which is why I make sure I have alcohol before my flight to calm my nerves. Then I think, if we do crash at least I'll be numb and it won't hurt as much. Think I need to do this course.
Planes have a rating on how long they can fly after an engine failure. If a plane has an ETOPS rating of 3 hours, in other words it has to land within 3 hours of an engine failure, then it can't fly through any airspace that's more than 3 hours from a runway. That includes military bases as well as commercial.
@@funnythings5644 Planes always fly within 3 hours of a landing place. You would be amazed how many airstrips there are apart from main airports. I feel for you because I had a severe fear of flying and would spend a whole flight keeping the plane up with my mind!! Thats how bad and far gone my brain was with fear, I truly believed that if I concentrated hard enough I could keep the plane up! I stopped flying for many years and then I met my a man who is now my husband, he is Australian and I am Uk!! I HAD to get back on a plane for the longest flight ever!! 2 planes infact. I forced myself to do it and conquered my fear.
Airports have special teams and methods to discourage birds from being in their airspace. Because starting and landing are the times when a bird in the engine is a really big problem. This is why birds in more than 1 engine on take-off is extremely rare - and even then your pilot can still do stuff to save you. Sure, not everyone will be as experienced as Mr. "Sully" Sullenberger, but every incident gets investigated and gets included into pilot training later. The whole industry learns from incidents and regulations get updated. There's a tv series about how Heathrow Airport is run, maybe they have an episode about how they chase off birds? There's a German series about Frankfurt Airport which uses the same concept and they had an episode about this and also about how there's special people to keep the runways clean so no trash gets sucked into the engines during take-off either.
I can only imagine how dreadful it could be to be flying and not know what the various normal noises mean (like the gear and flaps extending/retacting), or the slight bumps that are part of normal operations and how they coukd stress someone out. I have no fear of flying but I'm glad that those who live near enough to attend can take this. Shame that no airlines on the western side of the Atlantic offer similar courses for people.
@@westerlywinds5684with motion sickness it helps to see the horizon. This way your body and mind get the same information. I believe ginger can help against the nausea.
@@westerlywinds5684 don't eat too much too quickly (especially greasy food), stay hydrated, something with ginger, like ginger beer if they have it, avoid buying seats at the back of the plane if possible (they tend to be bumpier, which can make nausea so much worse), and i always find reading in any kind of vehicle makes my motion sickness awful, so try not reading anything if you do that during a flight. the horizon thing someone else mentioned is also a good idea.
So a flight for going nowhere ? A flight just for making more customers for your flight company ? This reminds me of the empty flights during covid just to secure their slots on flights routes Thats just fuckin great
I don't really like flying, because it's so boring, and I actually prefer when there's some light turbulence, cause it makes it more fun. But god I love take-off so much. The louder the engines the better.
On my flight from America to Australia, coming back from holiday, I got more relaxed when there was slight turbulence and was able to sleep easier than when there was none. It’s calming to me.
I love this idea. It's helpful for people fearful of things like flying, and roller coasters, that you're far more likely to get in a car crash on your way to an airport or amusement park than have a dangerous accident in the air or on an amusement park ride. And we still drive or ride other road vehicles. We get scared by statistics, but we don't often think of the reverse of those - for every dangerous situation on a plane, or even car crashes, countless flights and road vehicles travel to their destination without issue.
LoL people in the comments think they mean 98% of the flights are a succes = safely returning. But they mean 98% of people have successfully overcome their fear of flying with this course.
@@eUK95 Lol. If the airlines "conquer your fear of flying" flight only has a 98% chance of safely returning, I don't think they'd be helping too many people, or advertising it. 😆 "How was Jimmy's "fly with confidence" flight?" "Great! The plane crashed and now he's all over it."
@@eUK95Then you should know it's also obvious that at least 1 person must have thought this. You're assuming people think fully logically. That's a wild assumption. Don't overestimate people, ever. I know the vast majority won't think this. But with how many people there are, there is most certainly at least 1 lol.
I’m very glad this exists. Both my parents are afraid of flying and it was passed on to me. I’ve only overcome my fear of flying by getting myself pretty drunk. I couldn’t imagine flying sober but having something like this to help me I think would do a lot of good.
they're not losing money over it.... kinda, bc all airlines operate on the red, as you might know already. but it's good marketing (just see the comments), plus all those clients will have a special place for BA, will also probably sign their membership mileage BS and so on. while paying for it. might not profitable and takes a lot of effort in a business you're counting pennies to cut off costs, but might be worth it in the long run. So it needs to be BA to do it, couldn't be a RyanAir.
Well i am very confident in aviation but i absolutely hate the long queues at the airport and the stress at the security check all to then wait at least an hour until you can finally board the plane. So i don’t have any fear of flying but don’t like to do it because of the security checks and stupid waiting at the airport (also environmental concerns)
I'm not sure how fears are unlocked, but it's possible that their fears of height and flying could be replaced with fears of crashing. Either way, the psychologists in the area would see a boost in clients.
I love this. When i was in university, i was scared to fly, but my best friend, who was in flight school at the time, explained a lot of the same things to me, which really helped me beat that fear.
I think flights are so fun!!! The rapid acceleration and climbing are both so cool. The view out the window is amazing. I worry more about motion sickness, screaming children, and a neighbor with covid than I do about crashing or something like that. Lol. For me, looking out the window at the passing terrain helps prevent motion sickness because when your eyes see movement, your inner ears suddenly agree with your eyes and proprioceptive input and you don't feel sick. 👍 Benadryl or Dramamine works great too. Dramamine is literally Benadryl with a stimulant mixed with it so it doesn't make you tired.
As a frequent flyer, I love this idea. So many people miss out on life experiences, either because they won’t go at all out of fear, or because they spend the entire time focusing on nothing but their fear. Or worse yet, diminishing the experience of the people around them, because they let an irrational fear become the problem of everyone in earshot. Fear is displaced by knowledge, and the more you learn about how aviation actually works, the more you realize how exceedingly safe it actually is.
This is a great idea. I too don't really like flying. On my first flight i just cried (when i was younger). I watched dozens of documentaries and just told myself how safe they are and now only properly get nervous when landing. Still get panicky but deal much better overall and have flown long distances.
What a wonderful program for those fearful of flying! I had a friend who had to fly a few times and had to take medication for the anxiety almost to the point of sedation and she still struggled to fight panic. She planned her honeymoon by arriving by train to their destination. I’m sure many are like her and would benefit by this program.
I've been on alot of planes. I don't get scared by them as I'm used to them Cuz I've used them since i was a kid. But this is a great idea and i totally support any other airlines that would do the same thing. Good for you, BA!
A lot of people hear about past accidents and it causes a phobia or nervousness around flying on planes - but every time i start to get anxious, it helps to remember: every single accident that happened has resulted in more and more safety measures and fixes that make flying safer and safer every time. Accident --> investigation --> find the cause --> install a solution in the forms of laws, additional training, physical upgrades, etc!
They also released a 'flying with confidence' book which I won't say cured my fear but it made it SO much better. I went from spending 3+ hours terrified to being a bit nervous at take off and then being able to actually relax and enjoy the flight. I would 100% recommend the book to anyone who can't do the course.
That’s a great idea. There’s a reason why airline crashes make the news, because they are so rare. Can you imagine the news reporting on every single car crash? Hundreds a week.
On the bright side, there are 0 or almost 0 pilots that drink alcohol or take drugs whereas there are millions of drivers everyday who take them before driving. Meaning that plane have almost 0 chances crashing just because the pilot is drunk.
You are correct, but the difference for me is I'm in control of what I drive. I've had my cdl's for 30 years. I've only had 2 minor accidents caused by other's negligence. And I started driving when I was 9 yrs old.
"There’s a reason why airline crashes make the news, because they are so rare" - Unfortunately that's true. It's usually the rarity -- not the severity or seriousness -- which makes something newsworthy. For contrast, look at gun violence in the U.S. There are mass shootings literally every day (more than one per day, actually), but only a relative few get any press coverage (which makes it appear that the problem is not as serious as it is).
@@darkshadowgamingiiI've got some bad news for you. While this problem is very rare it's not quite that rare. But that strongly dependent on the country and size of the airline.
The airline industry does the best out of all the transport industries on preventing this sort of thing. It's also probably the best it's ever been at preventing that sort of thing. But it's also good to admit that some airline / countries need to improve their safety enforcement. There's a reason why the EU bands some international Carriers.
@@nomore6167guns aren't the issue ❤
This is a really good thing. Being educated by experienced pilots and airport staff is a perfect way to reassure people
Hopefully it stays that way... 👀😮💨🙄
Isn't it a big waste of fuel?
@@nekto4658why?
It also promotes more flying, which is good for their business model
@@tadeaspekar9043 you're flying people to nowhere pretty much, so it's quite wasteful
Glad it's around for people.
Now if only there were a course that taught drivers a phobia of distracted driving.
Or just driving in general. Driving is easily the most dangerous activity that most people regularly do.
sadly vehicles are far to safe for Darwin to win.
But in this sense, all these pilots go through so much training and there's so much technology that they can guarantee that people can mostly feel safe. Driving is a whole different story. Too many people get their licenses after 5 mins behind the wheel and don't care about road safety and anybody but themselves
@@ananas_annabruh that's such a misleading comment. lol Sure, you're way "more likely" to die in a car crash than plane crash, but guess what? You're also way more likely to SURVIVE a car crash than a plane crash, so I'll take my chances on the road 😂
@@ULTRAMusicMixes No, you just don't understand anything. Planes have incidents and emergency landings all the time, and very rarely is anyone seriously injured or killed.
Your problem, like many people, is lack of control. If given the choice between a gun with six chambers and one bullet to play Russian Roulette with, and a gun with 10,000 chambers and one bullet but someone else shoots at you, you'll want to choose the first one. That's literally what you're doing. The math doesn't care how you feel or if you append your comments with laughing emojis.
The most dangerous part about flying is the drive to the airport.
nah its getting thru TSA
😂😂😂😂😂
That’s actually a great take because it’s true
After the car ride, it’s the vending machines
unless you're a passenger with Aerosucre.
That's a great program. I am absolutely terrified of flying and finally took my first flight this past January. I shed a few tears on the takeoff and was VERY anxious. But I made it without any medication or panicking. The second flight to come home was much, much better. Just having that experience was enough to make me far more relaxed the second time around.
I really enjoyed looking out the windows, especially on the return flight that landed after dark. It was fun seeing the cars on the freeways and the different towns and cities from up above.
That's amazing! I always find the first flight after a while is the hardest one. This summer I had 5 flights total, and hadn't flown in I think about 4 or 5 years. The first flight I was a bit anxious, but was prepared to handle my anxiety, and once we were almost at cruising altitude I was fine. The rest of them I felt little to no anxiety, even on the return flight 3 weeks later.
I always loved looking out the window. It's incredible how much you can see, and how much detail you can make out from so far away. I always look at the cars on the roadways and think about how they're just going about their day, no idea that someone in an airplane is watching them. I imagine the roles reversed and consider how I would never think to imagine someone up in a plane a half a mile or maybe a mile or more away is just looking out the airplane window at my very car. It's such a strange thing.
As someone who's always loved anything flight related ive never understood fear of flying. Im not judging, just fascinated at what makes people afraid and what doesn't. People should fear driving to the airport since your over 100 times more likely to die per mile driving then flying.
People also fear driving on the interstate more then two lane and undivided highways for some reason, but again, the interstate is the *safest* road to drive on statistically.
I will be honest though, there are probably plenty of things that *should* scare me that I love doing. Id go base jumping in a second if I was in physical condition to do it and could afford the training. And I can't think of much stuff more dangerous then that (maybe hiking in western ukraine right now could be more dangerous).
@@bp968
Because WE aren’t in control when flying. I have faith in my own driving skills, but having faith in a total stranger that you’ll never meet is not even comparable. We’ve seen plenty of airplane crash documentaries of irresponsible airplane pilots that screw up, so one is hoping they didn’t get stuck with one of those.
That’s just ONE aspect of it.
@@georgewashington2930you’re right
There has been multiple instances where pilots have been flying a plane with mental health issues. GermanWings flight for example. As well as pilots who haven’t had a damn clue what to do with an emergency strikes, and they completely freeze up and make all the wrong decisions. Particularly third world airlines. You’re literally putting your life in the hands of someone you’ve never ever met. And then you’re blindly trusting the fact that the airline mechanics have actually done their job properly. Again, worse with third world airlines who scrimp on maintenance. I don’t scrimp on maintenance for my car
And it’s only worse these days with diversity hiring. I’ve been driving since I legally could drive. I’m currently 27, been driving for a decade now, not once come close to a serious accident or been involved in any minor ones because I trust my own skills and I know that I’m a better driver than most people. I grew up racing go carts and driving off road since I was 11. So anyone who gets in a car with me is probably in some of the safest hands they could be
Irrational fear is so real. I had zero problems ever with flying until one time a lady next to me had a panic attack during heavy turbulence. Believe it or not it gave my unconscious mind a fear of flying, even after dozens and dozens of flights throughout my life having no thought of it. Statistics and reason don’t calm the primitive mind. Often, convincing can take a massive amount of effort.
Honestly the worst part about having a phobia is people really don’t understand that no amount of logic and reason can dispel it. They always try to logically explain to you why you should not have it and the whole time you’re like “yeah that’s the point. I know it’s illogical but it doesn’t stop my brain from reacting the way it does”
@@yamato6114Logic and reason can help though, in the sense that that's exactly what British Airways "use" in this course. What I mean is that the majority of such fears are rooted in a lack of knowledge about what's going on, and thus people having to take a "leap of faith" in trusting that this thing works - while not having any idea _how or why._
Like, "we're all say in this big metal tube, can only see the outside through this little side window, it does all these scary movements and make strange sounds, and we can only hope that the pilots up front have a clue." Oh, and then you only tend to only really hear about flights that have gone wrong, sometimes horribly so.
Education about how planes work and are flown, their safety measures, and all the associated "peripheral" systems and workings can really help in making people (more) at ease with it all.
EMDR
I had the exact same experience, except the lady was a flight attendant... lol
@@yamato6114adding to what @mnsx said, which has absolutely been proven - exposure therapy, which this course basically is, is also the standard therapy for phobias, which means that you will prove to your body and mind that you're safe and nothing will happen to you. The more you do it, the least you will feel afraid.
Take fear of height for example. Technically everyone begins to feel jittery and dizzy when being up high since it is a warning sign from the amigdala in your brain that you are in a potentially life threatening situation, so it increases the adrenaline levels in your body to heighten your senses and improve your reaction time. That isn't "fear of height", but everyone who isn't often exposed to heights will say they have it because of that jittery feeling they get. It's just a healthy warning system that can be desensitized by exposing yourself to heights more often and training your body to deal with it.
But ofc there are also people who have a pathological fear of heights and will get stuck in the flight, freeze or fawn response to it and either run away or become unable to move and suffer a range of physical symptoms like nausea + vomiting, sweating, heart palpitations, severe vertigo, loss of balance, fainting etc. Those people will actually need professional help dealing with their phobia, and that is why it's so great that this program has not just people on board who can explain "how it works" but also those who know how to help with the physical and mental effects. So it doesn't matter if you're someone whose warning system is a bit in overdrive or someone with a full blown phobia. Both types can be helped and it has nothing to do with that fear being "irrational" or not.
I hope you will be able to deal with your fear or phobia if it's something that keeps you from living your life the way you want to. 🫂
That is a W for BA we need more people to be comfortable on planes and that’s what BA is doing so well done BA
I’ve done it, it’s a very expensive course so BA aren’t doing it as a good act. It is a good course though, your phobia has to be pretty significant to justify the cost
@@Runnerboy2012How much was it ? 😮
@@malicahamilton about £400
All this information is literally available if you ask a member of the cabin crew or you see the Internet
Very true
I did this course in December of 2023 and couldn’t recommend it more - such an informative day in a really supportive environment
What did you learn?
Do you feel confident flying now? Genuinely asking because I just can’t! But would definitely go on this if it really did help
This is absolutely pathetic.
@@WhereyougoingNogzI'm fortunate in that overcame my fear of flying in my teens. I watched the ease with which others took to the skies. Talking to them really helped and, as a frequent flyer, nothing troubles me now.
My friend Barbara took the British Airways course and she learned what was totally normal and how Pilots don't have a death wish. She's so happy to fly now.
How much was it
Pilot: "let me begin by saying this is a Boeing plane"
Crowd: 👀
Only true avgeeks know what that means
@@TheRealThrownPotato astronauts: 👀
There are literally thousands of Boeing planes in the sky at any given point every single day flying without a hitch
@@davidkamerath7749 ok boeing
@@davidkamerath7749all of them spiraling helplessly towards hell at terminal velocity
This felt extravagant at first because I’m not in a position where I fly regularly, or need to, but then I realized that for people where travel is a significant part of their job or life, this could be so helpful for them. What a great concept
Imagine if there would be emergency landing during this "fly with confidence" program💀
or the cabin compression mask fall down
Could only happen to aircraft made by that specific company 😂🤣
They always say that flying is safer than driving.. but you can survive a car crash! If a plane is going down, all of you are done for 😂 remember that
@@99mgmost flight emergencies still land with zero casualties - in Europe the flight accident (not even where someone is hurt or dies) rate is literally zero because it’s 0.48% per MILLION. You’re still safer in a broken plane than a car crash :)
@@hazelenglish9340 it was a joke ☺️ but thanks for the statistics
i'm no scared of flying, i'd take the course out of curiosity of how a plane works and some insight. The best part is the acceleration before taking off, i love to feel the power!
Same! I love that acceleration for takeoff, and the feeling as the plane lifts off from the ground. Except for the physical discomfort from the seats and my medical condition, I love flying! I'd still love to take the course though, just to learn more and nerd out
Same.@@ReyOfLight
I love flying, and one of my favorite aspects of an airline flight is the immense amount of energy required to slow the plane down upon landing.
There's just so much raw power, from the engines using reverse thrust, to the spoilers deploying, to the threshold braking of the wheels.
The resulting cacophony of sound, vibration, and deceleration makes for an exhilarating experience.
I used to be scared of strong turbulence. Like when it feels like the wings are going to fall off. Than I learned these planes are designed to survive hurricane force winds. And the wings can flex to something like 110 degrees.
They always say that flying is safer than driving.. but you can survive a car crash! If a plane is going down, all of you are done for 😂 remember that
'Fear of flying' courses have been around for decades. My airline ran them in the eighties and nineties. We had ex-WW2 bomber pilots who had seen their friends killed during the war come along. They had kept flying, and performed their duties during the war, however when they came home, they couldn't go near an aircraft. Some attendees couldn't even put a foot on the step to climb into the aircraft during a familiarisation - even though the aircraft was staying on the ground. Some suffer from claustrophobia as well. That's why flight attendants are trained to never extinguish all the cabin lights on evening flights. Many of the attendees these days are business people who need to fly for work purposes. Some have lost their jobs after arriving at business meetings under the influence, as they had to drink in order to get themselves onto the aircraft.
Oh no,losing their jobs over it.sheesh. I feel claustrophobic as well, and I have to get on 15hr flights every few months
😵💫
@@sadia2395 - I respect your courage to get on an aircraft feeling that way. Well done.
@@KeithHays-ek4vr well, thanks 🙂 No one has said that before, they all laugh at me if I mention how I have had a panic attack at 35,000 ft and since then am anxious before flight
@@sadia2395
Hope you don't mind me asking, but what are you doing that you need to fly 15+ hours every few months?
That's like... Australia to China or something. 😆
@@VitZ9 Work in Toronto, fly home to see ageing parent in Delhi.15 hrs non stop flight 🙂 I had a panic attack on a short haul flight from Abu Dhabi to Doha for no reason 🤷🏻♀️😅 and since then my relationship with flyim is complicated 😮💨
When I get nervous on a plane, I always tell myself “people flew in wooden versions of these things with bullets flying at them and still somehow survived so I’ll be fine”
meanwhile some of us are rawdogging 12 hour intercontinental flights
Hopefully not too often & yous offset your CO² 👍🏻
Rawdogging is ridiculous. Cannot think why anyone would think that was a good idea or remotely fulfilling, just watch a movie or play a game ffs. Sitting there doing nothing wide awake for 12 hours is the stuff of a psychopath.
@@halfbakedproductions7887 bluepilled
Honestly while I see people getting mocked over this, I really like this idea. Just because something is easy for you or even most people doesn't mean it's easy for everyone.
People are just looking for a cheap, easy way to attack other's simply because their minds might be wired a bit different or have an irrational fear.
I hope they don’t get mocked, though. Taking action to overcome a fear is so courageous. They could just avoid flying, but they want to face their fear and beat it. That’s not weakness, it’s strength!
@@BeeWhistler Agreed! I hope they won't get mocked but they probably will, but you are absolutely right, they shouldn't be, it takes courage and patience to face our fears, especially irrational ones like phobias.
Having a phobia is not stupid and should not be mocked. Burning as much kerosene as a few hundred cars burn fuel in a year for this, when there are much easier ways to treat a phobia, is deeply stupid and deserves to be mocked.
@@gamlaman? treatment involves exposure and ultimately that end point is going to need to be getting on a flight.
The 2%☠️
Its the course, not the planes bro😂
@@adam0_519 The "98% success rate" still made laugh tho!
Some say those 2% of planes are still flying back to Heathrow to this day...
lol was looking for this comment 😂
stubborn mfs
This is perhaps the best method I’ve seen for promoting a brand AND boosting future passenger profits. 😊
There's no way these people will fly anything but BA now😂
Also prices starting from £395. I don't think they're making a loss on the sessions
Something that I would like to see added to that course would be a demonstration of some of the tests that an airliner has to go through before being certified to fly in Europe. Some of these tests include bending the wings 90 degrees to make sure that they can spring back to their original positions. The wings are also tested by wiggling them back and forth for several months to make sure that they won't come apart. The engines are tested by ingesting 80% water to make sure that they keep running. The engines are also tested for bird strikes. Landing gear are tested to ensure that they can extend and lock without hydraulic pressure. The plane itself is tested to ensure that it can take off with just half of it's design thrust. (50% engine failure). There is also an aborted take off test where the brakes are left to burn for several minutes to make sure that a fire in the wheels can't spread.
That sounds like a good idea.
I hate flying and recently I experienced my first failed landing attempt due to bad weather, but thinking about how it's probably a normal Tuesday for the pilots kept me surprisingly calm
You're better off than the birds. ;-) 🪦
A violently shaking plane will cause me to panic regardless of how much "education" I've received. I'm not even concerned that the plane might crash. It's just a primal, visceral reaction.
It’s actually not. There’s nothing inherently dangerous about being shaken a bit (as long as you can’t fall). After all, babies are soothed by being jiggled. This is a learned response, even if it feels inherent.
@@floodlime8620 My point was that it's not possible for me to rationalise my way out of the panic. For me it's nothing to with with logic or rationality (at least not on a conscious level). All the facts and reassurance in the world wouldn't make a difference - for me and I'm sure many others, the course wouldn't help.
There's a lot of techniques for lowering anxiety and most work on that visceral, nervous system level as well as the cognitive level. But few things are a 2 minute fix, it's about habitual physiological responses, so it takes time to put these things into practice in the body (often over time/gradually) if your immediate physical reaction is working against what your head wants.
You might want to look into it sometime.
eg. You could start with trying some "grounding" techniques. I think they work in the sky too! ☁️
@@wkt2506 Thanks, yes I'm sure it can be remedied but like you say it won't be a quick fix. I very rarely have reason to fly (it's been 8 or 9 years) and normally when I do I have no problems. Just one time as a child there was some turbulence upon descent which made me throw up and ever since I've been worried about that happening again. Perhaps I'll look into grounding before next time.
I was at the back of a plane, during a fight through Asia. Worst turbulence of my life. I was having to hold onto the arms of my seat, to avoid being thrown around like a ragdoll. It lasted a few minutes. Felt like a rodeo.
When it finally died down, this hulk of a dude turned to me, and said "thank fuck that's over".
Couldn't of really said it better. I actually normally enjoy a little bit of turbulence, but that was awful.
This is how everything should be addressed
Explain preparation
Explain protocol
Explain training
Life is better when shit is explained to you, especially from an early age
Yes! Luckily, more and more people are understanding this, rather than using sanctions and violence to scare people in line like we used to for ages.
Nah im not scared of flying, im here for the flight.
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let me fix that for you
I just know there's people on this course who are just there for fun Some avgeeks deffo pay for the experience, not even that expensive, £400 for a full day of presentations, tours & a flight! Nice day out for some
@@Kirbo104wow really saved his life
@@EnglishScripter fr
@@d.b.cooper1sorry pal i'm not getting into a flight with you we made that mistake once
I watch Air Crash Investigations, for some reason that helped me alot
That's probably because you can see how generally at least 5 different rare and catastrophic failures have to occur to bring a plane down 😅 The holes on the Swiss cheese lining up, they call it
yep, i never was afraid to fly really but i've watched a lot of them and helped ease my nerves
I feel like a large part of it is that you get to see what is learned from accidents and how flying becomes safer as a result
Sure, I can see that. Knowing about pilots who were distracted and never extended the flaps, landed on a closed runway, let their children fly the plane, forgot to check cabin pressure, or decided upon murder/suicide helped me too.
I watch ACI while flying too!
I hope those 2% who couldn’t complete the course will someday be able to overcome that fear.
Wow what a great program!! Kudos to British Airways for implementing this. The options for British to travel inevitably will include flying due to geographical location, so this program would definitely be beneficial to those who have a fear of flying.
This is so awesome. I used to have VERY bad anxiety when flying, exposure is the best way to slowly overcome it.
yea, fears in general. to truly overcome it you needa get used to exposure
I am extremely impressed! What a great program! Well done to every single person involved in a program like this!
That's really good. I suffered from general anxiety disorder and was nervous about flying even though I had flown in my younger days. My fear wasn't "what if I crash" or anything like that, it was more "what if I get an anxiety attack aboard the flight and then I can't get off". A quick 40-minute hop would certainly have helped. (When I met my now-wife, a lot of the anxiety just melted away. I was anxious during my first flight with her but it was manageable, and I take flights frequently enough that I have no troubles anymore.)
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This is awesome!!
Bring this to the U. S.
Im sure it would really help some people. Excellent!
Mine was at a private airport outside of Detroit, my Aunt worked there, I met a lot of celebrities and pro sports teams, but I was terrified of flying. So one day, I show up after school because I was living with my Aunt at the time, and this Pilot, his name was “Tacky” he was about 72 hears old, took me and my Aunt up in a little 4 seater that he owned, he let me sit co-pilot and we just did a giant circle around the airport. He let me take control for about 30 seconds. It was fun and im not afraid of flying anymore. RIP Tacky! And thank you for that memory! I was only 10 and it was pre 9/11 by only a few months or else that wouldn’t have happened as easily.
I wish we had something like this offered regularly in the USA. I have two relatives with a fear of flying who aren't that willing to get on a plane and go places - one has driven 800 miles to avoid a 2 h flight. It'd be great to be able to take them up on something like this where it's being explained very well and help them feel more comfortable with it.
You most likely do. Lost of airlines do this.
The crazy part is that they are so much more likely to die by driving than by flying
Well, you could always fly here and do the course... oh wait...
@@robertianhawdon lol
It's not sooo irrational in the US. Some airlines have a...let's just say.... strange interpretation of "safety first"
Just avoid flying AA, don't get beaten on board United and bring duct tape to fix parts that fall off their planes, check if the FAA still fines Southwest regularly for faulty maintenance and avoid the shady, small regionals that pay their pilots a lower wage than a bus driver and who fill several wikipedia pages for incidents they had and you are good 😑
Going on my course next Saturday! really looking forward to it.
How did it go?
@@mxp14242 unfortunately they didn't make it back to the airport
@@AutoRauto Reckon ya sense of humour is perhaps best for another channel.
@@mxp14242 First half went very well with British Ariways pilots.
Second part with psychologist I didn't think was as good.
Flight after went excellent, but it was a good weather day and perfect for flying.
I don't think anyone panicked and got off before we took off, but one person was crying loads but overall it went really well. Thank you.
@@falconvelocity I'm sorry, I didn't realise there would be people who actually fear flying here. I thought the program was just an excuse to offer aviation fans a short, interesting flight. In the case of phobias, I don't think facing them like this is a good approach. But I'm glad you enjoyed your flight and perhaps found a new hobby or even a future career in aviation.
As a kid, I love and hate flying because I had a fear of flying. This is definitely a good idea for people who have fears of being over the horizon.
They always say that flying is safer than driving.. but you can survive a car crash! If a plane is going down, all of you are done for 😂 remember that
@@99mgthat's actually not true, that's another misconception is that everyone automatically does when a plane goes down
@@jevinday oh, you've experienced a plane going down? How did you survive?
@@99mg They were talking from a statistics point of view instead of experience. It's true that you're pretty much done for if a plane falls from cruising altitude, but the _vast_ majority of plane crashes don't happen like that. Most accidents happen on takeoff and landing, when the plane is slow, close to the ground, and nearby emergency services. Something like 80% of plane crashes have survivors. And even if you're at a high altitude and something happens, it's still very uncommon that the plane just falls out of the air. Aircraft are pretty sturdy and make great gliders
I need this. I’m an alcoholic in recover - flying is one of those things I haven’t even dared to do sober because of the anxiety.
“Return to its destination” is not a phrase I’d ever expect to hear.
This is brilliant for BA’s brand loyalty among the people in these classes. Excellent business move.
I somehow got over a terrible fear if flying just by getting annoyed with myself and adopting a fkit attitude. It's worked for 15 years now. Understanding all the noises, especially when landing, also helped. Turbulence can still be bad, but getting pssd off with yourself and saying enough is enough may work for you.
that method worked with my fear of socialization lol. i was always afraid of going up to desks for appointments or talking to random people. at some point i started thinking to myself "why you gotta be a fucking pansy all the time?" and pushed myself to be more social, it worked. Still dont like talking to people but im not afraid to.
@@novarat4089 Very nice. I had a name for it: The 'stop being rubbish' campaign, and I was the leader and only member. The brain works in mysterious ways.
@@novarat4089 this program would definitely be a great place for 4 Chan to troll.. if 4 Chan could scare enough people to seriously dent airlines ticket prices we might have affordable flights instead of paying 1k for a fight to the uk.
The course is very expensive. c£400 so only worth it if the phobia is quite severe. But it is very well designed and I personally that it was worth it for me.
If you’ve done the whole course before but need more practice flying, you can sign up just for the flight bit, but you have to have done the whole thing before.
The guy next to me on the plane hadn’t flown in 20 years and was terrified, but was determined to take his daughter on holiday for her 18th - hope he did!
All you had to do was get on a widebody.
£400 to get rid of your flying phobia sounds like a bargain to me
@@caha9583 oh I don’t regret it as I say, it doesn’t get rid of the phobia but it definitely helps
£400 is great value
Just get on a normal flight then!
This should be at all major airports.
How thoughtful! This is great!
this is so sweet 🥹 more airlines need to do it!!
It's sweet to the tune of 400 pounds
They always say that flying is safer than driving.. but you can survive a car crash! If a plane is going down, all of you are done for 😂 remember that
@@99mg On the other hand, airplanes can land safely with zero working engines or landing gears. Hell you could even disable both ailerons! Also its a miracle of you survive any type of car crash over 80kph.
@@99mg This comment paid for by Big Car
What a fantastic program to offer! Well done, BA.
All they want is more butts in seats. $$$
I was fine flying until an incident of severe clear air turbulence in 2008. Every passenger "knew" we were going down...until we didn't. The captain, in his 50s with 20,000 flight hours, said that he had never experienced anything like it before. It was a red-eye from LAX to ORD but we diverted to Denver for mechanical inspection and to deal with the injured (anyone not buckled in) which included all 4 flight attendants. The drink cart lifted up and landed on one. Anyway, I still fly when I absolutely must and I do ok except for turbulence. My brain understands that CAT is so rare that it'll never happen to me again, but my fear is at the cellular level and doesn't respond to logic.
If it makes you feel any better almost no planes have crashed because of turbulence, planes want to stay in the air. Even if the engines die they can glide for hundreds of miles, turbulence is scary but it's like bumps in the road, it's not actually life threatening.
But everyone should keep their seatbelt on so they don't hit the roof 😅
What rick said. No loose things in an airplane. Buckle up and nothing will happen. You do use your belt buckles in, your car why not in an aircraft?
@@rickskellig4652 thank you for this genuinely helpful comment!
Apparently turbulence is getting worse due to climate change, this is not helping my fear of it at all 😅
I love this!!! This should be more widespread.
Watching UA-cam channels about plane crashes has made me a more calm flyer. I now know why crashes are so rare, many many things have to go wrong for a flight to crash, and that just doesn't happen all that often.
That's a very helpful program.
For?
I had customer frightened of flying. He worked for the UN. Said he was onboard aircraft in Africa had a near miss.
He stopped flying affecting his job. So had trial lesson with me in Piper. Months later he came back and gave me a bottle of wine, saying thanks, he now flies commercial again.
A near miss? UN worker? Would he have been on, hammarskjølds plane or what? 😅
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@@flybobbie1449I looked up to what that meant. From Wikipedia: "On 18 September 1961, a DC-6 passenger aircraft of Transair Sweden Flight 001, operating for the United Nations, crashed near Ndola, Northern Rhodesia (present-day Zambia). The crash resulted in the deaths of all people on board, including Dag Hammarskjöld, the second secretary-general of the United Nations, and 15 others"(title: Transair Sweden Flight 001). Edit: the plane was a Douglas DC-6B.
Took me a second to realize that 98% success rate meant the amount of people who successfully passed the course, not the safety record of these planes.
Dear Lord, please let it be the safety rating of that flight cuz it will be so funny. 🙏
I like that they take people through the airport as well, the whole getting through customs, finding your gate, etc etc can be really anxiety inducing.
They should say when you get to the airport "congrats, you just did the most dangerous part!"
Ryanair has a similar offering. Instead of calling theirs "Flying with Confidence" , they opted for "Shut-up, Sit Down, and Pay-up"
And, you get to experience a landing like butter. Frozen butter.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Flight 9240? They had a chance to make it Flight 404 (for Flight Not Found) or Flight 101 (since it's a fear of flying "class")
9M-MRO (the MH370 aircraft) was the 404th Boeing 777 manufactured. No joke.
@@halfbakedproductions7887 That seems too weird to be true. Do you have a source to back this up?
Better not make it Flight 500. 💀😅
I think it's because of the way flight numbers are structured, as I remember seeing 4 digit flight numbers used for alliance codeshares, and I may be wrong about this, but I think they're also used for partner airline codeshares and charter flights, while I think 2 and 3 digit flight numbers are reserved for bookable domestic and international flights.
@@halfbakedproductions7887 What do you mean?
It still doesn’t take motion sickness away. I tried everything. I’m sick from start to finish.
Yah obviously. Motion sickness is a physiological issue. You need to take medication for that
@@yaush_ I cannot participate in any game or fun park rides either.
@@westerlywinds5684well try to relax I guess?
Tried meds, like scopolamine/hyoscine? Works wonders and available OTC.
@@Communist-Doge Thanks for the tip. I will consult.
What a nice idea. I’m so glad it’s helpful for people
Car crashes usually happen in a moment, you are not too much aware that someone will crush to you. From other side, imagine dozens of people who are sitting in a plane and waiting the final moment seconds before they hit the ground, knowing that they will probably be dead and burned very soon. Just take a look at some recent plane crash videos, where a plane is falling from the sky and after that all you can see is a big mashroom of fire in the distance. That is the reason why I think plane crashes are way more worse than a car crash.
people who live outside Europe and so are forced to take a flight so they can get to the UK
The only people who are forced to take a flight are the people who are deported for being "illegal".
Otherwise it's a choice
@@Tomsm8 who? How? What?
Or you know....Take the channel tunnell via your own car or train on the eurostar? Or even a Ferry maybe?
I was petrified of heights. Forced myself to go skydiving. Did over 100 jumps. Was also very claustrophobic. Advanced scuba diving sorted that. Then public speaking. I just remind myself I jumped out of a plane and this is nothing. Its an awesome feel when you are fearful of nothing. Face your fears no matter how you do it!
I finally got over my fear of speaking in public / in front of a public during a bachelor's degree. It was the realisation that because i'd studied and researched the subject, I knew the most about it out of everyone in that room. Since then I've held workshops or given training to groups of complete strangers of up to 90 people. Yes there's a feeling of nervousness - are the slides in order? Didn't I leave any out? But once I'm there, and I've started the introduction, it all just flows.
I have no such fears but my life is still shit.
@@AllisterCaine that just means you have a head start on the rest of us! I hope it improves for you!
I love flying but I hate flying. I love planes, airports etc but when I'm in the air....I'm VERY nervous. I can't watch the plane turn when it's turning on my side of the plane, I have bad anxiety when we take off and when we land and don't get me started on turbulence.I once sat next to a BA pilot who was not working. He knew I was nervous and happily told me some things to help me. He said that he's only ever had one problem on the plane in the whole 35 yrs he's been flying. An engine failed. He then had to get to the nearest airport to land within 3hrs. My first thought was, what if that happened over an ocean and it'll take longer than 3hrs?
I can still get on a plane but all whats going on in my brain is "What if a bird hits the engine as we're taking off?, what's that noise? Among many other things that are swirling in my head. I try and remember that plane travel is far safer than going in a car and what the BA captain says to me but I'm still worried, which is why I make sure I have alcohol before my flight to calm my nerves. Then I think, if we do crash at least I'll be numb and it won't hurt as much.
Think I need to do this course.
Planes have a rating on how long they can fly after an engine failure. If a plane has an ETOPS rating of 3 hours, in other words it has to land within 3 hours of an engine failure, then it can't fly through any airspace that's more than 3 hours from a runway. That includes military bases as well as commercial.
@@funnythings5644 Planes always fly within 3 hours of a landing place. You would be amazed how many airstrips there are apart from main airports. I feel for you because I had a severe fear of flying and would spend a whole flight keeping the plane up with my mind!! Thats how bad and far gone my brain was with fear, I truly believed that if I concentrated hard enough I could keep the plane up! I stopped flying for many years and then I met my a man who is now my husband, he is Australian and I am Uk!! I HAD to get back on a plane for the longest flight ever!! 2 planes infact. I forced myself to do it and conquered my fear.
Different result if it catches fire, and THAT'S not all that rare. Stopping is no fun then, either.
Airports have special teams and methods to discourage birds from being in their airspace. Because starting and landing are the times when a bird in the engine is a really big problem. This is why birds in more than 1 engine on take-off is extremely rare - and even then your pilot can still do stuff to save you.
Sure, not everyone will be as experienced as Mr. "Sully" Sullenberger, but every incident gets investigated and gets included into pilot training later. The whole industry learns from incidents and regulations get updated.
There's a tv series about how Heathrow Airport is run, maybe they have an episode about how they chase off birds? There's a German series about Frankfurt Airport which uses the same concept and they had an episode about this and also about how there's special people to keep the runways clean so no trash gets sucked into the engines during take-off either.
I'm not usually a fan of clapping when an airplane lands, but in this context, it's just so heartwarming. 😊
Thanks to UA-cam!!!! I need to go on this course now
Love flying. Just hate other passengers.
That’s public transport in general for you. The “public” part. Cars are superior
I can only imagine how dreadful it could be to be flying and not know what the various normal noises mean (like the gear and flaps extending/retacting), or the slight bumps that are part of normal operations and how they coukd stress someone out.
I have no fear of flying but I'm glad that those who live near enough to attend can take this. Shame that no airlines on the western side of the Atlantic offer similar courses for people.
I would like to know how deal with motion sickness. I’m nauseous the minute it takes off to the landing. No class can help with that.
@@westerlywinds5684with motion sickness it helps to see the horizon. This way your body and mind get the same information. I believe ginger can help against the nausea.
@@westerlywinds5684 don't eat too much too quickly (especially greasy food), stay hydrated, something with ginger, like ginger beer if they have it, avoid buying seats at the back of the plane if possible (they tend to be bumpier, which can make nausea so much worse), and i always find reading in any kind of vehicle makes my motion sickness awful, so try not reading anything if you do that during a flight. the horizon thing someone else mentioned is also a good idea.
@@silly6517 Thank you for your advice.
My morbid fucked up sense of humor keeps imagining a scenerio where the flight goes down 😅
You’re not helping 😂
Even in that situation you have a 60% survival rate. The drive to the airport is more dangerous.
@@wb3904 What? It was just a joke. You know. Like, the irony of a short flight designed to get people over their fear of flying going down.
@@ishmaboy I'm sorry that irony flew over my head
I'd like to see the audience reaction when they mention the 98% success rate, they'd be so scared they'll be the 2%
So a flight for going nowhere ? A flight just for making more customers for your flight company ?
This reminds me of the empty flights during covid just to secure their slots on flights routes
Thats just fuckin great
If I saw the cockpit screens flicker that much, I would be a fearful flyer too.
You wouldn't notice them flicker, it's the same as if you filmed an older style crt moritor or tv, only looks like that to the camera
What do the 2% of failures look like??
98% of ppl feel safe flying after this
@@Britishdumber Bro didn't read what he replied to
@HandsomeManNamedTony I didn't read anything, I watched a short that said they have a 98% success rate, which implies they have a 2%failure rate.
@@HandsomeManNamedTony he did read actually, he's talking about what the commenter had wrong.
ones who will never be convinced flying is safe
I don't really like flying, because it's so boring, and I actually prefer when there's some light turbulence, cause it makes it more fun. But god I love take-off so much. The louder the engines the better.
On my flight from America to Australia, coming back from holiday, I got more relaxed when there was slight turbulence and was able to sleep easier than when there was none. It’s calming to me.
What’s to cost? That is something I'd be interested in knowing.
BA offers different courses but the “Primary Course” (a full day) is £395. The next course is in late September and is almost full!
@@AM-mv6ro Thanks. Such an interesting idea. I have no fear of flying but I love that they do this.
I love this idea. It's helpful for people fearful of things like flying, and roller coasters, that you're far more likely to get in a car crash on your way to an airport or amusement park than have a dangerous accident in the air or on an amusement park ride.
And we still drive or ride other road vehicles. We get scared by statistics, but we don't often think of the reverse of those - for every dangerous situation on a plane, or even car crashes, countless flights and road vehicles travel to their destination without issue.
That's fantastic! All I need to do is fly across the Pacific to get there... Wait.
LoL people in the comments think they mean 98% of the flights are a succes = safely returning. But they mean 98% of people have successfully overcome their fear of flying with this course.
Nobody thought that lol
@@eUK95
Lol. If the airlines "conquer your fear of flying" flight only has a 98% chance of safely returning, I don't think they'd be helping too many people, or advertising it. 😆
"How was Jimmy's "fly with confidence" flight?"
"Great! The plane crashed and now he's all over it."
@VitZ9 yeah I'm saying nobody would have thought that haha its obvious they meant the success rate of the course not the flights
@@eUK95Then you should know it's also obvious that at least 1 person must have thought this. You're assuming people think fully logically. That's a wild assumption. Don't overestimate people, ever. I know the vast majority won't think this. But with how many people there are, there is most certainly at least 1 lol.
@@brentywenty true, plenty of idiots
Good idea but it’s quite expensive for a trip to nowhere.
But if that cost now enables you to successfully fly later, it’s worth it
@@KnawedOneor you could just grow up and hop on the plane when you actually need to…
Imagine if that short flight had issues, yeah.... those passengers are not coming back 😂
Exactly!! 🙄🙄🤣🤣
pilot: we lost an engine!!!!!...........
......oh wait there it is!🤪
passengers: NEVER STEPPING FOOT IN AN AIRPLANE AGAIN
@@influxoftux exactly!! 🙄🙄🤣🤣
It's the ones that fear flying and board a plane after being told it's safer than crossing the road.
And then it crashes.
Well, he did say the flight has a 98% success rate, soo.... 😜🤣
I’m very glad this exists. Both my parents are afraid of flying and it was passed on to me. I’ve only overcome my fear of flying by getting myself pretty drunk. I couldn’t imagine flying sober but having something like this to help me I think would do a lot of good.
This is cool AND of service to many passengers. Kudos to BA’s for putting this on.
Imagine the course is more expensive than a flight to a real destination.
Yes about £400 but it’s the whole day not just the flight
they're not losing money over it.... kinda, bc all airlines operate on the red, as you might know already. but it's good marketing (just see the comments), plus all those clients will have a special place for BA, will also probably sign their membership mileage BS and so on. while paying for it. might not profitable and takes a lot of effort in a business you're counting pennies to cut off costs, but might be worth it in the long run. So it needs to be BA to do it, couldn't be a RyanAir.
Well i am very confident in aviation but i absolutely hate the long queues at the airport and the stress at the security check all to then wait at least an hour until you can finally board the plane. So i don’t have any fear of flying but don’t like to do it because of the security checks and stupid waiting at the airport (also environmental concerns)
So you have generalized anxiety over crowds got it.
Imagine how awkward it would be if one of these flights crashed 😅
That would be wild
I'm not sure how fears are unlocked, but it's possible that their fears of height and flying could be replaced with fears of crashing. Either way, the psychologists in the area would see a boost in clients.
They secured future passengers.
I love this. When i was in university, i was scared to fly, but my best friend, who was in flight school at the time, explained a lot of the same things to me, which really helped me beat that fear.
Imagine if one of those flights crash
Let's not talk about that
If it happens, and I survive, I certainly won't care about turbulence any more!
Bro I have been flying since I was 1.5 years old internationally and started flying alone at 6 its not scary
What airline allowed you to fly alone at 6? 🤔🤣🤣 I smell bullshit mate! 🤡
NAH BLUD IS LYING YOU NEED TO BE EITHER 11 OR 13 TO TRAVEL ALONE.
I KNOW MUCH BETTER THAN YOU
As my drummer used to say while touring “Vincent you don’t need to have a fear of flying, it’s a fear of crashing you need son”
I think flights are so fun!!! The rapid acceleration and climbing are both so cool. The view out the window is amazing. I worry more about motion sickness, screaming children, and a neighbor with covid than I do about crashing or something like that. Lol. For me, looking out the window at the passing terrain helps prevent motion sickness because when your eyes see movement, your inner ears suddenly agree with your eyes and proprioceptive input and you don't feel sick. 👍 Benadryl or Dramamine works great too. Dramamine is literally Benadryl with a stimulant mixed with it so it doesn't make you tired.
As a frequent flyer, I love this idea. So many people miss out on life experiences, either because they won’t go at all out of fear, or because they spend the entire time focusing on nothing but their fear. Or worse yet, diminishing the experience of the people around them, because they let an irrational fear become the problem of everyone in earshot. Fear is displaced by knowledge, and the more you learn about how aviation actually works, the more you realize how exceedingly safe it actually is.
I love every part of this. The business end and the social end. Kudos to BA
The flights have a 98% success rate?
😂 98% Passengers success rate. 2 percent not willing to complete the flight.
@@kotor610 aha that checks out
This is a great idea. I too don't really like flying. On my first flight i just cried (when i was younger). I watched dozens of documentaries and just told myself how safe they are and now only properly get nervous when landing. Still get panicky but deal much better overall and have flown long distances.
What a wonderful program for those fearful of flying! I had a friend who had to fly a few times and had to take medication for the anxiety almost to the point of sedation and she still struggled to fight panic. She planned her honeymoon by arriving by train to their destination. I’m sure many are like her and would benefit by this program.
WHAT YOU MEAN 98% success ra- Oh, of people losing their fear, right. Not the first thing I thought. You almost gave me the fear.
I've been on alot of planes. I don't get scared by them as I'm used to them Cuz I've used them since i was a kid. But this is a great idea and i totally support any other airlines that would do the same thing. Good for you, BA!
This is really nice 🥰
So I have to get to the UK to get over my fear of flying? We need this everywhere
This is really nice from BA!
A lot of people hear about past accidents and it causes a phobia or nervousness around flying on planes - but every time i start to get anxious, it helps to remember: every single accident that happened has resulted in more and more safety measures and fixes that make flying safer and safer every time.
Accident --> investigation --> find the cause --> install a solution in the forms of laws, additional training, physical upgrades, etc!
Oh wow! That’s so cool and thoughtful
This is a blessing!
Exposure therapy. I love it
They also released a 'flying with confidence' book which I won't say cured my fear but it made it SO much better. I went from spending 3+ hours terrified to being a bit nervous at take off and then being able to actually relax and enjoy the flight. I would 100% recommend the book to anyone who can't do the course.
Better than therapy! Educational, too! Wonderful! ❤❤❤