BMW G 310 RR / TVS Apache RR 310: Should You Buy One? | Motorinc View
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- The BMW G 310 RR, which is the same bike as the TVS Apache RR 310 is extremely hard to recommend. It's very sweet in the corners, quite comfortable and welcoming for a sportsbike, and it is good looking with so much presence. But it's price is just nuts. The TVS makes a lot more sense, except that the market's moving on and leaving the 310s behind.
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CHAPTERS
00:00 So German!
01:25 Design
02:30 Performance
03:25 Handling
04:27 Tyres
05:02 Comfort
05:48 Instruments
06:38 Service
07:24 BMW's Challenge
08:07 Verdict
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Sir please give in-depth view in Triumph scramb x 400 as I want to buy or should I go for upcoming RE 450 scrambler
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That was not a compliment
"Cut we are done" is the best part of this video.❤
Shumi is angy 😾
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Not sure that's a conclusion Shumi's reached though, @iamnipuhasan
"You could argue that, we will move on" 😅
I don't even own a motorbike or car, I'm not planning to buy one soon, nor I have a lot of interest in motor vehicles but the videos presented by these two gentlemen makes me come back for more again and again.
Thanks a ton! We'll pass your compliments on to the team!
Buy the TVS version as TVS will have spare parts even after 30 or 40 years.
They are extremely consistent in their quality control.
Not to mention they will sell you the hardware with no markup when you buy it separately so that you can fix it yourself.
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And to be honest 6 years with the RTR200, the service has been on point for me, there are a few niggles and misses, but overall I'm far better served at TVS than I was at Honda or Hero Honda previously
@@DemomanChaos0508 We went to the showroom to fix my dad's old tvs 45. Never even thought they will have anything for that bike considering that it's older than me. But they had each and every part and it wasn't even old. All made just 4 months prior.
I just love how humble they are.
@@onepunchman6165 Glad to know mate! BTW, I tried a quick google search for TVS 45, I couldn't find which two wheeler your dad owns. Mind sharing a link to the machine? It's fascinating that TVS still stocks all parts for a bike that old.
Parts availability with Hero,Bajaj and TVS is always good. Honda sucks in higher segment bikes.
a few months ago i was dying to know your opinions on this bike
but as time passed and i gained more knowledge I think that my understanding of motorcycles have changed drastically
thank you for this video but i will chose rc 390 over this anytime anyday anywhere
Thanks for letting us know! Glad you enjoyed the watch!
These Motorinc videos are the ones I wait for the most.
As these tell you what the vehicle is actually. I love it.
These videos show the heart poured into them.
Waiting for more on the existing products like cb300r, duke 250, rtr 310, Yamaha r15 and what not.
now that's something I pay my internet bills for
the Audio is one of the best, detailing like the addition of exhaust notes, RR310 overlays
and my Fav quoting Chandler Bing "could BMW India be more serious" . Wholesome guys 💌
Thanks Sradhasuman! Glad you enjoyed the watch!
Brilliant one, Shumi....
Engine: Vibey: ouch!
Performance: Adequate: Ouchhh!
Market positioning:Trishanku! Ouchhhhh!
Done...Cut...Fade out!
Perfect! 😅
Trishanku. What a great reference Ajay!
This guy is becoming my favvy fav just in few months! He's too witty and makes sense with his words. Also, kudos for the content you guys are creating, no nonsense all info! ❤
Thank you so much Rahul! Happy you're enjoying the MotorInc experience!
loved the background scores on this one...
Thanks Kshitij!
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Nailed it, New Motorinc team at work I believe, can see it clearly
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Missed Petal disk brake difference too. BMW one - doesn't have that too😅
I don't know why they still charge more without Bluetooth connectivity, Petal Disk brake and Michelin Road 5 tires 😮
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Hey guys. Second 310 fanboy here in the comments. I own the TVS BTO of this motorcycle. Love it as my first 300CC segment but I couldn't agree more on everything but I'm still able to live with this motorcycle even if its not as exciting because, well, my first sports bike, it's got adjustable suspension, front and back and I could argue that this BTO set of KYB suspensions are almost as good as some other 600CC class supersports I have tried. The tyres are brilliant, so brilliant that it almost gives the rider overconfidence and same can be said about the chasis. It inspires more and asks for more. The comfortable, almost sports-touring type seating position, the cockpit experience, getting that feeling of being able to manually adjust something on your bike (suspensions or basic maintenance) is something very close to me as I've worked on my father's old motorcycles with him. This bike is an emotion to me.
Notice how I didn't say anything about the engine? 😐 Yeah. The power delivery is confusing, there's buzz from 1000rpm all the way to redline. It's bit boring compared to current 250s and 400s. I agree that the bike feels more old and dated in power figures compared to its other rivals.
But above 6000rpm, I am always smiling and giggling. It may not blow your socks off but it's almost enough engaging that it's always fun. Hope TVS makes some 400CC updates to this platform. Can't expect anything from BMW on that front.
Thank you so much for this long awaited video. You guys are awesome and Shumi's mildly angry jokes gives me life 😄❤️.
Thanks Shrey! We're always thrilled to see riders who are excited about their machines and we're very happy for you!
Great review. BMW is looking old because TVS has not updated the RR 😅
Bro we have got the same name and the same bike 😂
Bhai I am a owner of tvs rr310 too. And my experience is exactly the same. I drive it every single day and enjoy it. My experience with this machine is the best I ever had in this lifetime. ❤❤❤❤❤
@@motorinc thank you ❤️
Hey Kartikeya, it was an amazing feeling meeting you in between the movie Dune. I thoroughly enjoyed getting to exchange those few words with you and felt just over the top when I reached out after hesitating. I truly wish to see a season 2 of Disconnect soon. I was left with a bit of regret having not asked for a selfie out of hesitation and feeling like an intruder though. I still want to say though that you guys have become like ideals for not just moto journalism but even from the side of a personal mentor for the audience as you guys are hugely inspirational to all watching you. Thanks for the amazing content you guys put up and being
real and yourself in sharing all your thoughts without shouting with fake excitement.
This is the comment I was waiting a reply on most eagerly, and the only one on this channel I haven't received a reply on. Nonetheless, love you and your content guys!
The production quality and the work put into these videos are still unmatched 💙
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Thanks BigFatBub!
What do you mean @hemanathanelumalai5078?
Never miss content from here. Really honest opinions.
Request your honest feedback on the honda cb300f. Kindly do a short video.
Thank you.
Thanks Arvind! Waiting for F & R test bikes!
@motorinc OMG. Honda is uncooperative with journos and reviewers. Your esteemed team not getting the bikes are shocking. Arrogant of Honda motorcycle india. Anyway continue with your honest and Blunt reviews. Take care.
So far the only channel i found that gives honest opinions to the customers . Ur harsh sometimes to many but that what we need to be frank 😄 to knkw the truth .. not the paid promotion
*"If the Pilot street is the Kardashian you can vaguely recognize but can never name, the Road 5 is Kim!"* Wow Shumi sir! You summarized the entire video in that one line.
I have one suggestion for the production team! I'd love to see review videos to be presented like stories with the content shot completely outdoors, that would be great! This is just a suggestion that you may consider trying once!😉
No plan to make outdoors content until the quality level is where we are at, or higher, Arun.
Another awesome review MotorInc 👌🏻
Hey @motorinc!
It's me, your 310 fanboy!😂
The video I was waiting for!
The RR310 platform is such a versatile line if they play their cards right... The lack of updates has left this motorcycle less than desirable in terms of performance. The sole reason someone would go for this today as it is, would be that either they're a massive fan of the brand, or want a sports bike that doesn't challenge you very much despite the 300cc figure that the engine boasts.
They nailed everything in this other than the heart of the machine and it's sad to see...
My view is that even if TVS adds the RTR engine to the RR, it won't make as big of a difference as it needs to convince a buyer to get one, but I'm hoping that I get proven wrong!
Would you guys recommend this machine once the new engine comes on-board? I'd like to know what's your view on this!
Also I love the fact that you guys at MotorInc try to respond to each comment, and as a new member of the community, it feels so welcoming!
Hoping to be recognised as a regular commenter in one of your upcoming MotorInc First episodes!❤
That's a great viewpoint Chaitanya! Thank you! We're thinking making a 3XXcc engine today seems odd because we're clearly going for 250s as one class and 400s as another and nothing in the middle apart from retro/REs seem to work.
Was waiting for this! Thank you motorinc ❤❤❤
Hope you enjoyed it Daksh!
I really did. It makes sense that the bike itself is NOT a good value for money proposition, but it looks just so darn good. Against better judgement, I am actually thinking of purchasing one second hand. A test ride along with a compare with RC390 would be in order. @motorinc your thoughts?
Always a test ride before you have intrusive thoughts for sure!
You know how you read a book you've already read and enjoyed before? You know almost exactly what's coming next but that only ups the excitement. All your videos are like that. This one is just awesome! Gonna come back and watch this 25 times with no intention to ever buy the 310.
Thanks Sudhi! Glad you enjoyed the watch and love that you're thrilled with the MotorInc experience!
crips n sharp presentation. looking fwd for more such videos.
More to come! Thanks Santhosh!
Guys if you made short videos series on bike maintenance, wheel alignment, suspension adjustment, lever adjustment, cause and effect ( ex low tire pressure what u feel? Bike pulls to right a bit what's the cause etc) would be awesome.
I have been living with a 2018 BS4 RR 310 for almost 5 years now.
It was the perfect choice for me, coming from an R15 v1, especially considering the R3 was discontinued at the time and the RC was too agressive.
I use it for commute to work and loooong tours.
The fact that TVS has not changed the bike much has worked out quite well for me. It allowed me to get a fuel X Pro, which took the sting out of the vibes and later added the adjustable suspensions from the BTO model which completly transformed the package. Not to mention it looks menacing, reasonably comfortable, carries good amount of luggage, fast enough, built well and still relevant.
Nice upgrades Prayag! Glad you're enjoying your riding!
I am thinking to get this bike how would fuel x work for me and get me better engine power?
Superb production quality
I think that shumi sir is one of the most learned and skilled rider !wish to have knowledge like you one day sir !
Thank you 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🖖🏽
As Usual Great Video and nicely presented by Shumi Sir. Small feedback I felt that the audio had a weird reverb to it which made it sound little odd. Otherwise great production as always 🙂
Thanks for the feedback, thepirofreak! We'll pass it on to the team
Hai, couple of videos ago I had asked you guys to review the RR. Thankyou so much, I own the first gen, it's still an emotional attachment than a practical choice and in someways it feels good to see your review on the bike. Thankyou so much again. Might I add TVS is actually selling fewer of RR than BMW because of the brand value. I would love to see the new aluminium sub frame on the RR, which given the time and money I'm considering myself (for the looks). The vibrations are all there is, but I forget them as soon as I'm in the traffic and people look at it like a superbike. Much love to you guys, I sure appreciate your honesty and you've made a point that bike reviews don't generally need gopros and wind noise.
Hey Sreehari! Do you have a source for the sales data? Glad you're enjoying your ride and that you love MotorInc!
@@motorinc the showroom itself said so, and the trend with this bike was such, everyone was so set on changing logos, slapping on stickers and convert it into a "bmw bike" way before bmw even launched it. Then there were people within the community itself who sold their RR to buy 310RR. My question is was it an upgrade or a downgrade?🤣 There were cases of BMW charging their customers a premium service cost of about 10k which then later cleared out as some extra thing customer opted for like coating polishing or something. Atleast that's what they claim.🤭
310 Fan boy here, @MotorInc !! finally, the review i was dying to watch since a year or so. I settled up buying the apache rr310 6 months ago but i made my mind back in 2018 when i first had the glimpses of this machine when powerdrift dropped the video, it was love at first site tbh and accepted the motorcycle with whatever cons it comes with. I agree on everything u guys said about this machine, it is due for a massive update and TVS aint doing sh*t, the buzz is there, the hard and rough gear shifting is there, parts availability is questionable rather the parts are always unavailable and the biggest disappointment, the after sale service! lack of skilled mechanics. This could have been a gem of a motorcycle if TVS had given it the care it deserved. I hope the TVS execs see this video and do their homework right or atleast blow the dust away on the RR's chapter
Glad you got the bike you dreamt of HughJackman8347! Congratulations and safe rides!
sometimes I watch motorinc just for the thrill of learning new english jargons and isioms only..
never disappointed 😂
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I guess your Video was also like the BMW s work The Voice was A bit Eco ing in the background but ya it was nice seeing some experiments with the background and a new room I guess
Video was great & Informative Thanks
Thanks for your feedback.
Thank u very much
But I don't know I now have a more inclination towards rs457
Can you suggest me something about this should I go for rs457 or not
The Friends refrence made me chuckle with joy! 😄 RIP Miss Chanandler Bong...
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Love your video guys, 👍 👍. R u planning to review the new ns series from bajaj? Just eager to hear your take on those bikes.
Yes, soon!
After pondering for 1 year... testing 390 duke, new himalayan, interceptor, conti gt.... and after lot of questions to Motorinc (a few of which you answered patiently and ignoring many nagging questions)... i finally ordered Conti GT last week. Motorinc videos helped in taking the decision in a chill manner... that one video where Shumi and Karthik say its okay to make mistake and get riding experience rather than being in decision paralysis was the turning point.... Thanks Shumi and Karthik :) :)
Awesome! We hope you get your delivery soon!
Thanks!@@motorinc
I’m looking to buy the 310RR, 2022-2023, second hand. My only concern is adding the BTO kits after. Outside of mentions in UA-cam videos, I haven’t found any information about. Can anyone help me out?
Many months i requested this video and you guys finally made it thanks for that …..The thing is i have booked the G310RR in January and i have the delivery scheduled in march so what should i do now ..i am totally in love with this bike and the thing i can only buy white colour due to some family reasons and another advantage is i live near the BMW showroom so i guess I won’t have any service issues in future so what is your opinion about this should i go for it or not ?
Thanks for covering these motorcycles, Motorinc. The G 310 RR is quite desirable due to its badge and the price. But its TVS counterpart decimates that feeling of exclusivity, for me at least.
Thanks for sharing your perspective Ishaan!
Really waiting for the CB300R review now. I'm having trouble deciding between the new Duke 250 and the CB 300R.
Thank You :)
Explain octane rated fuels and their vary requirements on types of vehicle and also please straight away answer does ntorq 125 works finer with 91+ rated fuels or any regular fuel is okay and it doesn't make a difference?
Hi motorinc,
Thank you for this wonderful video. I want to upgrade from my 2014 re classic 350 to something lighter with more power, performance and comfort.. could you suggest a few options available in the market or soon will be available in India that can be a good commuter asa well as can take on some decent highway miles for my semi annual long distance rides.
Love your work,
Keep up the good work.
Love,
Rajat
I literally get excited when you guys upload a new motorcycle video. Love your style! Love from Bangladesh ❤️
Glad you like them! Thanks Iram!
You replied! Yay! I didn't check the youtube notifications. Yay!
Shumi, I watch your videos before going to give a presentation. You have the best presentation skill I have ever seen! ❤️
Thank you very much Iram!
ek 'cutting' alag si.
New sound in the background is refreshing.
🤜🏽🤛🏽 Thanks Uday!
Admin! I have a doubt , I really wish you and Kartik explain us in next video just briefly. “ When we use a quick shifter, the clutch isn’t involved, though the engine gets cut off while the gear changes.” So my question is does that mean the quick shifter will result in better lifespan of the clutch plate. In other terms will using quick shifter result in less wear and tear of the clutch plates. This stuff is roaming around my mind, help me🥴.
Why does that need a video? A quickshifter reduces the time the system is unloaded so that shifts happen faster. You'd do the exact same thing when you make a clutches upshift (safe on sequential transmissions) but you would take longer. A quickshifter should not wear your clutch out faster, it might even lengthen their life
@@motorinc thanks now I can sleep peacefully. Actually I want to cover it as a question in some qna maybe in near future. But thanks 🤩
@@motorinc just out of curiosity how much static and rider sag would you recommend for indian road conditions? Also is it worth setting sag for road use only?
Oooo yes yes yes , I was waiting for this for so long
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Gracefully explained. BTW scrolling through some old reddit threads I found out that Motorinc gets a lot of hate from Dominar and CB350 owners saying that Shumi doesn't realise the potential these bikes have, so I would really appreciate if the admin let us know what opinion the team has on those bikes (or through a video maybe?).
D400 and HCB350s are two bikes that we just cannot recommend. They're not good enough. Videos when we can get to it, leywin.
@@motorinc Thank you for getting back to me! Waiting for the in-depth explanation VERY patiently!
Dear @motorinc team when you guys are uploading the road ride review of Aprilia RS 457, and what's your thoughts on CF Moto SR/SS 450 ? Love yours content too, the only channel I can listen for an hour 👍
Hey Mitonbike! No test bikes yet so no timelines yet either. No opinion on CF 450s. They don't sell them in here ergo they're irrelevant.
Really waiting for your reviews on RTR 310
7:04 "TVs service has a reputation of being slightly difficult"
That's a big understatement. They are HORRIBLE when it comes to service.
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I have already booked the G310RR and this month i have the delivery so what should i do ?
I thought the screen on my phone has turned yellow but it was just the video 😅 Usually it's pure white background I think it could be some editing issue but nice video regardless! ❤
The colour is very much intentional, Ashish
its the same Stickering approach that RTR 310 sepang blue model gets on its top of the tank. white background with red accent and blue stripes running in the middle. i like that color scheme more than normal grey panels.
Thanks for the info Deepak!
Please make a video on ktm rc 390 fir i have been waiting for it from a very long time cause i very trust you reviews
your editing guy kills it
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Great review as always. The audio however has hissing sound tone. So it’s harsh sometimes. Please take a look!
We will check it out! Thank you!
What is your opinion on the last gen husqvarna 250s?Given their low prices in the used market,Do you think they're good options to consider buying in 2024 keeping in mind the newer bikes in the segment?
Nope... Get the newer 250 Duke then...
What about the g310 gs, do we have a substitute?
Well i own an TVS Apache 310 RR and all the points mentioned are true ...more than features ..this bike needs a smoother and refined engine ...my friend owns a R15 and my ohh my is its engine smooth AF...lets hope they update the engine's bike
I own an Apache RR310 and definitely points mentioned here are accurate .. the engine is vibey but i got used to it and man i love this machine 😍
Also, i am very lucky to have got a good TVS dealership and the servicr guy has also become my friends so gives proper advices and knows really well on how this machine behaves!
I have toured a lot on this bike .. and clocked around 20k in 1 year.. solo rides are absolutely fun with little luggage .. pillion rides are tiring but proper stops makes it comfortable and easy.
Average service costs around 2-2.5k . I love this bike since this has been my dream bike and because of shumi i have learned many new things ❤
Awesome! Please do name and credit the dealer here if you can Ankur! There's too many complaints with TVS Service and that means every dealer who's doing a good job needs their name to be more public!
@@motorinc yes ofcourse!
Dealer: Isofine TVS, Ambala.
i own a 310 GS, Its been 5 years now and 40k kms and i love it in traffic and i love it on the highway. Its a sweet bike. Though i cannot say the same for the price and official service cost (actually its diametrically opposite and horrendous).
Same here dude, riding on Indian roads is like off road lol, I enjoy the bike in city highways everywhere, considering service is at 10k kms I think it's fine, but the 3rd service is going to be a bomb
Glad you are enjoying your GS' Lokesh and Syed!
HI MOTORINC great video as always cant go wrong with you guys lol XD but i feel a pulsar fared 400 is all we need for this segment any idea when they will be around ??
No word yet phdtalks. But it should be in the April-June window we believe.
The soundtrack ❤🔥
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Btw, just fyi, it ain't a "propeller". Love your videos and the way you guys make it 🙏🙌
True! But BMW's great ad campaign created that enduring association ~90 years ago!
Just love everything about this video 🤌✨props to the whole team 🎉
Thanks a ton! We'll pass your compliments on to the team!
Hi motorinc folks. I have been planning on buying a 125 cc bike. My options are raider, sp 125, ns 125 and pulsar 125. Plz make a video on that.I reckon people are gonna watch it.😲
I was considering G310gs but thank god i got the Vstrom sx and right now just came back from a 200km ride to the beach. So freakin amazing bike and returned me a FE of 40km/L. Can’t thank Shumi enough for introducing me to the Vstrom sx ❤
Long live Motorinc !
Ashes! Good to hear you went for a ride and loved your day out! Glad we could help you in this too!
Love the bgm and eeit
Thanks a ton! We'll pass your compliments on to the team!
Waiting for your video on RTR 310 since very long, please make one🙏🥺
It's on my top list to buy, and it will be my first bike purchase and I want to do it after your video
As soon as possible - no word from TVS on test bikes yet
I came to know that KTM RC 200 has come with new color options in their 2024 varient. Is there any other significant difference apart from the color scheme in the machine?
No there isn't Shailendra. The next big update will be when you hear that the 2024 Duke chassis has become the base for the updated RC.
I still can't decide if I should get this or the Apache at a time like today and when there may be updates soon😢
Thanks for the very well targeted video, I respect it when u2b'ers discuss the problems in this much honesty.
Just aside, I wished in the video you call the models as BMW or TVS all the time instead of "310" and "RR" badges... that's freaking confusing to follow )))) luckily they have most of the time similar features )))
Don't get confused at all! They are exactly the same bike!
Audio engineering was insanely good in the first minute and a half but I heard some echos over voiceover later, idk if they were sound effects or bad sound proofing of room, but they didn't sound nice either way.
Thanks for the feedback - let us recheck this, Shaurya
So as me being the first time owning a motorcycle do you think I should go for the TVS version (I am in love with that bike) as I like the kind of bulky aggressivness it has and kind of sits perfectly in my budget here or would you suggest any different bike to go for as a first time owner?
You could, Cyberking. Just remember that the RTR310 means the RR310 will get an update soon so maybe now isn't a great time to buy - you'll end up with the _old model_ in the process. There are tons of good options out there too - do look around. If you make a list, we can help you sort through your list if you like.
@@motorinc thanks for the reply. When can I expect to roll out the update on RR? I mean I was planning to buy it in April. I looked out for the rtr 310 as well as ktm but none of them took my heart like the RR did. Apart from sports section, I was also kind of thinking of RE classic 350🙃
I'm a 23 yo guy btw and have had ridden pulsars NS200, RS200, hornet and such kind of bikes but never had one of my own
Get test rides, cyberking. It'll clear up lots of things about what kind of bikes speak to you. As to the RR update, there's no official word but we think a few months from now
Its great mentioning him like that❤......Chandler😊 🙏 Rip
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No updates from long ago
Why sir
Any updates in 2024 or 2024 rr310 again launch new model
Quality content ✅
Thank you very much!
Do a similar 'Should you buy one' about Himalayan 450
Finally someone addressed major issues on this bike while others are still talking about how the way its exhaust looks.
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Please make a video on honda cb300r. I am considering it as a tourer bike
Excellent review, could you review G310 GS as well?
Once we get a test bike, for sure. The last time we asked, BMW didn't have a bike we could test
Just needed an opinion... planning to buy a new bike under limited budget mt-15, karizma xmr are under the budget daily city ride office to house and weekdays probably a long tour not much...just need some good power want to shift to a good looking good mid range performance and somewhat responsive in the higher rev range.... Back of the mind also thought Pulsar 220f...so easy to ride motorcycle but does it makes sense in 2024 needed your opinion....
As i grow in my career, i wish to adopt shumi's clarity and confidence in speaking. If this man says the earth spins around the moon, id believe him.
🤜🏽🤛🏽 Best of luck!
Please make a video on Xpulse/Xpulse Pro. I believe the bike really has significance on automotive world.
Suggested noted! Thanks SHIBA!
Left everything and came back ❤
Welcome back once again!
@@motorinc hehee😄❣️✨🫂
Keyway seems the next big thing in indian market right cuz i see some promising bikes like lfc 700 for a inline 4 its seems kinda cheap. what is your thougs it wil be nice if guys do a vedios on that ..
Shumi make a video on Himalayan 450 again ❤with all clear info and riding performance in all terrain, city, highways and offroad too.
Coming soon!
Dear Shumi and Kartik … I have been following you for some years … your reviews and your clarifications are simply awesome ❤. One request … can you review Honda CB350 ? Or have a comparison with any 400cc bikes ? So anyone who is looking to buy a vehicle in sub 500 cc bike will have a great reference from you guys being the subject matter experts. (Perspective of buying is most as a commuter but touring maybe 3-4 times of year and short weekends rides 100-200 km and back; not a hardcore off road biker)
Hey Rahul! Been chasing Honda for ~8 months now... no test bikes.
400c comparison coming soon. But what we'd suggest is that instead of waiting for us, make a list of bikes you're considering and go get test rides... we can discuss what you like/didn't here!
Perfect timing
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Why there is no review of Honda CB 350. Can we have one
Can you do a video on safety gear?
Is it better than the rc390 for the track , as the quickshifter is smoother + other features like cruise control for well cruising .
To learn? Yes. To go faster? The RC390's _much_ faster
@@motorinc 😅 just saw some youtuber downgrade his track machine from rc390 to rtr310 then lol
Hey Shumi, whats your recommendation on 310 GS. Is it a good buy or we wait for any new upgrades.
It's a very comfortable bike, it looks good and gleams with quality. But the price is high, the engine's slow and the service is wildly expensive, Harish. The RTR310 has an updated engine tune and we expect that it implies updates to all of the other 310s - but there is no official word from BMW or TVS on this at the moment.
they have a perfect chassis, awesome design , great proportions too!! lacks the aggressiveness of bigger sibling and is pricey too.😊😊
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@@motorinc and yes a 450cc parallel twin would have been phenomenal😎
Great vid as always Shumi. Was curious about something. I own an RC390 2015, its about 9 years old now and I am thinking of an upgrade. I had been thinking of the G310 or the RS457, but I remember you once said, once thinking of an upgrade try and go for doubling the BHPs. That puts me in the 600 cc range. Do you think 600cc bikes are viable and sensible in India for someone who likes to ride but also doesn't have the time to go to tracks very often and the bike ends up being a commuter and late night city/highway rider more often than not? Should I just stick to the Aprillia or the 310 (and the anticipated new RC) as front runners or seriously explore the 600s?
TIA.
Hey Prakhar! Absolutely! Shumi's been commuting on his Multistrada (1200 and now V4) regularly since 2016, more or less. So you should seriously explore the 600s. The Ninja 650 or CBR650 style faired bikes are the same kind of comfortable sportsbikes that the G 310 RR is in format - as opposed to the ZX-6R which is a more committed sportsbike. Definitely worth exploring.
Ninja 650 vs Versys 650 which one should I go with. main use commute and weekend rides and 2-3 long trips a year ? I’m sceptical with inferior handling of versys vs Ninja’s low Ground clearance 😅
So just yesterday i had been for this bike's test ride. Pretty much in love with what it looks & feels, although i know that they are at their end of life cycles (much awaitwd to be updated)...i am running out of time, as my current bike is on the verge of incurring me huge maintenance while this ones which i like are now at this stage. Pretty hard to wait. Can you suggest other options as KTM is complete no no for me.
What other bikes are you considering Mihir?
Do you know when they will be updated, I can wait a few years
No official word, but since the RTR310 is already wearing a new engine, it should come to the RR310 soon too
Good for 5'6 ?
U ought to make a RTR 310 vs G310R, in this round the top spec rtr is the same price as the bmw but with a lotmore equipment and a design difference of night and day. Would be interesting to see your take on these non identical twins
Suggestion noted! Thanks Skarrin!
Great analysis sir! Can you please shower some knowledge on new TVS APACHE RTR 310?
No word on test bike dates yet, Tejus!
@@motorinc I’m planning to book the BTO what do you suggest me
Or should I need to wait
Or can you tell me the tentative waiting time please
When can we expect the RR310 Update?