Should You Leave Your Jiu-Jitsu/BJJ Gym? | Black Belt Advice
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Leaving your BJJ/Jiu Jitsu academy can be a difficult decision. Here is some advice that might help you when considering what to do.
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I like my local gym, but there’s a few bullies who can’t seem to fun roll or flow roll so we can work technique, they go for the kill and I get injured from them. The other issue is there isn’t enough white belts at my level, and I can’t get ahead but the higher ranks want to kill me. Not sure what I need to do? Should I leave, quit, or stay?
I feel like my gym definitely values students who constantly go compete. The social vibe felt different.
of course, they do not want them to get injured
This video completely nailed it. Leaving a gym now because we did zero technique for an entire year at my gym. I found a far more technical school 20mins away and its so much better!!
loved the inside, definitely a guy that values technique.
Chasen,
I have experienced bias against wrestlers at two jujitsu schools.
I first trained in 1993 at age 26. This was back when the art was relatively new in California. I was not a great wrestler by any means. However, I found the instructor reluctant to show me anything and I found out later he would coach the other students on how to beat me. At the time I was the only wrestler in the room of about 15 students. It was a new school. I only found out through a guy in class who would later become a life long friend. I ended up training there for about a year. I left and started training in my friends garage who told me about the instructor coaching against me. I still train the basics off an on for about 30 years with him. We have a group of 5 guys who roll regular.
I have a bucket list to get a blue belt. I joined a gi-less school at age 55 and was honest with the instructor about my experience. I was having a lot of success against guys 25-30 years younger who have all trained consistently for 2+ years and are winning tournaments. They all wanted to start standing to work on take downs. Anyways, I trained there for 13 months and the instructor would always down play my success by saying he’s trained before. I did, but I was giving up decades. We had a belt promotion and a few guys got a blue belt over me. Great guys, but I regularly better them with basics. I still kept going to class and smiled.
Long story short. I jammed my neck a month later. Just dissolution with the bias against wrestlers. And for the record, I rolled at a jujitsu pace and not a wrestling pace. I know how to be a good training partner. The younger guys would actually seek me out especially for takedowns.
I’m about ready to return to training at the school. Any advice?
Work on neck strengthening exercises including bridges. I always found my injuries came when I was inpatient and didn’t rehab enough before returning to training. Good luck!
About the first 2 minutes of this video. This was exactly my first gym, little focus on technique and sparring every time I’m there (this was Muay Thai). And I wish I left it sooner but I was a beginner and thought it was the regular process and sparring all the time I got injured and had to leave. A year later I found another gym and their way of teaching is 50/50 focus of technique and sparring. Overall second gym is much better and I actually felt like I was learning something rather than feeling like I’m in a gym fighter type of gym (gym had low level fighters as well). And my new more technique focused gym had way more credible and better fighters / instructors
Thank you for this. I am struggling with the same thing as “Adam.” This helped me a lot.
Awesome! Glad you found the video helpful!
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have you heard of priit mihkelson? he has very deep and interesting philosophy and scientific approach to teaching and learning- he also has like basic/fundamentals approach for beginners and doesn't let noobs roll on first day. and he emphasize strongly teaching with progressive resistance instead of murdering noobs and injuring everyone
also he strongly favor(and so do i) training ACTIVE resistance that make sense and developing super good defense especially for beginners
I have not, but I 100% follow the same mindset!
Hey, there! I'm working on a project to better help students like yourself. I'm currently collecting helpful information by speaking with students. Would you be open to speaking with me? If so, please shoot me an email at chasenhill@gmail.com. I hope we can speak soon!
Preach!
Chasen, question on this topic.
I am like Adam. I signed up for a gym close to my house 7 months ago. Was going through foundations and got moved up to the advanced program which required a 2 year commitment.
Well, everything was going good. I feel I've come a long way. Assistant coaches come around and say "good job on that technique" etc. A lot. Well, I started to notice that people who signed up around same time or, signed up a couple months after me, are now 1-2 stripes and I have nothing. I attend more than them.
Am I in the wrong school? Why am I being told I'm doing well but not advancing like the others? Especially when I attend more and can either hold them off or submit them in open mat.
Sorry for the delayed response! You may not be at the wrong "school". Your school just may not have very clear guidelines on what is needed to be promoted. I personally feel this is lacking in most academies across the country. I would recommend speaking with your instructor directly on the expectations and what is needed. If they can't give you a clear answer, then you might visit other gyms and see how they do things. I hope this helps. If you are open to it, I'm working on a project to better help students like yourself. I'm currently collecting helpful information by speaking with students. Would you be open to speaking with me? If so, please shoot me an email at chasenhill@gmail.com. I hope we can speak soon!
If a gym don't have anyone with the same skill level as you or help you with your technique then find other
Come from a judo background. Since I can't attend judo, I chose to attend jiu jitsu since any kind of mat time is good. However, I'm currently in a situation where all belts are lumped together, coach hardly shows up, blue belts are the only next belt besides white that go, there's no direction, no drilling, no skill practice when the coach isn't there(which is almost all the time) and to add to that, it's all no gi so I'm also out of my element. Training always ends up being blue belts trying new techniques on me, the white belt. I have improved a ton in the 2 months I've gone in regards to my ground game but now I'm concerned since there's no criteria set in place. I'm extremely consistent and never miss a training session. However, It's my time and money I'm wasting. No shade to the guys at the gym, they're a great group of guys but there's no clear tutelage. Also, not ok with being their live training dummy since they all out weigh me by 40-60lbs. Makes me really miss judo.
Everything you talked about is what I'd like to be told, shown, and taught. I definitely should have researched more but I went with the first gym I could find and since it was cheap, I dedicated myself to it.
Gonna go research and hopefully find a gym that's right for me! 👍🏽
My gyms strict about our gi and no gi, we can only have a white gi and only wear a black no gi. Also classes are only 1 hour long and we never have free rolling days
Thanks for sharing! Do you enjoy how strict it is?
Fuck that
Do used to be a guerrilla Jiu jitsu student?
No! I would love to train with them one day. My student got it for me as a gift.
8 years as a black belt or 8 years as training bjj