Very helpful. Thank you for posting. Please tell us more tips and tricks about Mainstage for Live Performance. More people are shifting towards a MIDI because of the plethora of sounds and flexibility of sounds. I would personally like to know more about connecting multiple MIDIs, Layouts in Mainstage for Live, Patch switching (non linear), etc.
Great video! Thanks! Just as I was starting to ask my self about Midi, you jumped to it! :) Does tuning of a scale in aliased patch affects source patch?
If you are doing it thru a midi fx plugin and you haven't done the midi routing as I've shown, then yes. If you do it in the actual instrument editor, then of course it will be replicated no matter what.
I have MS 3.6.1 and this doesnt seem to work at all the same way. When I paste as an Alias, I do not get an icon on either track indicating it's an alias. There is no reduction in memory on the copied track, they are identical. However if I add an effect on the master track, it will appear on the alias/copied track so I can confirm that it IS an alias and I have copied it correctly. There seems to be no benefit to doing this anymore.
@@glennygtube I see what I was doing wrong. I just created a template, and I can confirm this in fact works on 3.6.4. @ChrisJohnsonMusic I figured it out man. I have an extensive Vocal, Guitar, Playback chain. With the added Effects on the Bus Channel, it doesn't completely negate CPU usage as a normal Alias channel, but it saves at least 40mb. Currently I'm running 5 Channels, with 15 Plugins total. This patch is 65.5 MB. With the alias method and added flexibility, I change the Effects on the Bus Channel, and it takes the MB usage to 23MB. Not bad at all.
I use a different one, just to make it easier to follow. But they COULD be the same IAC but use different channels. This tweak of aliases is particularly useful for large sample libraries, like piano, brass, strings...stuff that you would commonly use the same instrument for but might want more flexibility in audio and midi per song. I can't imagine needing more than 8 of those kind of instruments in a set, so I just use a different IAC for each one.
I can't seem to get this to work. In the main patch, I created an audio channel, In: Bus1, Out: Output 1-2. It asks for feedback protection. I just select feedback protection. It creates a strip with the tuner icon. I then set Output to Bus 1 (on the main sound strip) . The tuner input is Bus 1, output is Output 1-2. I then create an alias. The tuner is alias, so I remove it and create a new audio, in this alias. I then add an EQ into the tuner of the alias. The sound is not automatically reflective and I have to click around just to get it to work. Certainly not in performance mode.
Sorry, Paul but you seem confused about the process and what it is used for. I suggest going back and watching the video again. At no point does it suggest making an alias of an audio channel. This method is for bringing more flexibility to aliases of INSTRUMENT channels, both in the application of different audio effects on the output of the Instrument channel and in the use of the midi input to that Instrument channel. Have another look and you will see that. I can't imagine a situation where you would want to alias an Audio channel, since that channel is not loaded with memory-intensive plugins like large sample libraries.
Very helpful. Thank you for posting. Please tell us more tips and tricks about Mainstage for Live Performance. More people are shifting towards a MIDI because of the plethora of sounds and flexibility of sounds. I would personally like to know more about connecting multiple MIDIs, Layouts in Mainstage for Live, Patch switching (non linear), etc.
Great video! Thanks! Just as I was starting to ask my self about Midi, you jumped to it! :) Does tuning of a scale in aliased patch affects source patch?
If you are doing it thru a midi fx plugin and you haven't done the midi routing as I've shown, then yes. If you do it in the actual instrument editor, then of course it will be replicated no matter what.
Nice cheers bro
I have MS 3.6.1 and this doesnt seem to work at all the same way. When I paste as an Alias, I do not get an icon on either track indicating it's an alias. There is no reduction in memory on the copied track, they are identical. However if I add an effect on the master track, it will appear on the alias/copied track so I can confirm that it IS an alias and I have copied it correctly. There seems to be no benefit to doing this anymore.
You need Badges ticked in the channel strip components to see your aliases indicated.
Same for me. No benefit - any ideas @glennygtube?
I opened Window>Memory Usage History and pasted 10 alias of Logic's Steinway Grand and the memory didn't change at all.
@@FromAtoZmusic I opened Window>Memory Usage History and pasted 10 alias of Logic's Steinway Grand and the memory didn't change at all.
@@glennygtube I see what I was doing wrong. I just created a template, and I can confirm this in fact works on 3.6.4.
@ChrisJohnsonMusic I figured it out man. I have an extensive Vocal, Guitar, Playback chain. With the added Effects on the Bus Channel, it doesn't completely negate CPU usage as a normal Alias channel, but it saves at least 40mb. Currently I'm running 5 Channels, with 15 Plugins total. This patch is 65.5 MB. With the alias method and added flexibility, I change the Effects on the Bus Channel, and it takes the MB usage to 23MB. Not bad at all.
Do you have to have a new IAC bus for each ALIAS patch, or just continue to use the same IAC bus...?
I use a different one, just to make it easier to follow. But they COULD be the same IAC but use different channels. This tweak of aliases is particularly useful for large sample libraries, like piano, brass, strings...stuff that you would commonly use the same instrument for but might want more flexibility in audio and midi per song. I can't imagine needing more than 8 of those kind of instruments in a set, so I just use a different IAC for each one.
I can't seem to get this to work. In the main patch, I created an audio channel, In: Bus1, Out: Output 1-2. It asks for feedback protection. I just select feedback protection. It creates a strip with the tuner icon. I then set Output to Bus 1 (on the main sound strip) . The tuner input is Bus 1, output is Output 1-2. I then create an alias. The tuner is alias, so I remove it and create a new audio, in this alias. I then add an EQ into the tuner of the alias. The sound is not automatically reflective and I have to click around just to get it to work. Certainly not in performance mode.
Sorry, Paul but you seem confused about the process and what it is used for. I suggest going back and watching the video again. At no point does it suggest making an alias of an audio channel. This method is for bringing more flexibility to aliases of INSTRUMENT channels, both in the application of different audio effects on the output of the Instrument channel and in the use of the midi input to that Instrument channel. Have another look and you will see that.
I can't imagine a situation where you would want to alias an Audio channel, since that channel is not loaded with memory-intensive plugins like large sample libraries.