China - Turntable & Mainline Running - Huludao Limestone Railway 2004 (Part 1)
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- JS class 2-8-2 number JS6243, hauls a heavy train of limestone from the quarry at Yangjiaoxiang, over a range of hills and to the factory in the city of Huludao on the East China Sea coast. The condtion of the locomotives on this line meant that every train had to stop at the summit of the climb to build steam up again. This usually took around 10 minutes. A feature of the line was the use of turntables to turn the locomotives at each end of the line. Turntables are not common in China. Sadly, the line within Huludao is no more. The cement factory it served is demolished and there are blocks of flats built on some of the former trackbed. The quarry still operates and stone is shipped out by rail using diesels. The turntable at Yangjiaoxiang is still in place. Filmed in June 2004.
Marvelous sight to see such a tough little 2-8-2 making her way with a mineral train in this day and age. China was one of the last major countries to use steam locomotives, and as such they made some of the most modern.
Steam locomotives in North Korean, Cuba, Africa, and Myanner are still running in passenger and freight service.
I love these videos you've posted of steam locomotives in China. Thank you so much. I admire the Chinese for continuing to operate steam locomotives well into the 21st Century. It's fascinating to see them working in revenue service, black and grimy, just as they should be. The Chinese are hard working, industrious people. I tip my hat to them.
Sadly the steam is disappearing very fast in China. I'm hoping to get back there before the end of 2015 for at least one more glimpse of the last genuine industrial steam in the world. Thank you for your kind comments.
Even if it's disappearing, if there's still some operating locomotives this year, it's a wonderful thing. I thought they were all gone already. It's good to hear some still operate. I hope some are preserved and don’t all meet with the scrapper's torch. I'll look forward to whatever videos you may be able to produce for 2015. Thanks for your reply.
g bridgman There's still 4 or 5 steam locations in China. I'll be travelling with the FarRail Tours trip in November if you fancy joining us. Take a look at -
www.farrail.net/pages/touren-engl/Steam-in-china-2015-11-Sandaoling-Baiyin-Fuxin.php
Thank you for the information.
Fantastic. Those JS engines were real workhorses-chunky and seemingly indestructible. Thanks ks for all your wonderful work, especially from those of us who never got see the real thing in China.
That's my pleasure. Have you viewed my JingPeng / JiTong Pass videos? ..... Andy
ua-cam.com/play/PLNKEdhmODMJx1U6LtJ_E6LS2jLsnWaODM.html
@@AndyDandanFisherSteam Yes, they were the firat I discovered. Breathtaking. :-)
Thanks for posting. Great video, brought back many happy memories of going there and seeing the JS's fighting their way over the route (the same year). We watched one trip have two goes at getting up from the quarry to the junction.
The reason for stopping would be to ensure that sufficient water is in the boiler, after its exertions, before descending to the other side.
I've visited China over 20 times and seen most steam railway locations still existing in the last 10 years. This is the only location I've seen with a turntable. I'm sure there were others when steam was everywhere.
This section was a steep climb from the stone works. The JSs had to take a run at the hill to get the loads up to the top!
I also have always loved fast moving freights. I have a sequence in my Cuba Playlist featuring fast freights ... please take a look!
I've been told it's 4 times more expensive to operate a steam locomotive than a diesel. It doesn't seem to have hurt
China's competitive edge any! This is great!
Steam has the advantages of being completely mechanical in nature. It can also use anything that burns to power it. Whereas diesel requires diesel fuel which many other industries need. And once you get good at it you can really streamline the process of diagnosing a mechanical problem. Electrical problems are finicky.
@@theq4602 - China has very little domestic petroleum. That's what the contention over the West Philippines and East Vietnamese Seas is over: petroleum under the sea floor. Fishing, too but petroleum #1.
Very very good filming
Thank you so much !
Love the turntable, great vid :)
The steam locomotives that we have in Cuba are completely different.
Well not completely different ... just a little older in their design. My favourite clip from Cuba that I filmed 6 years earlier than this clip from China is below -ua-cam.com/video/Gh3DjT2ckHI/v-deo.html
Anyway those machines are great . I had the chance to climb some of them all over back in 80s in Cuba when I was a little boy ty man for your videos.
I love the fast freights.
This is Excellent work... Fascinating to watch. Hope you'll preserve this stuff for DVD, libraries, museums, etc. P.S. I think there's a way to correct that warping or bending of the picture?
Thanks. I'm hoping I've gone a long way towards preserving the footage for history's sake on here! I need to re-edit this and many other old tapes using newer software - and hopefully get better results.
Were the locomotives in poor condition? o
Is the coal low-grade or small size stuff like stoker coal that tends to form clinker.
Homage to the iron horse.
Thank you. Please take a look at some of my other videos. I have around 1000 "homages to the iron horse"! ..... Andy
Modern? Those locos are a Japanese design from the 1920s called Mikados.
Ernest. Mikado is merely an internationally recognised name for the wheel arrangement 2-8-2. It derives from a series of 2-8-2's built by Baldwin in 1897 for use in Japan. These JS Class locos were built in China up until 1987 and are copies of a Russian design from the 1950's which in turn was based loosely on US practice. There are still (January 2019) about six working in north western China. Please see my playlist - ua-cam.com/play/PLNKEdhmODMJwMYOtPl5p0NYnhxStAn8jN.html
Andy
@@AndyDandanFisherSteam - And US steam loco practice in the later years was based on a WWI US Railroad Administration series of standardized locomotive designs. The "Mikado" 2-8-2 was called the "McAdoo" during the disagreement with Japan.
@@algrayson8965 And mikados built by the US for use in Asia in WW2 were called MacArthurs. Andy
@@AndyDandanFisherSteam - "The USRA Light 2-8-2 was also called the McAdoo Mikado after William Gibbs McAdoo, the former head of the USRA." -- www.micromark.com/Bachmann-HO-USRA-Light-2-8-2-Steam-Locomotive-with-Medium-Tender-Maine-Central-No-617-Sound_2
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This configuration [2-8-2] of steam locomotive is most often referred to as a Mikado, frequently shortened to Mike, but at times it was also referred to on some railroads in the United States of America as the McAdoo Mikado and, during World War II, the MacArthur.
The old railroaders I knew when I was young all pronounced "Mikado" as "mac- a-doo." I assume that they picked that up during the WWI USRA era.
Though Japan was a US ally in WWI Japan and the Japanese were very unpopular in the USA.
Does her whistle not work?
All Chinese steam locos were fitted with a whistle and an air horn. Some lines used one, some used the other and some used both. It was all down to local practice.
Winchester 1890
USRA mikado clones
Well Raymond, they are 2-8-2's but I'm not sure the similarity goes much further. They're copies of a Russian design from the 50's. The Russian design followed many US principles but that's about it. Here's a photo of an existing S200 plinthed in Turkey ... not too many similarities.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USATC_S200_Class#/media/File:Steam_locomotive_No.46224_Ankara_Museum.JPG
Andy
已经退役了吧
当然。这是在 2004 年记录的。
Of course. This was recorded in 2004 ..... Andy
@@AndyDandanFisherSteam 哈哈