THIS ISNT YOUR GRANDAD'S MACK....CXU613 MP7 10 SPD
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- I HAVE ALWAYS SEEN OLDER MACK TRUCKS AS EXTREMELY HEAVY DUTY AND RELIABLE. THEY WERE REGARDED AS SOME OF THE BEST TRUCKS MADE FOR CERTAIN APPLICATIONS. MACK ENGINES, MACK TRANSMISSIONS AND MACK REAREND. WHEN MACK WAS BOUGHT BY VOLVO IN 2000, I THINK A LOT OF THE OLD SCHOOL LOYAL MACK BUYERS FELT BETRAYED. THEIR BELOVED MACK TRUCKS ARE NOW OWNED BY A FOREIGN COMPANY. IT TARNISHED THE NAME AND QUESTIONED WHAT A MACK TRUCK WOULD BECOME. I NEVER OWNED A MACK BEFORE THIS ONE BUT I HAVE LOOKED AT MANY. MY OPINION IS THIS GENERATION OF MACK FALLS INTO THE SAME CATEGORY OF MOST OTHER TRUCKS OF IT YEAR.....NOT SPECIAL. NOTHING SPECTACULAR. NOTHING THAT STANDS OUT AS "ABOVE ALL".....JUST ANOTHER MODERN TRUCK WITH COMMON PARTS FROM ALL THE MAJOR SUPPLIERS. SO SAD TO SEE ANOTHER ICONIC BRAND SOLD OUT TO BECOME JUST ANOTHER NAME WITH MEDIOCRICY AS THEIR HIGHLIGHT.
got my 2016 pinnacle MP7 ..just love it 650k no issues at all with the engine. Smooth ride six air bags, fuel efficiency.
My dad drove one of those where he use to work (r&l) and he actually liked those trucks in the snow compared to internationals and Pete’s of the same age. Never heard him complain much about them for breakdowns either. Seems like a good buy 👍
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My great-grandfather went over the hill down there in Tennessee he drove for the WPA the only thing that saved him was the Bulldog on the hood my step-dad drove Mack Trucks also the r-type like it was a 88 they are really good at climbing Hills got that nice low end got to love that Buckeye state rust it's on everything kind of like Frank's Red Hot
Hello from Northeast Pennsylvania (Nanticoke) J.C. And Mrs. J.C.!!!
hello j.c & mrs.smith it's is randy and i like yours video is cool thanks j.c friends randy
Not a bad truck J.C! 🙂👍 Our newer Mack trucks at work have a problem with eating steering boxes. They tend to lock up while you're driving with a load. Makes for a sketchy situation. The dealer told us quite a few years of them had a "silent" recall. 🔧🔩 Just something to look for. Take care
Hi JC thank you for sharing 😎
I’ve watched all of your videos. I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone say rustjacking more than you. Love it. You should be in the Guinness book. Lol
Every Mack I have ever driven had the Spark lit up.
not concerned. i think we know what it is.
thanks for sharing always enjoy your videos
Great video J.C.Smith nice truck you purchased. Fix a couple of things and turn around and sell it or something else. Thanks for sharing stay safe Mr & Mrs J.C.Smith.
JC, I bet with a few minor repairs you pointed out, a good pressure washing of the engine, cleaning up the interior and a buff job, you could make a decent profit.
Place I worked at replaced a early 2000s international tandem with a Mack. Never did like it. It’s all in personal preference, I reckon. Cab felt super small with the wrap around dash, road terrible unless it was slap overloaded, and a oil tanker has a tighter turn radius. Always had a reappearing check engine light every few weeks. But I will say it never left us stranded and could plum pull a house down. Great vid as always jc!
who put the mack in it?
Here in Texas they will throw a dump bed on it as a tandem and it will sell quickly. Or they would put a end dump behind it
may not be enough power or the right suspension around here.
@j.c.smithprojects1769 that's true. but here you see it all the time
Don't forget to polish the headlights.
looks like a decent truck. im not so up on the newer ones but my cx613 served me well.
Have to love a 2 wire system. Peterbilt uses a 3 wire. No way to bypass it in a pinch. Usually not the sensor that goes it's the whole tank it has a magnet that floats with the coolsnt level.
Dear J.C. Smith projects family.
👍👌👏 Your truck nr. 81 (respectively 101) runs, sounds and shifts really good. So: Congratulations 🎉 for purchasing this big rig. I'm pretty sure that with, after the typical TLC from both of you, this vehicle could sell well and fast. Or maybe you wanna keep this too? 😁 ;-) 👅😇😘 I guess Jeff will like the bulldog.
As always: Thanks a lot for making teaching explaining recording editing uploading and sharing.
Best regards, luck and especially health to all of you (including good old Jeff of course).
It’s true that Mack isn’t what it was in years past, but I’ve ran anthems and pinnacles on an off the last few years and I’ll take them over my 389 or fld120
Driven lots of 613 concrete mixers with AMi330s mp7 405 egr and mp7 scr with Eaton and Mack 8 9, 12 speeds and Allison 4500rds autos
I think they are great motors, great fuel mileage even when most of the day is spent with your foot on the floor. The scr motors burn way less def than the Cummins or Navistar. They also pull great and have a fantastic jake brake.
Going from the AmI 330 to the 405hp mp7 was like going from a Ford 300 i6 to a 5.9 Cummins in terms of power. though I think the Ami was a fantastic engine too.
I cannot remember a single mp7 having catastrophic engine failure, the N13 Navistar In the truck I drive made it 50k miles before it dropped 2 valves coming up to a stop light.
from what I've heard it is indeed a Volvo engine but with Mack tuning, Don't know if that is true or not.
More like a mack badge
A Mack MP7 is identical to a Volvo D11, MP8 to D13, and MP10 to D16, and I don't even think the tune is any different. Could be different though, but I know they often share the exact same EECU.
Thanks for the video. Looks like a nice truck.
When I was at the county, we had a pre-volvo mack for a water truck. Great truck, but oddly it was just a 5 speed. No two speed rear or anything. Kinda weird. Supposedly it was built from a OTR rig.
i have seen many old macks with single range transmissions.
I grew up on macks and got my class a at 18 in a mack so they are my favorites !!! I like super liners and the rd688 style because the older ones are the toughest trucks going . Nobody really likes the macks for road tractors because they rode so hard in the past due to having all heavy spec parts on them bit for abusive jobs like dump trucks and day cab lowboy work an older mack is my first pick !!!
well this one isnt one of the old school macks for sure. it is built just like most other trucks in this year.
Everything newer than 2008 that " requires " ultra low sulfer diesel is junk in my opinion . Never had issues with the older stuff and you could get way better fuel consumption .oh yeah you could normally fix it to keep going for the day too ....not anymore
Nice truck JC!!! Thanks for sharing!
Hopefully branching out to a different brand will bring you new customers interested in what you make and sell. Good luck. Thanks
When you said you don’t want it or need it, I knew you were going to buy it. Back in the old days, only Mack’s with Mack engines had the gold bulldog hood ornament. If it was not a Mack engine, the bulldog was silver. I drove an old Mack many miles back in the 80’s. Not good memories. It was a worn out junker with a tag axle. I drove it from the Bay Area to Dallas in the summer with no AC. Miserable.
Mack Still does the Gold dog for all Mack components.
@@SootyMangabey. thanks
If you think about it. Our generation of Mack's. I'm talking 80's and up. Mack was always owned by a foreign manufacturer. Before Volvo,is was Renault. The new trucks yes have Volvo running gear, and electronics. The rear ends can still be all Mack, especially the top loader rear gears. If you look at other truck manufacturers, there all owned,or powered by outside owners. Freightliner,Western Star are under Mercedes. International is under the Volkswagen flag. The PACCAR engine in Peterbilt, and KW,that's a European design. I'm actually fine with the Volvo group ownership.
i grew up hearing my dad and grandad talking about the importance of american made by american owned companies. i truly believe if we had it all back here again, we would be a much stronger and more self reliant nation.
I completely agree!
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Great video!!!
If you ever find a golden bulldog Mack might wanna reconsider not getting! If it’s an authentic gold bulldog it has all original OE parts
got any part numbers for those rusted coolant lines?
under cdl single axle 6 yard bed or 8ft tall side or 9ft short side
Over cdl 6wheeler prefer 9ft 8 yard bed 40000gvw
10 wheeler needs to have a 16-18ft bed or 18 yards
Triple axle dump 22 yard body
My dad drove a V8 Mack in the 90s. But it is sad that so many great companies get brought out by cheap European truck companies. Mercedes Benz brought out Freightliner and Western Star.
Western star use to be thought of as a quality truck. not sure about that since they were bought out.
@@j.c.smithprojects the new western Star looks like the Freightline Cascadia. And thx to Mercedes-Benz. For kill the argosy
Mack ain't been Mack since they left Allentown.
While I hear you, the fact is that fleet purchases are the race to the bottom. The cheapest truck that barely meets the specs will win and be bought. There is no money in making something of higher quality that will last longer. Most companies keep the truck only until the warranty is up and the magic Million miles is on the clock and then they dump it as quickly as possible before they have to spend one cent more on it. Any investment into something longer-lasting or better quality is futile; the fleet purchasers are not spending more money so that the second or third owners end up with a better truck.
Yes, owner-operators may think differently, and so may some vocational truck buyers, but the margin for spending cash on the truck is limited there as well. As a society, we seem happy with "buying cheap, buying twice" and the manufacturers are catering to that. I own a couple of vintage class 8 trucks and the idea that anyone would be interested in keeping this old trash in running and working order blows the heads of the average Millennial parts counter guy right up. "You need a part for a truck OLDER than 2002?????" POOF.
best to know the fleet company and their maintenance programs. i know this one well.
What kind of scan tool do you use on the heavy duty side? I’m in the market for one, but not sure what to get.
i primarily use the snap on pro link with o.e. software. it works ok for what i do but if i was in a shop setting and needed to move fast, i would go with something else. there are far better options. i bought this used from a guy that was retiring. so i saved a pile if money over new.
so with how great you do with frames would it be a better truck (value versus improvement cost) to make into a longer dump truck or leave it as a shorter one? which would sell quicker for ya
i think it is not the ideal dump because of a few factors, wrong suspension, too short, too light a steer axle and too light of rear axles. not saying it couldnt be done. its just a lot of work to build a less than attractive dump. im going to do the minor repairs, remove the roof air foil, put 4 drive tires on it and 1 steer tire. then we will see if it sells. if it doesnt, i will look into creating more value.
well you have had some real bad repairs by other people i just got done fixing my friends 03 tahoe he needed brakes someone before him owning this thing welded the backs of the front rotors adding a strip along the center of the pad area and randomly ground the heat glaze off the front of them instead of replacing or turning the rotors they are a MESS im glad he did like i said got pads an new rotors just in case
looking forward to seeing more on the mack
Let’s finish the sxs trailer. Awaiting the finial wiring so I can order the parts I need to split the blinker and tail light. And still trying to figure out what your doing with the receiver tubes mounted upright
its coming. i have made some progress but i have a few other things that need my attention right now.
I am a Kenworth guy but the Mack doesn't look bad. Freightliner and Volvo no.
It’s a really good looking truck J.C.! I hope you can get a healthy profit off of it. Are you not a Volvo fan just because they’re cheaply produced?
i dont like any imported vehicle. i dont like the issues volvo has. i hate their wiring techniques.
Mack has been dead for years sadly.
They were bought in 2007 not 2000
Volvo bought both Mack and its parent company, Renault in 2000. From Mack's own website, page for corporate history..."On December 18, 2000 the United States Department of Justice
approved the acquisition of Mack by AB Volvo, Sweden. Mack is acquired by AB Volvo." 2006 was the first year that the Volvo/Mack MP7 (D-11) and 2007 was the first MP8 (D13) was offered in the new Mack Pinnacle with the Volvo Advantage frame that replaced the Vision.
Have you been selling alot of used parts lately?
Seems like people are fixing instead of buying new
not been selling anything. been focused on finishing some of my projects and buying more...
@j.c.smithprojects1769 haha I thought you where saying in earlier videos you where downsizing!
Switch and go dump trucks/roll backs are where the $ is right now a 25999 switch and go truck starts at 40g around me and a hook lift cdl truck at least 20 25g with no cans for a decent truck
i went 7 months without buying a truck.......and then i fell off the wagon.
@j.c.smithprojects1769 bahahahaha it happens bro!
I was gonna save money etc etc
Then my wife found my secret stash of very expensive 68 c10 parts lol 😆
it was actually my wife that said, "you should probably buy that. im sure you can make good money on it." i dont blame her but i kinda wish she would have maybe told me to stick to what i was doing. 6 trucks, 3 trailers and a few pennies later....here we are.
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Besides that yeah m drive and I shift Volvos are identical. Volvos are for automatic drivers. 😂😂
Hopefully you don't get the lightning bolt of terror on the dash.....
edit: nevermind its already there
not being a jerk but are you new here?
@j.c.smithprojects1769 been here for years. We had multiple mack granites where I use to work and once you saw the lightning bolt it was no time before they started throwing money at parts that didn't have issues..... always needed to be forced into a regin cycle...... honestly the biggest headache I've ever messed with. Enjoy your project, I'll keep watching 👍
i figured it was someone who didnt know how i enjoy electrical issues. it is on for the coolant sensor i have unplugged. still waiting on one from mack. they said it is a common part but they were out of them. must have a high failure rate i guess. fingers crossed this truck treats us and its new owner well.
@j.c.smithprojects1769 thanks for the content, always enjoy the videos👍
Your dam right volvos are trash
Only beginners and poor people will buy a road tractor and make a dump truck out of it. It’s not a good move the frames on the light for an axle cannot take it.
beginners and poor people.....must be a lot of beginners and poor people in the world because its done everyday.
Mack doesn't even know anything about mack anymore sad.. if you're interested in buying a mack I'm selling my 2002 mack vision sleeper truck has a 475hp mack E7 engine.
this is my first. not sure about any more until this one is sold.
@@j.c.smithprojects ya you mentioned selling rigs is a bad time right now can you tell me why that may be? Thank you
trucking industry as a whole is tanking right now. the amount of freight to be moved is low and the number of trucks available is high. people are taking freight for the same rates as they were 10 years ago when diesel was half the cost. insurance rates are skyrocketing. most insurance companies invest your premiums into things that will make money on your money. lots of those investments are unstable and move up and down so quickly, they are not making enough to operate. so the insurance companies are raising rates to cover costs. many major corporations are closing after decades of profitable years in business. many small operations are struggling to keep busy with a much smaller margin and less freight. when you have an abundance of trucks for sale and people you are desperate to get them sold to cover their bills, values drop drastically. that is what i am seeing right now.
@@j.c.smithprojects I understand that is what is happening with my mack it worth 20k forced to sell for 6I if lucky. Appreciate your input it's a damm shame J.C that it's the way it is. Appreciate you sir
Eww a mack
Volvo is 🤮