Ott Tänak Returns to Hyundai for 2024

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  • Опубліковано 14 чер 2024
  • The breaking news coming from the WRC is that after a difficult season at M-Sport Ford, Ott Tänak has made a shock return to Hyundai Motorsport after one year away from the team. Find out the reasons behind this move, and what it could mean for the WRC driver market.
    00:00 Intro
    00:45 Tänak's decision
    02:00 Who Tänak will join?
    03:00 Where does that leave Toyota & M-Sport?
    04:08 Outro
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  • @piiluja
    @piiluja 8 місяців тому +63

    For all you who think that "Tänak would play second violin in Thierry's team", remember that in 2022 Tänak won 3 events with Hyundai and 3 times was second, Thierry won 2 and got 2 second places. Despite of spectacular crash in Monte Carlo and canceling in Kenya in championship points Tänak was on that season 2nd after Rovanpera.

    • @revenger210
      @revenger210 8 місяців тому +11

      still feels insane to me that hyundai threw him under the bridge for acropolis last year, esp when he was on a hot streat of victories and eating away kalle's points difference in the championship

    • @feline6758
      @feline6758 8 місяців тому +3

      Lol Neuville was off pace last season, look at his speed now

    • @SOARESDACOSTA
      @SOARESDACOSTA 8 місяців тому

      its another management now... That, and a couple of millions, made is mind... and the possibility to clinch another title. @@revenger210

    • @hannuainsalo6825
      @hannuainsalo6825 8 місяців тому +1

      @@revenger210 he wasn't even that close to Kalle. It was much more important to Hyundai secure 1,2,3 than give Ott more points

    • @elisterr
      @elisterr 8 місяців тому +12

      Nobody feels that Neuville is a better driver than Tänak. Not the drivers, not the fans, not the journalists, not Neuville himself. :D

  • @DaleyRetro
    @DaleyRetro 8 місяців тому +40

    Tanak was definitely thinking he'd be in contention for the championship in 2023 when he moved to M-Sport, similar to when Ogier did the move to them. Unfortunately the reliability just hasn't been there! I still think he regrets leaving Toyota but now there is no space there for him.

    • @knutendreringhagen289
      @knutendreringhagen289 8 місяців тому +7

      Leaving Toyota was Tanak's biggest failure of his career in my opinion. He would have been multiple world champion if he had stayed with them.

    • @screwyouhippiecartman2884
      @screwyouhippiecartman2884 8 місяців тому

      You are right but I think at this poin(atToyota) he was after the money ,cause akiyo is so passionate and team is so great ,Toyota genuinely likes rally ,and despite watching everything he wanted to leave Toyota, clearly he was after the money.but anyway let's see

  • @bernardoberner4
    @bernardoberner4 8 місяців тому +28

    Honestly I was expecting Ott to try at least one more year in Msport

  • @vokelvo
    @vokelvo 8 місяців тому +79

    I would love to see Sebastian Loeb return to Msport add Oliver Solsberg Adrian and Pierre would be a formidable team it would challenge for the win too i think

    • @Flat4fun
      @Flat4fun 8 місяців тому +9

      Agreed! Sort of how Subaru had Tommi and Petter. I think the teacher student and personality dynamic with Loeb would be very beneficial for Oliver!!

    • @macheerou
      @macheerou 8 місяців тому +5

      Not sure if Loeb wants to commit for a full season in WRC again, but he's been doing some rallies lately and his Lancia caught fire in WRX, so a partial appearance sounds logical

    • @steadyeddie2718
      @steadyeddie2718 8 місяців тому +2

      I would love this. I just don't think the Puma is cometitve enough to really challenge. M-Sport kept going on about Loeb's one win 2022 and the one other time they led a rally (until the car broke), trying to defend when Ott was suggesting the Puma lacks performance. But that's not (good) enough.

    • @steadyeddie2718
      @steadyeddie2718 8 місяців тому +2

      @@Flat4fun Seb has already taught Oliver how to drive on tarmac a few years ago, There's a youtube video of it somewhere, But I agree, I think it would really help Oliver, similarly to how Ott learned from the other Seb (whether Ott admits it or not).

    • @TheVentour79
      @TheVentour79 8 місяців тому +1

      Really?! Do what? Can't start always 7th on the road and he is near 50yo. His last victory showed that he can still have the pace on termac, but he needed Ogier to had a puncture on the penultimate stage to win. On Gravel and with top 3 starting order he would never catch Tanak. Much less Kalle.

  • @Franko384
    @Franko384 8 місяців тому +21

    Of course it is the most logical choice for Tänak to drive for the team that gives him the best chance of winning his second title.
    Still, I can't help feeling so dissapointed.

  • @bett431
    @bett431 8 місяців тому +31

    Honestly, its just not good for World Rallying if M-Sport has no Driver on that level. The timing is also bad, and from a car development side since E.P is there its been going up, while Ott and Thierry seem to want very different setups and behaviors from the car, which restricts both in the end. Also Sordo being pushed out like this is not an improvement for the Championship.

    • @steadyeddie2718
      @steadyeddie2718 8 місяців тому +2

      I really tried to find an argument against... and couldn't. Sadly, you are right on all points. I think Ott's results will improve a bit, but the championship as a whole loses.

  • @GranDaddo
    @GranDaddo 8 місяців тому +24

    I am not sure what M-Sport has as alternative, but this is serious blow. The fact that Ott almost outperformed Thierry in team with far more money and support is testament that Ott is game changer and Ford is on good track. It would be shame not to see what Puma can actually do in 2024.

  • @johnathanrose1000
    @johnathanrose1000 8 місяців тому +13

    I don't know if anyone will agree but this kinda just makes me think that there really needs to be more manufactures in WRC. I say this with no sarcasm, why aren't more manufactures involved in WRC? is it the rules or something?

    • @explodingrabbit51
      @explodingrabbit51 8 місяців тому +1

      Rally1 has been a massive flop, and the promoters suck. There was so much positive momentum in the late teens with the 1.6+ cars and the talent the series had, and nearly all of it is gone. The fact sports car racing (and I say this as someone who grew up watching and still follows it) manages to have greater coverage in the racing press tells you all you need to know.

    • @bat33.12
      @bat33.12 8 місяців тому

      The cost of a Rally1 WRC car has got out of control and who wants to develop a hybrid powered car when manufacturers are investing billions in electric?
      As much as I believe electric is not for me with current tech the manufacturers are committed heavily now like it or lump it.

    • @steadyeddie2718
      @steadyeddie2718 8 місяців тому +2

      Everyone agrees! This topic has actually been discussed to death and yes, it's mainly the cost but also the marke size, fanbase and appeal of the WRC product to the general public compared to other motorsports. WRC is small and not as appealing. But yes, more manufacturers make it so much better. Even late 90s and ealy 00s were so much better, then it all changed in mid-00s...

    • @johnathanrose1000
      @johnathanrose1000 8 місяців тому

      I believe loosening the rules would bring in manufactures. go back to gas engines as well. I get everything has mainly been done for safety but this is rallying...its meant to be dangerous which draws people's attention. Group B was so popular for a reason...@@steadyeddie2718

  • @xenofalcon
    @xenofalcon 8 місяців тому +13

    I just feel bad for M-sport. They're really trying their best to hang in there, but it's just not enough.

  • @DirtFish
    @DirtFish  8 місяців тому +11

    😯 Be honest... did you see this one coming? Does Tänak have a chance at the drivers championship in 2024?

    • @igormartyka7850
      @igormartyka7850 8 місяців тому +2

      No... I hope he will stay with M Sport.

    • @diocan7710
      @diocan7710 8 місяців тому +1

      M sport is done...

    • @bjornbrandt6943
      @bjornbrandt6943 8 місяців тому +4

      Maybe, maybe not, but to be fair it sounds logical in the end. Tänak want's another title and the car that he does not have to overdrive to 110% is Hyundai, like he needs to do with Ford. He has to drive Hyundai maybe 103% to get the same results as Kalle. Kalle is the only competition from Toyotas side at the moment. But as Tänak has matured, smart drive will give him also good change of the title when Kalle is but to the pressure. Out of all the current drivers Tänak is the fastest, or let's but it this way, he can drive on the limit longer before making a mistake. That would mean Tänak vs Kalle next year.

    • @MrLukazenko
      @MrLukazenko 8 місяців тому +5

      Nope didn't see this coming, Tänak and msport have done so much work with the car, thought it's going to be winner next year

    • @fredrikalmqvist6700
      @fredrikalmqvist6700 8 місяців тому

      It will be difficult to compete against Neuville, can Tänak cope with such a situation?🤔

  • @fishingflies2664
    @fishingflies2664 8 місяців тому +4

    Good and happy for him. The PUMA really let him down this year. Tanak is the only driver who has not crashed his car this season.

  • @dav821220
    @dav821220 8 місяців тому +51

    Not a clever decision to leave Toyota in the beginning ☺️

    • @tyronnezx
      @tyronnezx 8 місяців тому +7

      Yeap. and he is paying the price for it. Good riddance

    • @tyronnezx
      @tyronnezx 8 місяців тому +4

      @@Josh_728 it was Makkinens toxic wife. They let her handle the contract negotiations, and it blew up in the team's face. Doesn't help that Markko Märtin was Otts manager. I hope to god that Ott never sees a Toyota seat again

    • @YoutubeStoleMyNick
      @YoutubeStoleMyNick 8 місяців тому +3

      @@tyronnezx Funny how I have heard totally different story, that Markko "Ryssä" Märtin was making ludicrous demans and basically Toyota called his bluff. They demanded exclusive first driver privliges etc. shit and Tommi said no. Good thing they rejectected them. Toyota has now way stronger driver line up, than they would have if Markko "Ryssä" Märtin would had his way.

    • @tyronnezx
      @tyronnezx 8 місяців тому +1

      @@UA-camStoleMyNick this is also true. This is what happened from Toyotas perspective

    • @feline6758
      @feline6758 8 місяців тому +9

      @@Josh_728 a finn simply cannot mention an estonian without personal insult

  • @renard8137
    @renard8137 8 місяців тому +9

    Tanak can definitely beat Rovenpera in the Hyundai next year. I also think there will be clausules in his contract in his favour regarding eventual team orders this time.

  • @TheExitKerb
    @TheExitKerb 8 місяців тому +26

    I dont think EP will be happy with a part-time season. Therefore, i believe he and Jernie will leave Hyundai and go to M-Sport. If sordo goes into a team management role and hyundai brings a 4th car, I believe that the 4th car will be teemu and mirko. I do reckon if lindholm and retta has a good next season they could get a debut in a rally1 car.

    • @yogawombat9199
      @yogawombat9199 8 місяців тому +4

      If Hyundai really wants to fight for the manufacturer title next season then they have to keep EP in a full time third car and hope he doesn't end every other rally in a convertible.
      Ogier with his part time driving is winning too many events to give Hyundai a chance if Hyundai has only 3 cars out and the third is shared by Sunninen and Sordo or who ever.

    • @I.H.92
      @I.H.92 8 місяців тому +1

      Jernie, Mirko & Retta 😂 How about Janne, Mikko & Reetta haha

    • @TheExitKerb
      @TheExitKerb 8 місяців тому

      @@I.H.92 🤣🤣

  • @johnmorrison27
    @johnmorrison27 8 місяців тому +29

    Money from RedBull must have run out for M Sport for next year so they could not afford him.
    Still they threw the dice and tried but it’s been a very frustrating season for all involved.

    • @Matthew-ll9ke
      @Matthew-ll9ke 8 місяців тому +10

      Doubt its that complicated, the money to pay Tanak is chicken feed compared with the money needed to develop the car that he wants

  • @jonathanslimm2727
    @jonathanslimm2727 8 місяців тому +10

    Something was a bit off after his win in Chile. Didn't seem to be that happy with the victory to me, this is probably why.

    • @e2rqey
      @e2rqey 8 місяців тому +15

      he never looks that happy tbh lol

    • @explodingrabbit51
      @explodingrabbit51 8 місяців тому +3

      ​@e2rqey I legit think I've only seen Tänak smile after his first win and clincing the championship in 2019. Love him as a driver but he really seems like a miserable dude.

  • @tvm45
    @tvm45 8 місяців тому +3

    wouldn't mind seeing solberg at Msport. however does leave them without an experienced driver unless pierre steps up. we know pierre has pace.

    • @Franko384
      @Franko384 8 місяців тому +1

      Solberg makes sense as a driver. He wants to get back to rally1 and well M Sport obviously needs a driver now. Problem is, M Sport are sponsored by Red Bull and Solberg is sponsored by their biggest rival Monster Energy.

  • @ExMachinaEngineering
    @ExMachinaEngineering 8 місяців тому +2

    Yes. Your description as bombshell is correct

  • @MarioJBGugisch
    @MarioJBGugisch 8 місяців тому +3

    a bit concerning
    There were some rumors about M-sport leaving wrc. Maybe thats true?
    Only 3 teams already suck, imagine a championship with only Toyota and Hyundai?! WRC really need to do something about it

  • @paulhaines9124
    @paulhaines9124 8 місяців тому +19

    Very surprised at this, seeing as Tanak was so unhappy at hyundai last year. Maybe msport is a chance for Mikkelsen to move back to WRC? Or perhaps they'll nab Sordo. They need an experienced driver either way.

    • @dendunn4288
      @dendunn4288 8 місяців тому +2

      That's the end of wrc

    • @Baleygrr
      @Baleygrr 8 місяців тому

      MSport needs a pay driver(s). Or a cheaper than Tänak driver who's got some experience in WRC.

    • @jyrkikari-koskinen719
      @jyrkikari-koskinen719 8 місяців тому

      AriVatanen & Ali Haimakainen gave FORD the CHAMPIONSHIP FOR FREE !!!
      Cheaper than that It never can be... Malcolm Wilson still remembers.

    • @dendunn4288
      @dendunn4288 8 місяців тому +3

      msport need a go fund me page

  • @kabekana
    @kabekana 8 місяців тому +15

    in one hand Tanak does his classic Tanak things: shitty season because of team change/new car, gets car running to the point where he can actually be on podiums, changes team again... In the other hand from his perspective Hyundai offers much more money and more reliable car. But it's just so sad that Tanak and M-sport will part their ways again. It would be lovely to watch the next season when the underdog (M-sport) with diehard driver (Tanak) grabbing podiums, imo that combination added alot to this year, but unluckly puma is not reliable car at the moment. and next year there will be basically two teams, with great chance that m-sport slowly fades away...

    • @jessewasarealboy
      @jessewasarealboy 8 місяців тому +1

      agreed

    • @rjung_ch
      @rjung_ch 8 місяців тому +1

      I fan for Ott but not for Ford. So, wherever he goes, I'll be watching him with pleasure. He's one of the best out there.

  • @revenger210
    @revenger210 8 місяців тому +70

    I don't feel Tanak will be allowed to fight for the championship; I feel Hyundai is Neuville's team above everything else, and the team orders employed against Lappi and Breen earlier in the season proves that. So him coming back feels like a mistake, but inevitable given how much of a dog the Puma and the chaotic operations at M-Sport proved to be

    • @markosajn5776
      @markosajn5776 8 місяців тому +19

      I don't think that is the case. He will be equal to Neuville. He is probably better driver than him and that would be stupid decision to make him just a wingman.

    • @revenger210
      @revenger210 8 місяців тому +5

      @@markosajn5776 we can really only infer from the decisions that led him to leave last year, as well as Arbiteboul's statements this year about being determined to give Neuville the championship. I hope Tanak is given equal merit, but Hyundai has been ruthless with its team orders, so we will have to wait and see - and hope it doesn't blow up in Ott's hands

    • @Shadow-wk6ny
      @Shadow-wk6ny 8 місяців тому +4

      Neuville is clearly better than lappi and breen tanak and neuville are championship level drivers in my opinion 2020-2022 shows they are equal

    • @tyronnezx
      @tyronnezx 8 місяців тому +1

      @@revenger210 It will. People goto Hyundai to destroy their careers

    • @marceloliwa3702
      @marceloliwa3702 8 місяців тому +8

      Well, out of 3 seasons when Thierry and Ott were teammates, Tanak was higher in the standings two times. He has the world title. I cannot imagine a scenario when the team asks him to not fight with Neuville.

  • @sergejsl8712
    @sergejsl8712 8 місяців тому +9

    What did Ott expected? First year with M-sport and allready champion? It never works that way . He could create team and car for his driving style and have big chance next year. Now he second violin in Therry\Hyundai team again.

    • @feline6758
      @feline6758 8 місяців тому +3

      He can't create anything without Ford's support like Ogier had in 2017

    • @sergejsl8712
      @sergejsl8712 8 місяців тому

      @@feline6758 Msport atleast could lisening his no1 driver and make something what can help them to be in top. In Hyundai he wil be silenced.

    • @alvar891
      @alvar891 8 місяців тому +2

      Msport let down loeb the same way. only 1 win where the car held together. Same with ott retiring half of the rallies. Breen also could not get results with that car. They are just underfunded and not reliable enough at the top level. This is the second year for msport with a fast driver who knows how to win.

    • @explodingrabbit51
      @explodingrabbit51 8 місяців тому +1

      I don't think he expected to have a car had reliability problems as frequently as the initial World Rally Cars. That Rally Estonia engine block issue was one of the most embarrassing things I've seen in motorsport, which says a lot.

  • @explodingrabbit51
    @explodingrabbit51 8 місяців тому +1

    Nice actually getting some sort of insider scoop at 1:50. I'll give Ott credit, despite making one of the worst moves of all time he hasn't let his career fizzle out like what happened to Petter. I'm intrigued enough with next season to renew my Rally TV subscription.

  • @gtisid
    @gtisid 8 місяців тому +3

    doesnt surprise me in the least with his winning comment 'for a small bunch of guys they did well'
    without works backing sport will always be playing second fiddle.
    it shouldn't be this way

  • @roadfly360
    @roadfly360 8 місяців тому +5

    M-Sport needs a full time star driver for 2024 that can help develop M-Sports cars. WRC 2 has many drivers to choose from . But what will happen when Subaru joins WRC Ott will go there too?

    • @rjung_ch
      @rjung_ch 8 місяців тому +1

      That could happen and would be very interesting to follow and see.

  • @ondraspendlik9759
    @ondraspendlik9759 8 місяців тому +4

    We still didn't get confirmation from anyone (WRC, M-Sport, Hyundai or Ott or Martin themselves), but if this is true, it's a pity, but I can understand his decision.¨
    The team he's returning into is partially different and seems to have a different approach. I'm sure he's not returning to play second fiddle to Thierry, I rather expect them to have the same approach as Toyota (you can race eachother however you want, but make sure to bring the cars home).
    Why did he make the decision? It's simple, a driver of his level shouldn't have to give up his championship hopes because the car is suffering from problems all the time. I'm sure it's nothing against M-Sport, but that car can only fail him so many times. Ott Tanak is not the youngest anymore, in fact, he's the oldest full time driver now (turning 36 this month, although Thierry and Elfyn aren't much younger, and I'm sure these guys have a few more great years in the WRC ahead of themselves). And while rallying sure is fun for him, it's still a very hard, very time consuming and a pretty dangerous job. So if you're already doing it, if you're already risking your life and leaving your family for long weeks at a time, and you're on the level of Ott Tanak, you better make it worth your while. And the reality is, Hyundai can provide a better car, a better chance of the championship, and also a bigger monetary reward for his work than M-Sport can.
    Could he have fought for the title with M-Sport next year? Sure, if they had the money to pay him and make the car reliable enough (which they seemingly don't). With Hyundai, he can be sure he gets the best shot at it. There's literally zero advantage for him at staying with M-Sport. He even knows the car he's getting into, because he was driving it a year ago, and he knows it will fit him.
    Either way, this may be one of his last shots at the title. Neuville and Evans are looking strong too and Rovanpera will only get better. I hope for a close four way fight next year for the driver's title and a close contest for the manufacturer's crown too. And I hope M-Sport can have a decent season next year, get some good drivers and turn them into rally winners in the Puma.

  • @olliebrown89
    @olliebrown89 8 місяців тому +4

    Leaving Toyota was a bad move. I was hoping he would do what Ogier managed at M Sport. Not sure where M Sport go from here, they really need an A list driver to compete. Ogier?

  • @TheLeewi98
    @TheLeewi98 8 місяців тому +4

    Loubet and Fourmaux lineup would be the worst one I can remember for a long time.

  • @mickrichBMXWRXJapan
    @mickrichBMXWRXJapan 8 місяців тому +6

    I think it's always a bad idea to go back to your old team (CR7) or girlfriend (me), but hope it all works out well for both Tanak and Hyundai (and Neuville), not to mention M-Sport.

    • @andreiionescu205
      @andreiionescu205 8 місяців тому

      F your gf

    • @steadyeddie2718
      @steadyeddie2718 8 місяців тому

      Girlfriend? Ouch... I'd geneally agree, but I do think it's different in WRC with only 3 teams and M-Sport not being at the same level

  • @andybunney7902
    @andybunney7902 8 місяців тому +1

    Didn't see that coming

  • @pauljt
    @pauljt 8 місяців тому +6

    Understandable for Tanak, it's a short career, drivers must be selfish.
    Fear for MSport. Few options for a lead driver - Mikkelsen, Loeb (not full-time?). Bad for the championship if the team is only a place for developing drivers, not winning rallies.

    • @Baleygrr
      @Baleygrr 8 місяців тому +1

      I wonder if Msport could sign Sami Pajari or Oliver Solberg. I think it would probably be the better option compared to those older and more expensive drivers. Maybe it's just me but i think Pajari could already do really well in a Rally1 car.

    • @pauljt
      @pauljt 8 місяців тому +2

      @@Baleygrr Expectation Pajari to Toyota as development driver for their new Rally2, with inducement of Rally1 in future.

  • @bat33.12
    @bat33.12 8 місяців тому +2

    I'm not surprised at all, it's felt strained for some time now at Ford and the only seat available was back to Hyundai but with new management hopefully Ott get's a fair crack at the title again.
    I hoped Ford could step up but reliability has been awful along with some questionable decisions from M-Sport especially around the engine issue in Estonia, that was a shocker. Let's cross our fingers and hope it holds together is not how you win a world title. Money issues probably played some part in the reliability as M-Sport operate on a much lower budget than Toyota or Hyundai but the same issues cropped up time and again. Ford need to commit to the program fully if they are going to win another title.

  • @e2rqey
    @e2rqey 8 місяців тому +12

    This is like the rally equivalent of Daniel Riccardo going back to be the number 2 driver at the Red Bull, which is Max's team through and through.
    That being said I don't think there are any two drivers in WRC who complain more consistently about their cars (not saying it isn't justified), so this pairing should be super fun for the Hyundai mechanics. 😅

    • @elisterr
      @elisterr 8 місяців тому +1

      Do you honestly think that Neuville will rank higher in the World Championship while having the same car with Tänak? I mean. On skill alone, Ogier & Tänak and perhaps Rovanperä are the best on the grid. Neuville is not among them.

    • @steadyeddie2718
      @steadyeddie2718 8 місяців тому

      Haha, completely agree with you about the complaining :D
      But Hyundai isn't Thierry's team aymore. It was for years and that's partly why Ott left I think. But things have changed a lot since last season.

  • @pierremigneault
    @pierremigneault 5 місяців тому

    I'm just looking right now some of off season tests in monaco and my god the Yaris seems so much more under control. I wish Thierry Neuville had a car to compete.

  • @ajrichar0
    @ajrichar0 8 місяців тому

    Is this Luke Barry narrating? If so, excellent work. I'll watch Dirtfish's videos with this voice narrating.

    • @lukebarry4551
      @lukebarry4551 8 місяців тому

      It is me! That’s very kind of you

  • @DeLaLosPedros
    @DeLaLosPedros 8 місяців тому

    I could see it coming but still would not believe, although the new boss is a wise man so that made all the difference. I knew but it still is a surprise. This means 2 main Factory cars has now amazing season to come 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🤟🤟🤟🤟

  • @InTecknicolour
    @InTecknicolour 8 місяців тому +2

    no surprise at all. you could see he was frustrated all year. he could actually challenge thierry and kalle now for the title.

  • @dimitrisvarvakis7724
    @dimitrisvarvakis7724 8 місяців тому +7

    So M-Sport will be officially a 2nd division team next year...

    • @YoutubeStoleMyNick
      @YoutubeStoleMyNick 8 місяців тому +1

      M-Sport has been official 2nd division team for long time now and it serves Malcom Wilson right.

    • @dimitrisvarvakis7724
      @dimitrisvarvakis7724 8 місяців тому +1

      @@UA-camStoleMyNick at least in the last couple of years they managed a freak victory here and there, all thanks to the talents of Loeb and Tanak to keep them in the limelight somehow. Now if their lineup is Loubet, Fourmeaux and who else, I doubt it can happen again.

  • @loukas371
    @loukas371 8 місяців тому +4

    Sad to see M-Sport lose its strongest asset but I guess *someone* has to make it harder for Toyota. Their driver lineup is simply so much better on average. Add to that the Yaris which in most cases has a performance edge and they are unbeatable. Nothing against Toyota of course, I love them, I would just love to see more competition in the championship. As for M-Sport... I don't know but I hope they can get stronger somehow. They did have a driver to contest a championship this year but the reliability was disappointing.

    • @alvar891
      @alvar891 8 місяців тому +1

      Now would be the time for the polo to come back. That car would properly challenge toyota. Its always just one great car beating others until it gets boring.

    • @loukas371
      @loukas371 8 місяців тому +1

      @@alvar891 Would love to see VW and more come back. I have played this shit out of Polos in rally games

  • @86themadhatter27
    @86themadhatter27 8 місяців тому +2

    I sort of expected this. Ott needs a reliable car and Hyundai needs reliable drivers. Msport are in big trouble, they need a driver like Ott who can help develop the car and not put it in the scenery every rally

    • @steadyeddie2718
      @steadyeddie2718 8 місяців тому +1

      Very well said. I also expected this and very much agree with your reasoning

  • @bluesmanken123
    @bluesmanken123 8 місяців тому +7

    Andreas Mikkelsen would be a great asset for M-Sport, he's fast and reliable.

    • @steadyeddie2718
      @steadyeddie2718 8 місяців тому

      The most overlooked and unlucky senior driver imo. I love young Solberg but I can't believe Hyundai let Mikkelsen go and le Solberg have a drive, and neither of the Finns have been better.

  • @aaronbryan5095
    @aaronbryan5095 8 місяців тому +11

    Leaving Toyota was a big mistake.
    Also, why is M-sport still trying to struggle and hang onto Rally1 and represent Ford when Ford themselves aren't even giving M-sport full financial support?

    • @user-nl8qd8mj7q
      @user-nl8qd8mj7q 8 місяців тому +1

      Absolutly, 100%

    • @alvar891
      @alvar891 8 місяців тому +2

      Ppl keep saying that him leaving toyota was a mistake and that leaving hyundai was a mistake etc. All i see is him moving around helps shuffle things around. Him leaving toyota was great who needs one guy dominating others for years. Hyundai needed to get faster on fast gravel rallies and it did thanks to him. Msport needed a fast driver and he gave it all there. So did Loeb and retired the same way as him. Its better for the sport this way. Loeb and Ogier made the sport boring sitting in a perfect car for them dominating all those years. The fight between teams is as important as the drivers fight.

  • @Billiamiscool
    @Billiamiscool 8 місяців тому +11

    Somethings really wrong at M-sport, no one seems to want to drive for them

    • @blairwalton4456
      @blairwalton4456 8 місяців тому +20

      It's the lack of money and not been a full factory team

    • @iare19
      @iare19 8 місяців тому +5

      They couldnt even afford testing days. It's a career killer you have to deliver every rally but it's hard if you have shittiest car and smallest team.
      Hyundai has changed a lot in last year, good move from Tänak if he wants to continue.

    • @davidnjoroge8495
      @davidnjoroge8495 8 місяців тому +1

      water pump issues

    • @Baleygrr
      @Baleygrr 8 місяців тому

      What do you mean no one wants to drive for them, I'd like to drive a Msport Ford Puma Rally1 !!! I wish i had a rich daddy and lots of $$$...

    • @maybenot6075
      @maybenot6075 8 місяців тому +2

      Rich millener needs to be removed, iv seen it all year and since he came on as TP theres a weirdness between him & the drivers like he thinks hes Billy big bolox and the drivers are under him

  • @grahamcuddy2215
    @grahamcuddy2215 8 місяців тому +3

    Tank returns

  • @anttirytkonen11
    @anttirytkonen11 8 місяців тому +2

    I hope 🇫🇷 Sébastien Loeb would drive the full-season with M-Sport next year. 🤔

    • @alvar891
      @alvar891 8 місяців тому +1

      Not even the maestro can win rallies in a car that gives in mid rally. He was frustrated the last time in greece when he retired from the lead because of a belt slipping off. Ott tried a whole season and just the same unstable car. No motivation to fight for wins when there is a 50 50 chance the car will break down either.

  • @StreetComp
    @StreetComp 8 місяців тому

    It probably just comes down to a guess by each driver at which team they think can give them the best chance to win next year 🤔😀

  • @ThePaulz80
    @ThePaulz80 8 місяців тому +2

    Hate to see WRC in declined if Toyota keep winning every year like Mercs and RB. Hyundai need to provide better car for Tanak to challenge championship leader next season.

  • @mait1995
    @mait1995 8 місяців тому +2

    I HOPE that Tänak's exit does not mean end for M-Sport. The Cumbrian team is an underdog, WRC desperately needs. The problem is that for some reason they tend to hire crash prone drivers like Formaux, Loubet, Camilli (And Tänak when he was doing his baby steps.) If they're not going to get hands on a quality driver it's maybe game over.

    • @garrycrossan4068
      @garrycrossan4068 8 місяців тому +1

      hire crash prone drivers or design crash prone cars? Loeb and Breen are on the record as saying that the cause of many of their accidents was from over driving the car. Formaux, and Loubet the same. Tanak was able to push the car but when he did it broke. Take any of those drivers and put them in a Rally 2 car and they'll win. The puma has 3 wins under its belt, and only when other teams dropped the ball.

    • @Franko384
      @Franko384 8 місяців тому

      Ott himself stated that the margin for Error in the Ford Puma is very small. And Breen crashed a lot in the car. And when he went back to the Hyunday i20, he was imediatly back to his winning ways in Sweden. So it seems obvious that the Ford Puma is hard to drive on the edge. I really hope that M Sport is able to improve the car, because I would love to see them win more.

  • @tannerbates5142
    @tannerbates5142 8 місяців тому +4

    Disappointed Tanak is leaving Ford, especially to go back to Hyundai. In 2022 he bitched about the I20 at every event

  • @GinoFoto
    @GinoFoto 8 місяців тому

    Surprising, while understandable move from both sides.

  • @TundeEszlari
    @TundeEszlari 8 місяців тому

    King video.

  • @florian_montuzet
    @florian_montuzet 8 місяців тому +2

    I'm sad but happy at the same time.

  • @Danyi11
    @Danyi11 7 місяців тому

    We need more manufacturers in the WRC. 2.5 is just ridiculous

  • @rallyjokesracingleague6826
    @rallyjokesracingleague6826 8 місяців тому

    no wrc and tanak confirmation what are you talking about?

  • @mjk06
    @mjk06 8 місяців тому

    So I'm guessing it's Neuville, Tanak, Lappi and Suninen sharing the 3rd car. Sordo sounds like he's calling it a day.

  • @Toni__Ford_GR
    @Toni__Ford_GR 8 місяців тому +2

    From my opinion No because he needs more km with puma we all now how difficult car it is. But is his choice I hope finding his winning again with Hyundai. Bad managing from msport they need new team principal.

  • @mosca3289
    @mosca3289 8 місяців тому +1

    Jeeze!

  • @macheerou
    @macheerou 8 місяців тому +4

    Calm down folks who knows malcolm already signed rovanpera instead 😂

    • @Franko384
      @Franko384 8 місяців тому +1

      That would be the absolute gigachad move from Malcolm😂

    • @miguelbarrero5572
      @miguelbarrero5572 8 місяців тому

      Malcolm should give Oliver a chance

  • @bensonnjeru1739
    @bensonnjeru1739 8 місяців тому

    Good move to have Tanak back in his i20

  • @sleekddanny3863
    @sleekddanny3863 8 місяців тому

    O.T#8, has always been very competitive & a top notch WRC champ. The biggest qn. is, their compatibility with T.N#11 at Hyundai. You saw what happened in his 3 yrs at Hyundai..Team orders.. etc..Who will be Hyundai's lead driver? Remember the tension between the Seb's while in Citroen.. In Toyota between Seb & Ott..I guess his decision is heavily leaning towards the new mgt. team as opposed to vehicle reliability. I truly believe Malcolm's, experience & team- Ford Puma, have a bright promising future..twende kazi..🇰🇪

    • @taurtzz
      @taurtzz 8 місяців тому +1

      Your memory are making some silly things in your head. Control facts over again.

    • @sleekddanny3863
      @sleekddanny3863 8 місяців тому +1

      @@taurtzz Mr. Neurologist, explain yourself, as you fix my memory.

    • @taurtzz
      @taurtzz 8 місяців тому +1

      @@sleekddanny3863 1st of all control fact that Ogier and Tänak never been in Toyota as teammates.

    • @sleekddanny3863
      @sleekddanny3863 8 місяців тому

      @@taurtzz Very true, but the moment Ogier rejoined Toyota from Ford, Ott left. They have had tension until recently...Hard to keep two bulls at the same team Arena.

  • @philbaythorpe6347
    @philbaythorpe6347 8 місяців тому +1

    Remember, you aren't breaking an embargo if you say you aren't...

  • @bastieschenbach9814
    @bastieschenbach9814 8 місяців тому +2

    Whaaat 😱

  • @AsherSkylark
    @AsherSkylark 8 місяців тому +11

    I wish that Tanak will join *wink* *wink* "Subaru" 😂
    Let's hoping for a good season for him next year

    • @aaronbryan5095
      @aaronbryan5095 8 місяців тому +3

      Lmao, Subaru's return to WRC is still years away, if it will even actually happen at all.

  • @kah227
    @kah227 8 місяців тому

    Sami Pajari to Msport would be interesting.

  • @returning2race574
    @returning2race574 8 місяців тому +2

    How or where can I get a custom body kit for my Hyundai

    • @aaronbryan5095
      @aaronbryan5095 8 місяців тому

      Wtf

    • @AKK5I
      @AKK5I 8 місяців тому

      Your shitbox is not a rally car

    • @alanb9337
      @alanb9337 8 місяців тому

      Hayden Paddon's team does some body kit pieces for his 'N-hanced' label for i30N, i20N and KonaN.

  • @user-lk7yy3xk4h
    @user-lk7yy3xk4h 8 місяців тому +1

  • @johnd0e25
    @johnd0e25 8 місяців тому

    Understandable news, but it's looking bad for the WRC's future.

  • @rhysmeyers9396
    @rhysmeyers9396 8 місяців тому +1

    Hyundai apparently doesn't trust Neuville to lead the team after all

  • @rjung_ch
    @rjung_ch 8 місяців тому +3

    Seeing how many issues that Ott had with Ford, guess it's a good move for him.
    Too bad Teemu fell out 2 stages before the finish, Lappi on the first stage. They could have changed the outcome.
    Ott won as he could have 2 times more in this season already, so Ford lost big time.
    Hyundai can only win with Ott even more. And no more team preferences this time around.

  • @j.s.p
    @j.s.p 8 місяців тому +6

    He always switches teams & always stays with 1 title.

    • @MrLukazenko
      @MrLukazenko 8 місяців тому +5

      Biggest mistake he did, leaving Toyota. He could be 3 or 4 times champion

    • @YoutubeStoleMyNick
      @YoutubeStoleMyNick 8 місяців тому

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣@@MrLukazenko

  • @KS-tz9sg
    @KS-tz9sg 8 місяців тому +2

    It’s all about the money. I don’t think MSport can afford whatever Hyundai is offering to Tanak

    • @alvar891
      @alvar891 8 місяців тому +1

      Tänak has money. Rallying is not his only stream of money. Its just not the place to fight for the championship in. Retiring most of the time thru technical problems is frustrating.

    • @KS-tz9sg
      @KS-tz9sg 8 місяців тому

      @@alvar891 I disagree, if you lead a team you dictate the development of the car for your driving needs. WRC is pretty much a spec series in terms of downforce and horsepower and it's the geometry that makes all the difference, and driver input is key to that. At Hyundai it's inevitale he will end up driving 'Neuville's car'

  • @p.a.16motorsport27
    @p.a.16motorsport27 8 місяців тому +3

    Rip M-sport ⚰️

  • @davidkirk6249
    @davidkirk6249 8 місяців тому

    Time for Munster to step up !

  • @edisonpetter
    @edisonpetter 8 місяців тому +2

    M-Sport in deep s...

  • @alanb9337
    @alanb9337 8 місяців тому +1

    It was 2018 that M-Sport/ Ford last gained a title with Ogier. IMO M-Sport should restrict themselves to Rally2 as their top category as the internal combustion engine Fiesta has ended production. M-sport might concentrate on developing their next relevant Rally2 car depending on where the FIA rules are going.

  • @thomasssali2692
    @thomasssali2692 8 місяців тому +1

    Tanak needs a reliable car after an unpredictable season with Ford. Hyundai gives him just that.
    It’s not in him to play second fiddle to Thiery.

  • @AJ-kc9up
    @AJ-kc9up 8 місяців тому +1

    So the WRC is screwed!! Remember why Citroen left Rally1?

    • @CalinFR
      @CalinFR 8 місяців тому

      Why Citroen left?

    • @igormartyka7850
      @igormartyka7850 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@CalinFRBecause Ogier joined toyota.

  • @mhh7544
    @mhh7544 8 місяців тому +4

    Not going to work, mark my words . Is this legit ?

  • @PreceptorPoonus
    @PreceptorPoonus 8 місяців тому +1

    Fuuuuuuuck yes!!!!!!

  • @Tamizen
    @Tamizen 8 місяців тому +1

    well that sucks

  • @chetanrs
    @chetanrs 8 місяців тому +3

    I feel Tanak was faster in i20 than the Puma.

    • @alvar891
      @alvar891 8 місяців тому +1

      Can't wait to see what he does in the more matured i20. He only drove the one that was late in development. This years i20 is already much better and upgraded. The 3rd year car could be what is needed to challenge toyota.

  • @hannuainsalo6825
    @hannuainsalo6825 8 місяців тому +4

    This anti Hyundai and anti Thierry stand people have is so annoying. You can't have any reasonable discussion

    • @alvar891
      @alvar891 8 місяців тому +2

      Im not a fan of thierry but he is making the sport more interesting. Without him there would not be much left to watch. Hope he gets back into shape and fight for atleast the second overall. Hes had some bad luck too not always his fault he retires. Dont need Kalle to turn into ogier and win alone.

    • @Karincl7
      @Karincl7 8 місяців тому +1

      Just ignore social media and watch Thierry race, works for me

  • @l30S3UX
    @l30S3UX 8 місяців тому

    Can someone explain why Hyundai "belongs" to Thierry?
    Is he funding the team ?

    • @bett431
      @bett431 8 місяців тому +4

      Because everyone wants stories about a good guy and a bad guy, and everyone acts like Ott is the underdog hero while Thierry is the big bad evil of Hyundai, just because he s loyal and actually solves problems and fights instead of running away if the car doesnt work or if he doesnt like the manager, on top of being one of the very few drivers who can simply outperform Ott on Rallies.

    • @feline6758
      @feline6758 8 місяців тому +1

      Because he is the best Hyundai driver. Like Loeb for Citroen and Ogier for VW

  • @rafaeldorigan
    @rafaeldorigan 8 місяців тому

    Man, I’m from Brazil and my English isn’t prepared for this guy. So hard to understand kkkkk

  • @reboot1337
    @reboot1337 8 місяців тому

    we dont know how new team managment looks this team i mean Thierry been in that team for long time and never won a championship, ofc he is a good driver but well still no championship.

  • @jasonscherf7553
    @jasonscherf7553 8 місяців тому

    As a diehard Hyundai fan (I drive a vt turbo R-spec) I was crushed when Ott left the team last year. It was understandable but things are different this year. We desperately need 3 full time drivers to compete with Toyota for at least the constructors. I just hope management lets the drivers off their leashes, it would benefit the team immensely. I would also like to see Sordo do the short season and management at the same time we need his experience in both endeavors .

  • @Finduski
    @Finduski 8 місяців тому +1

    Lappi gonna probably give his spot. He's been crashing alot this year

    • @CalinFR
      @CalinFR 8 місяців тому +1

      He's been crashing from the top. At least in Mexico

  • @christopherowen2309
    @christopherowen2309 8 місяців тому +1

    Bad move OTT what about MSPORT Loyalty. You won’t win the drivers Championship at Hyundai?

  • @mehdibasses2633
    @mehdibasses2633 8 місяців тому +3

    Bring Andreas Mikkelsen in FORD TEAM, come on !!!!!!

  • @engin_tanik
    @engin_tanik 8 місяців тому +1

    With the dominancy of Neuville , Tanak will be always in shadow there. A risky operation. Hope he will be happy there

    • @AndreaP76
      @AndreaP76 8 місяців тому +1

      Lol. What dominancy, if in half the rallys they had to tell his teammates to slow down?

    • @explodingrabbit51
      @explodingrabbit51 8 місяців тому

      I feel like at this point it's clear Neuville's ship has sailed. Maybe it did all the way back at the end of 2019 and we didn't realize it then. But I think most would say he's closer to Evans as a #2 who can win rallies then a proper championship contender.

  • @RallyRallyMike
    @RallyRallyMike 8 місяців тому

    Should there be come an 4th car? 😀

  • @axellofgren7679
    @axellofgren7679 8 місяців тому +1

    I wonder if this opens a door for Solberg in M-Sport

  • @shinra2755
    @shinra2755 8 місяців тому +1

    Ouch. This is very bad news for M-Sport. I guess they only have themselves to blame. The car is a beauty, but it is very unreliable.

  • @davitavazneli3506
    @davitavazneli3506 8 місяців тому +1

    Tanak has never been as strong as he was in toyota. since he left it has been all but decline, hyundai wont give him any chances as they already ruined his championship last year,because thierry is their first driver and tanak would be only 2nd in the team.

  • @6387mbrown
    @6387mbrown 8 місяців тому +4

    How about Oliver in a Puma……

  • @fionnfitz64
    @fionnfitz64 8 місяців тому +2

    M-Sport need Solberg, Mikkelsen and Pajari before Toyota get him, even if that means rushing him into Rally1 early. Going to have to leave Fourmaux in Rally2

    • @alvar891
      @alvar891 8 місяців тому +3

      Would not give up on fourmaux so early. Malcolm has polished many great drivers out of young car wreckers. Ott and Evans for example were horrible in the beginning.

    • @fionnfitz64
      @fionnfitz64 8 місяців тому

      ​@@alvar891I agree, but it's still too early for him I feel

  • @macavenco
    @macavenco 8 місяців тому +2

    unbelievable from Ott!!!
    So he stays three (3!!) years in Hyundai, always complaining with the team (that last year was surreal), becomes almost irrelevant, goes to M-Sport (where he has almost as many victories as in Hyundai...!!!), complains, and after just one (1) year leaves to that same team he left, only he knows how.... at least a second year in M-Sport (since he gave three to Hyundai...) to try the title... and to trash Neuville's chances once again..... 😁

  • @droon1975
    @droon1975 8 місяців тому +1

    M-Sport options:O.Solberg,Mikelsen,Lappi.Not bad options.

    • @Franko384
      @Franko384 8 місяців тому +1

      Lappi is only an option, if Hyunday decides to only let him drive part time though.

  • @krs1jog144
    @krs1jog144 8 місяців тому +3

    Hoping for more car manufacturers too, wish him luck for next year! But hey...! i'm willing to join M-sport.🔜🔝🏁🚗 😲