To be honest I think this song is harder than Through The Fire and Flames. The solo at 5:11 is just ridiculously insane. TTF&F doesn't have a solo nearly this difficult.
+tkofxiii Devil went down to Georgia is harder that ttfaf and this song is way harder than both of them. It and some chaotrope song are the only things on console that haven't been fced I believe.
This is sadistic looking. I think it's cool that these songs make it to RB/GH but at the same time it also smacks of jumping the shark in terms of ridiculousness as well.
@xXxRoflCopterZxXx Those are trill lanes. They work like the purple slider notes in Guitar Hero; if you miss a note, you don't have to strum again to keep the combo going.
You, sir, are incredible lol. I've played this song about 20 times tonight trying to get through it, and the first 72% of the song is pretty easy...that's not a problem for me to get through. However, when you got through that solo where everything went straight to hell, you rocked it. Excellent job.
@Nubnut RB1's timing system was not designed for 16NPS streaks. OGaP may be harder to survive thanks to 26 NPS hammer-ons, but GG&HT is WAY harder to FC because of the timing system.
+GlenderPonyMusic I don't know, I'd say Good Mourning/Black Friday was harder overall. This song has a lot of breaks but GM/BF had no breaks at all; just ripping solos and fast strumming throughout, more of an endurance contest than this is. Then again I managed to Gold Star GM/BF and barely 5 starred this so I'm probably wrong haha.
Pretty much, yeah. It's just fast. Now dream theater... Well playing anything by dream theater is a challenge. Constant Motion, and now Metropolis Pt 1... There's some fun.
Also whoever at Harmonix decided to make that part from 1:09-1:12 a unison bonus overdrive over a 20+ NPS trill of death deserves asshat of the year award.
@Furiiiiouz Say what? The Rock Band 3 guitar chart for this song is a -lot- harder than the GH3 DLC chart. Just compare the solo at 5:10 and you'll see. The two charts aren't even vaguely similar there.
i love your comment. i was listening to Where Dragons Rule, and just loved it. i always loved that song. but that said, DF is a fast playing band and always will be, and that's why i love them. to me the song don't sound the same. when you have the guitar rocking out, how do you expect the drums to take the spotlight away? don't get me wrong i know it's the same beat for the drums now-a-days but he still rocks at it. they all have incredible stamina and that's what makes there song great.
@KurtisandJenny What does it matter if a song is impossible/near impossible to FC? A game isn't measured but how FC'able their hard songs are. Also, tons of songs have been called impossible to FC on GH, but have been FC'd later.
@Foxhound3857 This is one of those times where the famous Adam Savage quote is truly perfect. 'I reject your reality and substitute my own'. All right, I'll go along with this, what makes it so much harder?
@LostStorm17 That's how it works in the Guitar Hero 3 version; DragonForce songs in that game are SPECIFICALLY charted to reflect two solos being played at once. Even TtFaF had them. Look at the "What the..." and "Red Snake" parts if you're wondering what I mean.
@OxMuDvAyNexO Kind of a contradictory statement if you ask me. I'm just a little pissed because of two or three parts in the main solo. I failed with over-drive in about 2 seconds. Something new, you say? What, a cluster**** of notes? Yeah, I have never seen that before...
@SoulspiritSH Actually, he went to a competition and didn't even place. He's good but not the best anymore. Pretty sure gamingfreak has him beat with his Dark Caves of LOLNO FC, which in my opinion is the best FC ever. I don't even think a RB3 OGAP FC will top that.
@ITzJONOXATRON None of the engines have any problem"withstanding" any songs that the other can. The RB engine doesn't really have any "limits" as compared to guitar hero.
The star power at 2:34 I swear that thing is glitched out, I miss it every time, and I KNOW I hit it. I did that three times in a row. Great job though Ukog!
@KurtisandJenny ...I'm talking about the TtFaF version of GH Hell Jordan was called impossible to FC when GH 2 was released. Calling a song impossible is just wrong, there is no truly impossible song to FC (aside from maybe NTSC version of Trogdor, or Young Man Blues on drums as the hardware/game engine simply can't handle it).
@Raaatcher Accurate charting isn't worth shit as long as the song is fun. GH still charts tons of keyboard parts to guitar. Also, one chart doesn't make the rest of the charts bad.
@smokyprogg Way back, people said TTFAF would never be FC'd, but I always maintained that it would. I don't think anyone will ever FC this. It's just too harsh.
If you pause at 7:57 right before the video ends, his GUITAR leaderboard listing shows he is at #1 at the time. The 105 is just his band rank. Might want to pay attention before blasting him!
@BADRANG4EVER That part is the only part in the entire series on a standard chart (not custom/RBN), Guitar Hero or RB, that NO ONE has ever hit. And the song has been out over a month yet. What the Christ.
@oOMaGMaHOo Unless you have a crazy good ear, you have the sheet music, or you have the master tracks, then you can't really say they're overcharted. Infact I think HMX under charts sometimes, making notes that would usually be chords, just single gems (not that I'm complaining, I'm not a huge fan of huge chords).
I'm calling this now. Plenty of people reckoned TTFAF would never be FC'd, but I always thought someone would do it. They did, of course, and players have FC'd some mad shit since. But this, will never be FC'd. Utterly insane.
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I highly doubt that you were thinking that at 5:08 since it's like the easiest part of the song, why would he use overdrive at that point?
@LordRM are you serious? i might go try it with it on today so i don't have to use it at the beginning of the solo ^_^ either way i did not use it so this title is still wrong and i know a few other people that didn't such as wesleysnipes87 which was 1st place on it when it came out and is now still 10th place
What I want to know is how you hit those notes? Is there some calibration trick or something? I can't move my fingers that fast..this happens on almost every hard song like this. Like those 32s (I think they're in 32) tapping notes just after 1:00. How the hell do you hit those?
To all the people crying about the chart, I honestly think this is how the chart should have looked on GH3. Props to RB for not holding back and charting every "sound" and not using the same old tired patterns and trying something new for a change.
what I think is interesting is that the first time I saw this chart is when I bought it and played it on hard without no-fail on and I got 96%!!! seeing this makes me say F U harmonix, that solo at 5:12 is the hardest thing I´ve ever seen in a RB game!
If I use Starpower in the solo like in this video I might be able to pass this aswell. Gonna try it later today. The song is pretty fun, besides the solo, which is too hard for me (and I guess for most people it is, seeing UKOG can't even do it :P)
@Foxhound3857 On RB 1, true, the GGaHT strumming was literally impossible. However, OGaP isn't available on RB 1, or even RB 2. So there's no point in comparing it to that engine. Hell if you were to put OGaP on the RB 1 engine it literally would be impossible to pass. Also, it took 6 months for someone to FC the solo in CM (the longest time it's taken for a single HoPo section to be hit in RB). Where as 5 months since the release of this no one is close to hitting the beginning of the solo.
@LostStorm17 No, it's not. That's an accurate chart of how the guitars are really played in the actual song. The trills are that nuts because Li and Totman are doing dual-solos together in the song. Two guys soloing = twice the notes. That's why it's so insane.
@gotsmack50 I'm serious, point me to a part of the song that's over charted. Just because the solo is ridiculously fast, doesn't mean it's over charted.
+Btd Pokemon I play on expert, and I can get past Through The Fire And Flames, so I CAN hit notes but those two parts in this song are just way too much! Especially on a Rock Band guitar because the strum bat is unresponsive sometimes.
@Pascal266 Full song I doubt June. But Tech FC definitely. But hitting it all in one run will take either Danny/Gamo taking super steroids or years for anyone else lol.
@scarymarydied It's not the engine. It's the charting. Those solo trills and Bridge C are scary even on a GH3 engine. Think of how many people failed the red snake and that was about a second long.
@TheLoveWizardPSN Actually it's just hyper-accurately charted. That's not that far off from what Caprici Di Diablo's 3rd solo should've looked like but that was tremendously undercharted.
@Nubnut Hmm, well someone will hit that part at some point. This song WILL be FC'd eventually, I guarantee it. Now, can you point me to a video of someone passing TtFaF on Expert Pro Guitar WITHOUT using No Fail?
@TheDustBunnyKing Give it time, people said the same thing about TtFaF when GH 3 first came out. Ya it took a hell of a long time for anyone to FC it, but it happened.
@KurtisandJenny Still incorrect. This is implying that dragonforce is the only DLC out there. GH and RB can be VERY fun with DLC, but DLC is still fun. You don't have to get this song, there are TONS of other songs to pick from.
um lets see no i have a score on the leader boards and so does a few more people when i played this it was top 10 on leader boards doesn't no fail disable them?
I know Jp fc'ed rb chart of ttfatf which I believe no one ever thought would be done but hass anyone or will anyone ever fc this song or is it unfcable?
@KurtisandJenny Hey guess what, so is guitar hero. Both games have an almost equal number of inaccurately charted songs. Also, if all the rock band games are already over/under charted, why would one chart years after the first games release make you decide not to buy it, if the games were already so "terribly charted". Also, "any1" is not a word.
To be honest I think this song is harder than Through The Fire and Flames. The solo at 5:11 is just ridiculously insane. TTF&F doesn't have a solo nearly this difficult.
+RobloxRacingTV no shit sherlock
+RobloxRacingTV the devil went down to georgia. that's all.
+tkofxiii that song isnt on rock band
+tkofxiii
Devil went down to Georgia is harder that ttfaf and this song is way harder than both of them. It and some chaotrope song are the only things on console that haven't been fced I believe.
+copper4eva I believe Flames hasn't been FCed on Rock Band either
and 5 years later he fc's the solos
but nobody fc full song :\
suchakree laokom I don't think so pal
***** you can explain about dislike of vid??
he got dislike botted by some lowlife.
I could see why someone would want to dislike darkly videos, he has lot of haters.
I use to be 1 of them but i've said sorry and moved that behind me.
you sir are a beast. i thought i was good getting to 76% on this song but you passing it? damn dude
Aint you nathaniel b?
1:37 I'm dying because the fucking singer looks like a fish out of water having a spas attack like that.
Are you not allowed to license dragonforce songs if you don't overchart the hell out of them?
Ryder Eddy actually this chart is pretty much accurate
Spoodermen Produktionz kappa
5:13
THAT IS A FUCKING NECK SLIDE. Who charted that?
harmonix charted it
ofc it's shit
everything is so far away
This is sadistic looking. I think it's cool that these songs make it to RB/GH but at the same time it also smacks of jumping the shark in terms of ridiculousness as well.
Rock band is actually charted much better for this song, so guitar hero isn't an accurate depiction of this song.
but its playable
@xXxRoflCopterZxXx Those are trill lanes. They work like the purple slider notes in Guitar Hero; if you miss a note, you don't have to strum again to keep the combo going.
1:36 dude's having a seizure lmao
You, sir, are incredible lol.
I've played this song about 20 times tonight trying to get through it, and the first 72% of the song is pretty easy...that's not a problem for me to get through. However, when you got through that solo where everything went straight to hell, you rocked it.
Excellent job.
@Nubnut RB1's timing system was not designed for 16NPS streaks.
OGaP may be harder to survive thanks to 26 NPS hammer-ons, but GG&HT is WAY harder to FC because of the timing system.
The entire sequence of this song is utterly ridiculous.
Harmonix most have made this dlc for april fools day lol
+GlenderPonyMusic I don't know, I'd say Good Mourning/Black Friday was harder overall. This song has a lot of breaks but GM/BF had no breaks at all; just ripping solos and fast strumming throughout, more of an endurance contest than this is. Then again I managed to Gold Star GM/BF and barely 5 starred this so I'm probably wrong haha.
***** the only thing thats hard is the solo the rest is easy
Pretty much, yeah. It's just fast. Now dream theater... Well playing anything by dream theater is a challenge. Constant Motion, and now Metropolis Pt 1... There's some fun.
***** yeah
+James Matthews Chaotrope is still the most brutally difficult songs to play. Chiasm and Hourglass Paroxysm part 2. Have some fun with those :)
@c541tim
At 0:06 the double blue, overcharted. That's a small example of it.
Also whoever at Harmonix decided to make that part from 1:09-1:12 a unison bonus overdrive over a 20+ NPS trill of death deserves asshat of the year award.
Why does the video skip/cut at 0:20 ?
Talk about an overchart.
PLOT TWIST! This was actually very undercharted!
Leave it to Rock Band to make every song 1000X harder than it needs to be.
The Way It Ends is way easier on RB3 than GH3
but yeah i agree for Dragonforce songs LOL
You mean leave it to Guitar Hero 3.
i FCed it on GH3 but i have -5 on RB3
it's hard because of the engine but the chart is definitely EASY
Shizune Hakamichi Well Guitar hero fans say Rock band is too easy. Well this is what happens when u say its too easy for a long period of time.
Ichigo Kurosaki What? Rock Band has always been harder.
The song has finally been FC'ed
Tyler Larsen I wasn't talking about him
Darkly FC'ed it
that was in RB4 though, OGAP in RB3 has yet to be FC'd by him
LuigiNeku ;)
Addict fced rb3 darkly rb4
@Furiiiiouz Say what? The Rock Band 3 guitar chart for this song is a -lot- harder than the GH3 DLC chart. Just compare the solo at 5:10 and you'll see. The two charts aren't even vaguely similar there.
thats pretty sick, your boss for the 1st time and the first pass of yours, your awesome :)
i love your comment. i was listening to Where Dragons Rule, and just loved it. i always loved that song. but that said, DF is a fast playing band and always will be, and that's why i love them. to me the song don't sound the same. when you have the guitar rocking out, how do you expect the drums to take the spotlight away? don't get me wrong i know it's the same beat for the drums now-a-days but he still rocks at it. they all have incredible stamina and that's what makes there song great.
@KurtisandJenny What does it matter if a song is impossible/near impossible to FC? A game isn't measured but how FC'able their hard songs are. Also, tons of songs have been called impossible to FC on GH, but have been FC'd later.
now 8 years later and he is fc's BRUTAL panic attack first try
@Foxhound3857 This is one of those times where the famous Adam Savage quote is truly perfect. 'I reject your reality and substitute my own'.
All right, I'll go along with this, what makes it so much harder?
@LostStorm17 That's how it works in the Guitar Hero 3 version; DragonForce songs in that game are SPECIFICALLY charted to reflect two solos being played at once. Even TtFaF had them. Look at the "What the..." and "Red Snake" parts if you're wondering what I mean.
ukogmonkey is rockband's guitarherophenom
5:11 he should get lessons from megapengproductions lol
this is in the rock band engine, there is no hitting that
Sigma Waffle except megapeng did
Mezic proof
And now Darkly has gotten a straight-up FC
Nick Welch they edited out some of the parts in the solo. Made it very possible to fc now. Still very hard tho
@OxMuDvAyNexO Kind of a contradictory statement if you ask me. I'm just a little pissed because of two or three parts in the main solo. I failed with over-drive in about 2 seconds. Something new, you say? What, a cluster**** of notes? Yeah, I have never seen that before...
5:12 DUDE AMAZING you have perfected the sound of dragonforce live! :D
That is seriously thee coolest pumping craziest and most Intense sounding song I've ever heard,God I love Dragonforce.
@GuitarHeroCustomize I know, a lot of the crazy stuff is indeed fairly well charted.
You know a songs hard when UKOGmonkey PASSES it and its a freakin miracle.
@MyCoolboy17 The solo has been fced in practice by megapeng so I assume that he is able to get this fc.
@SoulspiritSH Actually, he went to a competition and didn't even place. He's good but not the best anymore. Pretty sure gamingfreak has him beat with his Dark Caves of LOLNO FC, which in my opinion is the best FC ever. I don't even think a RB3 OGAP FC will top that.
@ITzJONOXATRON None of the engines have any problem"withstanding" any songs that the other can. The RB engine doesn't really have any "limits" as compared to guitar hero.
The beginning solo is like the coolest part of the song.
The star power at 2:34 I swear that thing is glitched out, I miss it every time, and I KNOW I hit it. I did that three times in a row. Great job though Ukog!
@KurtisandJenny ...I'm talking about the TtFaF version of GH
Hell Jordan was called impossible to FC when GH 2 was released.
Calling a song impossible is just wrong, there is no truly impossible song to FC (aside from maybe NTSC version of Trogdor, or Young Man Blues on drums as the hardware/game engine simply can't handle it).
This should be your new goal to top the ttfaf on rb4 FC.
that's what he's going for
6 years later and he's 8 notes away from fcing it. You got this George
@Raaatcher Accurate charting isn't worth shit as long as the song is fun.
GH still charts tons of keyboard parts to guitar. Also, one chart doesn't make the rest of the charts bad.
@smokyprogg Way back, people said TTFAF would never be FC'd, but I always maintained that it would. I don't think anyone will ever FC this. It's just too harsh.
If you pause at 7:57 right before the video ends, his GUITAR leaderboard listing shows he is at #1 at the time. The 105 is just his band rank. Might want to pay attention before blasting him!
I know JLC, gh phenom and ss blind grew up but it would be nice to see them back on this game
I think it's safe to say that this will never be fc'd.
Edit: Nvm GHAddict112 got it.
Joseph Dowling along with chiasm and soulless 2
Joseph Dowling well it got fc'd like a week ago I think it only took 5 years though lol
Ralez but it got fced on rock band 4, but I think darkly will get it on rock band 3 soon
Spoodermen Produktionz Rockband 3's chart is different right?
Ralez I think not that much but the engine on rock band 3 is harder
@Foxhound3857 Wrong, he didn't do Bridge C (which includes the solo from 5:12-5:15 AKA the hardest part of the solo which no one has hit yet).
@BADRANG4EVER That part is the only part in the entire series on a standard chart (not custom/RBN), Guitar Hero or RB, that NO ONE has ever hit. And the song has been out over a month yet. What the Christ.
I don't blame you for missing so much. I can only play on hard for this song and I still suck at it.
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@oOMaGMaHOo Unless you have a crazy good ear, you have the sheet music, or you have the master tracks, then you can't really say they're overcharted. Infact I think HMX under charts sometimes, making notes that would usually be chords, just single gems (not that I'm complaining, I'm not a huge fan of huge chords).
@666superkitty it's to gain energy, or in GH terms a starpower phrase
@Foxhound3857 so your telling me that one person should play two different solos at the same time....makes sense
I'm calling this now. Plenty of people reckoned TTFAF would never be FC'd, but I always thought someone would do it. They did, of course, and players have FC'd some mad shit since. But this, will never be FC'd. Utterly insane.
I highly doubt that you were thinking that at 5:08 since it's like the easiest part of the song, why would he use overdrive at that point?
So... basically, from what I can tell, this is the exact same song as TTFAF only in a different key? What a talented band!
@LordRM are you serious? i might go try it with it on today so i don't have to use it at the beginning of the solo ^_^ either way i did not use it so this title is still wrong and i know a few other people that didn't such as wesleysnipes87 which was 1st place on it when it came out and is now still 10th place
@TDCstudios
The intro to this song is a fine example of overcharting, although this intro isn't an extreme case of it. It just shows.
What I want to know is how you hit those notes? Is there some calibration trick or something? I can't move my fingers that fast..this happens on almost every hard song like this. Like those 32s (I think they're in 32) tapping notes just after 1:00. How the hell do you hit those?
To all the people crying about the chart, I honestly think this is how the chart should have looked on GH3. Props to RB for not holding back and charting every "sound" and not using the same old tired patterns and trying something new for a change.
uh did anyone notice the video skip
probably done to avoid copyright.
RockandMetal645 true that
@jjjmanyo That's not the only part of the song I'm talking about.
what I think is interesting is that the first time I saw this chart is when I bought it and played it on hard without no-fail on and I got 96%!!! seeing this makes me say F U harmonix, that solo at 5:12 is the hardest thing I´ve ever seen in a RB game!
holy crap what was that red thingy at 5:50 ??? answer me please
Omg this was 6 years ago, and yet literally like 2 people have FC'd this...
Can you release a video of you FCing the Solo on Slowest speed so that we can actually judge if this is charted correctly?
If I use Starpower in the solo like in this video I might be able to pass this aswell. Gonna try it later today.
The song is pretty fun, besides the solo, which is too hard for me (and I guess for most people it is, seeing UKOG can't even do it :P)
This is beyond godly...I wouldn't stand a chance
@Foxhound3857 On RB 1, true, the GGaHT strumming was literally impossible.
However, OGaP isn't available on RB 1, or even RB 2. So there's no point in comparing it to that engine.
Hell if you were to put OGaP on the RB 1 engine it literally would be impossible to pass.
Also, it took 6 months for someone to FC the solo in CM (the longest time it's taken for a single HoPo section to be hit in RB). Where as 5 months since the release of this no one is close to hitting the beginning of the solo.
@LostStorm17 No, it's not. That's an accurate chart of how the guitars are really played in the actual song. The trills are that nuts because Li and Totman are doing dual-solos together in the song. Two guys soloing = twice the notes. That's why it's so insane.
@gotsmack50 I'm serious, point me to a part of the song that's over charted. Just because the solo is ridiculously fast, doesn't mean it's over charted.
@XxBLiiNDxX1107 He Co-op FC'ed a version of this with jameslikecoulter a while back.
5:12 Fuck off! Are you kidding me? Screw it, was gonna buy this song for Rock Band 4 but I don't think I want to now, that's just ridiculous lol
And 5:20 can get fucked too, I'd fail this song before it even starts
SuperDooperHax and you can barely hit notes in the game
+Btd Pokemon I play on expert, and I can get past Through The Fire And Flames, so I CAN hit notes but those two parts in this song are just way too much! Especially on a Rock Band guitar because the strum bat is unresponsive sometimes.
+SuperDooperHax *strum bar
Get good kid
was the charter for this super high when he did this and just like clicked all the buttons that looked pretty?
@Pascal266 Full song I doubt June. But Tech FC definitely. But hitting it all in one run will take either Danny/Gamo taking super steroids or years for anyone else lol.
@yumamas I've gotten really close to both trills.
@scarymarydied It's not the engine. It's the charting. Those solo trills and Bridge C are scary even on a GH3 engine. Think of how many people failed the red snake and that was about a second long.
@TheLoveWizardPSN Actually it's just hyper-accurately charted. That's not that far off from what Caprici Di Diablo's 3rd solo should've looked like but that was tremendously undercharted.
@KurtisandJenny Name songs on RB that are impossible to FC. Hint: there aren't any.
@Nubnut Hmm, well someone will hit that part at some point. This song WILL be FC'd eventually, I guarantee it.
Now, can you point me to a video of someone passing TtFaF on Expert Pro Guitar WITHOUT using No Fail?
@TDCstudios they do it with octaves all the time
That solo is no joke on this version god damn...
I think the huge issue here is the timing window, it's so tiny compared to GH3's, which was gargantuan. . _.
Dragonforce is killer for you're fingers, but you did an awesome job!
@jjjmanyo Still, it's one thing to hear from someone that something is charted right and another to SEE that it is definitely charted right.
Damnit megapeng where are you when we need you?
UKOG almost failing?!?! THIS MUST BE A DREAM! THIS WORLD ISNT REAL!!
If this song ever gets FC'd I want a video of the screen, the guitar/person and the buttons because frankly that shit looks impossible.
@TheDustBunnyKing Give it time, people said the same thing about TtFaF when GH 3 first came out. Ya it took a hell of a long time for anyone to FC it, but it happened.
@MrAbomasnow To be fair, Aesthetics of Hate was a glitch that got fixed in RB3. Hell, it's even fixed in Wii RB2. lol
@UKOGmonkey ggamerman sightread passed it on his stream
@mrheck94 It seems like Harmonix overcharted it just for that reason!
@KurtisandJenny Still incorrect. This is implying that dragonforce is the only DLC out there. GH and RB can be VERY fun with DLC, but DLC is still fun. You don't have to get this song, there are TONS of other songs to pick from.
um lets see no i have a score on the leader boards and so does a few more people when i played this it was top 10 on leader boards doesn't no fail disable them?
@MyCoolboy17 TTFAF isn't that hard to pass anyway; the outro is really the only major fail point and that can easily just be OD flailed.
I know Jp fc'ed rb chart of ttfatf which I believe no one ever thought would be done but hass anyone or will anyone ever fc this song or is it unfcable?
@Sparky5856 Hey that's not fair...preb doesn't overchart, he just makes songs with inhumanly fast bullshit sections on purpose.
What kind of guitar controller do you use?
@TheDustBunnyKing Cool story bro. Good thing that has nothing to do with whether it's impossible to FC. Not to mention we were talking about guitar.
@KurtisandJenny Hey guess what, so is guitar hero. Both games have an almost equal number of inaccurately charted songs. Also, if all the rock band games are already over/under charted, why would one chart years after the first games release make you decide not to buy it, if the games were already so "terribly charted". Also, "any1" is not a word.