Just to get this corrected. The original deal in 1878 - The Sulu sultan leases Sabah to the British North Borneo Co., represented by Englishman Alfred Dent and German Gustavus Baron de Overbeck in a deed of pajak (“lease”) in which the company would pay 5,300 Mexican gold pieces a year to the Kingdom of Sulu. Instead it was converted to ringgit. This is one of the reasons why the rent ballooned to 14.9 billion dollars in todays money. I hope this helps you all see the truth.
The deception, manipulation were undeniably conspicuous and the international court had seen it all. The rightful owners deserve equitable compensation. To Malaysia, Ninoy Aquino has long been gone, give to the heirs due them.
British is the one how need to fix this to clear everything. If you are renting you dont have the right to give it away even what your country say. And they are afraid if this is proven they have to release the sutan army they only there to protec there land.
Your much far knowledgeable to the people who interview,no offense the people you interview really knows nothing at all,why did you interview this kind of people
The Malaysian government has been secretly (they do not want this to be known to people of Malaysia for obvious reasons) recognizing the contract as evident by their payments from 1963 until 2013. They took the opportunity to cease payment citing the Tanduo incident without realizing the consequences. Now they are waking up from their nightmare.
Exactly. Now they wish they were not that arrogant back then to ignore the Sulu Sultanate and neglect their duties during the arbitrary proceeding by the international court. 🖒
para silang ginisa sa sarili nilang mantika 😄 🤣 they are really talking nonsense talaga. Malaysia was born in 1963. while ang sultan ng sulo napasakamay na nya ang sabah noong 17century. nang nereward ng Bruni sa kanila.
Acceptance is the key. It hurts but as a Filipino Citizen all i can say is for how MANY years your country benefited Sabah? We are happy that finally we claimed it. Philippines are very proud...
That's right. There was even come to a point that when frmr pres.FEM tried to talk to the former prime minister of Malaysia then but was rejected and insisted that Sabah is theirs. That brought to a point frmr pres.FEM assembled an elite tausug warrior soldiers and trained in Corregidor Is. under col. martelino, to take Sabah by force. But a traitor( u know who it is) mentioned to the Malaysian prime minister about the mission that's why it was aborted. The traitor was given a Malaysian citizenship for giving the said information. But that's the history then. Now the real issue is that Sabah is owned by the sultanate of sulu. It was given to the sultan by the sultan of Brunei as a gift for helping them against the pirates that tried to invade Brunei long time ago with documents now with heirs of the sultan. So Malaysia has no claim at all and for sure they will lose this case!
Thanks to the Malaysian government For not paying your rentals. In 2013.. You have opened a history that has been closed for a long time. And because of that the world recognizes who are the real owners and who are the claimants
COPIED COMMENTS😂 Mr. English adopted a son, Abdul. Mr. English lease a land from Sultan. When Abdul debut, he was gifted by Mr. English the land he leased from Sultan. Mr. English told Abdul to pay the rent every year. Abdul love the land and started using all the resources there. But Sultan wants to stop the lease and get the land back. Abdul refused. Sultan sent his men to get the land but Abdul killed them. Now Abdul stopped the rent thinking the land is his because it was given by his dad. Now Sultan ask help from a police. The police was convinced that the land belongs to Sultan. And so the police said to Abdul, I am seizing your property as partial payment for your debts and compensation for stealing the resources of the land your father borrowed. Not only that, you destroyed the environment and you violated human rights in that land. As a penalty and compensation you are to pay Sultan $14.9b. To incur additional 10% if not paid within a year and the succeeding years and will stop until fully paid. Shocked Abdul panicked and blaming his father for giving him a problem. Nyay.
The Malaysian government paying this for so long a time shows that the real owners of Sabah are the Sultans of Sulu. The problem arises that the Malaysian government don't wish to cede it are basically economical in nature. Ceding Sabah will reduce the income of Malaysia by 35% to 40% because of the Petronas facilities located there. People who comment here were not born yet during such time and do not hold any documents of claims. They saying that Malaysia owns Sabah should provide proof of claims. This is very clear in all phases in claims. Unfortunately, with all the consistent payments of Malaysia to the Sultans there are clear records of claims. So let us not muddle facts. For the record since 1970's the Philippines are in dispute of these islands and Philippines have had so many attempts to reclaim this Sabah through force. Now the Philippines used the legal way and Malaysia lost because they had NO documents to prove their claims. Most Malaysians may not even know that there are so many people who live in Sabah comes from the different part of the Philippines since before. And they go there freely without passports or otherwise and only use the permission from the Sultan of Sulu. Let the facts speaks for itself rather than say matters that many do not seem to understand.
The International Tribunal court already spoken and give the rights to the heirs of the Sultanate of Sulu !!! This is victorious for the heirs of The Sultanate of Sulu !!! From the Philippines 🇵🇭 !!!
The Heirs of SULU just Wanted to involve the Philipines government regarding the dispute to COLLECT MORE MONEY FOR THEMSELVES. The heirs of sultan dont have the military power to push their rights. 5000 ringgit or 70,000 pesos they get from the rent is nothing compared to the billions of money generated by the malaysian government by getting its resources like oil. Sultan heirs want more money, so they tried to invade sabah. If the 14.9 billion dollars award to sultan Heirs by the arbitral ruling doesnt benefit the Filipino people and only exclusive to the heir of the sultan. . then its not worth the bloodshed. Let the sultan fight their own fight and not involve the entire Philippines government...!!
@@DuterteBars Princess Jacel Kiram address this already in an interview stating according to her that … since Sulu is part of the Philippines it’s within the Philippines so … this win is for the entire country ! now … I think that all of us is just waiting what Malacañgang Palace have to say because … at this point … (I think) that they still not given any sides about this important matters.
@@DuterteBars People of Sabah, you are now directed to get your Philippine passports. Malaysians, kindly bring your passports upon entering Sabah, Philippines. 💖 Thank you. 🖒 It's More Fun in the Philippines with Sabah! ⛱😆🖒 Malaysian people, relax. Blame your Government. They lied to you. I pity you. Even them, they now know LAWFULLY they have to return the land they were previously renting. Your ENTIRE ANNUAL NATIONAL BUDGET is in jeopardy if they don't. You know what "FREEZING" of "MALAYSIAN GOVERNMENT ASSETS" around the world will do to Malaysia.
@@dds4911 no, the territory belongs to the Philippines but the award according to arbitral ruling, the $14.9 billion with 10℅ interest per annum belongs to the "heir of the sultan" That is very specific. It is not our battle. Just pawns. The poor pays with blood. Also remember that the invasion of the Sultan troops is carefully planned for the very specific reason "to force malaysia". To " breach the contract" by not paying the rent since 2013. Therefore, for obvious reasons. They are after the money. the 5000 Ringgit turned into $14.9 billion very very quick. This is not our battle.
@@DuterteBars That's wrong, the PH gov't should take all the $14.9 B because the legal rights were given to the PH gov't during the time of Pres. Macapagal in the '60s. But then again, the PH gov't should give parts of it to the 8 descendants of the Sultan of Sulu as mandated by the PH constitution.
Welcome to SABAH, PHILIPPINES . . . by the way . . . CONGRATULATIONS TO THE FAMILY OF THE SULTANATE OF SULU AND ALL THE TAUSUGS . . . what a great victory . . . !!!
6:14 What do you think is the better move of Malaysia is to pay the 14 billion to the heirs of the royal family of the Sultanate of Sulu and surrender Sabah (North Borneo) and to be part of the sovereignity the Republic of the Philippines. Malaysia benefited so much over Sabah for the 5,000 Ringgit annually from 1961 to 2013. I think it's time for them to return what is not theirs in the first place
What is strange is that while the oil industry of Sabah contributes 20% to the Malaysian GDP, only 5,300 ringgit is allocated as rental to the actual owners of Sabah -- the Sultanate of Sulu. The $14 billion partial compensation is obviously not enough.
Only 5,300 ringgit but it was originally a 5,000 Mexican gold before. Malaysia is not just voiding the contract but even abusing several times for almost 6 decades without giving fair rentals to the Sultanate. Sad to say, PNoy administration didn't help the 200 Tausog warriors who tried to live and occupy Sabah in 2013. I guess, PNOy received compensation from those conflict.
now the world knows.. our brothers who died claiming sabah did not die in vain...they are heroes in the eyes of filipinos.. sabah issue has awaken the nationalism of filipinos... so does the WPS.
@@dellcruz2818 Yeah they did not die in vain because the Justice is now serve and I hope Sabah will be back to the Philippines and help the Sultanate of Sulu descendants to rehabilitate Sabah and our Countrymen their who abused, maltreated, ignored by Malaysian Authorities and its time they will be on ruins
Not really language stuff but this is just too good not to share. Due to the Lahad Datu stand off in 2013 (i.e. when the forces of the Sultanate went to Sabah to reclaim it) Malaysia cease the payments for the lease of Sabah to the Heirs of the Sultanate of Sulu. Take note, their government itself was paying rent. In March, the French arbitration court favored the Heirs of the Sultanate of Sulu and ordered Malaysia to pay them a whopping billion USD in relation to the lease of Sabah. Malaysia ignored this. Just recently, Luxembourg ordered the seizure of two susidiaries of the Malaysian state owned Petronas worth $ 2 Billion as part of the execution of the arbitral award. Malaysia's parliament is in chaos because not only their global assets are at risk but also because they are about to lose Sabah. Jeff the french court ordered the malaysian government to pay 14 billion USD to the sultanate of sulu. malaysian court doesn't recognize it, so their assets such petronas got seized. if they will still not pay it, all of their assets will be seized to as part of execution. so yes, malaysian economy will collapse and the country will be bankrupted if they will still not follow the order
“Malaysia needs to find out if the Sultanate of Sulu were eligible to sign the treaty 150 years ago.” Such a strong resolution to this issue. Even the Malaysian government rejects the petition because they know they have low chance of winning. Pinaupa na nga, gusto pa maging kanila.
Our claim is mainly based on the following propositions: that Overbeck and Dent, not being sovereign entities nor representing sovereign entities, could not and did not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that on the basis of authoritative British and Spanish documents, the British North Borneo Company, a private trading concern to whom Dent transferred his rights, did not and could not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that their rights were as those indicated in the basic contract, namely, that of a lessee and a mere delegate; that in accordance with established precedents in International Law, the assertion of sovereign rights by the British Crown in 1946, in complete disregard of the contract of 1878 and their solemn commitments, did not and cannot produce legal results in the form of a new tide. Jovito Salonga
@@dannybarcenas9701 what do you mean by the word "Our"? Our as Filipino or are you part of Sulu? There is a possibility that it will lead to that eventually.
The lease contract was for 5,300 Mexican gold per year. Malaysia converted the payment to ringgit. But the international court corrected that mistake by Malaysia and hence the reason for the astronomical bill ($15B) that Malaysia has to settle now. Malaysia better pay fast since the interest is 10% p.a.
I think the $14.9 Billion is not even enough indemnity to Filipino Muslim brothers who lost their lives in claiming Sabah since it is really their own, not to mention the benefits that Malaysia is reaping from the bounty of the land they are renting which they are actually grabbing.
Simple as that. Sulu Sultanate leased it to Baron Overbeck, then Overbeck transfered lease to Alfred Dent, then Dent transferred lease to British North Borneo, was then turned over to the British Crown (strongly objected by F.B. Harrison - US Gov. General in the Phil) then was included in the formed Independent State of Malaya Federation. It is still a Contract Lease from Sultanate of Sulu transferring hands
Congratulations Malaysia! You opened the pandora box when you stopped paying rents to our Tausug brothers and sisters (i.e. Sultanate of Sulu). To make things worse for you, we just elected a compassionate and hands-on President that would represent the Kiram family to their claim. Why? Because the Kiram family are FILIPINOS and the duty of the President of the Republic of the Philippines is to make sure that every Filipino is protected from injustice. What you did to the Kiram family is injustice. You bunch of liars. You even sent your terrorists in our southern provinces. You even funded ISIS-inspired terrorists cell to destabilize our southern territories. You will reap what you sow. By the way, your allies the Cojuangco-Aquino family are not powerful anymore. They are now even shunned by the majority of the Filipinos for selling our island nation to the communists, oligarchs and to you Malaysians! They are now suffering the karma of all their ill deeds. All Filipinos including the members of the Sultanate of Sulu know all your crimes!
I firmly believe....You speak the truth, Soft Lofi, about what's going on this crucial issue. In addition, Malaysia have not paid the Sultanate of Sulu clans of their rent since 2013. Meaning, if you are renting an apartment and have not paid the Landlord or the owner for 10 long years, it's time for you to vacate the property since then, or the owner will ask you to leave his or her property ASAP. All I can say is--The Sultanate of Sulu, under the Philippine Government, owns the property and the rightful owner of the Property, which in turn will be entitled that SABAH now should be given back to the Philippines. Welcome back, SABAH. You will be in good hands with with your rightful owner, the Philippines, under our new President Ferdinand "Bong-Bong" Marcos, Jr. and Vice President Inday Sara Duterte.
Only God can tell on when will Philippines restore it's borders. I'm a Filipino and very happy to know that Sabah is legally owned by Sulu, and part of Philippines archipelago. But do not start making enemies with Malaysian people because they are still our ASEAN Family. Let Sulu, Ph gov and ML gov to have a peaceful solution on this. Because war is the least thing we want right now.
How can you claim that Amount which not belong to your property..its your Brother's inlaw its against the Law of inheritance..Not belong to Sultan of Sulu .its An Estate of North - Borneo Sultan ( Sabah where His Palace remains herein Sabah which still Dormant ,Uninhabited..
Well if you really a land graber you will do everything. This is very simple Sabah is already in the possesion of the sultanate of Solu since 16th century and just leased on late 18th century by british owned company, now Malaysia was just established on 1968. This means that the agreement already exists before Malaysia was established. Therefore it belongs to the Philipines. Whose to blame are the british they turn over the land not to the owner..
In the words of the British side... British Acting Consul-General in Labuan, Mr. Treacher: "The Sultan of Brunei's territory extends, at the utmost, only to the West side of Malludu Bay, though formerly the Brunei kingdom extended as far as Cape Kaniungan, on the east coast, in latitude 1degree north. The remaining territory mentioned in the grants is actually under Sulu rule, and occupied by Sulu Chiefs, and it was only because the districts were mentioned in the original American grants that they are again included, and Mr. Overbeck will now have to make a separate agreement with the Sultan of Sulu for them". Note here: Lord Salisbury Foreign secretary on North Borneo In September 1878, Count de Bylandt, the Dutch Minister in London, handed a note to the Permanent Under Secretary of the Foreign Office, Sir Julian Pauncefote, setting forth the legal rights of The Netherlands~~. Pressed fürther by Count de Bylandt with respect to the request for a Royal Charter by Dent and Overbeck and as to Britain's intentions concerning north-east Borneo, the British Foreign Secretary, Lord Salisbury, replied that his Government respected the rights of the Sultans of Sulu and Brunei and did not intend to do anything in derogation of those rights. Lord Salisbury added: "Probably, even if our response to Messrs. Dent and Overbeck was favourable, Her Majesty's Government would not go fürther than was justified by the precedents of Sir James Brooke at Sarawak, or of those chartered commercial companies which in former times it had been the policy of this country to establish in various parts of the world without any aim of territorial acquisition. CLEAR STATEMENT IS MADE IN UNAMBIGUOUS TERMS: "The object of Her Majesty's Government was not to set up any dominion, or to enter upon controversy with respect to territorial claims, but simply, if we saw an opportunity, to promote the development of the resources of the country under discussion"~ THERE WAS NO INTENT TO TAKE CONTROL OR RULE OVER LANDS ONLY TO DEVELOP LAND! FUTHERE MORE: In any event, the Netherlands Governrnent was not unduly concerned by the BNBC company's activities in North Borneo since, as the Dutch Colonial Minister noted in reply to an enquiry raised by the Parliament in 1880, this was "simply a question of the establishment of a private Company"(By the British). Moreover, the Minister felt that the Dutch interests had not been affected by the grants given by Brunei and Sulu (grants to develop the land not to buy or control or rule over them!) THE BNBC OWN CHARTER STATES AS FOLLOWING: The BNBC's Charter stipulated a policy of respect of the local customs and internal affairs. Historical studies of the BNBC's administration confirm that the Residents were carefùl not to interfere in the life of the indigenous populations. Notably, judicial administration over the natives was exercised by their own chiefs and headmen and carried out by the village courts in accordance with local customs. Similarly, the collection of taxes was carried out by local chiefs and other native collectors. In any event, even if the BNBC had wanted to carry out a different strategy, it lacked both the staff and the financial resources to administer properly such a vast and diverse expanse of land5'. - the charter states the judicial administration of civilians was in the hands of the local rulers not the BNBC, only the real rulers have right to decide judicial matters and did not delegate them to the BNBC (the BNBC was there to develop land not to rule and make judgments) malaysia have no legal ground to stand on even her queen majesty clears states through her foreign secretary of north borneo at the time "The object of Her Majesty's Government was not to set up any dominion, or to enter upon controversy with respect to territorialclaims, but simply, if we saw an opportunity, to promote the development of the resources of the country under discussion" therefore the grants given by the sulu sultanate are leases and even if they were not (which they were not) the queen did not want any of her representative or private and commercial charters GAINING ONWERSHIP DOMINION OR RULE OVER ANY TERRITORIAL CLAIMS IN THE AREA!!! FOR BNBC TO GO AGAINST THEIR QUEEN WOULD MEAN THEIR CHARTERS AND LICENSES REVOKED.... thus is was always a lease...
Because of former PM Najib's mistake of not paying the 1878 lease aggrement since 2013 to the heirs of the Sultan of Sulu, the debt of Malaysia (interest) to the heirs of Sultan of Sulu is now reaching billions and soon if Malaysia still refuse to pay more of its international assets will be seized. And the worst to come, sooner its debt will be equal to or greater than its annual national budget...
Sabah belongs to Sabahan but a part of Malaysia. I m from KL, I get ur frustration but in all fairness, if they don't do that, then the quality of life of Sabahan will drop as many people from semenanjung will take over. But now many not la but
@@BejedHebat Sabah belongs to the Philippines and people of Sabah are not Malaysians. The fact that a Malaysian needs a work permit to work in Sabah just tells you that the Malaysian government knows that Sabah does not belong to Malaysia. Sabahans are Filipinos!
@@mytaroboy I guess that is the difference. U don't actually care what people of Sabah want. Sabah has its immigration to safeguard their interest. Filipinos also can't enter legally into Sabah without a passport. Hence, ur argument. If Sabah were to secede out of Malaysia, trust me, they won't join the Philippines. They will want to be an independent state or form a united Borneo. However, if that were to happen, it would be the right of the Sabahan people.
This is a commercial transaction and not a state function, a lease contract between the sultanate of sulu and the British company. The Sultanate of sulu did not give up its rights, it has and it still belongs to the heirs of the sultanate of sulu and they have been trying to reclaim sabah since the 1960s when sabah was included in the territorial boundaries of Malaysia in 1963 when Malaysia gained its independence. There was an existing contract, it was honored by both parties since the beginning and it was continued on until it was breached in 2013. The evidences are very solid and clear. The annual 5300 ringgit rent from the original 5000 Mexican gold was an unjustifiable amount for renting how many hundreds if not thousands of square kilometers of land that was why the back pay when computed ballooned to USD14.9B because the value of sabah appreciated over time, this was also taken into consideration.
This Singaporean guy in the interview seems do not understand the word "Appreciate". These people look down Filipinos like we are idiots. Typical Singaporean.
"Our claim is mainly based on the following propositions: that Overbeck and Dent, not being sovereign entities nor representing sovereign entities, could not and did not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that on the basis of authoritative British and Spanish documents, the British North Borneo Company, a private trading concern to whom Dent transferred his rights, did not and could not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that their rights were as those indicated in the basic contract, namely, that of a lessee and a mere delegate; that in accordance with established precedents in International Law, the assertion of sovereign rights by the British Crown in 1946, in complete disregard of the contract of 1878 and their solemn commitments, did not and cannot produce legal results in the form of a new tide." Senator Jovito Salonga
Annual rent was 5,000 mexican gold per original contract. It was never Malaysian Ringgit. The arbitral ruling also considered the income forgone starting from the date of default whuch is 2013.
@Hope Lope I dont have the land title but ask copy to the Sultanate of Sulu. Malaysia can only choose between giving the assets to the sultanate of sulu or bring back the sabah to them. The answer should not be none.
@Hope Lope whatever you say. You’re still land grabber and is not right. Sabah is Philippines and there are proof unlike your so cold opinion. Also, stay order is just a stay order while the court revisits the case. Ultimately, Sabah is still under PH sovereignty because heirs of Sultan already gave the rights to the republic of the Philippines over Sabah.
All due respect to your atty.guest, you can never invalidate the rights of the sultanate of sulu in entering a lease agreement with the british company where the lease amount of 5k mexican dollars originated. Second, the recent ruling of the arbitral court solidified the authenticity of this lease agreement as a result of the heirs propietary claim. Well Malaysia should watch out once the Philippine govt will pusrue its sovereign claim over Sabah since in the 1960s the siltanate has ceeded its rights to the republic of the Philippines.
This Sabahan representative were questiong herself why the Sultanate of Sulu became so powerful and the court decission is in favor to them as if she forgot that they are the ruler of that land a "Sultan" the owner and the ruler of the land. This Sabahan were just squatting to that land to the point that they already forgot whose the owner of that land. To the point that they established their right without the permission of the rightful owner of the land. They embeded the lies in their mind that Sabah belongs to them. So who's the Land grabber (Malaysia) here? For those Sabahan that don't want to be a subject of the Philippine rule just incase Sabah will be ceded back to the Philippines, a simple advise. Pack your bags and leave of Sabah.
Mga ingrata at ingrato. Who's the poor now? Not being boastful, but these Sabah people keep telling that they dont want to be Filipino because Filipinos are poor. Who's the poor now? I think to those Sabahan accept your original identity or You can also apply dual citizenship. Why not. Philippine President also have its plan to Sabah since PFEM.
Mga ingrata at ingrato. Whose the poor now? Not being boastful, but these Sabah people keep telling that they dont want to be Filipino because Filipinos are poor. Whose the poor now? I think to those Sabahan accept your original identity or You can also apply dual citizenship. Why not. Philippine President also have its plan to Sabah since PFEM.
Malaysia abandoned his case and its in default. Whatever defects of jurisdiction should have been raised by Malaysia at the earliest opportunity and by its silence, was in default. It cannot even stay the arbitration order because it has abandoned its case. The argument that infringed Malaysian sovereignty is misplaced because that is originally a private contract of lease between parties that can be legally enforced without infringing countries sovereignty. The decision is correct.
'Lease in perpetuity until the sun or moon do not rise until end of time" is the contract to be able to use Sabah. Perpetual Lease ≠ Grant or Cede. Malaysia can only claim permanent lease as long as they pay however, Pajakkan Forever is no longer Forever since Malaysia breached the Perpetual Lease in 2013. Any Lease of Contract broken means that the property should be duly returned in favor of the owner, The Sultan of Brunei. Malaysia keeps on twisting this definition to justify a squatting renter since 2013 claim the property for herself Going back to the French Case, they have awarded the $14.9 Billion award, the French court agreed with the Merit of the Word "Pajakkan" as a Lease and since you have broken the condition of Lease since 1939 North Borneo Macaskie decision, The French Court decided that any Organic gains of the Property (This is exclusive of the Sabah Land Claim itself) amounts to $14.9 Billion from 1939 to this day incurring 10% penalty for not paying in good faith
*they stopped payment.... they defaulted and forfeited the old agreement, so the owner has the right to raise the the rent* .... *_SINCE 2013 MALAYSIA OWE THE OWNERS $14B FOR THE RENT AT PRESSENT REAL ESTATE VALUES OF THE WHOLE PROPERTY PLUS FINES AND TAXES AND THE CORRECTED ILLEGAL AND LIABLE CONVERSION OF MALAYSIA OF 5300 MEXICAN GOLD TO 5300 ringit... can be considered VERY CHEAP!!!! TAKE IT OR LEAVE_* !!!
FYI "Our claim is mainly based on the following propositions: that Overbeck and Dent, not being sovereign entities nor representing sovereign entities, could not and did not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that on the basis of authoritative British and Spanish documents, the British North Borneo Company, a private trading concern to whom Dent transferred his rights, did not and could not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that their rights were as those indicated in the basic contract, namely, that of a lessee and a mere delegate; that in accordance with established precedents in International Law, the assertion of sovereign rights by the British Crown in 1946, in complete disregard of the contract of 1878 and their solemn commitments, did not and cannot produce legal results in the form of a new tide." Jovito Salonga
COPIED COMMENTS😂 Mr. English adopted a son, Abdul. Mr. English lease a land from Sultan. When Abdul debut, he was gifted by Mr. English the land he leased from Sultan. Mr. English told Abdul to pay the rent every year. Abdul love the land and started using all the resources there. But Sultan wants to stop the lease and get the land back. Abdul refused. Sultan sent his men to get the land but Abdul killed them. Now Abdul stopped the rent thinking the land is his because it was given by his dad. Now Sultan ask help from a police. The police was convinced that the land belongs to Sultan. And so the police said to Abdul, I am seizing your property as partial payment for your debts and compensation for stealing the resources of the land your father borrowed. Not only that, you destroyed the environment and you violated human rights in that land. As a penalty and compensation you are to pay Sultan $14.9b. To incur additional 10% if not paid within a year and the succeeding years and will stop until fully paid. Shocked Abdul panicked and blaming his father for giving him a problem. Nyay.
That Roger Lin said Malaysia is paying the amount to completely own SABAH. No, you are not correct, you have to check the contract again between The old British East India Company and the Sultanate of Sulu.
I think Brunei should also intervine and help the Philippines enforce the claims, because they are the orginal owner of the land, after gifting the land to the Sultan of Sulu as sign of friendship, helping them quelling the rebellion in 1663.
This is plain and simple problem between a tenant and landowner. Tenant stops paying rent, landowner push to claim what it is owed to them. That's why the arbitral court sided with them coz they have all the evidence(contracts, receipt etc). Don't need to expound more coz it's self explanatory for all people with a sound mind Filipinos and Malaysians alike.
Sabah is part of the Philippine constitution, the Sultanate of Sulu owns Sabah, it was leased only to Malaysia not sold. Now, the heirs of the Sultanate of Sulu want to claim their legal & historical rights. Malaysia made a grave mistake in the past in undermining the Sabah claim issue by the heirs of the Sultanate of Sulu.
Our claim is mainly based on the following propositions: that Overbeck and Dent, not being sovereign entities nor representing sovereign entities, could not and did not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that on the basis of authoritative British and Spanish documents, the British North Borneo Company, a private trading concern to whom Dent transferred his rights, did not and could not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that their rights were as those indicated in the basic contract, namely, that of a lessee and a mere delegate; that in accordance with established precedents in International Law, the assertion of sovereign rights by the British Crown in 1946, in complete disregard of the contract of 1878 and their solemn commitments, did not and cannot produce legal results in the form of a new tide. Jovito Salonga
philippines were just using Sulu as puppet to make them to pursue the claim. This is an old politician tactics by the PH government. too desperate for sabah because they realise its their mistake in the first place by not supporting Sulu sultanate movements
The doctor Oh Ei Sun is correct that the calim is "ilogical" because on the first place there is no need for any claim since SABAH always belonged to the Sultanate of Sulu. It was never given, sold, or granted to Malaysia. So technically, it doesn't belong to Malaysia.
Even the guest speakers of this show were hesitant of their thoughts, no one of the guests are very sure of their saying. Guilt is the KEY. The warriors of Sultan of SULU way back in 1658 had given their lives and had killed during the rebellion fight of Sultan of Brunie versus the REBELS.. those Tausug fought and being killed to restore the Kingdom of Brunie and that must be bloody during that time. YOu Malaysia should give what is due for heirs of Sultan of SULU, dont you know you have prospered and improved your lives using the resources that are not yours? Return back the property to the rightful owners, so much their lives (SULU's Sultan Descendants) since year 1658 till now were still struggling for hardship, and it is about time you have to give what is for them. What have you done is totally HARAM, as if the food you have earned from that property is HARAM, worst than eating pork.. I am Moslem also, so I know what it feels thing is robbed from the rightful owner, give back to Tausug what is due for them.
According to the Bruneian records...The Sulus never came to aid the Sultan in the said war. So the possession of Sulu to Sabah was actually void. You need to check the writings of Brunei's history. So Sulu's claim on Sabah is actually HARAM.
@@kaintv8035 I am not Malaysian and I dont know much about Malaysian history. As a Bruneian I did study Brunei history back in the secondary school about 40 yrs ago. The one I studied somehow is different from yours. Back to my earlier question is whether Brunei promised to give the whole of Sabah or the eastern part only? In WW2, Japan conquered Sabah but retaken by allied forces then handed over to British govt. Where were 'sulu warriors'?
@@maharirajak5513 then explain why there's a contract that the British has to pay rent to the Sultanate of Sulu. And explain why the Arbitration sided to the Sultanate of Sulu that the Malaysian Government owed Sultanate of Sulu and has to pay $15 billion. Obviously your knowlegde of the matter is very limited!
Please be reminded that the lease not sale was 5300 Mexican gold pcs not ringgit. The sultanate has all legal rights and proof of ownership and likewise proof of yearly lease w/c stopped in 2013, indeed a blessing in disguise. Malaysia has to abide by the arbitration rule.
just a question?if sabah does belongs to malaysia then why does malaysia needs to pay rent to the sultan of sulu of the philippines?there is logic over this..
@@donaldj3286 if people of sabahans don't want to be part of sulu 🇵🇭🧕 they're free to live in Malaysia 🇲🇾 land ! People of sulu will live there 😏😏😏🤔🙄🧕🧕🧕🤭🤭🤭🤣🤣😏🤣🤣
@@RANMAJUANHALF-23 then go out in Sabah. 🤣🤣 It's not yours you are just A Squatter.. go back to Kuala Lumpur easy as that before the court Freeze all your asset .😁
The fact that Malaysia acknowledge that they are paying rent means an acceptance that Sabah is not their property. A virtual contract is form as offer, acceptance and consideration is provided by Malaysia and Sultan of Sulo.
@Hope Lope it was suppossedly 5300 spanish gold but subsequently was changed to 5300 ringgit. thats what the sultanate is arguing thats why it ballooned to $15B. The payment shouldve been gold not ringgit.
@Hope Lope there is an agreement, that agreement was presented during arbitration that's why the heirs of sulu wins the arbitration and awarded. And I ask you.. Why the arbitration court awarded the claim to the heirs of sulu if you think that there is no legal basis?
correct and the fact that efforts to offer more money to the Sultanate was offered by the Malaysians after the heirs took this to court says a lot about how loose the Malaysian grip on this claim is.
Malaysians are like: I live in an apartment owned by Philippines but stop paying monthly rental and made it my own and I don't want to give it back. Filipino owner: ...... 😬
Check your history woman from sultanate of Brunei ask for help of sultanate of sulu and as token sabah is the price given to the sultanate of Brunei to the sultanate of sulu the kiram family. We are not greedy we only claim what’s ours not the whole Malaysia.
IT IS SPECIFIED ON THE LEASE CONTRACT AGREEMENT SIGNED BETWEEN THE SULTANATE OF SULU AND THE BRITISH NORTH BORNEO COMPANY THAT ANY DISPUTE ON THE LEASE CONTRACT WILL BE SETTLED ON THE ARBITRATION COURT AND BOTH PARTIES AGREED. BE IT KNOWN TO EVERYBOBY THAT THIS IS A LEASE CONTRACT AGREEMENT, IT IS NOT AT TREATY AS WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE SAYING.
In short...Sabah is in the republic of the Philippines..historically Philippines Map has included sabah...even elementary graders can understand the situation...GREED is the root of everything..
Sabah is a part of Philippines Malaysian government the LandGrabber, also they are treated bad Filipinos living in Sabah, Congratulations to the sultanate of sulu Philippines
@@Qamarun.channel look your government having chaos, there fighting 😂😆😆😆😆😆😆 Malaysia get underestimate there neighbord country,they think are superior and intelligent 🤓🤓🤓
@Hope Lope if you really own Sabah, why do you have an annual payment for the sultanate of sulu? Be logical. If you are paying, it means you are leasing the land. The owner won’t pay a stranger if he/she owns the land. You keep on insisting on 1800s years but do you think this international tribunal is that stupid to make a decision without any valid reason? Don’t ask me about proof of documents I know you will ask this question. If you want documents supporting this claims, ask the international tribunal.
@Hope Lope the British company pays rent to the sultanate of sulu. The British company doesn't own it, it's the wrong doings of the British company and the Malaysian government.
Latest news as on 6th November 2024. Paris Supreme Court rejected Sulu's appeal to overturn previous Paris Court of Appeal decision which set aside and annulled Paris Court ruling awarding Sulu US$14.92B compensation. Since Supreme Court is the highest court, the decision is final and Malaysia won.
How can somebody invalidate the claim of the Sultanate of Sulu for SABAH, they acquire the land by sweat, tears, and blood, and somebody will say that Maylasia must find a way to invalidate the Sultanate of Sulu's claims. The people of SABAH must respect their elders knowing that the land was acquired and owned by the Sultanate of Sulu.
@Hope Lope , probably the best way to answer your questions is to check the latest arbitration award. im pretty sure that all the details are available. :)
@Hope Lope Hahaha this hope lope can't accept the fact that the sulu sultanate is the owner of sabah, and malaysia is just renting. Hahaha poor malaysia they claim the land that is not belong to them. Now malaysia si panicking because they never to pay the rent and it costs billions😂😂🤣
@Hope Lope the malaysian federation after independence inherited the least contract of north borneo companoy of the former british empire,the malaya federation was paying least til they stoped 2010 and sultanate protested and filed a case that are now they are winning
@Hope Lope the malaysian government knows that the contract they inherited is not a sovereign title,thats why the sabahans are worried that sulu claims over petronas assets may affect sabahs sovereignty as awhole and possibly de stabilize malayan federation,thats why they dont want to disscuss sabah sovereignty because itbwill always boil down to philippines having a solid stance on sovereignty right on sabah
@Hope Lope french court order the malaysian to seiz it assets which they have to follow according to the constitution because of the presented evidence of sulu
@Hope Lope british north borneo company is paying RM 5000 to sulu everyyear untill malaya federation declared independence included sabah which triggered indonesia and philippines claiming malaysia broke a deal on manila agreement resulting into indonesia invading malaysia
Please stop saying “self-proclaimed heirs” or to “those claiming as heirs” of the Sultanate of Sulu because that is showing disrespect to them. They Are The Rightful Heirs. You may google their family tree. Stop hinting otherwise. And this is Poetic Justice 🙏🏻God bless them.
Thats correct even the Arab monarchy and Muslims Royalties recognizes the Sultanate of Sulu how dare they questioned the legallity and Authority of the Sultanate of Sulu
@@litolito7570 exactly why Sultanate of Sulu should rule the whole Philippines. Why stop on Sabah when you can also have the House rule over the whole country. What a joke. You guys didn’t even give them autonomy in their own tiny island.
@@fab8490 and why would they do it ..? You dont know the whole system in PH govt ..thats why you talk about this about that ...as if you know our government ...and knowledgeable to our laws...you talking like an ignorant idiot..
It's because philippines and indonesia comes from one linage. And i have a question for you! Does Sarawak are part of indonesia right? Amd not malaysia?
Filipinos are more ethnically racially close to Indonesia because they are the latest group that came to Philippines via Balangay. The first group are the Malays then came the Indonis group . Dialects of Ilocano, Pangasinense , Kapampangan , Bicolano, Visayan etc.. have more in common in Indonesia
There is a time for the harvest , a time for a legal action , a celebration that the national court is on the side of the true Landlord which the Sultanate of Sulu...God bless our fellow country men who fights in a humblest manner...
Praise the lord ! The world is with Kiram's Family! Sultan of Sulu ,moro Pilipino , a man of true brave 😍 young at heart forever darling of The good people of mindanao!
Peaceful way to resolve this is to give it back to sultanate of sulu while it is being in the territory of Malaysia. But of course many will disagree like me. I still think it is rightfully the territory of Philippines.
@@raikey2176 Those words are quite different. A country is an independent sovereign state. Autonomous means it has an independent jurisdictions and legal rights, but it is still part of the territorial rights of a particular country.
@Rai Key, FYI Brunei is much much older than Malaysia. Malaysia was only formed due to British presence and also land grabbing from Indonesian, Brunei and Philippine territory. Malaysia wasn't even supposed to be a country. Half of it should be part of Brunei and the other half should be Indonesian (not including Sabah since it is part of the Philippines).
@@spikespicegel5572 Yeah so if there should be anyone who should be land grabbing, they should be Brunei and the Philippines. Other Malaysians claim that the Sultanate of Sulu came from Johor in Malaysia disregarding the fact that the recent DNA study shows that the ancestors of Malaysians are the Igorots in the Cordilleran province of the Philippines who migrated to Malaysia thousands of years ago.
malaysia cannot change the fact that Sabah belongs to the Sultanate of Sulu, Philippines. now it is high time to return the land to its rightful owner.
If malaysia is renting sabah, why is malaysia talks as if it owns sabah? If the sultanate of sulu was shortchanged by malaysia the sultanate of sulu can anytime cancel the lease.
Dr. Sun, you agree that Sabah was only under lease by paying RM5000 per year. Therefore, Sabah is not part of Malaysia. You even said that it should be around RM 50k arrears only. What about the natural resources of Sabah which Malaysia illegally getting. The oil, gas, lumber etc. And the damages in the eco system. Not to mention the human rights violations committed against the Pilipinos in Sabah. Praise God, Lord Jesus, he is mighty to judge and avenge his people from injustice. Mightier than any proud god of a false prophet.
Sorry to ask this, I'm just curious, if Sabah is Philippines and under lease by Malaysia, of course they have signed an agreement about rental. But as per their agreement did they state in the contract that Filipinos can't step to Sabah without passport?
@@hhsssytem8522 the contract between the sultanate of sulu and the British company was agreed upon in 1878. In the 1960s many Filipinos moved to Sabah encouraged by then Philippine President Diosdado Macapagal.
(?)🤔 *why some of the nations like Malaysia try to DISREGARD their signed international laws and try to IGNORE international court ruling if these will be against on their interest... even can ignore contract of lease* 😫 *this action is very UNRELIABLE and somehow DISRESPECTFUL. Moreover, it weakens INTEGRITY...*
Dr. Sun, "the other side", is the Philippines and the Heirs of the Sultanate of Sulu, our country is not claiming all of Sabah. The large part of it is yes, owned by Malaysia. The Heirs of the Sultanate of Sulu owns a part of Northern Sabah. Malaysia, for the longest time, is only paying "rent" with a meager sum. And don't you think that by paying rent, Malaysia recognizes the ownership of the Sultanate of Sulu. If you can"t pay rent, then give it back to the Heir of the Sultanate of Sulu.
@@requiomaedwin2151 Sabah today are merger by 2 part half from territory from Sulu sultanate, lease forever(Malay:Pajak, until end of day), and half annexed from Brunei, just like Sarawak, more half of Sarawak taken by force from Brunei, Brunei are the one lost 90% of territory
Majilis - YOU ARE SABAHAN, THEREFORE A FILIPINO. IF YOU DISOWN BEING FILIPINO THEN YOU CAN MOVE TO THE OTHER SIDE OF MALAYSIA. YOU CAN GET OUT OF NORTH BORNEO.
It is a default, the lease is no longer valid due to that default and Malaysia goverment should leave immediately. The rental will be skyrocketing high at this time.
The British-made translation of the original document is to blame. Whoever created that translation made this conflict. The original document, written in the native language, clearly states that Sabah was only leased. The English translation made by the British changed this to "ceded". Both initially understood the agreement as a mere lease. When the Philippines & Malaysia became independent states, the Philippines applied the original document, while Malaysia applied the English translation of the document. So its literally an "Original document vs a Translated document" scenario. Also, according to one of the guest in the video, Atty Roger said that the best way for Malaysia to win this case is to invalidate the existing treaty used now by the Philippines. This means he knows that Malaysia will ultimately lose in court, & the only way to deflect that is to make-up some "historical" documents that do not exist. What a strange way to say they lost.
Yah right sadly the sulanate of sulu heirs has a documents represent in arbitration which is written in a native language of Malay and the word pajakan is used in there meaning in English translation lease not sold 😆
Sure but there is no sultanate of sulu anymore in the philippines. Even philippino government does not recognise any sultans if i am correct. The lease payment was meant to be paid to the sultanate which still hold the authority in Sulu. And Not to the descendants of this sultanate who wields no power.
Malaysia is paying for the lease of Sabah until 2013, then now question the credibility of the signatory? Come on Malaysia, the world is not that ignorant. Just pay the $15B and plead for a renewal of lease from the Sultanate of Sulu. from the start Malaysia until 2013, you acknowledge the legitimacy of the contract but on 2013 you think you can get away from the claim of the Sulu Sultanate by not paying your lease, good job. Thank you Malaysia.
This clown is not even direct to the point. The arbitrary decision was that Sabah was never sold but rather it was leased to a foreign businessmen. The obvious one is that Malaysia has been leasing Sabah from Sultanate of Sulu. This clown has stated the leasing payments but never said the reason why Malaysia was paying a lease agreement to the Sultanate of Sulu. Third, why would Malaysia forcefully stops lease payments to Sultanate of Sulu.
Malaysian Government occupied Sabah ILLEGALLY, It always belong to Sultanate of Sulu and belongs to the Philippines as a whole. You never had ancestral argument on that land.
@Hope Lope do have also the proof that Malaysia has the ancestral claim on Sabba? The sultan of Sulu and the sultan of Brunei are brothers and not related to any one on Malaysia..
@Hope Lope the proof are these: #1 Pack your important stuff #2 Buy some brain cells so we can understand each other (Ang hirap mo kasing intindihin ) #3leave sabah That very simple than you thought.Well
Sabah is Philippines 🇵🇭Sabah is own by Brunei and later given to Philippines Sultan Of Sulu as a gift. Later rented by oil company and Malaysia to the Sultan of Sulu to exploit the natural resources of Sabah.
My ancestor was a tax collector for the Bruneian Sultanate, until the British North Company leased the area. So the claim that Sulu owned whole of Sabah is wrong!!!
Not the whole Sabah but only the East Coast Part of Sabah which was offered by the Bruneian. Before the Bruneian made an agreement with the British Conpany later. But the offer was denied by those Sulu. So this means Sulu don't owned any part or the whole Sabah. Please be accurate.
malaysian govt is keeping the secret they inherit a least contrct of the north borneo company of the british empire and keeping it a secret that they were paying rent till 2010 and now theyre shock to know just know they were indeed paying least!
Calling the arbitral ruling illogical but then seeking legal advice both internal and external. The Philippines' claim over Sabah goes way back to the time of then President Diosdado Macapagal and the current President Marcos Jr will not just "let it drop" like what you are suggesting.
Absolutely right.. The Sulu Sultanate leased Sabah to Austrian Baron Overbeck then transferred to British Prospector Alfred Dent then to British North Borneo and then to British Crown (Vehemently protested by then US Governor General to the Philippines- F.B. Harrison) And then finally with total disregard to the owner Sulu Sultanate the British included Sabah in the newly formed Malaya Federation in1963
Oh c'mon the State of Malaysia was created in September 16, 1963. The dealing was penned between The Sultanate of Sulu and British Company hundreds of years prior. You do your research.
I really wonder, from a simple renter and turned into a big time land grabber!! Return Sabah to the Sultanate of Sulu, Philippines diplomatically and peacefully which is not yours after all we are all the same Malay race and south east asians..
@@xhikato6729 hahaha brainless it will go to international tribunal use your head not by force hahaha Malaysia occupied ellegally in Sabah, Sabah Philippines soon the right owner the country Philippines
I am a sabahan indigenous and im not interested to become a pilak..remember sabah is not just the land, its the people. Pilipin can make noise all they want but at the end of the day if u want to take over our land, blood will be spilled.
@@klb2018 correct Sabahan is not the just the land but the people. If Sabahans wish to follow Malaysia you are welcome to move to a legit Malaysian territory or a Sabah territory not part of the disputed lands. Just do a graceful exit, anyhow its not the whole Sabah claimed here only a part of it although its a large chunk.
Sana ma claim na may lupain ang mga Ninono katunayan may parti na ako sa nasasakupan ng nort burneo sa Palau banggi dati kasi noon Philippines Sana ipagpatuloy ang claims mabuhay,
The case is very simple: Malaysia stopped paying their rent of 5,300 Mexican dollars as stated in the contract. Once Malaysia, breached the agreement, the court assumed that the property goes back to the owners ( Sultan if Sulu). Why $15 billion award to the Sultan of Sulu? Because that’s the money the Sultan of Sulu should have made from the time Malaysia stopped paying rent.
Correction: $15B awarded because of convertion of 5,000 Mexican gold bullion a year. But this was reduced later on to 5,000 Malaysian ringgit when Sabah was annexed by the Federation of Malaysia. Gold stays in value but ringgit is affected by inflation. So the difference of value between the modes of payment considering inflation plus the rent stopped from 2013 til today
Just to get this corrected. The original deal in 1878 - The Sulu sultan leases Sabah to the British North Borneo Co., represented by Englishman Alfred Dent and German Gustavus Baron de Overbeck in a deed of pajak (“lease”) in which the company would pay 5,300 Mexican gold pieces a year to the Kingdom of Sulu. Instead it was converted to ringgit. This is one of the reasons why the rent ballooned to 14.9 billion dollars in todays money. I hope this helps you all see the truth.
The deception, manipulation were undeniably conspicuous and the international court had seen it all. The rightful owners deserve equitable compensation. To Malaysia, Ninoy Aquino has long been gone, give to the heirs due them.
Go back to your land malaysia. A victory to all sulu people and filipino people. Mabuhay
British is the one how need to fix this to clear everything. If you are renting you dont have the right to give it away even what your country say. And they are afraid if this is proven they have to release the sutan army they only there to protec there land.
You are correct
Your much far knowledgeable to the people who interview,no offense the people you interview really knows nothing at all,why did you interview this kind of people
The Malaysian government has been secretly (they do not want this to be known to people of Malaysia for obvious reasons) recognizing the contract as evident by their payments from 1963 until 2013. They took the opportunity to cease payment citing the Tanduo incident without realizing the consequences. Now they are waking up from their nightmare.
Correct
Erratum: 1878, by the British East India Company.
Exactly. Now they wish they were not that arrogant back then to ignore the Sulu Sultanate and neglect their duties during the arbitrary proceeding by the international court. 🖒
Sultan heirs have authenticated evidence and documents plus the reciept issue by malaysian embassy in ph
@@richardunica3542 Case Closed
The king of Brunei awarded Sabah to the Sultanate of Sulu since 1704 while Malaysia became a nation back in 1966 only.
Yeah this is the history to whom it should be belonged.
para silang ginisa sa sarili nilang mantika 😄 🤣
they are really talking nonsense talaga.
Malaysia was born in 1963.
while ang sultan ng sulo napasakamay na nya ang sabah noong 17century. nang nereward ng Bruni sa kanila.
Please read brunei history and compare with sulu history..
Acceptance is the key. It hurts but as a Filipino Citizen all i can say is for how MANY years your country benefited Sabah?
We are happy that finally we claimed it. Philippines are very proud...
That's right. There was even come to a point that when frmr pres.FEM tried to talk to the former prime minister of Malaysia then but was rejected and insisted that Sabah is theirs. That brought to a point frmr pres.FEM assembled an elite tausug warrior soldiers and trained in Corregidor Is. under col. martelino, to take Sabah by force. But a traitor( u know who it is) mentioned to the Malaysian prime minister about the mission that's why it was aborted. The traitor was given a Malaysian citizenship for giving the said information. But that's the history then. Now the real issue is that Sabah is owned by the sultanate of sulu. It was given to the sultan by the sultan of Brunei as a gift for helping them against the pirates that tried to invade Brunei long time ago with documents now with heirs of the sultan. So Malaysia has no claim at all and for sure they will lose this case!
Claim what ? Come claim pag pag we give u for free 😂🤌
@@fvckziones1286 just wait ...we will arrive on that ....just relax now ...we will deal you later ....🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@fvckziones1286 you are the first person who will eat pagpag .. prepare yourself 😂
@@fvckziones1286
Your so proud doing HARAM your not afraid of Allah...Your family got feed by doing HARAM is Allah proud of it?
Thanks to the Malaysian government For not paying your rentals. In 2013.. You have opened a history that has been closed for a long time. And because of that the world recognizes who are the real owners and who are the claimants
Correct. Thats the consequence of their action, which eventually, favored the Sulu Sultanate and the Philippines in a tremendous way.
One of their MP said, "habit of underestimating neighbors" is the correct term for that. Now Malaysian govt is paying the price.
COPIED COMMENTS😂
Mr. English adopted a son, Abdul. Mr. English lease a land from Sultan. When Abdul debut, he was gifted by Mr. English the land he leased from Sultan. Mr. English told Abdul to pay the rent every year. Abdul love the land and started using all the resources there. But Sultan wants to stop the lease and get the land back. Abdul refused. Sultan sent his men to get the land but Abdul killed them. Now Abdul stopped the rent thinking the land is his because it was given by his dad. Now Sultan ask help from a police. The police was convinced that the land belongs to Sultan. And so the police said to Abdul, I am seizing your property as partial payment for your debts and compensation for stealing the resources of the land your father borrowed. Not only that, you destroyed the environment and you violated human rights in that land. As a penalty and compensation you are to pay Sultan $14.9b. To incur additional 10% if not paid within a year and the succeeding years and will stop until fully paid. Shocked Abdul panicked and blaming his father for giving him a problem. Nyay.
The Malaysian government paying this for so long a time shows that the real owners of Sabah are the Sultans of Sulu. The problem arises that the Malaysian government don't wish to cede it are basically economical in nature. Ceding Sabah will reduce the income of Malaysia by 35% to 40% because of the Petronas facilities located there. People who comment here were not born yet during such time and do not hold any documents of claims. They saying that Malaysia owns Sabah should provide proof of claims. This is very clear in all phases in claims. Unfortunately, with all the consistent payments of Malaysia to the Sultans there are clear records of claims. So let us not muddle facts. For the record since 1970's the Philippines are in dispute of these islands and Philippines have had so many attempts to reclaim this Sabah through force. Now the Philippines used the legal way and Malaysia lost because they had NO documents to prove their claims. Most Malaysians may not even know that there are so many people who live in Sabah comes from the different part of the Philippines since before. And they go there freely without passports or otherwise and only use the permission from the Sultan of Sulu. Let the facts speaks for itself rather than say matters that many do not seem to understand.
@@wiraakohero6084 the best laymans story :) Mr. English was the main villain haha
I hope this will not result in an arms conflict. Welcome to Philippines, Sabah.
The International Tribunal court already spoken and give the rights to the heirs of the Sultanate of Sulu !!! This is victorious for the heirs of The Sultanate of Sulu !!! From the Philippines 🇵🇭 !!!
The Heirs of SULU just Wanted to involve the Philipines government regarding the dispute to COLLECT MORE MONEY FOR THEMSELVES. The heirs of sultan dont have the military power to push their rights. 5000 ringgit or 70,000 pesos they get from the rent is nothing compared to the billions of money generated by the malaysian government by getting its resources like oil. Sultan heirs want more money, so they tried to invade sabah.
If the 14.9 billion dollars award to sultan Heirs by the arbitral ruling doesnt benefit the Filipino people and only exclusive to the heir of the sultan. . then its not worth the bloodshed. Let the sultan fight their own fight and not involve the entire Philippines government...!!
@@DuterteBars Princess Jacel Kiram address this already in an interview stating according to her that … since Sulu is part of the Philippines it’s within the Philippines so … this win is for the entire country ! now … I think that all of us is just waiting what Malacañgang Palace have to say because … at this point … (I think) that they still not given any sides about this important matters.
@@DuterteBars People of Sabah, you are now directed to get your Philippine passports. Malaysians, kindly bring your passports upon entering Sabah, Philippines. 💖 Thank you. 🖒
It's More Fun in the Philippines with Sabah! ⛱😆🖒
Malaysian people, relax. Blame your Government. They lied to you. I pity you. Even them, they now know LAWFULLY they have to return the land they were previously renting. Your ENTIRE ANNUAL NATIONAL BUDGET is in jeopardy if they don't. You know what "FREEZING" of "MALAYSIAN GOVERNMENT ASSETS" around the world will do to Malaysia.
@@dds4911 no, the territory belongs to the Philippines but the award according to arbitral ruling, the $14.9 billion with 10℅ interest per annum belongs to the "heir of the sultan" That is very specific. It is not our battle. Just pawns. The poor pays with blood. Also remember that the invasion of the Sultan troops is carefully planned for the very specific reason "to force malaysia". To " breach the contract" by not paying the rent since 2013.
Therefore, for obvious reasons. They are after the money. the 5000 Ringgit turned into $14.9 billion very very quick. This is not our battle.
@@DuterteBars That's wrong, the PH gov't should take all the $14.9 B because the legal rights were given to the PH gov't during the time of Pres. Macapagal in the '60s. But then again, the PH gov't should give parts of it to the 8 descendants of the Sultan of Sulu as mandated by the PH constitution.
Welcome to SABAH, PHILIPPINES . . .
by the way . . . CONGRATULATIONS TO THE FAMILY OF THE SULTANATE OF SULU AND ALL THE TAUSUGS . . . what a great victory . . . !!!
Correct bring back sabah to the pilipinos
what is the family name of SULTANATE of sulu?
Not Sabah but North Borneo, Philippines...
@@pinoypowerrules North Borneo is your ancestor land from the past.now its called a Borneo Sabah
@@ricklincortez2579 So did pinoys get it??
6:14 What do you think is the better move of Malaysia is to pay the 14 billion to the heirs of the royal family of the Sultanate of Sulu and surrender Sabah (North Borneo) and to be part of the sovereignity the Republic of the Philippines.
Malaysia benefited so much over Sabah for the 5,000 Ringgit annually from 1961 to 2013. I think it's time for them to return what is not theirs in the first place
What is strange is that while the oil industry of Sabah contributes 20% to the Malaysian GDP, only 5,300 ringgit is allocated as rental to the actual owners of Sabah -- the Sultanate of Sulu. The $14 billion partial compensation is obviously not enough.
Exactly!
5000 ringgit.
Only 5,300 ringgit but it was originally a 5,000 Mexican gold before. Malaysia is not just voiding the contract but even abusing several times for almost 6 decades without giving fair rentals to the Sultanate. Sad to say, PNoy administration didn't help the 200 Tausog warriors who tried to live and occupy Sabah in 2013. I guess, PNOy received compensation from those conflict.
@@PERLAS-NG-SILANGANAN yeah traitor always a traitor yan ang nananalaytay sa dugo ng mga aquino! Dont trust aquino family and their party's
It is what it is.
Justice for our brothers from Royal Army of Sulu who died reclaiming Sabah last 2013.
now the world knows.. our brothers who died claiming sabah did not die in vain...they are heroes in the eyes of filipinos.. sabah issue has awaken the nationalism of filipinos... so does the WPS.
Amazing how truth is coming out now
Sulu Army killed our Police and soldiers
@@dellcruz2818 Yeah they did not die in vain because the Justice is now serve and I hope Sabah will be back to the Philippines and help the Sultanate of Sulu descendants to rehabilitate Sabah and our Countrymen their who abused, maltreated, ignored by Malaysian Authorities and its time they will be on ruins
Inshalla
Not really language stuff but this is just too good not to share.
Due to the Lahad Datu stand off in 2013 (i.e. when the forces of the Sultanate went to Sabah to reclaim it) Malaysia cease the payments for the lease of Sabah to the Heirs of the Sultanate of Sulu. Take note, their government itself was paying rent.
In March, the French arbitration court favored the Heirs of the Sultanate of Sulu and ordered Malaysia to pay them a whopping billion USD in relation to the lease of Sabah.
Malaysia ignored this.
Just recently, Luxembourg ordered the seizure of two susidiaries of the Malaysian state owned Petronas worth $ 2 Billion as part of the execution of the arbitral award.
Malaysia's parliament is in chaos because not only their global assets are at risk but also because they are about to lose Sabah. Jeff the french court ordered the malaysian government to pay 14 billion USD to the sultanate of sulu. malaysian court doesn't recognize it, so their assets such petronas got seized. if they will still not pay it, all of their assets will be seized to as part of execution. so yes, malaysian economy will collapse and the country will be bankrupted if they will still not follow the order
Finally our Royal Family in the Philippines deserves their land back after 144 years.
sorry my ancestors were tax collectors for brunei sultanate not ur defunct no country royal family.
Philippines a republic recognize a monarch? Make it make sense.
Since when the sultan ruling the Philippines? 😂 The royal dont even have any power in your country 💁🏼♂️
Go out in Sabah malaysians
Philippines is still the colony of Spain and america.
“Malaysia needs to find out if the Sultanate of Sulu were eligible to sign the treaty 150 years ago.” Such a strong resolution to this issue. Even the Malaysian government rejects the petition because they know they have low chance of winning. Pinaupa na nga, gusto pa maging kanila.
Si Princess Jacel Kiram ang dapat maka usap nila
Akala nila rent to own
@@danielalexandercenteno6616 hahahahaha rent to own🤣
Our claim is mainly based on the following propositions: that Overbeck and Dent, not being sovereign entities nor representing sovereign entities, could not and did not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that on the basis of authoritative British and Spanish documents, the British North Borneo Company, a private trading concern to whom Dent transferred his rights, did not and could not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that their rights were as those indicated in the basic contract, namely, that of a lessee and a mere delegate; that in accordance with established precedents in International Law, the assertion of sovereign rights by the British Crown in 1946, in complete disregard of the contract of 1878 and their solemn commitments, did not and cannot produce legal results in the form of a new tide. Jovito Salonga
@@dannybarcenas9701 what do you mean by the word "Our"? Our as Filipino or are you part of Sulu? There is a possibility that it will lead to that eventually.
Nothing more amazing than to see people blinded by self-interest. If its not yours, give it back
The lawyers of the Sulu Sultanate are brilliant! This is an airtight case. Checkmate! 👊
If Malaysia wants to retain GOOD KARMA, they should pay the HEIRS...because it is the right thing TO DO.
The lease contract was for 5,300 Mexican gold per year. Malaysia converted the payment to ringgit. But the international court corrected that mistake by Malaysia and hence the reason for the astronomical bill ($15B) that Malaysia has to settle now.
Malaysia better pay fast since the interest is 10% p.a.
I think the $14.9 Billion is not even enough indemnity to Filipino Muslim brothers who lost their lives in claiming Sabah since it is really their own, not to mention the benefits that Malaysia is reaping from the bounty of the land they are renting which they are actually grabbing.
Lease by Britain transferred to Malaysia; Lessor is Sultanate of Sulu; Issue : Pay up
you pay or leave
@@venencioescabartejr.9718 For many decades they profitted rom the Land that never belonged to them
Simple as that. Sulu Sultanate leased it to Baron Overbeck, then Overbeck transfered lease to Alfred Dent, then Dent transferred lease to British North Borneo, was then turned over to the British Crown (strongly objected by F.B. Harrison - US Gov. General in the Phil) then was included in the formed Independent State of Malaya Federation. It is still a Contract Lease from Sultanate of Sulu transferring hands
Of course rents increase as time passes by this norms and do you expect you pay same price as before ? You are Lucky then
Congratulations Malaysia! You opened the pandora box when you stopped paying rents to our Tausug brothers and sisters (i.e. Sultanate of Sulu). To make things worse for you, we just elected a compassionate and hands-on President that would represent the Kiram family to their claim. Why? Because the Kiram family are FILIPINOS and the duty of the President of the Republic of the Philippines is to make sure that every Filipino is protected from injustice. What you did to the Kiram family is injustice. You bunch of liars. You even sent your terrorists in our southern provinces. You even funded ISIS-inspired terrorists cell to destabilize our southern territories. You will reap what you sow. By the way, your allies the Cojuangco-Aquino family are not powerful anymore. They are now even shunned by the majority of the Filipinos for selling our island nation to the communists, oligarchs and to you Malaysians! They are now suffering the karma of all their ill deeds. All Filipinos including the members of the Sultanate of Sulu know all your crimes!
I firmly believe....You speak the truth, Soft Lofi, about what's going on this crucial issue. In addition, Malaysia have not paid the Sultanate of Sulu clans of their rent since 2013. Meaning, if you are renting an apartment and have not paid the Landlord or the owner for 10 long years, it's time for you to vacate the property since then, or the owner will ask you to leave his or her property ASAP. All I can say is--The Sultanate of Sulu, under the Philippine Government, owns the property and the rightful owner of the Property, which in turn will be entitled that SABAH now should be given back to the Philippines. Welcome back, SABAH. You will be in good hands with with your rightful owner, the Philippines, under our new President Ferdinand "Bong-Bong" Marcos, Jr. and Vice President Inday Sara Duterte.
Perfect yuo said it right...
Only God can tell on when will Philippines restore it's borders.
I'm a Filipino and very happy to know that Sabah is legally owned by Sulu, and part of Philippines archipelago.
But do not start making enemies with Malaysian people because they are still our ASEAN Family. Let Sulu, Ph gov and ML gov to have a peaceful solution on this. Because war is the least thing we want right now.
@@smolyponks YOU ARE A TRAITOR THEN. YOU BELONG TO THE COMMUNIST KAKAMPINKS. YOU LACK PATRIOTISM. WE WILL SEND YOU TO THE GULAGS.
How can you claim that Amount which not belong to your property..its your Brother's inlaw its against the Law of inheritance..Not belong to Sultan of Sulu .its An Estate of North - Borneo Sultan ( Sabah where His Palace remains herein Sabah which still Dormant ,Uninhabited..
Well if you really a land graber you will do everything. This is very simple Sabah is already in the possesion of the sultanate of Solu since 16th century and just leased on late 18th century by british owned company, now Malaysia was just established on 1968. This means that the agreement already exists before Malaysia was established. Therefore it belongs to the Philipines. Whose to blame are the british they turn over the land not to the owner..
In the words of the British side... British Acting Consul-General in Labuan, Mr. Treacher: "The Sultan of Brunei's territory extends, at the utmost, only to the West side of Malludu Bay, though formerly the Brunei kingdom extended as far as Cape Kaniungan, on the east coast, in latitude 1degree north.
The remaining territory mentioned in the grants is actually under Sulu rule, and occupied by Sulu Chiefs, and it was only because the districts were mentioned in the original American grants that they are again included, and Mr. Overbeck will now have to make a separate agreement with the Sultan of Sulu for them".
Note here:
Lord Salisbury Foreign secretary on North Borneo
In September 1878,
Count de Bylandt, the Dutch Minister in London, handed a note to the Permanent Under Secretary of the Foreign Office, Sir Julian Pauncefote, setting forth the legal rights of The Netherlands~~. Pressed fürther by Count de Bylandt with respect to the request for a Royal Charter by Dent and Overbeck and as to Britain's intentions concerning north-east Borneo, the
British Foreign Secretary,
Lord Salisbury, replied that his Government respected the rights of the Sultans of Sulu and Brunei and did not intend to do anything in derogation of those rights.
Lord Salisbury added:
"Probably, even if our response to Messrs. Dent and Overbeck was favourable, Her Majesty's Government would not go fürther than was justified by the precedents of Sir James Brooke at Sarawak, or of those
chartered commercial companies which in former times it had been the policy of this country to establish in various parts of the world without any aim of territorial acquisition.
CLEAR STATEMENT IS MADE IN UNAMBIGUOUS TERMS:
"The object of Her Majesty's Government was not to set up any dominion, or to enter upon controversy with respect to territorial
claims, but simply, if we saw an opportunity, to promote the development of the resources of the country under discussion"~
THERE WAS NO INTENT TO TAKE CONTROL OR RULE OVER LANDS ONLY TO DEVELOP LAND!
FUTHERE MORE:
In any event, the Netherlands Governrnent was not unduly concerned by the BNBC company's activities in North Borneo since, as the Dutch Colonial Minister noted in reply to an enquiry raised by the Parliament in 1880, this was "simply a question of the establishment of a private Company"(By the British). Moreover, the Minister felt that the Dutch interests had not been affected by the grants given by Brunei and Sulu
(grants to develop the land not to buy or control or rule over them!)
THE BNBC OWN CHARTER STATES AS FOLLOWING:
The BNBC's Charter stipulated a policy of respect of the local customs and internal
affairs. Historical studies of the BNBC's administration confirm that the Residents were carefùl not to interfere in the life of the indigenous populations. Notably, judicial administration over the natives was exercised by their own chiefs and headmen and carried out by the village courts in accordance with local customs. Similarly, the collection of taxes was carried out by local chiefs and other native collectors. In any event, even if the BNBC had wanted to carry out a different strategy, it lacked both the staff and the financial resources
to administer properly such a vast and diverse expanse of land5'.
- the charter states the judicial administration of civilians was in the hands of the local rulers not the BNBC, only the real rulers have right to decide judicial matters and did not delegate them to the BNBC (the BNBC was there to develop land not to rule and make judgments)
malaysia have no legal ground to stand on
even her queen majesty clears states through her foreign secretary of north borneo at the time
"The object of Her Majesty's Government was not to set up any dominion, or to enter upon controversy with respect to territorialclaims, but simply, if we saw an opportunity, to promote the development of the resources of the country under discussion"
therefore the grants given by the sulu sultanate are leases and even if they were not (which they were not) the queen did not want any of her representative or private and commercial charters GAINING ONWERSHIP DOMINION OR RULE OVER ANY TERRITORIAL CLAIMS IN THE AREA!!! FOR BNBC TO GO AGAINST THEIR QUEEN WOULD MEAN THEIR CHARTERS AND LICENSES REVOKED.... thus is was always a lease...
this senior fellow wants to let the issue die down because he knows malaysia does not have any stand on this.
Go Sultan Kiram.
#SabahPhilippines ❤️🇵🇭
Because of former PM Najib's mistake of not paying the 1878 lease aggrement since 2013 to the heirs of the Sultan of Sulu, the debt of Malaysia (interest) to the heirs of Sultan of Sulu is now reaching billions and soon if Malaysia still refuse to pay more of its international assets will be seized. And the worst to come, sooner its debt will be equal to or greater than its annual national budget...
And also soon Sabah will return to sultanate of sulu.
Operation Merdeka 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭
How dare done to pH...
@@adolphdelatorre3102 Glory to the Philippines 🇵🇭 PFEM’s plan realized in his son’s tenure
Biblical Jubilee is here... dont worry people of Sabah you are lucky to be a filipino.
A tenant attacking the landlord using tha lease agreement. The more the delay the higher the penalty a 10 percent of 15 billion is a sound money.
As a Malaysian.. i still need to get a work permit to work in Sabah... it tells a lot who sabah belongs to.. not feeling malaysian working there.
Thank you for pointing that out. Sabah belongs to the Sultanate of Sulu and transferred these lands back to the Philippines .
Sabah belongs to Sabahan but a part of Malaysia. I m from KL, I get ur frustration but in all fairness, if they don't do that, then the quality of life of Sabahan will drop as many people from semenanjung will take over. But now many not la but
@@BejedHebat Sabah belongs to the Philippines and people of Sabah are not Malaysians. The fact that a Malaysian needs a work permit to work in Sabah just tells you that the Malaysian government knows that Sabah does not belong to Malaysia. Sabahans are Filipinos!
@@mytaroboy I guess that is the difference. U don't actually care what people of Sabah want. Sabah has its immigration to safeguard their interest.
Filipinos also can't enter legally into Sabah without a passport. Hence, ur argument.
If Sabah were to secede out of Malaysia, trust me, they won't join the Philippines. They will want to be an independent state or form a united Borneo. However, if that were to happen, it would be the right of the Sabahan people.
This is a commercial transaction and not a state function, a lease contract between the sultanate of sulu and the British company. The Sultanate of sulu did not give up its rights, it has and it still belongs to the heirs of the sultanate of sulu and they have been trying to reclaim sabah since the 1960s when sabah was included in the territorial boundaries of Malaysia in 1963 when Malaysia gained its independence. There was an existing contract, it was honored by both parties since the beginning and it was continued on until it was breached in 2013. The evidences are very solid and clear. The annual 5300 ringgit rent from the original 5000 Mexican gold was an unjustifiable amount for renting how many hundreds if not thousands of square kilometers of land that was why the back pay when computed ballooned to USD14.9B because the value of sabah appreciated over time, this was also taken into consideration.
This Singaporean guy in the interview seems do not understand the word "Appreciate". These people look down Filipinos like we are idiots. Typical Singaporean.
"Our claim is mainly based on the following propositions: that Overbeck and Dent, not being sovereign entities nor representing sovereign entities, could not and did not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that on the basis of authoritative British and Spanish documents, the British North Borneo Company, a private trading concern to whom Dent transferred his rights, did not and could not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that their rights were as those indicated in the basic contract, namely, that of a lessee and a mere delegate; that in accordance with established precedents in International Law, the assertion of sovereign rights by the British Crown in 1946, in complete disregard of the contract of 1878 and their solemn commitments, did not and cannot produce legal results in the form of a new tide." Senator Jovito Salonga
Annual rent was 5,000 mexican gold per original contract. It was never Malaysian Ringgit. The arbitral ruling also considered the income forgone starting from the date of default whuch is 2013.
It was lease 5,000 mexican gold but chnge by malaysian govt into rinngit. See how cunning they are.
Your right
Just be thankful because you have been benefited from Sabah for how so many decades, I think, its now time for Sulu people...🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭
@Hope Lope they have the land title 🙄🙄🙄
Operation Merdeka 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭
@Hope Lope The proof are all shown in Arbitral court. You should have attended the court hearing when the Sulu heirs won the case.
@Hope Lope I dont have the land title but ask copy to the Sultanate of Sulu. Malaysia can only choose between giving the assets to the sultanate of sulu or bring back the sabah to them. The answer should not be none.
Mabuhay ang Sultanate of SuLu❤❤❤
@Hope Lope whatever you say. You’re still land grabber and is not right. Sabah is Philippines and there are proof unlike your so cold opinion. Also, stay order is just a stay order while the court revisits the case. Ultimately, Sabah is still under PH sovereignty because heirs of Sultan already gave the rights to the republic of the Philippines over Sabah.
All due respect to your atty.guest, you can never invalidate the rights of the sultanate of sulu in entering a lease agreement with the british company where the lease amount of 5k mexican dollars originated. Second, the recent ruling of the arbitral court solidified the authenticity of this lease agreement as a result of the heirs propietary claim. Well Malaysia should watch out once the Philippine govt will pusrue its sovereign claim over Sabah since in the 1960s the siltanate has ceeded its rights to the republic of the Philippines.
This Sabahan representative were questiong herself why the Sultanate of Sulu became so powerful and the court decission is in favor to them as if she forgot that they are the ruler of that land a "Sultan" the owner and the ruler of the land. This Sabahan were just squatting to that land to the point that they already forgot whose the owner of that land. To the point that they established their right without the permission of the rightful owner of the land. They embeded the lies in their mind that Sabah belongs to them. So who's the Land grabber (Malaysia) here? For those Sabahan that don't want to be a subject of the Philippine rule just incase Sabah will be ceded back to the Philippines, a simple advise. Pack your bags and leave of Sabah.
on point! just get out of SABAH very simple.
Mga ingrata at ingrato. Who's the poor now? Not being boastful, but these Sabah people keep telling that they dont want to be Filipino because Filipinos are poor. Who's the poor now? I think to those Sabahan accept your original identity or You can also apply dual citizenship. Why not. Philippine President also have its plan to Sabah since PFEM.
Mga ingrata at ingrato. Whose the poor now? Not being boastful, but these Sabah people keep telling that they dont want to be Filipino because Filipinos are poor. Whose the poor now? I think to those Sabahan accept your original identity or You can also apply dual citizenship. Why not. Philippine President also have its plan to Sabah since PFEM.
Sabah philippines in correction!!!🤣😅
Totally agree!
Malaysia abandoned his case and its in default. Whatever defects of jurisdiction should have been raised by Malaysia at the earliest opportunity and by its silence, was in default. It cannot even stay the arbitration order because it has abandoned its case. The argument that infringed Malaysian sovereignty is misplaced because that is originally a private contract of lease between parties that can be legally enforced without infringing countries sovereignty. The decision is correct.
Yes its true
There is no such thing as Malaysian Ringgit 150 years ago. So why pay in Ringgit?
'Lease in perpetuity until the sun or moon do not rise until end of time" is the contract to be able to use Sabah. Perpetual Lease ≠ Grant or Cede. Malaysia can only claim permanent lease as long as they pay however, Pajakkan Forever is no longer Forever since Malaysia breached the Perpetual Lease in 2013. Any Lease of Contract broken means that the property should be duly returned in favor of the owner, The Sultan of Brunei. Malaysia keeps on twisting this definition to justify a squatting renter since 2013 claim the property for herself
Going back to the French Case, they have awarded the $14.9 Billion award, the French court agreed with the Merit of the Word "Pajakkan" as a Lease and since you have broken the condition of Lease since 1939 North Borneo Macaskie decision, The French Court decided that any Organic gains of the Property (This is exclusive of the Sabah Land Claim itself) amounts to $14.9 Billion from 1939 to this day incurring 10% penalty for not paying in good faith
and good riddance that they defaulted, now there is no contract to talk about.
*they stopped payment.... they defaulted and forfeited the old agreement, so the owner has the right to raise the the rent* ....
*_SINCE 2013 MALAYSIA OWE THE OWNERS $14B FOR THE RENT AT PRESSENT REAL ESTATE VALUES OF THE WHOLE PROPERTY PLUS FINES AND TAXES AND THE CORRECTED ILLEGAL AND LIABLE CONVERSION OF MALAYSIA OF 5300 MEXICAN GOLD TO 5300 ringit... can be considered VERY CHEAP!!!! TAKE IT OR LEAVE_* !!!
FYI "Our claim is mainly based on the following propositions: that Overbeck and Dent, not being sovereign entities nor representing sovereign entities, could not and did not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that on the basis of authoritative British and Spanish documents, the British North Borneo Company, a private trading concern to whom Dent transferred his rights, did not and could not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that their rights were as those indicated in the basic contract, namely, that of a lessee and a mere delegate; that in accordance with established precedents in International Law, the assertion of sovereign rights by the British Crown in 1946, in complete disregard of the contract of 1878 and their solemn commitments, did not and cannot produce legal results in the form of a new tide." Jovito Salonga
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Mr. English adopted a son, Abdul. Mr. English lease a land from Sultan. When Abdul debut, he was gifted by Mr. English the land he leased from Sultan. Mr. English told Abdul to pay the rent every year. Abdul love the land and started using all the resources there. But Sultan wants to stop the lease and get the land back. Abdul refused. Sultan sent his men to get the land but Abdul killed them. Now Abdul stopped the rent thinking the land is his because it was given by his dad. Now Sultan ask help from a police. The police was convinced that the land belongs to Sultan. And so the police said to Abdul, I am seizing your property as partial payment for your debts and compensation for stealing the resources of the land your father borrowed. Not only that, you destroyed the environment and you violated human rights in that land. As a penalty and compensation you are to pay Sultan $14.9b. To incur additional 10% if not paid within a year and the succeeding years and will stop until fully paid. Shocked Abdul panicked and blaming his father for giving him a problem. Nyay.
@@wiraakohero6084I guess Abdul is Malaysia? Lol
17:35 Malaysian Lawyer says malaysia stop paying the rent. It means that Sabah Ph is lease, not ceded.
The question is why did Malaysia stop paying?
To the lady MP and a bias reporter, it is not just a story of the Sultanate of Sulu of their claim, it was corroborated with evidence.
I felt that too while watching this, the reporter is bais.
And Malaysia is estopped because of their payments
That Roger Lin said Malaysia is paying the amount to completely own SABAH. No, you are not correct, you have to check the contract again between The old British East India Company and the Sultanate of Sulu.
I think Brunei should also intervine and help the Philippines enforce the claims, because they are the orginal owner of the land, after gifting the land to the Sultan of Sulu as sign of friendship, helping them quelling the rebellion in 1663.
This is plain and simple problem between a tenant and landowner. Tenant stops paying rent, landowner push to claim what it is owed to them. That's why the arbitral court sided with them coz they have all the evidence(contracts, receipt etc). Don't need to expound more coz it's self explanatory for all people with a sound mind Filipinos and Malaysians alike.
Absolutely.. Just as simple as that
True wow you good at this observatory
Correct 10000%%
Sabah is part of the Philippine constitution, the Sultanate of Sulu owns Sabah, it was leased only to Malaysia not sold. Now, the heirs of the Sultanate of Sulu want to claim their legal & historical rights. Malaysia made a grave mistake in the past in undermining the Sabah claim issue by the heirs of the Sultanate of Sulu.
Our claim is mainly based on the following propositions: that Overbeck and Dent, not being sovereign entities nor representing sovereign entities, could not and did not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that on the basis of authoritative British and Spanish documents, the British North Borneo Company, a private trading concern to whom Dent transferred his rights, did not and could not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that their rights were as those indicated in the basic contract, namely, that of a lessee and a mere delegate; that in accordance with established precedents in International Law, the assertion of sovereign rights by the British Crown in 1946, in complete disregard of the contract of 1878 and their solemn commitments, did not and cannot produce legal results in the form of a new tide. Jovito Salonga
Why our muslim brothers in Mindanao were so silent about this matter? Just asking!
Terrorist sulu is Fake sultan 😂 they want robbed money from rich land sabah..
just so you know, Philipine does not recognise sulu sultanate sovereignty.
philippines were just using Sulu as puppet to make them to pursue the claim. This is an old politician tactics by the PH government. too desperate for sabah because they realise its their mistake in the first place by not supporting Sulu sultanate movements
The doctor Oh Ei Sun is correct that the calim is "ilogical" because on the first place there is no need for any claim since SABAH always belonged to the Sultanate of Sulu. It was never given, sold, or granted to Malaysia. So technically, it doesn't belong to Malaysia.
Congrats to Sultanate of Sulu 🇵🇭
Congrats to Filipino people 🇵🇭
Congrats to Philippines 🇵🇭
Even the guest speakers of this show were hesitant of their thoughts, no one of the guests are very sure of their saying. Guilt is the KEY. The warriors of Sultan of SULU way back in 1658 had given their lives and had killed during the rebellion fight of Sultan of Brunie versus the REBELS.. those Tausug fought and being killed to restore the Kingdom of Brunie and that must be bloody during that time. YOu Malaysia should give what is due for heirs of Sultan of SULU, dont you know you have prospered and improved your lives using the resources that are not yours? Return back the property to the rightful owners, so much their lives (SULU's Sultan Descendants) since year 1658 till now were still struggling for hardship, and it is about time you have to give what is for them. What have you done is totally HARAM, as if the food you have earned from that property is HARAM, worst than eating pork.. I am Moslem also, so I know what it feels thing is robbed from the rightful owner, give back to Tausug what is due for them.
Any proof that Sabah was given to Sulu? The whole of Sabah? A part of Sabah? ???
According to the Bruneian records...The Sulus never came to aid the Sultan in the said war. So the possession of Sulu to Sabah was actually void. You need to check the writings of Brunei's history. So Sulu's claim on Sabah is actually HARAM.
@@maharirajak5513 explain why malaysian govt giving a rent fee to sultan of sulu?
@@kaintv8035
I am not Malaysian and I dont know much about Malaysian history. As a Bruneian I did study Brunei history back in the secondary school about 40 yrs ago. The one I studied somehow is different from yours.
Back to my earlier question is whether Brunei promised to give the whole of Sabah or the eastern part only?
In WW2, Japan conquered Sabah but retaken by allied forces then handed over to British govt. Where were 'sulu warriors'?
@@maharirajak5513 then explain why there's a contract that the British has to pay rent to the Sultanate of Sulu. And explain why the Arbitration sided to the Sultanate of Sulu that the Malaysian Government owed Sultanate of Sulu and has to pay $15 billion. Obviously your knowlegde of the matter is very limited!
Please be reminded that the lease not sale was 5300 Mexican gold pcs not ringgit. The sultanate has all legal rights and proof of ownership and likewise proof of yearly lease w/c stopped in 2013, indeed a blessing in disguise. Malaysia has to abide by the arbitration rule.
Now World 🌎 sabah is Philippines 🇵🇭 territory period Victory ✌ to our Brothers and sisters Pilipino Muslims.
just a question?if sabah does belongs to malaysia then why does malaysia needs to pay rent to the sultan of sulu of the philippines?there is logic over this..
🤭😅😅😅😅😂😅😂
You pay what is the court decision according rule of court is not philippine court. Is happen in france there is no bias
Sabah ppl soon be a Pilipino ppl. 🇵🇭😁
@@donaldj3286 if people of sabahans don't want to be part of sulu 🇵🇭🧕 they're free to live in Malaysia 🇲🇾 land ! People of sulu will live there 😏😏😏🤔🙄🧕🧕🧕🤭🤭🤭🤣🤣😏🤣🤣
@@RANMAJUANHALF-23 then go out in Sabah. 🤣🤣 It's not yours you are just A Squatter.. go back to Kuala Lumpur easy as that before the court Freeze all your asset .😁
If you can't pay rent, why not move out ?
The fact that Malaysia acknowledge that they are paying rent means an acceptance that Sabah is not their property. A virtual contract is form as offer, acceptance and consideration is provided by Malaysia and Sultan of Sulo.
BIG CHECK
@Hope Lope it was suppossedly 5300 spanish gold but subsequently was changed to 5300 ringgit. thats what the sultanate is arguing thats why it ballooned to $15B. The payment shouldve been gold not ringgit.
@Hope Lope there is an agreement, that agreement was presented during arbitration that's why the heirs of sulu wins the arbitration and awarded.
And I ask you.. Why the arbitration court awarded the claim to the heirs of sulu if you think that there is no legal basis?
They're not paying RENT it was CESSATION MONEY evidenced by RECEIPTS.
correct and the fact that efforts to offer more money to the Sultanate was offered by the Malaysians after the heirs took this to court says a lot about how loose the Malaysian grip on this claim is.
Malaysians are like:
I live in an apartment owned by Philippines but stop paying monthly rental and made it my own and I don't want to give it back.
Filipino owner: ...... 😬
Exactly my thought!
Malaysia are ILLEGALLY SQUATTING on Philippine territory period. They are ILLEGAL SQUATTERS
Malaysian self proclaim territories
Exactly! Simple analogy 😅
Very simple & precise explanations!
Check your history woman from sultanate of Brunei ask for help of sultanate of sulu and as token sabah is the price given to the sultanate of Brunei to the sultanate of sulu the kiram family. We are not greedy we only claim what’s ours not the whole Malaysia.
IT IS SPECIFIED ON THE LEASE CONTRACT AGREEMENT SIGNED BETWEEN THE SULTANATE OF SULU AND THE BRITISH NORTH BORNEO COMPANY THAT ANY DISPUTE ON THE LEASE CONTRACT WILL BE SETTLED ON THE ARBITRATION COURT AND BOTH PARTIES AGREED. BE IT KNOWN TO EVERYBOBY THAT THIS IS A LEASE CONTRACT AGREEMENT, IT IS NOT AT TREATY AS WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE SAYING.
In short...Sabah is in the republic of the Philippines..historically Philippines Map has included sabah...even elementary graders can understand the situation...GREED is the root of everything..
Breached contact is also a criminal act of sovereignty against humanity
WELCOME SOON SABAH 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭
Yeah we need to return sabah to sulu sultanate a muslim monarchy and make sabah a strong kingdom of Islam in the region.
Sabah is a part of Philippines
Malaysian government the LandGrabber, also they are treated bad Filipinos living in Sabah,
Congratulations to the sultanate of sulu Philippines
@Hope Lope how did you owned sabah if the original owner is brunei
@Hope Lope checkmate
@@Qamarun.channel look your government having chaos, there fighting 😂😆😆😆😆😆😆 Malaysia get underestimate there neighbord country,they think are superior and intelligent 🤓🤓🤓
@Hope Lope if you really own Sabah, why do you have an annual payment for the sultanate of sulu? Be logical. If you are paying, it means you are leasing the land. The owner won’t pay a stranger if he/she owns the land. You keep on insisting on 1800s years but do you think this international tribunal is that stupid to make a decision without any valid reason? Don’t ask me about proof of documents I know you will ask this question. If you want documents supporting this claims, ask the international tribunal.
@Hope Lope the British company pays rent to the sultanate of sulu. The British company doesn't own it, it's the wrong doings of the British company and the Malaysian government.
Latest news as on 6th November 2024. Paris Supreme Court rejected Sulu's appeal to overturn previous Paris Court of Appeal decision which set aside and annulled Paris Court ruling awarding Sulu US$14.92B compensation. Since Supreme Court is the highest court, the decision is final and Malaysia won.
How can somebody invalidate the claim of the Sultanate of Sulu for SABAH, they acquire the land by sweat, tears, and blood, and somebody will say that Maylasia must find a way to invalidate the Sultanate of Sulu's claims. The people of SABAH must respect their elders knowing that the land was acquired and owned by the Sultanate of Sulu.
@Hope Lope , probably the best way to answer your questions is to check the latest arbitration award. im pretty sure that all the details are available. :)
@Hope Lope Hahaha this hope lope can't accept the fact that the sulu sultanate is the owner of sabah, and malaysia is just renting. Hahaha poor malaysia they claim the land that is not belong to them. Now malaysia si panicking because they never to pay the rent and it costs billions😂😂🤣
@Hope Lope The receipts that the Malaysian Government paid the lease to the Sultanate of Sulu.
It must
@Hope Lope because the Malaysian Government cheated. Payment should be in British pound, not Malaysian Ringgit.
Sabah, Philippines
how did Malaysia gained the Sovereignty? From whom?
Welcome to the Philippines 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭
@Hope Lope your narrative is baseless.
@Hope Lope the malaysian federation after independence inherited the least contract of north borneo companoy of the former british empire,the malaya federation was paying least til they stoped 2010 and sultanate protested and filed a case that are now they are winning
@Hope Lope the malaysian government knows that the contract they inherited is not a sovereign title,thats why the sabahans are worried that sulu claims over petronas assets may affect sabahs sovereignty as awhole and possibly de stabilize malayan federation,thats why they dont want to disscuss sabah sovereignty because itbwill always boil down to philippines having a solid stance on sovereignty right on sabah
@Hope Lope french court order the malaysian to seiz it assets which they have to follow according to the constitution because of the presented evidence of sulu
@Hope Lope british north borneo company is paying RM 5000 to sulu everyyear untill malaya federation declared independence included sabah which triggered indonesia and philippines claiming malaysia broke a deal on manila agreement resulting into indonesia invading malaysia
Please stop saying “self-proclaimed heirs” or to “those claiming as heirs” of the Sultanate of Sulu because that is showing disrespect to them. They Are The Rightful Heirs. You may google their family tree. Stop hinting otherwise. And this is Poetic Justice 🙏🏻God bless them.
Thats correct even the Arab monarchy and Muslims Royalties recognizes the Sultanate of Sulu how dare they questioned the legallity and Authority of the Sultanate of Sulu
Its just their old dirty tactics ..to discredit the Sultanate of their Name on it as a legal owner .
You don’t know anything. They were more than one person claiming legitimacy to the heir. Filipinos are missing so much really
@@litolito7570 exactly why Sultanate of Sulu should rule the whole Philippines. Why stop on Sabah when you can also have the House rule over the whole country. What a joke. You guys didn’t even give them autonomy in their own tiny island.
@@fab8490 and why would they do it ..? You dont know the whole system in PH govt ..thats why you talk about this about that ...as if you know our government ...and knowledgeable to our laws...you talking like an ignorant idiot..
Thank you very much, Roger Chin
indonesians want Filipinos as neighbors instead of Malaysians
indonesians would not mind philipines as border neighbors
It's because philippines and indonesia comes from one linage. And i have a question for you! Does Sarawak are part of indonesia right? Amd not malaysia?
ang malaysians at indonesians galing sa pilipinas
Well i agree with you brother. I have alot of friends from indonesia and they are so nice unlike the other neigbhor. 🤭
Absolutely right. As Filipina i can't say whats the difference between Indonesian and Filipinos from looks.
We are sisters and brothers.
Filipinos are more ethnically racially close to Indonesia because they are the latest group that came to Philippines via Balangay. The first group are the Malays then came the Indonis group . Dialects of Ilocano, Pangasinense , Kapampangan , Bicolano, Visayan etc.. have more in common in Indonesia
There is a time for the harvest , a time for a legal action , a celebration that the national court is on the side of the true Landlord which the Sultanate of Sulu...God bless our fellow country men who fights in a humblest manner...
Praise the lord ! The world is with
Kiram's Family! Sultan of Sulu ,moro
Pilipino , a man of true brave 😍 young at heart forever darling of
The good people of mindanao!
Just give it back its simple
Peaceful way to resolve this is to give it back to sultanate of sulu while it is being in the territory of Malaysia. But of course many will disagree like me. I still think it is rightfully the territory of Philippines.
Brunei and Singapore are also parts of Malaysia but they have their own autonomy since they are their own countries.
@@raikey2176 Those words are quite different. A country is an independent sovereign state. Autonomous means it has an independent jurisdictions and legal rights, but it is still part of the territorial rights of a particular country.
@Rai Key, FYI Brunei is much much older than Malaysia. Malaysia was only formed due to British presence and also land grabbing from Indonesian, Brunei and Philippine territory. Malaysia wasn't even supposed to be a country. Half of it should be part of Brunei and the other half should be Indonesian (not including Sabah since it is part of the Philippines).
@@spikespicegel5572 Yeah so if there should be anyone who should be land grabbing, they should be Brunei and the Philippines. Other Malaysians claim that the Sultanate of Sulu came from Johor in Malaysia disregarding the fact that the recent DNA study shows that the ancestors of Malaysians are the Igorots in the Cordilleran province of the Philippines who migrated to Malaysia thousands of years ago.
@@codelessunlimited7701 I said autonomy, not autonomous region. A country has an autonomy since it has its own laws and territories.
malaysia cannot change the fact that Sabah belongs to the Sultanate of Sulu, Philippines. now it is high time to return the land to its rightful owner.
If malaysia is renting sabah, why is malaysia talks as if it owns sabah? If the sultanate of sulu was shortchanged by malaysia the sultanate of sulu can anytime cancel the lease.
Why do you pay LEASE since over 100years ago to Sultanate of Sulu if you don't recognize the agreement.
Lease Treaty
@Hope Lope the problem is history
@Hope Lope sabah is not part of malaysia historicaly.
Ask brunie😁
@Hope Lope haha. Your embassy even constantly sent letter to Sultan's Family. You are pathethic liar.
@Hope Lope Here 18:23, listen carefully to your Sabahan lawyer u dummy
PETRONAS will now be named PHILTRONAS, because of this.
It will be Petron Philippines
ahahahahahah
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Sabah is in the PHILIPPINES and not in MALAYSIA....
Dr. Sun, you agree that Sabah was only under lease by paying RM5000 per year. Therefore, Sabah is not part of Malaysia. You even said that it should be around RM 50k arrears only. What about the natural resources of Sabah which Malaysia illegally getting. The oil, gas, lumber etc. And the damages in the eco system. Not to mention the human rights violations committed against the Pilipinos in Sabah.
Praise God, Lord Jesus, he is mighty to judge and avenge his people from injustice. Mightier than any proud god of a false prophet.
Philipino still delusional that they are free from Spain and america colonialism.
That doctor is very idiot. Land value is only 5000 ringgit. First time to know this kind of Idiocyncrasy!lol
Sorry to ask this, I'm just curious, if Sabah is Philippines and under lease by Malaysia, of course they have signed an agreement about rental. But as per their agreement did they state in the contract that Filipinos can't step to Sabah without passport?
@@hhsssytem8522 the contract between the sultanate of sulu and the British company was agreed upon in 1878. In the 1960s many Filipinos moved to Sabah encouraged by then Philippine President Diosdado Macapagal.
@@raceltd7927 So to be cleared you mean kung sino lang nakapag register by that time yun lang din ang i-issuehan ng citizenship?
It's time to terminate the contract and return it to the original owner.
The agreement was done before the creation of malesia. And therefore .the suveriegn right is not valid to argue....
(?)🤔 *why some of the nations like Malaysia try to DISREGARD their signed international laws and try to IGNORE international court ruling if these will be against on their interest... even can ignore contract of lease* 😫 *this action is very UNRELIABLE and somehow DISRESPECTFUL. Moreover, it weakens INTEGRITY...*
Absolutely right
Absolutely right
Where in the meaning of the word "Rent" can you not decipher?
"Tenants By Law," cannot claim a property as their own. It is common knowledge!
The Malaysian did not pursue because they know sultanate of sulu have proof or evidence who really own sabah from historical.
We are all brother's and sister's. I wish this will be solve asap peacefully. 🇵🇭
Only Indonesian and Philippines are only Brothers, Malaysia treat Filipinos as a low class Citizens.
Asap??? Decades have passed and Malaysia have hardheadedly claimed Sabah as their own.
You are a mad man.. go to Ukraine!
Brothers.. Sisters. Will be SOLVED. MANGMANG
@@ndor1429 Malaysia HAS. . SINGULAR. DUM B
Dr. Sun, "the other side", is the Philippines and the Heirs of the Sultanate of Sulu, our country is not claiming all of Sabah. The large part of it is yes, owned by Malaysia. The Heirs of the Sultanate of Sulu owns a part of Northern Sabah. Malaysia, for the longest time, is only paying "rent" with a meager sum. And don't you think that by paying rent, Malaysia recognizes the ownership of the Sultanate of Sulu. If you can"t pay rent, then give it back to the Heir of the Sultanate of Sulu.
Sultanate claim whole sabah.sabah is a small province in northern part of island shared with indonesia and malaysia.if u dont know
@@baldwin6944
it's there cercus story....
@@requiomaedwin2151 Sabah today are merger by 2 part half from territory from Sulu sultanate, lease forever(Malay:Pajak, until end of day), and half annexed from Brunei, just like Sarawak, more half of Sarawak taken by force from Brunei, Brunei are the one lost 90% of territory
Mirah Majilis - the heirs are not claimants THEY ARE THE OWNERS.
Majilis - YOU ARE SABAHAN, THEREFORE A FILIPINO. IF YOU DISOWN BEING FILIPINO THEN YOU CAN MOVE TO THE OTHER SIDE OF MALAYSIA. YOU CAN GET OUT OF NORTH BORNEO.
In other words Sabah belongs to the Sultanate of Sulu and Sulu is part of the Philippine Island. That's simple it is and that's very true.
and Sabah is from Sulu, believe it or not they are also Filipino citizen.
It is a default, the lease is no longer valid due to that default and Malaysia goverment should leave immediately. The rental will be skyrocketing high at this time.
The British-made translation of the original document is to blame. Whoever created that translation made this conflict. The original document, written in the native language, clearly states that Sabah was only leased. The English translation made by the British changed this to "ceded". Both initially understood the agreement as a mere lease. When the Philippines & Malaysia became independent states, the Philippines applied the original document, while Malaysia applied the English translation of the document. So its literally an "Original document vs a Translated document" scenario.
Also, according to one of the guest in the video, Atty Roger said that the best way for Malaysia to win this case is to invalidate the existing treaty used now by the Philippines. This means he knows that Malaysia will ultimately lose in court, & the only way to deflect that is to make-up some "historical" documents that do not exist. What a strange way to say they lost.
Nice observation👍
Yah right sadly the sulanate of sulu heirs has a documents represent in arbitration which is written in a native language of Malay and the word pajakan is used in there meaning in English translation lease not sold 😆
Sure but there is no sultanate of sulu anymore in the philippines. Even philippino government does not recognise any sultans if i am correct. The lease payment was meant to be paid to the sultanate which still hold the authority in Sulu. And Not to the descendants of this sultanate who wields no power.
@@syedputra5955 philippines recognise sultanate of sulu
@@syedputra5955 hmmmm 100% your have no knowledge of pilipino culture. First of all We have a Sultanate heroes.
Malaysia is paying for the lease of Sabah until 2013, then now question the credibility of the signatory? Come on Malaysia, the world is not that ignorant. Just pay the $15B and plead for a renewal of lease from the Sultanate of Sulu.
from the start Malaysia until 2013, you acknowledge the legitimacy of the contract but on 2013 you think you can get away from the claim of the Sulu Sultanate by not paying your lease, good job. Thank you Malaysia.
This clown is not even direct to the point.
The arbitrary decision was that Sabah was never sold but rather it was leased to a foreign businessmen.
The obvious one is that Malaysia has been leasing Sabah from Sultanate of Sulu.
This clown has stated the leasing payments but never said the reason why Malaysia was paying a lease agreement to the Sultanate of Sulu.
Third, why would Malaysia forcefully stops lease payments to Sultanate of Sulu.
Absolutely Right.. They've been in denial for so many decades while profiting from the Land they always knew isn't their own
@@dannybarcenas9701 Eviction is coming to a useless tenant Malaysia.
Malaysian Government occupied Sabah ILLEGALLY, It always belong to Sultanate of Sulu and belongs to the Philippines as a whole. You never had ancestral argument on that land.
@Hope Lope the proof is your government will pay sultanate of sulu 15billion dollar hahah
@@smallbutterfly786 Hahahaha!!! 😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂 👏👏👏👏👏
@Hope Lope do have also the proof that Malaysia has the ancestral claim on Sabba? The sultan of Sulu and the sultan of Brunei are brothers and not related to any one on Malaysia..
@Hope Lope the proof are these: #1 Pack your important stuff
#2 Buy some brain cells so we can understand each other (Ang hirap mo kasing intindihin )
#3leave sabah
That very simple than you thought.Well
@@smallbutterfly786 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
brother you dont want to be called land grabber; ask our the sultanate of brunei for illumination
Sabah is Philippines 🇵🇭Sabah is own by Brunei and later given to Philippines Sultan Of Sulu as a gift. Later rented by oil company and Malaysia to the Sultan of Sulu to exploit the natural resources of Sabah.
My ancestor was a tax collector for the Bruneian Sultanate, until the British North Company leased the area. So the claim that Sulu owned whole of Sabah is wrong!!!
@Hope Lope return the land you illegaly occupied.
Not the whole Sabah but only the East Coast Part of Sabah which was offered by the Bruneian. Before the Bruneian made an agreement with the British Conpany later. But the offer was denied by those Sulu. So this means Sulu don't owned any part or the whole Sabah. Please be accurate.
malaysian govt is keeping the secret they inherit a least contrct of the north borneo company of the british empire and keeping it a secret that they were paying rent till 2010 and now theyre shock to know just know they were indeed paying least!
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Calling the arbitral ruling illogical but then seeking legal advice both internal and external. The Philippines' claim over Sabah goes way back to the time of then President Diosdado Macapagal and the current President Marcos Jr will not just "let it drop" like what you are suggesting.
Original lease agreement price was 5000+ mexican gold bullion then malaysian convert to 5000+ malaysian ringit.
The fact that Malaysia has been paying rental fee, this means that Sabah is not yours. Simple logic...
Absolutely right.. The Sulu Sultanate leased Sabah to Austrian Baron Overbeck then transferred to British Prospector Alfred Dent then to British North Borneo and then to British Crown (Vehemently protested by then US Governor General to the Philippines- F.B. Harrison) And then finally with total disregard to the owner Sulu Sultanate the British included Sabah in the newly formed Malaya Federation in1963
Respect and follow the decision of the court.
Operation Merdeka🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭
Oh c'mon the State of Malaysia was created in September 16, 1963. The dealing was penned between The Sultanate of Sulu and British Company hundreds of years prior. You do your research.
I really wonder, from a simple renter and turned into a big time land grabber!! Return Sabah to the Sultanate of Sulu, Philippines diplomatically and peacefully which is not yours after all we are all the same Malay race and south east asians..
The only way for you to get Sabah back is WAR. Take it by force or simply leave it.
u never owned Sabah, u don’t know history. My ancestor collected taxes for sultanate of brunei not sulu. crazy greedy claims
@Hope Lope return the land you illegally occupied not to Philippines but to Sulu
@@merikantiquinapaglinawan5926 Come here and take it by force.
@@xhikato6729 hahaha brainless it will go to international tribunal use your head not by force hahaha Malaysia occupied ellegally in Sabah, Sabah Philippines soon the right owner the country Philippines
ASTRONOMICAL AMOUNT?!
So how much, in your opinion, should the rental fee for a land measuring 73,904 km2 be?
Check mate..
Welcome to the new Province of the Philippines.
Sabah, Philippines!
Welcome! 😂
@Hope Lope the dream will come true :))
@Hope Lope bitter 🙄🙄🙄🙄
I am a sabahan indigenous and im not interested to become a pilak..remember sabah is not just the land, its the people. Pilipin can make noise all they want but at the end of the day if u want to take over our land, blood will be spilled.
@@klb2018 correct Sabahan is not the just the land but the people. If Sabahans wish to follow Malaysia you are welcome to move to a legit Malaysian territory or a Sabah territory not part of the disputed lands. Just do a graceful exit, anyhow its not the whole Sabah claimed here only a part of it although its a large chunk.
Bring back SABAH,PHILIPPINES!
Philippines:Luzon,Visayas,Mindanao and SABAH!......
Sana ma claim na may lupain ang mga Ninono katunayan may parti na ako sa nasasakupan ng nort burneo sa Palau banggi dati kasi noon Philippines Sana ipagpatuloy ang claims mabuhay,
Done
Since Malaysia has stopped the lease payment since 2013, the lease agreement should be terminated and the heirs of sulu sultan regain back their land.
Time to give it back to the righful owners. You have benefited for such a long time.
The case is very simple:
Malaysia stopped paying their rent of 5,300 Mexican dollars as stated in the contract.
Once Malaysia, breached the agreement, the court assumed that the property goes back to the owners ( Sultan if Sulu).
Why $15 billion award to the Sultan of Sulu?
Because that’s the money the Sultan of Sulu should have made from the time Malaysia stopped paying rent.
Correction: $15B awarded because of convertion of 5,000 Mexican gold bullion a year. But this was reduced later on to 5,000 Malaysian ringgit when Sabah was annexed by the Federation of Malaysia. Gold stays in value but ringgit is affected by inflation. So the difference of value between the modes of payment considering inflation plus the rent stopped from 2013 til today