LEAKED SEASON 9 Hero Tier List (Massive Support Nerfs, Tank and DPS Buffs)

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  • Tierlist going over all heroes in Overwatch 2 Season 9. This is assuming the leaked patch notes are real. By far the biggest balance changes Overwatch 2 ever received, everything will change.
    Here is the full list of supposed changes: / season_9_leaked_patch_...
    Best Tanks, Best Healers and Best DPS in OW2 Tierlist
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  • @wheezy9676
    @wheezy9676 4 місяці тому +174

    this might be the biggest clown fiest of a patch but seeing rein and doom on top tiers and the snipers on the very bottom i know we gonna have a good meta🙏

    • @Avyel7
      @Avyel7 4 місяці тому +26

      Me and all my boys hate those widows ong💯

    • @lukasg4807
      @lukasg4807 4 місяці тому +4

      Tf? If this shit's real it's just nothing ever dies

    • @Notizblatt
      @Notizblatt 4 місяці тому +6

      @@lukasg4807wdym? damage for every hero got buffed too, there is just less healing output for supports and no more one shots. The new passiv healing will be weaker than the current support passive.

    • @edmgclone
      @edmgclone 4 місяці тому +8

      Tracer being a hard throw isn't the best though. Whenever tracers good the game is good. Whenever tracers not the game usually isn't.
      That's my biggest*signal* it's a concern.

    • @Avyel7
      @Avyel7 4 місяці тому +4

      @edmgclone tracers, sombra and widow have been meta for so long, it's high time it changed bro. They're boring characters.

  • @theredguy92
    @theredguy92 4 місяці тому +63

    I disagree on Bap/kiri. I think it will be harder to force immortality abilities bc of the larger hp pools but the loop of try to kill something, get denied, get punished/leave will be the same.

    • @purplerainPR
      @purplerainPR 4 місяці тому

      larger hp pools but less healing and more importantly less burst healing. other than tanks being completely targeted, killing supports is gonna be easier and you wont have to deal with raid boss supports during average fights. still annoying but its a step in the right direction

  • @nadavg1176
    @nadavg1176 4 місяці тому +56

    I am afraid the DPS passive will be too effective against tanks and will just make the role even more miserable than before (and it's already a bit bad)

    • @hadiknaish9817
      @hadiknaish9817 4 місяці тому +2

      It's only miserable if you aren't good at it tbh

    • @defaultdan7923
      @defaultdan7923 4 місяці тому +17

      @@hadiknaish9817literal opposite of the truth imo, the fun parts of tanking are the ones you aren’t allowed to do. good tanks sit there and do nothing because that’s the only way you don’t explode

    • @A_Jetsfan
      @A_Jetsfan 4 місяці тому

      Good tanks that play corners with good cool-down management will see this patch as a buff”gm+”. The average “stand in the middle of nowhere “ tanks will see this as a nerf

    • @Bkeeper331
      @Bkeeper331 4 місяці тому +6

      5v5 is a big part of why tank is so bad

    • @hadiknaish9817
      @hadiknaish9817 4 місяці тому +3

      @defaultdan7923 No, that's not true at all. I'm gm1 #230 on the NA ladder, and tank is the strongest role in the game if you know what you're doing. Hadidaddy#1576, if you wanna check. Tanks can take over an entire match with how much space and pressure they can apply. It can suck when they run something like Mei bastion and ur player rein or something, but that logic can be applied to any hero like if a tracer plays into torb brig. The role just doesn't feel weak if you know what you're doing.

  • @egordon7543
    @egordon7543 4 місяці тому +34

    Doom that high is wild, he got no Hp buff or shotgun buff, he’s gonna feel bad to get mild with, especially with the stun duration nerf they will walk away with more health

    • @Summonick2
      @Summonick2 4 місяці тому

      Yeah no increase to slam. So 1/4 of peoples hp down to 1/5 is rough, he’s very in and out, and I don’t think he will be able to stay in long enough to combat the higher hp pools.
      I’m thinking he needs 25% faster attack speed on his shotgun, and maybe an extra bullet or faster recharge rate on his bullets. So like 5 capacity instead of 4. This way, if he gets his empowered punch off, it still hurts, the stun duration could stay low, but he can still kill off of it unless they get saved.
      Right now I think in live patch they lowered the stun, which is fine whatever less CC time is what people want, but we can compensate by making him able to capitalize on that small window if he’s good enough.

    • @guilhermedecarvalhofernand1629
      @guilhermedecarvalhofernand1629 4 місяці тому +11

      Did you guys read the patch? He got HP buffs, increased damage on punch and the projectile size increase will affect his shotgun

    • @Summonick2
      @Summonick2 4 місяці тому

      @@guilhermedecarvalhofernand1629 yeah of course I did. But we play doomfist, I think. Dooms punch is not the main source of his damage, it almost all comes from the gun and slam. I understand that the projectile change will be slight, but doom almost always already is landing his shots on punch targets. You can’t really miss.
      Don’t get me wrong if they didn’t buff the punch he’d be F tier for certain, but the problem with doom is that currently doomfist relies on his shotgun most of the time to kill people, and the shotgun is going to be significantly weaker if everyone has more health, and his shots don’t do the anti effect like a dps. In addition his slam creates lower pressure and kill threat for his frequency of dives.
      Finally, meteor strike already had to be very accurate to get effective damage out, with the increase to hp, you won’t be able to meteor strike combo with slam in either order any longer. You have to do your punch now to create a kill threat, which is huge.
      Or you could think about it this way. Dooms gun used to be able to kill a 200 hp target in 4 shots if he hit all of it. With increased hp, doom still only has 4 shots, he can’t reload or have more shots like other heroes. He must wait. So all they need to do is either give him a 5th shot for the extra 50 hp, give him faster attack speed for the burst and thereby faster recharge rate, or give him faster recharge of his shots, which essentially would be the same as an extra shot anyways.

    • @purplerainPR
      @purplerainPR 4 місяці тому +1

      I think the projectile buff is significant enough to make him feel about the same. It kinda sucks they made difficult to play heroes even harder to play, but then again you have to remember if the enemy receives less healing then killing them is actually easier now. Most kills on doom, 9/10 times you arent just soloing the enemy backline, but more so youre playing with your team and finally see the support on half hp and you can now secure the kill. but they would heal to full hp before you could blink, now its easier to catch enemies lacking. so yeah I agree his punch buff is barely any damage compensation, but his projectile size increase should be good, dont know the exact numbers but doom is a character that if you cant land your shotgun he is useless anyway. @@Summonick2

    • @egordon7543
      @egordon7543 4 місяці тому

      @@guilhermedecarvalhofernand1629 needs more

  • @melee9183
    @melee9183 4 місяці тому +11

    While i dont think echo is buffed from this i do think because the health is higher, the beam actually becomes a lot more integral to her kit. There will be a lot more instances where a dps or support is under half health and you use beam to finish them off. Currently theres a lot of situations to take out the squishies WITHOUT the beam because theres no need to beam a target at 50 hp when you can shoot once or twice to get the elim.

  • @rarigate
    @rarigate 4 місяці тому +16

    Then they will eventually slowly increase all hero damage to compensate. Classic.

    • @therealsamtheman
      @therealsamtheman 4 місяці тому

      They already buffed Spam-zo, S76 will be next, then buffs to ult charge rate for Tracer....

  • @360noahscope
    @360noahscope 4 місяці тому +26

    "supports will cry bc they dont feel like gods anymore" I disagree solely on the basis that I can boop even more people off the ledges now. W patch notes 🙏

    • @RaidenKunii
      @RaidenKunii 4 місяці тому +6

      Us Lucio mains rejoice in these patch notes if they happen to be real 🙏

    • @sea1y.
      @sea1y. 4 місяці тому

      @@RaidenKuniiI may just have to go back to locking him in

    • @KingDanOfBarr
      @KingDanOfBarr 4 місяці тому

      Long have we waited brothers

    • @sea1y.
      @sea1y. 4 місяці тому

      @@KingDanOfBarr fr

  • @Maxarcc
    @Maxarcc 4 місяці тому +20

    My prediction on tracer is the exact opposite. I think you're right in that she will be relatively more vulnerable than the rest of the cast. However, the new DPS passive will make her a pest for backline supports. She will be an absolute menace in sapping their resources. The heal from her recall is also the only heal in the game that will not be affected by any heal reduction passive, because it doesn't count as a heal, and the one shots that still affect her will mostly be from heroes that became dog shit anyway (e.g. Hanzo). My prediction is down from S tier, to solid A tier.

    • @DontBeBad
      @DontBeBad 4 місяці тому +1

      5 seconds just for passive to kick in and 20h per second, if you get to like 50 and wait till you're like 190 that's 12 seconds out of combat.

    • @Maxarcc
      @Maxarcc 4 місяці тому +7

      @@DontBeBad i'm talking bout the reworked dps passive that causes heal reduction with damage.

    • @JesManVP
      @JesManVP 4 місяці тому

      Tracer is usually good for most metas

    • @DontBeBad
      @DontBeBad 4 місяці тому

      @@Maxarcc She was always forcing out CDs, depending on map and comp the dps passive in half of the situations isn't gonna change much. if monkey is meta then I feel like she could or would be meta.

    • @mhm1694
      @mhm1694 4 місяці тому

      Imo the reason monkey was meta because of tracer actually ​@DontBeBad

  • @weenewsboy
    @weenewsboy 4 місяці тому +3

    I thought widows drop off started at 40m and to hit the non one shot range at 250hp targets it would have to be more than 47.5 meters. That is still long but live was at like 60 meters before 1 shot dropped off on live so that is another 10 meters knocked off of one shot range.

  • @B0W1E
    @B0W1E 4 місяці тому +6

    Broo frogger is going to have a field day with this update 😂😂

    • @Savtheviking
      @Savtheviking 4 місяці тому

      I was literally thinking the same thing!

  • @doedelzak3914
    @doedelzak3914 4 місяці тому +7

    Does the season 9 patch reduce widow's fall off range? Because her current range is 40m not 30

    • @7bm7k06
      @7bm7k06 4 місяці тому +15

      No its just because everyone will have more health increased so the range to kill a 250 health hero is 30m instead of 50 for 200 hp

    • @knyt0
      @knyt0 4 місяці тому +2

      @@7bm7k06 just went into practice range and oneshot reaper (250 hp) at 47.5 meters, also widow oneshots 200 hp at 54.5 meters

    • @bena8805
      @bena8805 4 місяці тому +1

      @@knyt0 are you lying or is everyone else lying?

    • @knyt0
      @knyt0 4 місяці тому +1

      @@bena8805 test it yourself if you don't believe me my guy, everyone else is just repeating what they heard the strimmer say
      i mean come on widows falloff doesn't even START at 30 meters, let alone go under 250

    • @Summonick2
      @Summonick2 4 місяці тому +1

      @@knyt0you are correct, metro doesn’t play Whitacre

  • @racmanov
    @racmanov 4 місяці тому +3

    Every cheeze character and combo will get stronger: torb, satan, sombra, bastion, pharmercy.... everything will be better against tanks and harder to counter. This patch is massive dps buff. Tanks will stay as miserable as they were since damage creep was not addressed. Broken support abilities were not addressed. Heal creep was not addressed...
    Ow will cement itself as a game where you losenot because you were outskilled but because opponent plays more cheese.

  • @btugvd
    @btugvd 4 місяці тому +2

    did widow's range get nerfed in the patch, cause i dont remember it being only 30

    • @thatitalianguy3278
      @thatitalianguy3278 4 місяці тому

      With health increases her range affectively got nerfed

    • @btugvd
      @btugvd 4 місяці тому

      @@thatitalianguy3278 but didn't the falloff start at 40. Increased health wouldn't matter because reduced damage wouldn't start

    • @JungleMath
      @JungleMath 4 місяці тому

      it starts at 40

  • @bibomuthalib2632
    @bibomuthalib2632 4 місяці тому +2

    I think zen will be very powerful because of the 25% more damage taken and his extra life which helps him survive

  • @vendetasebastian8867
    @vendetasebastian8867 4 місяці тому +4

    How is the support role way weaker? Have they received any nerfs, or the immos changed?
    No, everyone will have more hp, and the heals and immos will still be here

    • @MetroOW
      @MetroOW  4 місяці тому +5

      The more health there is, the LESS valuable healing will become. And yes, they have been nerfed, most of the healing they all do will be 20% less, forcing them to heal even more and be able to deal less dmg instead.

    • @vendetasebastian8867
      @vendetasebastian8867 4 місяці тому +6

      @@MetroOW it's not a global nerf to the supports, just to the target of the DPS. And the DPS part from the support wasn't in their main interest to begin with, was just another thing they could do if their allies we're good, and they had a chance to pick up on a low HP enemy. This new narrative of them having all these bloated kits and dmg on top of it is so brain-dead to play.
      Also, kiriko Suzu , bap lamp, Ana nade not even addressed. And they reduced CD on their enhanced passive.
      How is this a nerf?

    • @MetroOW
      @MetroOW  4 місяці тому +3

      @@vendetasebastian8867 well you have to understand that the target that usually requires healing is the target that is being damaged. I do think supports on average will have to spend more time healing and will have less time for damage. We will see next season I guess :)

    • @idontgiveaf7ck
      @idontgiveaf7ck 4 місяці тому

      not for me, dmg over healing bot
      @@MetroOW

    • @j.w.213
      @j.w.213 4 місяці тому

      I don't get it either and I believe things turn out way different.

  • @guyman7312
    @guyman7312 4 місяці тому +6

    Is Yeatle working with blizzard on Wrecking ball rework? Man was he a big loser in this patch

    • @FPSPayback
      @FPSPayback 4 місяці тому

      Yes, It was said in a dev interview that he is top of the list for a rework, along with reaper. No timeline for when that will be released or even shown was said though.

  • @tortue_
    @tortue_ 4 місяці тому +2

    Immo field is much more stronger with the health increase since it allows you to keep a percentage of hp so you will be harder to kill after the lamp is gone, and bap does really well with keeping up dmg and heals. OP bap behind sigma with the zen for his discord is my prediction, dps is weird ashe+mercy might rule with sigma.

  • @nevermindthebull0cks
    @nevermindthebull0cks 4 місяці тому +2

    this is what I wanted, team fights that last forever and then even longer....... I miss dive.

  • @aSuperPi.
    @aSuperPi. 4 місяці тому

    Oh shoot I didn't know they were working with Yeatle on ball rework. Might be promising then.

  • @pawels5509
    @pawels5509 4 місяці тому +8

    This patch looks like it's supposed to come out on April 1st

    • @trafomft
      @trafomft 4 місяці тому

      nope its real lol

  • @hadiknaish9817
    @hadiknaish9817 4 місяці тому +5

    I CANT WAIT FIR SIG TO BE META FOR THE 3RD SEASON IN A ROW

    • @NotKalicoat
      @NotKalicoat 4 місяці тому +2

      OMG SAME, I LOVE THIS STUPID SHIELD BOT UNLIKABLE JUNKRAT HERO WITH A STUN THE SIZE OF A NUCLEAR MISSILE.

    • @truckmuncher8998
      @truckmuncher8998 4 місяці тому +1

      I’m completely fine with an eternal sigma meta

    • @hadiknaish9817
      @hadiknaish9817 4 місяці тому +1

      @truckmuncher8998 For the tank, it's insanely boring, and in the rank that I play at the entire game just goes into the hands of dps to break stalemates.

    • @NotKalicoat
      @NotKalicoat 4 місяці тому

      @@truckmuncher8998 didn't we complain about this and the end of overwatch 1? 🤔. I always hate playing against him. So boring to play against

  • @Summonick2
    @Summonick2 4 місяці тому

    I’m suspecting doomfist will be very weak at first but like wrecking ball can be rebalanced. He won’t be able to anti heal people like the dps, his slam went from doing 1/4 people hp to 1/5. The punch is better, but it’s not a big source of his damage. He needs his gun to be looked at I would guess, and meteor strike perhaps a damage tweak.
    I’d make his gun just able to shoot 25% faster attack speed based on these changes.

  • @gunsmarkgrub5845
    @gunsmarkgrub5845 4 місяці тому +1

    as a mercy player i am so relieved they buffed her self sustain to compensate for the new dps passive making tracer/sombra/genji more powerful

  • @jaylennash5058
    @jaylennash5058 4 місяці тому +3

    I respect the buffs that they finally gave to Hanzo as a Hanzo Juan trick but I really don’t feel like it’s enough they need to keep in mind there’s still a drawback time on his boat not being able to one shot is pretty much going to fuck the character overall regardless on his stormy robot, his stormers should’ve always been this damage to begin with to be honest

    • @Zeddrandom1
      @Zeddrandom1 4 місяці тому

      but the sad thing is now more one shot 😢

  • @SwolleRat
    @SwolleRat 4 місяці тому +1

    Junkrat main here, i dont do much flanking but the problem is that the one thing that makes junk a high skill ceiling character is being able to airshot, which is the one reason u can play him in high ranks. getting rid of that is just nerfing him even more from his position rn in the game. Junks been in a nerfed state for so long and there are so many issues with his tire rn but i fear season 9 will just make him unplaybale

    • @PastVortex
      @PastVortex 4 місяці тому

      same here and the problem is no one is even talking about it a lot like junkrat got the heaviest nerf even tho his projectile is bigger still so bad now it's like all the characters are reaper now

  • @therickeffect7466
    @therickeffect7466 4 місяці тому +1

    For 1 widows dmg falloff starts at 40 meters, not 30. So she will oneshot at that range on circuit royal. Secondly I dont think tracer will be useless. Definitely not as good as she is rn since after the patch she wont be able to oneclip unless some headshots are mixed in, which with the buff to projectile sizes will make it easier. And even at something as seemingly insignificant as 175 hp it still shuts down alot of her counters. Such as mei, ashe, torb, simply bc ashe and mei cant oneshot headshot with scope or icicle secondary and that 25 hp gives you a bit more time to take out torbs turret bc you have more ho to work with. Even bap wont oneshot headshot(which he can if he lands all 3 bullet bursts as headshots.

  • @Baumfall
    @Baumfall 4 місяці тому +2

    why they do me like that with ball

  • @P0rk666
    @P0rk666 4 місяці тому +1

    Imagine Lifeweaver planting trees on a 20 second cd. LMFAO.

  • @Bkeeper331
    @Bkeeper331 4 місяці тому +2

    So blizzard said no sniper one shots but op support abilities are still cool? 🙄

  • @Drzewo75
    @Drzewo75 4 місяці тому +1

    Junkrat main and I'm gonna have to practice to even make it thinkable

    • @dominicandrews4153
      @dominicandrews4153 4 місяці тому +1

      nah no amount of pratice is goin save us , it was a good run but rip junk

  • @MetroOW
    @MetroOW  4 місяці тому +5

    Do you think the patch is real? :)

    • @doedelzak3914
      @doedelzak3914 4 місяці тому +6

      Has any overwatch creator under NDA talked about the leaks? No? Then it's probably real

    • @chr.ist.ian_v2517
      @chr.ist.ian_v2517 4 місяці тому +1

      I sure hope it is

    • @julicomo9815
      @julicomo9815 4 місяці тому +1

      I hope the projectile invrease is scrapped.

    • @vctr9642
      @vctr9642 4 місяці тому

      There is no way

    • @julicomo9815
      @julicomo9815 4 місяці тому +5

      Hard disagree with your take on immortality. People will just use those abilities on themselves.

  • @ChickenLord9
    @ChickenLord9 4 місяці тому +3

    Tracer in dogshite is sad

  • @lordsiis8201
    @lordsiis8201 4 місяці тому +3

    Honestly for me the game is getting so stale that wild changes like this are welcome if they’re willing to go back if this ends up being really bad

  • @simonjohnson3424
    @simonjohnson3424 4 місяці тому

    In a way Tracer gets a 50hp buff and not just 25. Her recall can in some situations basically give her an entirely new healthbar. Also the projectile increase is great. When I play Tracer the only reason I struggle with getting kills sometimes is missing 3 bullets or something which just feels annoying as hell. I know the other heroes get more health, but I think it will make her more fun to play. At least for me

  • @wesleyblack8302
    @wesleyblack8302 4 місяці тому

    How did zar not get c tier when she didnt get any hp. I thought issue was getting close enough to beam, not hitting the beam.
    Be nice if they buff right click by 0.05 instead and gave us 50 shields

  • @DeikRoschmann-bf1rj
    @DeikRoschmann-bf1rj 4 місяці тому +1

    Yeah hanzo became so shit with the hp change its kinda sad

  • @Cptwinter
    @Cptwinter 4 місяці тому

    As a support player i feel this patch would present a lot more meta picks than others( flexibility wise) esp zen is getting a new breath of fresh air tho the decrease healing intake when getting damaged is just brain dead to me tbf hope this is the only thing they’ll keeping out from this patch

  • @boredtolife7879
    @boredtolife7879 4 місяці тому +4

    How is Cass going to be that good all of a sudden?

    • @Summonick2
      @Summonick2 4 місяці тому +1

      I think he’s arguing that extra tankiness is useful, and he puts down a lot of damage and is less weak to the longer range burst heroes.
      I don’t really agree, but that’s what he’s thinking. I mean technically, you lose your headshot body shot combo, but at the same time headshots become easier to hit and still do 140?

    • @boredtolife7879
      @boredtolife7879 4 місяці тому

      @@Summonick2 What's the timestamp where he gives his thoughts and provides and argument about how he placed Cass?

    • @Summonick2
      @Summonick2 4 місяці тому

      @@boredtolife7879 he didn’t, I’m just assuming that would be the reasoning because he did it so fast.

  • @moriopl6176
    @moriopl6176 4 місяці тому +1

    Now thats hype

  • @jagbanks6280
    @jagbanks6280 4 місяці тому +1

    Its a bit sad that diving widow will be harder (reddit lucio) but i like that my team will need even less healing

    • @narancia2815
      @narancia2815 4 місяці тому

      she has now 50 less hp min than everyone else if anything she needs 250hp

  • @ozzyism7148
    @ozzyism7148 4 місяці тому

    As a brig main for the longest time this makes me happy.

  • @BigOppenheimer
    @BigOppenheimer 4 місяці тому

    I do not like the 20% less healing part of the update and as a widow main some of the new stuff makes me sad but outside of that I kinda a good update (or atleast I think so)

  • @Nathan-ze8pl
    @Nathan-ze8pl 4 місяці тому +1

    I’m not excited for this meta at all. As someone who plays support and tank, it just doesn’t seem fun at all.

  • @Kyoriiz
    @Kyoriiz 4 місяці тому +1

    Huge genji buff, since most dps will have 250+. It would take swing dash swing to kill someone even with nano blade + faster swing.

    • @nevs_h2002
      @nevs_h2002 4 місяці тому

      I dont think he does 250 dmg with nanoblade cause blade is 110 + 50 dash 1.5x with nano is 240 hp.

    • @Kyoriiz
      @Kyoriiz 4 місяці тому

      @@nevs_h2002 I was talking about after the patch. He does 240 with nano blade right? Most characters will have 250+ health. Meaning genji would still need to swing twice and dash to kill someone EVEN with nano blade.

  • @chkensammich
    @chkensammich 4 місяці тому

    flanking sumperjumping bastion is barack

  • @itsipsn8128
    @itsipsn8128 4 місяці тому +8

    If all this actually happens, i, and probably a lot of other people, will stop playing the game

    • @DeprogAxA
      @DeprogAxA 4 місяці тому +14

      Bye

    • @truesparta9722
      @truesparta9722 4 місяці тому +1

      @@DeprogAxAyours lose too Then u Will have a dead game

    • @steavyV
      @steavyV 4 місяці тому +1

      yeah. this game is gonna be so miserable and it is not even balanced for many dps heroes

    • @Dragoon-9
      @Dragoon-9 4 місяці тому +4

      @@steavyVgame is boring and meta is stale AF it's time for a switch up

    • @GalenMarekOfficial
      @GalenMarekOfficial 4 місяці тому +1

      Many, many will leave after this patch, it will probably be a dumpsterfire if they leave it like that. But ig theyll damage control eventually.

  • @Lovelykarma0909
    @Lovelykarma0909 4 місяці тому

    Supp role isn’t gonna be played as much by me. I’ll be Dps now lol

  • @crucialspectre7401
    @crucialspectre7401 4 місяці тому

    Personally I think doom didn't really get anything. He got enough to basically keep him the same because everyone else got hp buffs. It's like getting a 3% raise at work meanwhile inflation went up 4%

  • @thescaryturlte7821
    @thescaryturlte7821 4 місяці тому

    new dps meta: pick soldier and tap every character every 2 seconds, 20% healing reduction for the entire enemy team

    • @polar6066
      @polar6066 4 місяці тому

      that would be better for moira honestly, soldier just tapping is ass

  • @Bighoodiekid
    @Bighoodiekid 4 місяці тому

    THis is either going to age wonderfully or terribly, there is no in between

  • @musicxxa6678
    @musicxxa6678 4 місяці тому +2

    nah. widow will be best and tanks will be terrible. expect ramattra to be worst actually. rein will be sick tho. Tracer and Echo will still be good. Tracer doesn't need to one clip. Echo's burst will be more valuable. dmg boost and discord will be extremely good bringing all the breakpoints back.

  • @Mediados
    @Mediados 4 місяці тому

    I havn't played OW in years, but seeing the old chad Reinhardt still as one of the best tanks is really something.

  • @MoombahtonVibes
    @MoombahtonVibes 3 місяці тому

    i play godlike with Orisa for me it feels A tier

  • @user-1993popcorn
    @user-1993popcorn 4 місяці тому

    Widow/cassedy who got the lowest kda and win rate in the game statestics, and still they give widow only 25hp buff compared to the others? Kinda wierd.. Perhaps an widow rework in season9 is in blizzards mind. Widow was always a fragile hero and in start of season 9 she won't be a feared hero anymore aswell, and might not fulfill her title of being a sniper/assasin anymore even when those players who hit their shots play her.
    Guess many will go Ashe as an replacement of widow, unless they want or accept the challenge.

  • @aSuperPi.
    @aSuperPi. 4 місяці тому

    Main supports are definitely gonna be the best supports since they can focus on their other utilities instead of healing now

  • @annadoesart1829
    @annadoesart1829 4 місяці тому

    I’m betting that everyone is bamboozled this is actually the next quick play hacked just watch. 😂

  • @lingodo._.1142
    @lingodo._.1142 4 місяці тому +1

    Overwatch has become Paladins now

  • @yeshmmm4004
    @yeshmmm4004 4 місяці тому +1

    Rien S? I punch through that shield, mid

  • @ssjcuatro4016
    @ssjcuatro4016 4 місяці тому

    i have high suspicion these season 9 notes aren’t real. i really hope they are real but i doubt it ngl

  • @spry9953
    @spry9953 4 місяці тому

    I already the current hog pharmercy meta

  • @flvkiki.-
    @flvkiki.- 4 місяці тому

    DID I REALLY SEE TORB IN S????
    my dream finally comes true🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @dejohn8529
    @dejohn8529 4 місяці тому

    I'll be expecting a longer queue time when playing Tank or DPS now. Nobody in their right mind is going to queue up as a support anymore.
    Only Lucio is going to be valuable AND fun to play rest is just decoration.

  • @ahmedsyed847
    @ahmedsyed847 4 місяці тому +4

    ok

  • @noahhughes121
    @noahhughes121 4 місяці тому +2

    Finally people are ranking kiriko lower, now dps mains can stop bitching 🙏

  • @theinfamousbrothers6039
    @theinfamousbrothers6039 4 місяці тому +1

    doom in A ? zebra need to stop bullyin them streamers

  • @r3so1ute
    @r3so1ute 4 місяці тому

    going to be such a dumpster fire, get ready for 5 min team fights

  • @johnnymasterson7530
    @johnnymasterson7530 4 місяці тому +1

    Rein is not gonna be good. Yea shield might help a bit, but projectiles are bigger, more things will hit his shield, everything lives longer, so more abilities being poured into his shield. Plus he received no other buffs.
    Edit: i stand corrected. His buffs arent that crazy

    • @DontBeBad
      @DontBeBad 4 місяці тому

      his shield is so damn big, you miss that thing more than once then your aim must be ass. Cd will always be the same length unless they change it, its actually gonna be better for rein based off those notes as he gets more damage compensation for the hero hp buffs unlike other heroes

    • @johnnymasterson7530
      @johnnymasterson7530 4 місяці тому +2

      "If you miss that thing more than once then your aim must be ass"
      Exactly. The issue is damage is so high that by the time you really get to the fight as Rein your shield is already about busted. A Rein without his shield is a dead one, especially with DPS damage causing heal nerfs meaning your support cant keep you alive while enemy bastion/torb/turret go brrrrrrr. On paper Rein looks good, but i feel like when executed Rein will still be dogshit. Execpt lower medal ranks

    • @johnnymasterson7530
      @johnnymasterson7530 4 місяці тому +2

      And that pains me as a rein main

    • @DontBeBad
      @DontBeBad 4 місяці тому

      @@johnnymasterson7530 Torb does not go brrr against shields, only bastion. If your shield is getting broken before the fight and there's no bastion, I don't think you're using your shield well.

    • @johnnymasterson7530
      @johnnymasterson7530 4 місяці тому +2

      @@DontBeBad its used in junction with the armor health rein has as well as playing into natural cover. You already mentioned its nearly impossible to miss the shield, but now if you lower your shield to allow your armor to eat the damage, the dps passive weakens the healing you get. Enemies are gonna live longer with larger health pools and bigger projectile size meaning more overall damage. I just dont believe Rein is gonna be that relevant still. To many better choices. Except in lower medal ranks.

  • @fidofx2189
    @fidofx2189 4 місяці тому

    i really hope this patch doesnt go through/ isnt true. If this is as fun as i think it is it might actually kill overwatch, i played through every horrible meta since 2016, this might be the last stroke , i might have to switch games.

  • @edmgclone
    @edmgclone 4 місяці тому

    After hearing quite a few ppl my stance. Tanks cant kill anything and they will feel worse even if stronger. (Even if same kills as before cause longer ttk)
    Dps will probably get healed less *like in ml7s test on exactly less healing* supports heal botted tanks, granted it was 50% not 20% but same results are likely. Dps will probably feel they damage more but into the fight are just not recieving support .
    Flex Supports will either heal bot and feel like you cant influence a game or just dps to initiate all fights since damage is more valuable than healing (by 20%) *rational*.
    If that happens ttk is longer but sustain will be shorter.
    Main supports probably wont feel anything. Seems stable/ similar in role.
    Just an opinion ofc, either way testing things both good and bad is healthy. For a while it will be good. Atleast 1 maybe 2 seasons but in the long term im not too sure.

  • @Kagara
    @Kagara 4 місяці тому

    i really hope this patch doesnt go through/ isnt true. If this is as fun as i think it is it might actually kill overwatch, i played through every horrible meta since 2016, this might be the last stroke , i might have to switch games.
    at this point i just want double shield ow1 back even that was better.

  • @thefbiguy6868
    @thefbiguy6868 4 місяці тому

    maybe now we can actually eliminate an orisa

  • @Ahmed_Saad_
    @Ahmed_Saad_ 4 місяці тому +1

    im a widow main and tracer secondary....

  • @caleb_mezi
    @caleb_mezi 4 місяці тому

    I don’t think all of this patch will be part of the season 9 patch too much of a drastic change to the game in a small amount of time

    • @NotGedas
      @NotGedas 4 місяці тому +2

      I think it needs to be all at once or else the game breaks, imagine the HP increase without the dps passive that decreases the heals or vice versa. It might not come live right now but if it does some day I'm pretty sure I'll be in it's entirety

    • @steavyV
      @steavyV 4 місяці тому

      i think these changes brake the game
      @@NotGedas

    • @NotGedas
      @NotGedas 4 місяці тому

      @@steavyV sorry, I meant that it'll break harder if they do it halfway 😂

  • @xfuri_09
    @xfuri_09 4 місяці тому

    Genji is going to be trash during this season. He is already throwing shurikens made of paper, and now he did not get any damage buff, so he is not going to be able to kill anything. And the best part is - HIS NANOBLADE COMBO IS GOING TO BE TRASH AS WELL. He won't be able to oneshot anything but tracer and widow - his slash and dash combo deals only 240hp. So, blizzard gives everyone more hp, but doesnt think about actually recompansating this with giving some dmg.
    I don't understand it.

  • @knyt0
    @knyt0 4 місяці тому +1

    Just went into practice range and oneshot reaper (250 hp) at 47.5 meters, also widow oneshots 200 hp at 54.5 meters

  • @Anput777
    @Anput777 4 місяці тому

    If this patch is really this game really is turning into paladins. They’re making it easier to hit shots, more health, and what sounds kinda like cauterize?

  • @Rush9999
    @Rush9999 4 місяці тому +1

    I think lucio will be absolutely hard throw tier now, you can't take a 1v1 with anyone anymore and you basically have no impact on the fight because they didn't buff his regular damage what so ever...
    Coordinated play is different ofcoarse but for the majority of people he sucks.

    • @lordsiis8201
      @lordsiis8201 4 місяці тому

      They didn’t buff his dmg but imo the hp buff is huge on him, more so the on other characters since he’s so slippery and has constant regen, + faster projectile is a pretty big buff, also bigger boop is actually massive, think about how many times you get a big boop but they just barely remain on the ledge, if this is real I can’t wait to try him out

    • @Rush9999
      @Rush9999 4 місяці тому +1

      @@lordsiis8201 Faster projectile? did they actually mention that, do you mind copypastin the lucio changes because I genuinely didn't see any changes bout his primary fire please.

    • @lordsiis8201
      @lordsiis8201 4 місяці тому

      @@Rush9999 mb i meant bigger projectiles not faster

  • @Korvmannen
    @Korvmannen 4 місяці тому

    Remember when you picked soldier to shoot down the Reinhardt barrier? Barely me either. But I think it will feel more like "the good old days" than ever in OW2.

  • @jonathankigozi3373
    @jonathankigozi3373 4 місяці тому

    THIS IS NOT A DRILL, THERE WAS A BOOP BUFF!!! WE RIDE A DAWN

  • @marcels.4774
    @marcels.4774 4 місяці тому

    Tracer this bad? She cant be oneshotted by mei and ash anymore, also the hitscansize buff ist good for her. I would say she is b tier or smth

  • @midasfury6165
    @midasfury6165 4 місяці тому

    "mei is getting no changes" only another 50 health on top of the hardest to kill brawl dps in the game

  • @lukasg4807
    @lukasg4807 4 місяці тому

    If these leaks are real I'm probably quitting. Wildest shit I've ever seen.
    Doom without the possibility even of getting a kill quickly will be terrible, extra HP doesn't matter, it's CC that kills you anyways. Genji blade without nano is going to be even worse. Immort abilities are going to be even stronger with healing not being a viable way to save them. It's the nothing ever dies orisa meta except now you're playing different heroes who never die.

  • @lukasg4807
    @lukasg4807 4 місяці тому

    If these leaks are real I'm probably quitting. Wildest shit I've ever seen.

    • @dylthegod9984
      @dylthegod9984 4 місяці тому

      Are u also a hanzo main? They nuked him😐

    • @arshavin_fs
      @arshavin_fs 4 місяці тому

      @@dylthegod9984im a big hanzo main, i only play hanzo, i started playing r6 after 2 years few months ago im ready to quit this game if they do my boy like that

    • @lukasg4807
      @lukasg4807 4 місяці тому

      @@dylthegod9984 no, genji, doom & tracer. Anyone with a shred of intelligence though can tell these are an awful idea. Sounds like a bigger change than ow2

  • @weenewsboy
    @weenewsboy 4 місяці тому +1

    I think no support s tier after this patch. It effectively balanced them down to A with that tier being Lucio, Mercy, Zenyatta, Bapt. B tier being Moira, LW, Ana, possibly Kiri as her suzu will get the boost when cleansing dps passive but I think she will be high c tier. Then mid c like you said Illari.

  • @surice8928
    @surice8928 4 місяці тому

    Honestly? me see reinhardt S, me happy, me dont care about balance.

  • @amuselessharry6978
    @amuselessharry6978 4 місяці тому

    I want to watch kiriko get more nerf, bigger hit box and heal/ suzu nerf, just want her to cry xD

  • @matthewsuarez4536
    @matthewsuarez4536 4 місяці тому

    Junk rat is hard thought his kit is useless

  • @Yorishiriamori
    @Yorishiriamori 4 місяці тому

    The strategy is to mess the game so much that players wont know what the meta is, and then it will be fun cuz nobody knows anything, like its a new game
    And then when we find metas and start get annoyed, we scrumble the whole stuff again to make players lose track of whats meta lol

  • @wusaint
    @wusaint 4 місяці тому +4

    Think I'm probably gonna stop playing this season if this leak is legit. Things should die. I don't wanna sit there in a poke/sustain meta.

  • @thebunktacoman8997
    @thebunktacoman8997 4 місяці тому +1

    Metro Symetra unranked to gm

    • @polar6066
      @polar6066 4 місяці тому

      he tried and couldnt do it iirc

  • @crucialspectre7401
    @crucialspectre7401 4 місяці тому +3

    9:47 man every other player who isn't support is so happy, can't wait to enjoy this one season until all the whiny support mains get their way again and the cycle restarts like it did starting around season 4

    • @DontBeBad
      @DontBeBad 4 місяці тому

      until immortalites get removed and they make it a winston genji tracer meta then I can say I am happy

  • @Poopkipp
    @Poopkipp 4 місяці тому

    I know you're happy about Junk Rat being less good lol

  • @penguingobrrbrr353
    @penguingobrrbrr353 4 місяці тому +3

    Great, pharah-mercy combo is already busted in below Masters. Imagine doing this. Every game pharah-mercy and you can't play your favorite characters. Game is dead.

  • @blkc744
    @blkc744 4 місяці тому

    I think we all believe too much in what wanted say. Is not sure, cuz like that noting will die and genji or every skilled hero I'll be dog shit u can only use bastion or phara or nothing will die match will last forever.

  • @ihassquidhatt5219
    @ihassquidhatt5219 4 місяці тому

    no one tell him its not real

  • @jonstokes1832
    @jonstokes1832 4 місяці тому +1

    This makes this patch seem okay ngl

  • @brandonh558
    @brandonh558 4 місяці тому

    This is so wrong I'm assuming this is a meme

  • @lucian7639
    @lucian7639 4 місяці тому

    Not the toxic dps ur to gm streamer.

  • @waddlez7192
    @waddlez7192 4 місяці тому +3

    dragonblade will continue to be so bad. I can't believe they didn't buff the damage on it

    • @nanossz
      @nanossz 4 місяці тому

      genji mains are suffering right now

    • @n0nac481
      @n0nac481 4 місяці тому +1

      right it should have been 125 or 130 so that you could still 2 slice 250hp heroes. I know they want to get rid of burst dmg in the game or weaken it but dragonblade is an ultimate, so having insane burst dmg on that shouldn't be a problem.

    • @steavyV
      @steavyV 4 місяці тому

      widow, genji, hanzo all needs to be buffed.

  • @wish5615
    @wish5615 4 місяці тому

    Might not play dps at all this patch, if tracer is dog then the meta sucks