I read a lot of negative comments about combat sports in terms of their effectiveness in street fighting. Well, I will not engage in such a discussion, as I am not an expert in all these types of violence. But when I watch these combat sports shows, I greatly enjoy the agility of movement and the beautiful interaction between strength, speed, and balance. An amazing mixture of physics, philosophy and wisdom. Isn't this enough to enjoy what we see, or must we engage in street fighting in order to know the value of things?
Special forces guy was saying combat sports are just as ineffective as Kata in real combat since real combat also has biting, eye gouging, kicking the balls, etc. to kill with all available means without any restrictions.
@yootoobvyooer I am in no way special forces, but that's an insanely stupid take. You're effectively saying a professional mma fighter would have the same odds against the average joe without their training. Combat sports like boxing, muay thai, jujutsu, wrestling, kickboxing, lethwei, etc, may not train you to specifically block an eye gouge, but they teach you how to defend yourself against many other attacks, and someone who can box well is much less likely to get their eyes taken out, training head movement, footwork, angle and level changes for hours upon hours every week will lessen the chances of you being hit accurately. the same goes for any other art that focuses specifically on combative ability, as well as other arts like like karate, which focus both on art and Combat, although they are usually inherently less effective
As a non practitioner of this discipline, I found it hard to choose between these two ladies. I just absorbed all the power and grace of their movements. They both are winners in my untrained eyes.
Please, camera and edition crew... stop it with the top half takes and closeups. We want to see the whole body movement not the face :/ It is a full body expression, not only the arms...
Very beautiful..thanks for post it..only Just a reflection... I observe that the "kiai" has become... just another "part of the show", simply... and I think that the kiai should be an explosion of energy... not a scream "to scare "... there is a martial art that perfects "kiai-jutsu"... well it was just a note... thank you.
Combat sports effectiveness in street fights is actually pretty good its just people who learn martial arts are more disciplined and know when and where they have to use them or hold back.
When I see a Chantayara Kushanku, it's hard to not compare with Rika Usami's which is perfect, whereas Saeko Azuma's looks great, but FOR ME she puts to much strength and intensity. Maho Ono's kata is way more balanced in term intensity, sharpness, smoothness. That's why i'd choose Ono for the win.
Tai Chi is more like slow Kung Fu than slow Karate. But at the highest levels of the martial arts, they are all teaching a lot of the same moves and techniques. Lower level Karate is strikes, but at higher levels, has the same locks, holds, and momentum redirection as Aikido and Jiu Jitsu (Japanese not Brazilian where focus is on grappling).
@@ViolentCircus, Chantayara Kushanku, also Shito-Ryu, named for Chatan Yara, lived 1668-1756, one of the first to teach Chinese martial arts in Okinawa, which eventually became karate. Shito-Ryu is considered one of the four main foundational styles alongside Wado-Ryu, Shotokan, and Goju-Ryu. It stands out for more extensive use of cat stance.
maho ono... theres shadows of mantis in some of her moves... there was step sequence almost 3step arrow, then the extended spear hand restrike, ofc there is logic from application with all styles leading to many similarities. without a doubt ono discipline has more inyo on top of her excellent presentation.
Je ne comprends pas pourquoi les athlètes crient si hystériques les noms des katas qu’ils vont exécuter, qui sans hystérie n’est pas possible? Je pense qu’en arts martiaux, il n’y a pas de place pour l’hystérie. Et vous pensez quoi?
one issue with karate is that on a global/western stage, the western announcers know nothing/little about karate and don't explain which style of karate is being performed. if they did it, or the tv program had a 2-minute or so explanation, then western viewers wouldn't be so critical.
We could do without the verbal commentary while the Katas are going on. It may be amusing for you behind the microphone, but not for us viewers, thanks.
Wushu taolu / forms are way harder, I don't get why katas' following is so much bigger. And Karate's based on Kung Fu. This is coming from a big Karate fan and practitioner. I tried wushu and it's basically gymnastic, you have to train since young age or you have no chance to do even 50% of it. With kata I feel it is possible to do 80-90% of what these athletes can do even if you start at age 30.
You're a karate fan and practitioner and you think that a 30 year old starting in Karate can do 90% of what these women can do? I taught children and adults for years and I can tell you that no adult, 30 years old with no prior martial arts training can ever attain the level of performance that these women are at. These women have been training in Karate since they were children and hit their stride in competition when they are in their 20s. What McDojo do you train at? Wushu is a sport invented by the Chinese government in the 70s to revive Chinese martial arts. It is primarily a gymnastic, acrobatics based sport with some Gung Fu elements tossed in. Nothing that resembles actual existing traditional Gung Fu. Karate kata is mostly all derived from original Southern Chinese Gung Fu forms taught to Okinawans in the late 1800s in Fuzhou, China, and or Chinese who came to Okinawa and taught Gung Fu, most related to White Crane Boxing. The Okinawans stripped down the original Gung Fu forms to be as simple, direct and effective as possible. Kata is similar to shadow boxing, practicing techniques while moving. Competition kata is purposefully and dramatically slowed down to demonstrate power, speed, directional changing, jumping and switching stances, breathing, exact form and execution of many different techniques, blocks, strikes, punches and kicks.
I can appreciate the dedication- as far as excitement it’s pretty dull. Imagine years of dedication for just that….??! Seriously? Where are the fancy kicks?
Is Olympic kata only karate? They all look the same style. When I was a kid and competed, we would go to tournaments where you would have a dozen different martial arts forms competing.
I could do without the commentator going on about what seemed like nothing of any significance. It was almost like he was filling the space, but not saying anything.
I read a lot of negative comments about combat sports in terms of their effectiveness in street fighting. Well, I will not engage in such a discussion, as I am not an expert in all these types of violence. But when I watch these combat sports shows, I greatly enjoy the agility of movement and the beautiful interaction between strength, speed, and balance. An amazing mixture of physics, philosophy and wisdom. Isn't this enough to enjoy what we see, or must we engage in street fighting in order to know the value of things?
its only the fat kids that say that
Lit, por fin alguien lo dice, si la gente tiene tantas ganas de ver sangre vayan a una carnicería.
a good debate @@sweetprincess5206
Special forces guy was saying combat sports are just as ineffective as Kata in real combat since real combat also has biting, eye gouging, kicking the balls, etc. to kill with all available means without any restrictions.
@yootoobvyooer I am in no way special forces, but that's an insanely stupid take. You're effectively saying a professional mma fighter would have the same odds against the average joe without their training. Combat sports like boxing, muay thai, jujutsu, wrestling, kickboxing, lethwei, etc, may not train you to specifically block an eye gouge, but they teach you how to defend yourself against many other attacks, and someone who can box well is much less likely to get their eyes taken out, training head movement, footwork, angle and level changes for hours upon hours every week will lessen the chances of you being hit accurately. the same goes for any other art that focuses specifically on combative ability, as well as other arts like like karate, which focus both on art and Combat, although they are usually inherently less effective
As a non practitioner of this discipline, I found it hard to choose between these two ladies. I just absorbed all the power and grace of their movements. They both are winners in my untrained eyes.
i am feeling the concussion in my head
Please, camera and edition crew... stop it with the top half takes and closeups. We want to see the whole body movement not the face :/ It is a full body expression, not only the arms...
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👍From IRAQ
exactly
How about when a band plays live and the cameraman remains on a close-up of the singer's face for the entire song?
Difficult to copy the Katas.
Such fast switching movements still body balance is intact...👏👏👏👏
Calcutta/ India= No words to comment ! Only Appreciation of the Demonstrstion of K a t a ! Thanks to channel.
So amazing! Intense perfection!
Have not seen any woman Karateka perform a kata better than Rika Usami yet!
don't.
Thank you , magnificent!
Both of them were amazingly great👍👍👍
Good job Ono!
That was beautiful!
:)
Congratulations for they and also Japan, oss!
Very beautiful..thanks for post it..only Just a reflection... I observe that the "kiai" has become... just another "part of the show", simply... and I think that the kiai should be an explosion of energy... not a scream "to scare "... there is a martial art that perfects "kiai-jutsu"... well it was just a note... thank you.
I seen her "Mantis" and I knew she was going to win. So Graceful and powerful, UNBELIEVABLE!!!
You women are incredibly talented and I have immense respect for y’all. I really enjoyed watching you. Remarkable job ladies! 🥋
Браво' ПОЗДРАВЛЕНИЯ ...YES ! , ブラボー」おめでとうございます...はい。 長い間見ていない ブルガリアからこんにちは。
Combat sports effectiveness in street fights is actually pretty good its just people who learn martial arts are more disciplined and know when and where they have to use them or hold back.
I just recalled Rika usami 🌺
Shes the absolute best in kata
Osss nice, good job 👍🥇💪❤️
Bagus sekali🎉
congratulations ❤
Where is the Karate Bouts?
awesome,I do prefer the older slow kata, as I say still Awesome
I thought ms Saeko Azuma JPN had better form concentration though 🤔 ....
When I see a Chantayara Kushanku, it's hard to not compare with Rika Usami's which is perfect, whereas Saeko Azuma's looks great, but FOR ME she puts to much strength and intensity. Maho Ono's kata is way more balanced in term intensity, sharpness, smoothness.
That's why i'd choose Ono for the win.
How do you know who wins?
Good fight 😁😁😁😁
Both were superbly done
Waouh trop cool elles sont belles et fortes en plus bravo Japon j'ai aimé après cette séquence...
I Love JPN Karate.
WOW! AWESOME!
When she says take the kids to school, do the laundry and clean the house before dinner... that's what you do.
Those girls have some serious power! Wow! ❤
Both are very powerful kata practitioners.
カッコええ〜😎
Superb
In a few hundred years, these routines would be slowed down and become tai-chi like exercises practiced by many
Noooo😂😂😂
Tai Chi is more like slow Kung Fu than slow Karate. But at the highest levels of the martial arts, they are all teaching a lot of the same moves and techniques. Lower level Karate is strikes, but at higher levels, has the same locks, holds, and momentum redirection as Aikido and Jiu Jitsu (Japanese not Brazilian where focus is on grappling).
Both very good. Whats the name of blue Kata? And from what style?
Papuren, Shito Ryu
@@radekmann799and the First one? thx
@@ViolentCircus, Chantayara Kushanku, also Shito-Ryu, named for Chatan Yara, lived 1668-1756, one of the first to teach Chinese martial arts in Okinawa, which eventually became karate. Shito-Ryu is considered one of the four main foundational styles alongside Wado-Ryu, Shotokan, and Goju-Ryu. It stands out for more extensive use of cat stance.
@@veestormcourage thx a lot, have a nice day
@@veestormcourage you said shito-ryu twice, you meant shotokan at one point surely lol
Congratulations sensei 🥋💐🤝
name of First Kata please
All my favorit Athlete
I hope Japan wins!
(love, love both katas. reminded me I wanted to learn the one...)
Japan is going get the gold metal in Paris
Omedeto gozaimasu ❤
empty vessels have the loudest noises❤ negative comments have no ideas what they are talking about... Viva Karateka❤
MAGIC
DOZO💕💕💕❤️🔥
I an also a shotokan player
Please allow me to ask for the video senpai
I like to see them fight not doing nonsense moves.
Why does it say 5 months ago?
WORLD TAEKWONDO 2024❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Wrong sports. There is no kata in taekwondo.
Looks like Siblings 😮❤
By the way what kata doing in Olympics
You ask the same question about a lot of other sports that are included in the Olympics.
could someone explain how this is scored? is it subjective?
google it
Female kata is the best ❤
This is a million times more interesting than what American TV is showing us. Swimming? Gymnastics? ENOUGH ALREADY!
Hi
This is shotokan? What style is this ? I no reconoce the katas
maho ono... theres shadows of mantis in some of her moves... there was step sequence almost 3step arrow, then the extended spear hand restrike, ofc there is logic from application with all styles leading to many similarities. without a doubt ono discipline has more inyo on top of her excellent presentation.
Wow😮
Kata ?
please commentator try to stay in silence when they perform. pleaaaaaaaaaaase!
I don't know what the hell those judges were looking at, the red belt smoked that blue belt moves were faster sharper and more powerful
Ok now fight!
This which style
Je ne comprends pas pourquoi les athlètes crient si hystériques les noms des katas qu’ils vont exécuter, qui sans hystérie n’est pas possible? Je pense qu’en arts martiaux, il n’y a pas de place pour l’hystérie. Et vous pensez quoi?
LE karaté devrait être aux Jeux olympiques. Il y a de plus en plus de sports d'origine États-Uniens, est-ce pour obtenir plus de médailles d'Or????
one issue with karate is that on a global/western stage, the western announcers know nothing/little about karate and don't explain which style of karate is being performed. if they did it, or the tv program had a 2-minute or so explanation, then western viewers wouldn't be so critical.
About the arabian viewers martial arts in our heart ❤
Is this Shukokai/Shito Ryu , the red belt ?
Very difficult to be a refere or judge for these athlits .... It is an amazing for a judge that can decide one as a winner
Tenho 54, dois meses de Karatê , só faço o primeiro Kata. Posso ir em 2028.
We could do without the verbal commentary while the Katas are going on. It may be amusing for you behind the microphone, but not for us viewers, thanks.
I can't see To whom she is fighting??
If you don't know what it is then why you're watching👀
la primera que se presentó hizo una excelente kata
🎉write NAMES OF KATA🎉
I don't like shito ryu I like shoto kan ryu I had pracriced all My life and now I,m working in many katas of shoto kan and kumite
that's a personal preference
Shitoryu katas better then all
Pos no sabes lo que es bueno.
@@NatsuDragneel-cd5jiIt's better at all.
Pir pir baş. Pîrozbahî.
Why do they look so similar to each other? Are they twin sisters?😅
I'd really appreciate it if the commentator could withhold his comments to before and after the kata. He's really distracting...
I was expecting fight
Me to
is this in the Olympics because Anime is world popular?
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Wushu taolu / forms are way harder, I don't get why katas' following is so much bigger. And Karate's based on Kung Fu. This is coming from a big Karate fan and practitioner. I tried wushu and it's basically gymnastic, you have to train since young age or you have no chance to do even 50% of it. With kata I feel it is possible to do 80-90% of what these athletes can do even if you start at age 30.
Yeah Kung Fu is harder, more dynamic, and more exciting to watch.
You're a karate fan and practitioner and you think that a 30 year old starting in Karate can do 90% of what these women can do? I taught children and adults for years and I can tell you that no adult, 30 years old with no prior martial arts training can ever attain the level of performance that these women are at. These women have been training in Karate since they were children and hit their stride in competition when they are in their 20s. What McDojo do you train at? Wushu is a sport invented by the Chinese government in the 70s to revive Chinese martial arts. It is primarily a gymnastic, acrobatics based sport with some Gung Fu elements tossed in. Nothing that resembles actual existing traditional Gung Fu. Karate kata is mostly all derived from original Southern Chinese Gung Fu forms taught to Okinawans in the late 1800s in Fuzhou, China, and or Chinese who came to Okinawa and taught Gung Fu, most related to White Crane Boxing. The Okinawans stripped down the original Gung Fu forms to be as simple, direct and effective as possible. Kata is similar to shadow boxing, practicing techniques while moving. Competition kata is purposefully and dramatically slowed down to demonstrate power, speed, directional changing, jumping and switching stances, breathing, exact form and execution of many different techniques, blocks, strikes, punches and kicks.
Okay cool? Go watch that then
That's supposed to be a Kiai, not the sound of someone stepping on your foot!
Locking the arm straight at the elbow on the strikes is bad for the elbow.
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Murazik Trail
Wow, the air guitar version of combative sports. This sport will give wrestling, boxing, judo, and taekwondo a run for its money for sure.
Why didn't they go super saiyan?
Adda rika usami
I can appreciate the dedication- as far as excitement it’s pretty dull. Imagine years of dedication for just that….??! Seriously? Where are the fancy kicks?
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Amateur camera person. I went with blue because red style seems a common pick. I rarely see blue style...
HIKARO ONO is the absalute queen of PAPUREN and does not get the respect she deserves......
Is Olympic kata only karate? They all look the same style. When I was a kid and competed, we would go to tournaments where you would have a dozen different martial arts forms competing.
It's too close to call
Is it just me or they look like twins?
They have very similar features.
I could do without the commentator going on about what seemed like nothing of any significance. It was almost like he was filling the space, but not saying anything.
maho okinawan style
The commentators has no idea what they are looking at.