the winx club reboot is trash
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
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edit: y'all i recorded this when i had like 12 subs and i did not expect it to get to 15k views, but trust me i know that it's called cloud tower and that i didn't explain layla's powers correctly, you can stop commenting it 💀
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You shoud realy realy realy Watch season 3 and if you want season 4 they are as good as the First 2 if not even Better, this Is Just a Sugestion of you don't want to it's ok. Lastly of you can find It in Italian with subs go for It, if you can't or do not want to I Sugest you to take a Loock at Unicorns War's videos on the Winx Club dub so you can decide, but evoid the 4kids dub link the plague
Me, a Flora stan ever since I was a little girl: So, you're just going to do that to my girl like that?
Yes! Especially since I remember her being one of the only obvious Latina characters in the cartoons I watched. As a kid, I was so happy to see myself in Flora, a cute and powerful fairy with a love for the environment. Shame netflix, shame
She’s my favorite winx 🥺💕
@@maria.99 you are not child anymore
@@MarieRose2 mine too. Too bad they did her dirty
She exists in the universe she’s terras cousin
1:07 Layla/Aisha’s power was morphix. It allowed her to manipulate all types of liquids and water. She has a strong connection to water and all the oceans. Her Morphix glue allowed her to create any object she could think of. Her power set is actually one of the most complex out of all the winx girls. :)
oh ty! love that
That's true, yeah.
@@cherrybepsi don’t judge the show when you have only seen 52 seconds of it and flora is confirmed to be terras cousin and musa is half Singaporean
@@dragonlighter1887 musa's actress is not half singaporean. that was a rumor/lie someone made up. if you actually go on her official resume elisha applebaum is not of east asian descent at ALL. it just lists that she can 'pass' as asian, i.e she is white but looks dark enough to play an asian character which is kinda skeevy if you ask me. why not just cast an actual asian actress.
@@dragonlighter1887 Flora being Terra’s cousin just makes this whole situation even more of a mess. The fact that they reduced Flora to a minor character so they could have another white character is unacceptable. Also I’m pretty sure they only mentioned Flora being her cousin to try and hide the fact that Terra is actually meant to be Flora. As we all know or should know, the actress was originally casted as Flora and then they changed her name to Terra to try and hide that they whitewashed her.
And they have the nerve to say they were wingless faires tf just call them Witches.
To be fair, wingless fairies are a thing (for example the Sídhe), but I'm not happy with the change either
@@serenitymoon825 but I’m the WINX universe wingless fairies are witches.
@@blackpyxy9583 no they are not. Fairies and witches are essentially the same the only difference is where their power stems from. Witches’ power stems from negative feelings whereas for fairies it is positive feelings.
@@AF-ko7pt lol that’s what I said “wingless fairies are witches”.
It’s a school for wingless fairies to unlock their transformation
First off, the outfits... abysmal. Like how you gonna take Versace inspired design and turn it into this bland boring mess. Secondly, I think a shows like Winx and Sabrina saw the success of Riverdale and are all trying to capitalize off that dark edgy nostalgia. It just doesn't work, and as you said in your video on Riverdale its popular because the writing is so bad and it makes people pay attention.
for real they're trying to copy riverdale's dark aesthetics without understanding that what makes the show successful isn't the edginess, it's the campiness
@@cherrybepsi reads Susan Sontags Notes on Camp once
and what about it
I know. I have no idea why they would think we (original fans of winx that are now young adults) would want this dark and edgy theme when we fell in love with the brightness and happiness of the original winx. Maybe the dark design works for the witches and villains in the show but NOT for the fairies. They did my girls dirty
@@cherrybepsi spot on!
Creator: "This show is for the 20-year-olds who watched Winx as a kid."
Me, crouching in the corner: "I was 20 when I watched Winx..."
I remember playing it everyday in kindergarten with friends and none of us ever watched the show, but one girl had the subscription of the Winx magazine and that's why we played it
I first watched it like 3 years ago and rewatched (to season 5 or 6 or so?) it during quarantine, and I loved it so much
same boat here. watched it as an adult and loved it. As that writer guy said..." When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty, I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
And honestly some dark shows are okay but once u r an adult u have to deal with the real darkness of the world. I don't need everything dark.
Never too late. 😆
I wouldn't consider myself late as it had just come out at the time.
@@theprincessblog I didn’t know. You said you were 20. You didn't exactly specify when...
terra's casting call was originally set out as flora, so they really did just white wash her.
Idk_Reveluv yeah I think that’s what happened
@Idk_Reveluv they changes it to terra
@Idk_Reveluv if they do that why not change musa name :3
Rohaaaan
@Idk_Reveluv wtf is that reasoning?? 😭😭😭 That's so fucking dumb, it's literally the OG character's name
Netflix's Winx makes me CRINGE. Alongside of their race bending controversy and exclusion of Tecna- they also excluded everything that made Winx the cool, fun and diverse fairies we love. This edgy tone of the show and removal of their transformations and wings literally makes then no different to witches. Witches that I might remind you ALREADY EXISTED within the show? Trix are way cooler than this Netflix abomination of a reboot.
wait the idea of a trix led reboot sounds so good actually 😳
@@cherrybepsi now you know how fans of Star Wars, Star Trek, She-Ra, Thundercats, Terminator, Ghostbusters, Ninja Turtles, Voltron, G.I Joe and Disney Classics have been feeling for years now.
Now you get to suffer with us.
Next: Zorro, Cowboy Bebop, Avatar the Last Airbender (again), Lord of the Rings and PowerPuff Girls.
YOU HAVE ONLY SEEN 52 SECONDS OF IT!!!! And the actress who plays musa is half Singaporean and terra is not Flora!!! Flora is her cousin.
@@dragonlighter1887 Are you delusional? Simple google search proves that Netflix changed Flora's name to Terra only to avoid racism claims. Dont defend or make excuses for big corporations sweetie. Winx has been going on for almost two decades and to mess up a popular IP is inexcuseable.
@@Farewellagainagain it’s literally a retelling it’s not gonna be like that original don’t waste your time bashing the show then don’t watch it simple.
I am so devastated and disgusted by what they did to my girls. In Poland, where I live, you either watched W.I.T.C.H. or Winx (they were on different channels and not many people had both of them) and Winx literally defined my chidhood and future creative works - I got into drawing and writing because of this show, and I even created my own winx club fairy one time because there were too many of us to play pretend winx and my friend took Flora so I had to come up with something; now this original/former-winx character i created has her own story I plan to write into a book or a comic.
I also remember one time I begged my dad to record one winx episode on a casette so I wouldn't miss it (I think it was the last episode in s1, just remember Bloom and Sky kissing).
Even now, when I'm 23, I still watch seasons 1-3 at least once a year, or listen to the transofrmation songs or songs from the movies (Unica is still a banger) and I have frequent discussions regarding winx with my childhood friend.
I just... WHAT DID THEY DO TO MY BELOVED SHOW honestly I'm so mad I wanna cry
P.S. I'll probably watch the first episode out of spite and to have something to complain about
Omg dude, we're literally like the same person. I used to watch it religiously when I was a kid,my friends and I would pretend we were characters from the show and it's literally the reason why I wanted to be a fantasy writer since age 6. I was really looking forward for the live action, especially to seeing my girl Flora :((
Same 😭 I wanted to be Flora so bad and I remember I felt sad because she didn’t have a love interest in the first season. Then when Helia appeared I fangirled so much. I think I’ll watch the whole series just to criticize it, not on Netflix but some bootleg site. I won’t give them any views 🤠
Cool! 😆 I love fan stuff (unless the “fan” butchers characters for no reason)! 🥰
Will it be a webtoon? 😃
I loved WITCH, I used to buy the magazine with the comic in it every week (every month?!) when I was a kid. I'm so mad I threw them all out...
Story of my life. I got inspired by this show to make my own fiction and they be doing this
They. Left. Out. Techna. This is unforgivable.
Maybe they switch techna role with aisha
WHAT???
And they left out Timmy and the Trix.
Techna’s lesbian energy would have been too powerful for the show to handle
@@alyreadsbooks7560 she’s not lesbian she was with Tammy
@@nathalia00906 I know lesbians who have had bfs 🤷🏼♀️ Techna being lesbian is just headcanon, but it’s one I had since I was a young kid and feels very right
Why on earth do the Netflix producers think young adults want to watch middle aged white women (ik the actors aren't acc middle aged but they sure as hell aren't 16)) pretending to be a diverse group of teenagers playing out unrealistically dark story lines in ugly clothes
They are 22-25 from what I've seen. Elfia is a bit post-highschool/college type of school. The real issue is the fashion: it ages them. Eliot Salt isn't a bad looking girl even, but the clothes make her look like a 40 yo hag. I'm honestly tired of media portraying all plus sized people in such an ugly way.
@@MissMoontree in the original they're all 16 so that's strange that they aged them up
@@MissMoontree so true about how terribly they style plus sized women though. It's literally not that hard, just consult any plus sized stylist
In my opinion, they shouldn’t have gotten a plus-sized actress to play any of the winxes.
@@mailin6400 they did that because of diversity, and i think it's nice they didnt keep up with the "barbie-figure" body type. but as the homies said, with the clothes they made Terra wear it's a horrible sight to look at
They change the tone. Netflix:s version looks very dark and depressing. Original was bright, colourful and funny. Also trends and clothing were the thing.
Never go full Riverdale!
The fact that the entire fandom reawakened just to talk trash about the reboot
Al fandom de México le gustó mucho el reboot JAJAJA
Flora is latina, inspired by Jennifer Lopez. And facts the whole sound track of winx club slaps. I only listen to the español españa version and still re-watch the same spanish version. After I came to the U.S I tried watching it in english but, no shade, is trash they have no emotion, it sounds like an anime english dub. In my opinion
The English counties are just really bad at dubbing, it's a fact.
@@dianas7429 Not really, but sure. Cinelume (or whatever the spelling is) dub did have emotions. 🤦🏽♀️
And this is whybim re-writing s8 because that was overly childish. :/
Wait is it true that Flora was inspired by JLO? I always thought she was Southeast Asian
@@addyvalencia Yeah she was :). She is latina
Besides white washing, I'm also confused about their style and looks, like they don't look at all like the original character
I would be able to turn a blind eye to the fact that they don't look like originals, don't have the same colour palette etc. if outfits were actually good
I don’t think they have to look the characters (not talking about the white washing... white washing is fucked up). But, like, the outfits should have been absolutely beautiful for this show, and they’re painful to look at
@@alyreadsbooks7560 Exactly they tottally disregarded their styles. They had so much material to work with. For example Bloom was always a girl next door fashion wise, stella was boujee and she most likely would own designer pieces (maybe vintage chanel etc), Aisha was sporty with a lot of crop tops/camis, miniskirts and chunky sneakers, Musa is giving me very much e-girl with a punk-rock twist and techna there would be a lot of metallics, silver etc.
@@mochabarbie3764 Exactly but instead they just did “Fire red, water blue, light yellow, plants brown and green, emotions purple”
@@iconicbarbsdog7218 exactly. Ngl I watched it on Netflix and that’s not terrible but it’s not amazing either. Like if they didn’t attach winx to it and made it it’s own show it would’ve been more enjoyable
im going to be rooting for the villain in this show bc it seems like its the only thing that went right despite them being merged from three people into one...
i'm not sure if it's confirmed that the original trix trio isn't going to be in the reboot (though it does look that way) but yea i might end up watching just to see how good/bad the villains end up being 👀
@@cherrybepsi the vil!ain is called beaTRIX so basically she's the trix
Is she going to have all three powers of icy, darcy, and stormy?
So apparently Elliot was originally casted to play Flora, but producers knew ppl would be mad that Flora was no longer Latina, so they just changed her name and said it was a different character to avoid backlash 🥴🥴
As a latina i think the word "Latinx" is ridiculous. Only ppl on the USA say that shit, no one is South America says that. Just say latino/latina or Latin and go.
yikesss
@@summerchild_ I pray you learn some manners the next time you attempt to correct someone about a race's name. Yes we here in the US say that (including Lantinx people themselves), and yes we will prob continue to. Have safe day.
Well no shit
@@ki-janamoore195 being latino is not a race, you xenophobe. There are Latinos from all races. Thinking that lstino is a race is seriously racist, xenophobic and ignorant.
And if ppl from Latin America tell you that you shouldn't say "Latinx" to refer to then you should listen and do as they ask you... Not be like "uhh you are so rude and I'm going to keep on using that term that you don't like to refer to you because I want to uwu".
Stop using "latinx" you can't even pronounce that word in spanish/Portuguese.
the thing that really disappoints me is that there is truly less girl-focused media for girls and women to be nostalgic about, compared to a lot of stuff which is catered to boys (which is considered "for everyone", but funny that it never really goes both ways with content meant for girls unless its like the brony phenomena or something akin to that). and taking something people are fond of for nostalgic reasons and making it darker and dealing with heavier topics, to be honest, feels like a good idea; i think its partly why things like harry potter became so successful, because the characters grew with the readers. but this? this is cosmetic seriousness. theres truly nothing stopping them from trying out something new, venturing to try a different style, to consider giving the characters we already know a deeper backstory, give them the sort of problems girls face -from anxiety to harrassment to in group fights and learning how to manage their emotions, how to befriend others, how to forgive, finding their motivations and principles and sticking to them, wanting to change their circumstances, etc. all of this should be obvious for anyone wanting to make a "gritty reboot", and casting full grown women to play sixteen year olds, giving everyone bland strong-jawed boyfriends, and desaturating the screen is just performative.
who knows, the show may actually be bearable, even fun to watch, in the way that i assume people have fun watching riverdale or supernatural, i guess. it may even have some good performances and interesting themes. but if they attach themselves to the Winx name, explicitly to attract the original shows audience, then they cant just whitewash and erase characters, and make away with the tone and the general aesthetics. its just sad. and it reveals a lot about the showrunners and the ones who made it, about what they consider valuable and "mature" content 😔
yeah, i think you really nailed it with "cosmetic seriousness". it's "gritty realism" not for serious intention of exploring darker themes, but likely for making it less "girly" and more palatable for a wider audience :/
Im a dude as a kid i liked winx club and im deeply offended at this reboot.
@@qualityqueen1553 Rightly so!
@@Snow-xd4rv hey, pls theres no need to be so aggressive. i say that because a lot of rebooted or adapted properties are, generally speaking, those either with male leads or oriented to male audiences, such as: jurassic park, teenage mutant ninja turtles, transformers, it, stranger things, star wars, star trek, planet of the apes, spiderman, superman, batman, dredd, robocop, terminator, king kong, james bond, mission impossible, mortal kombat, top gun, among others... some of them, like the new star wars sequel trilogy, the oceans 8 movie and the ghostbusters movie, are made with female protagonists, but at least the last two examples were both made by men and werent very successful.
media specifically targeted to girls, like, say, she-ra or the disney princesses, are being remade and given a big budget, but theyre still a relative minority compared to the huge franchises i mentioned earlier. and theres also things like the latest lara croft movie or the mad max movie, which may feature female protagonists but which were made with a mostly male audience in mind.
what i meant to say is, theres little content specifically made for girls, the way teenage mutant ninja turtles, terminator and robocop and other 80s properties were designed with a male audience in mind, that feature femininity or "girliness" at the forefront and are being rebooted or remaked nowadays. and those properties that are being remade (like the disney princesses, winx, powerpuff girls, totally spies probably sometime soon) are immediately met with suspicion because so very few times it was actually made into something enjoyable and that respected its audience, or even that had the spirit of the original work. of course, that happens with all reboots and remakes, but when "girly content" is comparatively scarce or less well-regarded, theres a higher chance that these remakes turn out to be bad.
@Matti Watrin hehe, well i actuallu watched two or three seasons of supernatural and tbh i enjoyed it when i was younger, i just felt it was a little bit ridiculous while also being so self serious and dark and "the end of the world depends on you" stuff. but hey, thats just my personal taste 😅
we deserved a campy, nostalgic reboot with cute y2k fashion, bright colours and representation for the characters of colour... instead we got this dark academia bs. what netflix needs to realise is that young adults want to experience their childhood shows in live action as a nostalgic and whimsical experience, not reimagined in a dark aesthetic. think bratz or scooby doo. live action that captures the heart of the original show, whilst still being its own project.
Exactly well said. Although the Bratz remake was terrible it still stayed true to it's original material and it was nostalgic to watch, same with scooby doo (That franchise knows what it's doing)
Scooby doo remakes have been good. Maybe everyone should take notes...
The only good thing is they cast bloom right, Abby is naturally redhead and still young but bloom always wear blue outfits.(i watched CAOS and she did pretty good as Dorcas)
What i don't understand is the outfits look musty and dark as hell(stella would not approve),why they need to whitewashed musa and flora? Why they changed their name and musa powers?Also where tf is techna?
From the teaser, it was dissapoinment for me as a winx fans but im still watching it so i can gave out my opinion
Yeah the only cast i agree with was bloom
And what the new Ariel performed by a black women. Is it blackwashed ?
@@glambert4ever163 nope, poc representation is important
@@dizdude897 you have double standards !
So if you’re white you can’t be colorwashed? Oh yeah, this notion is only applied to the minorities....
@@glambert4ever163 i dont think theres no suxh thing as that aerial i didnt spell that right could be played black or white and stay the same but if that were tiana for example it couldnt be played by a white person because it has some like problems that has to do with being black and being played by a white person would change is so much and not be right im not sure if this made sense but this is what i hear alotta people say
I LOVED the original show but now it looks so boring and the whitewashing is horrible :( plus it looks like the show is gonna be released very close to my birthday so this is like the opposite of a present haha :/
omg i just realized it's actually releasing close to my bday too lmaooo #aquariusgang
Mine too ❤️
Mine too
Mine is 20 and this is most like an ugly gift for me :)
This isn't even Winx Club, it's the Craft Legacy series, because both are unnecessarily edgy and they're almost indistinguishable due to being full of bland white girls with the token black girl. Don't get me started on Sky going from the genuinely nice yet strong warrior that matches Bloom, to now a generic cheater.
oh he's a cheater in this one too? 👀 RIP
@@cherrybepsi yup and of course it's the main male character sleeping with Stella of all people!
@@michaelfireheart8300 oh nooooo this is a whole mess 🤦🏽♀️ they're really gonna pit the two besties against one another for drama
@@michaelfireheart8300 whaaaaaaaat is that true ?!
@@harunakirisaki2602 that's what I heard and given the ultra edgy look, would it be that surprising?
They did so well with bloom, stella, and aisha but then they just said nah 😔
I'm not so sure about Bloom, Abigail looks the part and is stunning, but idk, I'm not so sure she's good at acting. She didn't act that well in Sabrina, just ok. but maybe it's too early to judge, at least I hope so.
Stella clothes in the trailer is soo ugly and hideous not to mention outdated plain and unpleasing like isn’t she supposed to be the fashionita of the group and aisha blue dress is just like some grandma lost and found
@@dianas7429 Well, I watched the show and she was actually quite impressive maybe it's because she had little Cameo on CAOS.
Me being asian seeing the only asian girl being represented at the time being whitewashed: my childhood is ruined π _ π
If they wanted a grim, dark story; just make it about the witches. The winx were colorful, cute and sparkly.
ALSO, no wings? Wingless fairy’s with dark aesthetics? Like, idk, THE WITCHES?
And it turns out...powered by negative, sorry, I meant strong, emotion.
Anyways, here's a kinda fancast if anyone cares cause Netflix couldn't do it right
- Bloom: Sadie sink or Sadie Stanley
- Stella: Emily Skinner or Emily Ayn Lind
- Musa: Brianne Tju, Ashley Liao or Amalia Yoo
- Aisha: riele downs, Ryan destiny
- Flora: Jenna Ortega, Auli'i Cravalho, or Barbie fereria
- Tecna: Rowan Blanchard or Nina Lu
Its not hard to cast people who look like that characters, look like teenagers and are the correct ethnicities, Netflix casting directors are shit lmao
Jenna Ortega🥺
I'm assuming you already think Layla s perfect because you left her out
@@MeganAllen1738 Layla and Aisha are the same person on the og show, their name changes depending on what language you're watching in :)
No Disney channel actors plz
@@rjpar8244 all of the actors I put don't work for Disney anymore if they have in the past,,,
They really just excluded Latina and Asian people who grew up on the cartoon. Did they think they can paint all PoC on a single character?
exactly i'm suprised they didn't use zendaya or amandla as aisha. No hate to them they're extremely talented. They could've casted Brianne Tju, Ashley Liao or Lana Condor as Musa and Barbie fereria as floraor another young latina actress
@@mochabarbie3764 I disagree with changing Aisha's actress. As much as I love Zendaya and Amandla is stunning, media always favour light skinned, Eurocentric black girls. I genuinely think it's cool that they got a dark skinned black girl with black features. But yes, there's tons of option for Asian and Latinx actresses that could've easily been casted if they actually tried!
@@sapphic.flower no i don't think they need to recast aisha but i'm saying that i'm suprised they didn't cast zendaya and amandla since they're used all the time as black actresses.
Yes
Honestly these adults who just assumes what we like as a generation needs to stop like!!!!
Right? They should've asked the fans, with polls or something
Fr. Like all these magical girl shows have amazing potential but are wasted. Look at s8, they think all little girls love big eyes and pink but wth what???.Winx needs to come to a close because winx was great but its become a cash grab
Look at thomas astruc. He is really ....rude to everyone who gives him costructive critisizm . He made some good Character development for Chloe only to erase it again. He made Marrinete a stalker and super creep. Type up anime puffz and she makes reveiws on Mlb.He even said that zagtoon has better models than Pixar (Incredibles??) implying that they suck.
"Can we turn the lights on please I can't see shit right now" I DIED 💀 😭
Lord Darkar: "Yes! My Curse has finally taken effect! It has warped the very Fabric of Reality and turned the World of these Fairies into a bland, colorless Parody of what it once was!
It completely erased some of them from existence! It....fused the Trix together?!?
Strange, but it's not like I had much use for them anyway.
You might have beaten me, but the Shadow Phoenix has the last Laugh!"
Tell me this doesn't make much more sense. This Show is clearly the Product of some kind of dark Magic.
I might actually check the Series out, but only to see how spectacularly they failed.
If they wanted a Show set in the Winx Universe about Girl with magical Powers that wear dark Clothes.....why not just use Cloudtower instead of Alfea?
Learning more about the Witches, that might actually be interesting!
to be fair, beatrix being the combination of the trix witches was my own speculating (tho it does seem like that's what they're going to do) but yeah i agree that having a show set in the cloud tower would be a way cooler way to explore an edgy and dark story!
@@cherrybepsi If I remember correctly they actually fused together in the Season 2 Finale, because I vaguely remember Layla and the others fighting a giant Witch.
If that's what they are going for with this Beatrix Character, than I might actually have to congratulate the Writers, because that sounds like a clever Idea.
“It’s a bird! It’s a plane! No, it’s Lord Darkar!”
🧚🏻♀️💕Just quick corrections! It’s called Cloud Tower school for witches and the main villains (the Trix) were actually witches lol and I completely agree! The fashion isn’t there and the white washing is no excuse. Girls today are rocking y2k 2000s looks that the Winx thrives on! Not boring substitute teacher looks! Musa should have been played by a East Asian actress 100% with the popularity of kpop and its styling it could have been so cute for her! The fact Tecna(who Kinda reps girls in stem, or in tech) is out is so ridiculous. And Flora... we could have found a brown girl to play her . Too many actors of color want for roles so bad and what happens when u get poc characters they end up white washing them! They casted Aisha and said “welp I’m tired! I think we did enough” also I have been a fan since I was a little boy! My little gay heart loved and still loves these girls and they are a huge influence on my own art. I get taking from the source material making it modern but the problem is it didn’t Capture the essence of the show at all. In “men’s” media (I. E comic book shows and movies) every little detail usually involved (there is still white washing but no surprise) but for the most part they get it right. My friend said to me if they didn’t mention the name Bloom or have the name Winx in the title then he would have thought it was another dark academia show about girls with powers. If they wanted cash in on nostalgia wouldn’t it be better make it looks at least somewhat reassembling so people who grew up and attach to it! They could have fun and camp and the dark moments that the show did have would have had more impact. I will be watching to see if it’ll surprise me but the gag is... i have doubts but ones. Anyone aha sorry for long comment! Great video🧚🏻♀️🧚🏻♀️🧚🏻♀️🧚🏻♀️
oop yea that's my bad about the trix and cloud tower lmao 🙈 but yea no worries about the long comment, i agree completely! there's no distinction to make the show uniquely "winx club" other than the names 🤷🏽♀️ it's simply capitalist clownery
I completely agree with your comment. And Oh my ghosh, thinking about KPop fashion on Musa. They could have attracted the MASSIVE KPop community. Such a wasted opportunity!
@@MsFighter2011 she could have looked like the missing member of Blackpink! So much inspo!! Makes me soo sad they went this direction story and cast wise. How do u mess up a already diverse cast? Lol
@@Snow-xd4rv We used KPop as reference since Musa is (1) supposedly EAST asian, and (2) fairy of music, her character design resonates pop music and KPop is undeniably the most popular right now. However, it doesn't mean limiting her design to KPop since other east asian pop music culture hold similarities, she can have a mix of all
@@MsFighter2011 okay preach! Thank you sis. It was merely a suggestion Esp for styling her, (which clearly there is a huge lack of style in this “show”) that person can stay pressed.
I HAVE AN IDEA: if they want to have a dark show, why didn't they just make it from the Trix's perspective. Their backstory was never well-explained but it could've been fascinating. They wouldn't've needed to white-wash any characters since all of them were white to begin with. And the whole witch school (I think it was called Cloud Tower) was meant to be dark and edgy to begin with.
Edit: And they don't need wings to fly, neither do they have transformations like Winx. Also, they were meant all meant to be mean, like half the characters in Fate are.
I'm so mad that they got rid of Techa!! We need more women in STEAM and technology!!
Techna was also implied to be Ace too smh and also the best fucking character ngl
@@stuffwithsoph8264 yo that's so cool I had no idea, I'm ace myself and she was always my favourite
Sophia Kotsariadis actually she had a bf too
@@elizabethclarke4981 I know, Timmy, but Ace people can be in relationships too. Ace means you're asexual, and don't want sex, doesn't mean you don't crave companionship or anything
Sophia Kotsariadis oh lol sorry
it looks more like W.I.T.C.H than Winx idk
but even W.I.T.C.H is better than these and i don't want that netflix will ruin that one too
Winx and W.I.T.C.H. were both created in Italy and then became famous worldwide. As an Italian, I'm so disappointed with the live action and if one day Netflix is going to do the same with W.I.T.C.H. my childhood will be forever ruined.
@@dianas7429 same, i am so terrified of the thought they might be doing this to W.I.T.C.H or for other shows I used to watch when i was younger 😥😓
@@dianas7429 you guys have some awesome cartoons, child books and comics especially
@@nnnooy99 same! Btw, if you liked the W.i.t.c.h. Show, you should check out the comic books. It's pretty easy to find them online for free. while the cartoon is just meh, the comic books have such an amazing story, I've recently read them again as an adult and they made me so emotional.
@@ёлки-я7п thank you 💖 in the early 00s there were so many others amazing comic books, both for adults and kids, but many never got translated unfortunately.
i’ve always loved winx bc it was light and flashy and cute but still mature for a show targeted towards ppl 14-17 and it still was good now it’s bland and boring and on top of that the white washing and the way that they don’t even have wings it’s so disappointing.
If they wanna make a good live-action re make why would they take out all the things that made it great? Wheres the iconic y2k style, the bright colors, the diverse characters, and the whole point of the show, fairies? This is literally just the craft legacy, which was honestly really bad.
Yeah, I’d much rather a cartoon sequel or soft-reboot that keeps the same basic style but the writers can include more adult topics than this
THE DARK CINEMATOGRAPHY COMMENT so accurate I turn up my brightness and STILL can’t see a thing
I'm feeling like my childhood is being ripped to shreds and pissed on and there is nothing i can do about it.
They shouldve picked the actors more carefully
netflix adaptation meme holding true once more
I grew up with the dutch version of this show and absolutly loved it. Flora was my favorite so i'm not happy to see she's not even in it, it's also a shame to see how the casted Musa. little fun fact in 11.37 when cherry started talking about the afro, in the Netherlands the girl who got hexed actullay said something like "look at my hair, I used to have curls but now its all some kinda plastic" (you can see the hair bounces back indicating its not actully hair). Sad that it was translated in english in such a poor way.
Btw the dark tower weren’t called “dark tower” it’s called cloud tower and the students there aren’t fairies they’re witches
WITCH won the war of the 00s euro magical girl cartoon
tru i gotta admit WITCH was always superior. i didn't have a doll but i did have a witch book 😌 who was your fav 👀
@@cherrybepsi Irma was my favourite
Imma disagree. The comics: yes.
The two seasons? Hell no! The chemistry between the girls in the first season was so bad. They didn't even act like friends they fought a lot they didn't seem like genuine friends.
The second season was better but the relationships with the guys were all really forced by the end (except for Will and Matt maybe)
I recently rewatched the first three seasons of Winx and the two seasons of W.I.T.C.H. I still love both but I'd rather re-watch the first three seasons of Winx than the two of W.I.T.C.H.
The show did the comics dirty. The comics are some of the greatest pieces of feminist literature right next to Jane Eyre and Little Women
i was introduced a bit late to have much luck tracking it down... my introduction involved a random book on the shelf in the classroom about 5 or 6 years ago that i read over about 10 times and wanted more, but had a hard time finding any more coz when i was 10, i was not very competent at internet.
WHY DID THEY MAKE THEM SO FRUMPY IN THE REMAKE!!!! Literally why. Italians have been known for fashion since forever and they take this totally iconic TV show were such a huge part of it was fashion and fashion done right and remake it in 2020 when that exact style of Y2K early 2000s fashion is back and they ditch the very well designed Italian fashion and instead dress them all like overweight 50-year-old Church moms. WHY? That makes me so mad on top of everything else. There was no need to white wash it either that's of course the big thing but the fashion feels like a slap in the face after that travesty too. literally every single decision they made for the Winx club remake was the wrong decision. I'm just going to throw it out here now I think the director is an idiot and probably a fan of DC. Like how out of touch does this director have to be to think that is how millennials dress. Who are they even marketing this show for? This show is rated TV MA so it's obviously marketed for the adult fans of the old show. so why did they think that the die-hard fans of that old show in which such a huge part of it revolved around fashion in the outfits would be okay with them stripping that out of the show?
Even the specialists had so many characters of color
“We want to appeal to the older audience” I’M FECKIN 25 I AM THE OLDER AUDIENCE NOW CAN YOU PLEASE GIVE ME COLOR AND SPARKLES THANK YOU
out of the 6 main character 3 (flora, musa n layla) is literally poc... it makes me so angry... flora n musa are my favourite characters n both of them became white. this is so disappointing bcs i love the show sm but netflix had to ruin it...
I was about to say! The winx club theme song does slap so hard. You were correct to force those college students to listen to it.
you're so right i was doing them a favor 😌
The cast look olllllld
literally 😭
I love how in the original series they dead ass say it’s not the Winx Club without Tecna and have thoughts about disbanding, while this series just says: “we’re gonna wipe her from existence entirely”
What also sucks is that one of my favorite anime/game franchises is called “Fate” and when I wanna look it up on Netflix it’ll go to that trash.
Also, dark series like Madoka Magica have cutesy designs and the such and there are many cutesy designs for dark anime series. Those are anime that look cute but are actually dark and a good number of them have good plots. The Winx reboot should’ve been animated with cutesy designs similar to Madoka Magica or the such. Or even Sailor Moon. And the plot could’ve been better. Could’ve.
I loved Madoka Magica.
The girls were so fashionable. Stella would faint if she saw these live action outfits.
Honestly having a series in the futuristic, bright coloured, and cutesy style of the original Winx while dealing with adult issues would be way more interesting in my opinion. It's a juxtaposition that would make it stand out, instead they're just giving us Sabrina with extra steps.
I'm just mad we didn't see a dragon even once
i understand completely
is anyone going to address these ''teen'' girls could pass for 30
I WANT TECNA AND FLORA BACK.
I WANT FLORA NOT HER WHITE COUSIN AND TECNA SAVED THE UNIVERSE IN SEASON 3 THE DISRESPECT!!!
Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
seasons 1-3 are the only content i truly love. watching this for the first time I thought "this is kinda weird and interesting" and now the whitewashing of musa and flora makes me hate this.
I'm still going to watch this and make fun of it
Ffs the reason we liked winx club was because it was girly and y2k and quirky in a way
And they decided to take all of that away - EVEN the frickin fashion that we loved so much
1;26 they where witches not evil fairy’s lol
1:26 **
1:26**
Bloom's power isn't "fire," it's called "The Dragon's Flame" which is the life source of the Magix Dimension.
I used to love winx club! I love powerful girls, BRATZ, my scene, totally spies, w.i.t.c.h.e.s, and etc. For the climate we are in, we don’t want tv to be dark... we have enough of that in real life. We need fashion and aesthetics! We want fun and happy things😭 pls we are sad in real life. They are ruining everything. I’m not watching this.
Why TF is my girl tecna not there omg anyone want to see Timmy live action because Bruv I’m mad I need TECNA lol
To be honest I still prefer the animated Winx Club series more than the live action Netflix's "Fate: The Winx Saga". Because it's strange to do a live action series featuring the Winx Club as I'm aware the charcters and the story is going to be slightly different than the animated Winx Club series. Also the characters looked too old to play teenagers and the series is more drama rather than a magical adventure like the animated Winx Club series. I mean were's their fairy transformation form in Netflix's "Fate: The Winx Saga"?
Had to leave a Winx club FB group bc those girl would literally fight anyone who dared to say "guys, this looks really bad, maybe we shouldn't hype?"
It’s sad that us black ppl don’t get much screen time or screening at all but we get replaced :/
It's like Netflix has turned into a vampire and sucked out all the glitter rainbows and cuteness kind of sad.
They always think adults like grim dark, but what I really want is camp. Lean into the bright colours.
I'm 26 and I still prefer the original one.
I'm also 26, same opinion. I'm also Italian and it really sucks to see such a successful show from my country be trashed by Netflix US.
And they say its hard to get a ten year old to watch cartoons :/
the school for the witches is called cloud tower
Girl I swear you are speaking facts like where is the color where is the early 2000s fashion where is tecna where is the diversity where are the legendary trix where are the legendary transformation where are the TEENAGERS not women in their 20s where is the colorful alfea oder alvea i dunno like this is just a disaster 😭😭😭😭😭😭✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼 if I didn’t know what winx was I would think that they are witches is this toooooo much to ask for
I was feeling it when I saw Abigail Cowen was to play bloom then I saw the rest of the actors and their clothes and the trailer didn’t help...
Aside from the outfits being terrible, why are they (almost) all British... are there only two nationalities now? American and British? Obviously, since all the countries from East Asia, Central and South America don't exist in their world. RIP Flora, Musa and Tecna. Also, goodbye to Aisha's personality. No shade towards the actress, but I can't even see this as Aisha, she's just so far from what the bubbly girl she originally was. Same with Stella.
It's not just white-washed, it's Americanized-whitewashed. It's subtle, put the POV, the 'social hierarchy' in the school is too USA-centric, including the subtle mindset that the only countries that matter are English-speaking ones. Neftlix's shitty remake of Death Note had the same problem. And as a result, it's the typical 'dark and edgy' high school drama that we're given over and over, without any regards for the original franchise.
How could they get rid of Tecna too? The fact that Tecna was a tomboy with interest for technology and somewhat rough mannerisms, yet still wore sparkly outfits and had pink hair was a revolutionary concept when i was little. At the time, so much kid-oriented media portrayed the typical skater 'i hate dresses and pink' type of girl as the only way to be truly interesting. A girl seemingly couldn't have the best of both worlds - either you're girly and full of sparkles, but weak and brainless OR you're boy-ish, cool, edgy, interesting, 'not-like the other girls'. Tecna leaned more towards being a tomboy, but still didn't deviate into an extreme, and that was okay. Same with Stella - American media can't grasp the concept that you can be blond, ditzy, interested in fashion, flirting AND be a kind, sweet, supportive person at the same time.
Ya'll they also didn't put in another one of the main characters in the ENTIRE show.
Kiko wasn't there😭😭😭
At least he and Techna can't be ruined like the others 😭🤧
Why are they trying to be river dale? Winx club was my childhood and I would watch it everyday with my grandma. (It was either winx club or Polly pocket, both great shows.) The main success for Winx was the diversity, the fashion, and the friendship. The shows main genre was positive and magical but sometimes they would go down to a more serious note. (When Aishas fiancé died, techna’s sacrifice..) Now onto river dale, the show is so dramatically dark but that’s what I like about it. It’s so dramatic and cheesy that it’s good. It’s honestly my guilty pleasure show. In summary, Winx and Riverdale are two different shows with different types of stories. Winx can’t be riverdale and riverdale can’t be Winx. Hope that made sense, thanks for reading my ramble!
I have not seen anyone commenting this so. On the talent page the CV of Elisha Applebaum it says that she knows Hebrew and in the "appearance" tab it says that she could represent "Eastern European, Middle Eastern, White" people. The thing is that if I have been the first to mention this the general public (and worse, actual middle Eastern people) do no see her as a representative. All the comments have been "why are there 4 white women?". She may have a middle Eastern accent on the show, but just from seeing the trailer we don't know that. And worse how do Chinese/Southeast/East Asian people feel about their representation leaving?
As a Southeast Asian, I’m sad that she represents Musa. I think they should have changed her name, since she’s clearly not Musa (this live action made Musa fairy of the “mind”, instead of fairy of the music anyway, so it’s a completely different character)
OMG People on the comment section of the Fate: winx club saga are mad racist and putting a blind eye to the Whitewashing.
i did not watch winx club but i think i saw like clips here and there on tv and maybe had a doll once? but i thought they looked cute... :( let them be diverse and also sparkly... smh
Maybe TECHNOLOGY DOESN'T APPEAL TO YOUNG ADULTS....
Me:...
Also, if you're gonna watch this stop reading because this might be a spoiler
The only interesting thing hat I actually like about this show, is that Tecna might be an specialist, which I think is a very good flip to it
Wait what??
Im not mad im kinda supprised becahse they said she will be in s2 not s1 but ok
@@3rebella yupp, or so I heard
@@MaiMai-fi3qi I would prefer if she was a *fairy* tho
No offense to the show but uh fairies have wings lol and the style needs to be better and need to have a younger cast
There is such a thing as making something towards ya while maintaining a fun lighthearted feel of a show. Like Stranger things, yeah it’s dark and grimy but it’s also fun and can be light hearted. Plus they wanted to make the characters more “diverse and real” yet they whitewashed and they don’t look like the 14-16 year olds they were
YOU HAVE ONLY SEEN 52 SECONDS OF IT!!!! And the actress who plays musa is half Singaporean and terra is not Flora!!! Flora is her cousin.
When I read that "fans of the previous Winx Club say on social media that the new seasons are childish" I went NO, I MEAN YES, BUT WE STILL WATCHED IT FOR OUR GIRLS 🤣🤣🤣🤣
They know that mostly us old teenagers literally watch the old Winx right? Like why change it when most of us love it
They literally made Musa and Flora white what the heck Netflix 😤😤😤😤😤😤😤🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡😡 and teena isn't even there
I mean latinas can be black /white /Have asian features of literally every race,Because Latinos/Hispanics is an etnia(sorry idk how to writte well) not a race.
So If u really wanted flora to be Latina,que could hace one of those features and still being latina .
But if what you meant is Brown Skined Latina,that's diferente and there's nothing wrong about it,
Still, i think they could do the "Flora" cast better.
I know what you mean( I am a black Puerto Rican myself) But Flora wasn’t a white/Asian/ etc Latina. The actress for Flora/ Terra isn’t a Latina at all. But even if Flora/Terra was played by let’s say an Asian Latina that wouldn’t make sense right? Latina/Hispanic isn’t a race you are correct. But you wouldn’t have a White American play an Asian American
@@MariaLopez-300 yeah its true :(
But the are rumors that flora could appear in season 2 ,ir irá true lets pray to get the acuratte flora.
@@joghissing4634 Yes we deserve our Latina queen 👑 😤🙏🙏🙏
@@MariaLopez-300 exacly owo!
Yes, like a brown Latina since she was inspired by JLo. Thank you for saying it, saying “Latino” as a race is as weird as calling “American” a race since all the Americas are pretty diverse with people of intercontinental origins (and also a long history of racial injustice in Latin America as well too); it’s just the U.S has been generalizing everything that’s not itself for so long that this stereotype became so strong, I’m glad people are realizing how strange it is.
The colourful adaptations of Charlies Angels in the 2000s is a great example of mixing fun colourful costumes and sets with criminal/dark storylines.
Just read Almost Magical by Chocolatesmoothie when it comes out in 2021. It's an next generation fan spin off and it's pretty great. It has a slightly darker tone without going into the ''Bright colors and traditionally feminine things are for children'' territory. The creator even redesigned Aisha/Layla and Nabu's daughter because she gave her straight hair.
“I mean, it might be a good show. I’m just saying it’s not Winx Club,” SCREAMING 🤣🤣🤣 I’m gonna use that in conversation now lmfao
Besides Bloom and Musa, the other characters look Soo damn OLD.
Tbh they looking more like witches from cloudtower than Alfea fairies 😫😂👎🏾or even beta fairies but anyway🤦🏾♀️🧚🏾♀️
Thanks for the credit
thank you so much!! i'm glad you liked it and your original video was super helpful/informative as well 😊
Maybe the Winx reboot is so poorly lighted so you don't notice just how much it has been whitewashed.
😭😭😭
Also the only good seassons were 1 2 3 and 4 which were also the cinellume dubbed
THEY LEFT OUT THE LITTLE RABBIT (i think it was called miko) great my dissapointment is very immeasurable.
I don't get why companies think that when they adapt a show to be darker and more serious, the tone has to be darker and duller too. It's getting really repetative and boring. We have so many shows like this now, why don't you come up with something original instead??? Yes, I get it's for young adult audience. But as a young adult I'm getting bored of the same stuff. I would't mind an adult serious show with bright and colourful scheme AT ALL! In fact I would love it! It would be an interesting concept with the contrast of the tone and the theme. It's clear that the show business is out of ideas...
I'm not even gonna talk about the whitewashing and removing characters because we all know how wrong and disappointing that is....
And the funny thing is S1-3 we bright and colourful but had darker themes. I still like s5-6 because s5 mentions stuff like polution and s6 having courage and not being scared. But this....this sucks
To sum up EVERY popular piece of movie and t.v. series today: NOSTALGIA BAITING
I'm 5.55 Stella has black eyes and is so funny to me
pls i used a background remover and it removed the whites of her eyes too 😩
Musa is supposed to modeled as culturally chinese, even though she is like from a different world. Musa and her mom is wearing clothes that resemble a qipao/cheongsam, which is a traditional chinese outfit for special occasions, e.g; Lunar New Year, weddings, etc. And apparently, Musa's character was inspired by Lucy Liu who is Chinese-American.
wait.. I agree the reboot is trash but.. sis did you watch the original series?😅 layla's powers were literally absolutely different from the others', she had power over water and I don't think that in any way it made it feel like they were running out of powers (it was a whole new element); and also.. did you just call trix and the girls from cloudtower "evil fairies?" giiirl they were WITCHES 😭
i legit haven't watched the show in YEARS so i was a lil rusty but that's my bad lmaooo i should've reviewed the info 🙈
I was talking to my mom about it and she was like” when I think about winx, I do not think about a dark and gloomy setting/mood.” Plus why did he get rid of the trix in this? They were so important to the plot/series and they were some of my personal faves! In my opinion and ofc no hate to the reboot, this just feels like a totally different show just because of how they perceive the entire young adult, Og audience. I know people have different opinions and stuff but I’m sure majority of us still want some cute and familiar winx that we watched growing up,right? Idk if I’m gonna watch it but besides the obvious and dire actions taken, it seems like it could be a genuinely good show. I would have been fine with a darker setting/witch vibe, but only if they had really stuck to the original ethnicity(I think that’s the word? Correct me if I’m wrong) of each character that was scripted in the cartoon. If you took the time to read this, thanks and have a good day/night! Ik it’s long, SORRY! 😅
Hello from the future: it is bad. No only the ridiculous whitewashing they've forced us to accept, but the plot isn't good and I'm not even gonna say a word about the "transformation" at the end. I miss Flora, I miss Musa and, guys, my dear Tecna :'(