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I don't daily my '19. I can't because winter here in PA gets rough and I'd be damned if I left rock salt anywhere near my ZL1. Its my summer & Weekend toy. Besides, racking up tons of mileage on these things isn't what they're intended for.
How bad is the viability? I don't see anyone complaining about viability in a supra or a 370Z. Is the internet seriously just blowing it out of proportion because it's just the thing to say about a camaro?
It's a shame the reviewer assessment was poor and pretty much hinged on the visibility (ever sit in a new supra or the new Z?). The 6th Gen Camaro is on the Alpha chassis. It's essentially one of the finest handling cars in the world. The Nurburgring times speak as to the amazing balance of performance. The ZL1 is faster than some supercars where it counts.
I bought a manual 2SS a few months ago. I absolutely love it. Great power. Great handling. Killer good looks. Incredible V8 sounds with Borla ATAK. It has 200 less horsepower than the ZL1 and I find myself reaching go-to-jail speeds without trying. Couldn’t imagine how crazy the ZL1 feels
I bought an auto ZL1 1-2months ago. ZL1 is not that crazy though it can easily break every known speed limit without thinking about it. It's a normal car in good conditions, but it becomes a handful in heavy rain (tramlines and yet feels like it wants to hydroplane) I find visibility to not be as bad as people think, but I've also had many hours and miles in a C7. I was like, "Meh. It's slightly worse but negligible." Overall, I preferred the C7 (base) and will be trading this car in on a C8, but I have absolutely no regrets buting this beast. It's fantastic!
I've owned a third and fourth gen and I can say the technology and engineering in the fifth and sixth gens are leaps and bounds ahead of the older models. The redneck correlation isn't really deserved for a car this good. I frankly think I see more "tuner" cars in trailer parks than late model camaros. These cars are more "he has a good job" suburbanite than their reputation affords.
I have no problem on visibility on my 2022 Camaro 2SS. I love it more and more every time I drove it. Once you get use to it, I appreciate and enjoy driving it more. Don't be negative my friend...
Agree. No visibility problem at all and im tall. And all hate the back seat, no problem at all too. Just put front seat more forward and you sit very good in rear. So its bad reviews many times. I think i need to do my own review soon:).
I used to have a '91 Camaro Z28 back in the late 90's, early 2000's, and it absolutely sucked in terms of handling.. when compared to the current offerings anywho. Even after a few upgrades, it was a wiser choice just to keep going in a straight line.. I still loved that car though and had some good times with it!
@@engineerisengihere44 I wouldn't say that about the 3rd/4th gen Camaro's. Unless it's a straight line track.. :) Those Camaro's did not do so well on curvy track bit.. not without some heavy aftermarket upgrades anywho. 5th/6th gens are so much better in the handling dept. Night and day almost..
The Camaro and Corvette were never a really bad handling car but ever since 2015 until present they really have stepped up engineering and have pulled ahead of their tier of competition. The C7-R Corvette chassis actually won the 24 hours of le Mans over Ferrari.
I just realized when arguing with mopar boys they always say something like “the demon has a time of (insert quarter mile time)” and not anything to do with track
Had a SS, have a zl1. The zl1 with the options is a better car in my humble opinion. Handles better, I built mine so more power, and just looks better.
I have the rapid blue SS 1LE version and it’s awesome. The ZL1 is a monster in its own right but the visibility is not a big deal once you adjust the mirrors. BUT THE POWER TO DELIVERY ON THESE CARS is the best bargain of all time.
All the "issues" that people have with this car have nothing to do with any of the reasons you buy a performance car like this or my 2018 2SS Hot Wheels Edition. The blind spot monitoring works well, GM added a rear view camera back in 19 or 20 to help with the blinds spots, I have used my back seats multiple times in a bind, and the interior, though cheaper in places (especially for ZL1 money), has a good design to it and every touch point, at least in my car, is either suede or leather. I'll never understand the hate. I absolutely love my Camaro and can't wait to get a ZL1 one day 😊 Good to see you back, Alex!
In the Camaro, you gotta learn to use your quarter windows when there’s passengers in your Camaro. Once I learned how to do that with my 2015 V6, everything because so much easier.
@@mythicore3215 Have you seen the size of Camaro mirrors? Those things would REDUCE visibility even more by blocking most of your mirrors. They are way to small for the additional mirrors.
@@Clutch_Gameplays yes I have seen them, I HAVE A CAMARO and I have blind spot mirrors, and that's just not true, they don't block too much and they are so useful you end up using them more often than not anyway. Plus what is blocked with them, wouldn't have helped you anyway because of the blind spots that are on the car without them.
I worked my ass off to own 2023 Camaro 2SS. Love it and will forever try and keep it as long as I can. Camaro in general I think is not just great and bang for you bucks. But it also has a great healthy community and much respect for each other on the road. But the best thing about the Camaro would be the sound of the exhaust, pops and cracks.
I have a convertible ZL1 and I absolutely love it. The interior is way batter than any plastic 2000s GM products. We buy these for their performance, not their interiors. I was never into Camaros but the ZL1 has had my attention for a few years, I finally bought one a few weeks ago.
Everyone looks for different things in a car, personally I do a lot of performance and body panel mods so as long as the frames straight and all the major components of the drive train is alright, its more than good enough for me. But the market is still ludicrous right now so hard to find good deals that are inflated.
The steering is butter smooth on tour, the engine start, idle, and driving sounds alot louder than most Tang's in my opinion. Only thing I hate about the 22 cam is 3mpg fuel efficiency when you hit the gas and it's hard to hear the charger whine in it, other than that it's so smooth .
I'm personally on the otherside of the new vs used. If it's a daily, used is the way to go. If you are buying a sports car, get that thing new. I'm even more skeptical of a sports car that's been traded in with less than 10k miles. Who knows how rough they were on the car during the break in period if they were planning on not keeping it.
I have avoided buying used cars for quite some time now. The way I see it is if I can't afford it new, then I'm not going to try to buy it used. The last used car I ever bought, I bought privately and was disgusted to find boogers all over the top of the drivers side window. Not only that, but imagine how much fart residue is imbedded inside the seat cushion. You're technically sitting in someone else's butt particles. With this car being a salvage, what are the odds that the driver caked their pants in the accident? Just something else to consider.
Lmfao I have a 2018 ZL1 and a cop pulls me over just to ask “Honestly man, I just wanted to know if I could get a few pictures?”🤣 lmfao I said “do you wanna just sit it it or drive it?”🤣🤣
Currently driving a 2SS after coming from a Challenger. At 6ft, I will admit, I do miss the (extra) space that the boat had, but the Camaro isn't bad. I will also admit that there are some blind spots but visibility isn't nearly as bad as what people make it out to be. It just takes some getting used to. Also, back seat and trunk space shouldn't be that much of a concern. It's basically a two-seater, you know what you're getting into. lol. Overall, I love the car though. It's one of the coolest vehicles I've ever owned in my opinion.
I have a 5th Gen ZL1 and I love it. The 6th Gen is a big step up for sure. These are definitely a ton of performance for the dollar….God Bless America 🇺🇸
It's quite literally a budget supercar. Impractical, radiculous power from a 6.2l V8, great on track, rather better to leave stock, but the interior quality is where it is budget.
Bro all you do is rearrange your side mirrors and we have blind spot detectors. Lol I’m 22 and I own a 18 zl1. We are not known for crashing lol. Best interior made by Chevy in my opinion. Feels like you’re in a fighter jet
WOW!! i am 6'4 and have really no trouble seeing. I think this guy is being too hard with his judgement. I have a zl1 1le and for 74,000 bucks it is a GREAT car. It is so funny the other guy never looked up from his phone. This guy reviewing a truck...."It's got this big bed thing in the back that I only use once in a while...makes it hard to park, when you put things in it sometime they slide around" jeez
I'm in a car club and one of the members owns one of these, she dunks on all of us, it's a Camaro so it's not super interesting but my stance boi VW can't keep up like at all, she fast.
I drive a 2017 Camaro 2ss daily I don't understand why people continuously you cannot see out of the car I don't have a problem seeing out of mine, that's why the car has a rear view mirror and side view mirrors learn to use them
Right now I don't think it's worth it to pay extra for the one owner, super clean car. Imo the older, higher mileage ones (as long as everything is in good working order) is better especially if you're like me and like doing work on your car
With high mileage and still running strong you can usually take a good guess that the previous owner took good care of it. I wouldnt buy a low mileage pre owned, the previous owner could have driven the crap out of it for a while then brought it back. I would rather save a little more and buy new
I think old dudes like me who are 40 and up can just appreciate all Cars no matter what as long as it's clean and clearly loved by the owner. I drive a murdered out 2020 civic si and I've gotten plenty of comments from muscle car guys and I love their cars too. Hell like 3 weeks ago getting gas had a murdered out mustang gt parked next me and he came out saw my car and looked at his car and said yea this is definitely the murdered out section of the gas station.
The ZL1 is very nice performance for the price. Just bought a Mustang GT for 60K new. Used ZL1's are a great deal if you get a clean one. I just wanted a new muscle car and new ZL1's were about 75k. Like he said not the best time to buy a car right now at all.
To keep it relatively affordable Chevy put all the money into the performance aspect of this car sacrificing fancy materials for the interior to do so . I don't care about the back seat or the trunk and I can see just fine out of it and IMO it looks badass needless to say I'm more than happy with my ZL1 purchase.
The power, design and interior cabin of the 6th gens are 100% better than all the other muscle cars. Who cares about tuners???? When did they even become relevant?
It's Honestly Not that Bad Bro. I Have a 5th Gen Camaro 1SS + Rear Window Louvers, And I got Really Used to the Visibility, To Where I'm Comfortable with it. Everything About the Car Is Perfect to Me, Eccept for that it's Not Leather Interior, And it Dosen't have the OEM 4 Guage Pack, I Want
I love Camaros more than mustangs they have a lot of torque they sound a lot better they handle and corner better but I dislike the interior and how expensive it is I like the interior of a mustang I like the price for what you get on a mustang but for me the Camaro is like the better performance package compared to a mustang
The not a tuner car comment is absolutely true lol. I have a modded 14 zl1 and only the older generation freak out for it. Younger crowd only want jdm cars lol. Can't win them all. I've done both scenes so to each their own
If America still put out big block v8s with carbs the youth would love them. Those things sound better than ANY jdm car. Emissions killed 3 things: Detroit, cool and affordable cars, and car company diversity.
Beautiful car, but for a plastic interior, not good visibility, I think I'll just stick to my Evo 9 (I'm 39 years by the way). It's not worth buying a car at the moment unless you really need it.
I bet you’ll crap your pants if you go couple more years & at that point you’ll forget about the screen and the visibility, and the back seat , or trunk . But for another $90000 you can get a audi rs7 and a big trunk opening .
It's worth a new one, if you can deal. I got a 2022 WRX Premium MT for no markup: 33,400. The problem with even the Camaro is that I have kids. Man, F that infotainment BS. The gas pedal is floor mounted, it's fast, loud, loads of power, etc. can't beat it for the price.
Great car for the money no doubt..they size is a lil big with a lot of blind spots..Good Brakes and Power..............but, I would probably still buy a GT350 for 60-65k.
These camaros are sick, my mom doesnt have this one, but a SS.. everything hes said is true though. Interior kinda sucks, trunk sucks because of that goofy size, but that chassis and engine is insanely good
Wheels are the Ferrada CM2, which here is the link, I believe he also has it up on the gallery to check it out also. Heres the link to the wheels! -Edgar www.fitmentindustries.com/store/wheels?sort=instock&brand=Ferrada&wmodel=CM2&saleToggle=0&qdToggle=0&suspension=Stock&modification=No%20Modification&rubbing=No%20rubbing%20or%20scrubbing
Detectors are overhyped. As someone who used to work with designers of radar detectors and radar guns themselves, they really only work in niche situations.
@@engineerisengihere44 yeah they don’t work all the time, but honestly if it worked once it would be worth it based off that. I live in Nebraska with mostly flat straight roads and highways, so I can detect cops over a mile away best case scenario. I had a ticket before I got my detector, wanted one before but got it after. Too many times I’m drivin like 90 or about to have fun and hearing that KA makes me a model citizen. Yes you’re right they don’t work in every situation for everyone but for me it does great. Outta curiosity which company did you work for?
@@engineerisengihere44 my first ticket was without one, second one with. My fault on the second. But it saved me a lot. I’d reccomend pairing with waze if you’re commute is decent. But you can’t be dumb.
Review was trash... who the hell cares about visibility for a high performance car? Might as well complain about gas mileage, reliability, usability (back seat space, not family friendly, etc). Prob shouldn't review it like if its a Prius or Rav4 Js lol
It's actually kinda scary how easy it is to buy a car like this. So many people with more money than sense are going to hurt themselves or someone else driving this car. The kinds of people this car attracts are going to mash the loud pedal at every opportunity without realizing how quickly it can go sideways.
@@FitmentIndustries Sure they can, but I doubt they would. I've seen a lot of Mustang and Challenger/Chargers with front end and side impact damage and most of them in the SoCal area like that are driven by people with little desire to learn.
The nannies save so many people from flying off the road but at the same time inexperienced drivers never really learn the car's capabilities and limits.
61k for a Camaro??? U can Get a used F10 M5 560hp for around 30k and u won't be disappointed, u can even get a used Porsche for 61k...new cars u never know how the vehicle will be long term
BMW’s are not reliable though those cars are problematic and I actually have a 2018 ZL1 and It’s been the best bang for my buck hella reliable never had a issue with it
Maintenance no matter what the depreciation is, will always be as if the car is new. No point in buying a 30k M5 only to pay out of the ass on servicing it as if it was still over 100k
I think that all the so called dislikes about the Camaro from the 2010 to now is over rated, the Camaro for sure not a car for everyone, I got a 2010 2ss and love it, you really get use to the so called blind spots, but you don't really need to sit there on an intersection and wait to have a clear path to get on to a high way if you know your cars and what your car can do compared to the Corolla that's coming up to you I'm sure you can pick up speed way before the Corolla can slow down for you to merge in line
Using Alex’s rating system, where do you rank this Camaro ZL1?
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Only 650? That’s stock numbers
His system is corny. Exterior is at least a 9.5
To be fair I DO feel pretty safe inside; just saying that in a straight line it’s kind of a perfect cockpit
Nice car
Ok ok
As someone under 28 can confirm most of us think Zl1s are very cool to buy. Sincerely, young car guys everywhere
I was sitting here thinking, where tf does this guy come from where a Civic is cooler than a ZL1 lol
@@Hot-1LE for real not everyone is a cringe tik tok kid
@@Hot-1LE I live in a heavily asian populated area. Trust me hes rights. Its pretty sad
Not me😭
I just bought one of these. Can confirm, best value for performance on the market if you want stock big power with tons of aftermarket support.
Me too! It's a great car, but I'll definitely be trading it in eventually. It's not my end goal car, and I can't daily it year round like I'd want
@@ElysiumsJourney Can I ask why you can’t drive it daily?
I don't daily my '19. I can't because winter here in PA gets rough and I'd be damned if I left rock salt anywhere near my ZL1. Its my summer & Weekend toy. Besides, racking up tons of mileage on these things isn't what they're intended for.
How bad is the viability?
I don't see anyone complaining about viability in a supra or a 370Z.
Is the internet seriously just blowing it out of proportion because it's just the thing to say about a camaro?
@@SS1LE_Urien Comes in convertible
It's a shame the reviewer assessment was poor and pretty much hinged on the visibility (ever sit in a new supra or the new Z?). The 6th Gen Camaro is on the Alpha chassis. It's essentially one of the finest handling cars in the world. The Nurburgring times speak as to the amazing balance of performance. The ZL1 is faster than some supercars where it counts.
Yea he was hating bad 😂
@@terryclark7013 he’s a ricer boy.. he can’t help it.
dude was talking about the interior being cheap like all the muscle cars interiors arent cheap lol
pissed in your Cheerios huh
Dude is definitely a soy boy for sure
One of the best cars on the market imo
I bought a manual 2SS a few months ago. I absolutely love it. Great power. Great handling. Killer good looks. Incredible V8 sounds with Borla ATAK. It has 200 less horsepower than the ZL1 and I find myself reaching go-to-jail speeds without trying. Couldn’t imagine how crazy the ZL1 feels
Ah yeah, and the visibility is horrible. But I don’t care 😎
@@MuddyTubMedia right there with you. 2013 2SS RS and honestly It scares me. I don't think I'm ready for something like the zl1 yet
I bought an auto ZL1 1-2months ago. ZL1 is not that crazy though it can easily break every known speed limit without thinking about it. It's a normal car in good conditions, but it becomes a handful in heavy rain (tramlines and yet feels like it wants to hydroplane)
I find visibility to not be as bad as people think, but I've also had many hours and miles in a C7. I was like, "Meh. It's slightly worse but negligible." Overall, I preferred the C7 (base) and will be trading this car in on a C8, but I have absolutely no regrets buting this beast. It's fantastic!
I didn’t buy my Camaro for luxury. I got it to gap turbo tuners who fly up on me on the highway lol
I've owned a third and fourth gen and I can say the technology and engineering in the fifth and sixth gens are leaps and bounds ahead of the older models. The redneck correlation isn't really deserved for a car this good. I frankly think I see more "tuner" cars in trailer parks than late model camaros. These cars are more "he has a good job" suburbanite than their reputation affords.
Cap ever Latino that work at fast food got a maro or a truck
@@keeptheklout2881 proabbly a v6 deff not a zl1
@@giovannibalcazar Yeah definitely not a SS either lol
I have no problem on visibility on my 2022 Camaro 2SS. I love it more and more every time I drove it. Once you get use to it, I appreciate and enjoy driving it more. Don't be negative my friend...
Agree. No visibility problem at all and im tall. And all hate the back seat, no problem at all too. Just put front seat more forward and you sit very good in rear. So its bad reviews many times. I think i need to do my own review soon:).
It’s crazy how much of a track beast the Mustang and the Camaro have become over the years.
Camaro always has been a track beast
I used to have a '91 Camaro Z28 back in the late 90's, early 2000's, and it absolutely sucked in terms of handling.. when compared to the current offerings anywho. Even after a few upgrades, it was a wiser choice just to keep going in a straight line.. I still loved that car though and had some good times with it!
@@engineerisengihere44 I wouldn't say that about the 3rd/4th gen Camaro's. Unless it's a straight line track.. :) Those Camaro's did not do so well on curvy track bit.. not without some heavy aftermarket upgrades anywho. 5th/6th gens are so much better in the handling dept. Night and day almost..
The Camaro and Corvette were never a really bad handling car but ever since 2015 until present they really have stepped up engineering and have pulled ahead of their tier of competition. The C7-R Corvette chassis actually won the 24 hours of le Mans over Ferrari.
I just realized when arguing with mopar boys they always say something like “the demon has a time of (insert quarter mile time)” and not anything to do with track
I had an SS and loved it so I could imagine how great a ZL1 would be.
Had a SS, have a zl1. The zl1 with the options is a better car in my humble opinion. Handles better, I built mine so more power, and just looks better.
I can confirm that this car will indeed get you arrested. I literally lost my license in this car... ☺️😔. Thankfully that was about a year ago.
Ope😬 -Edgar
Thankfully ?
@@cartercarter3484 Well, I guess the part I'm most thankful for is that I've worked from home for about 4 years.
My neighbor is a cop and he has a ZL1😂😂
You shouldn't have stopped and pressed the gas
I have the rapid blue SS 1LE version and it’s awesome. The ZL1 is a monster in its own right but the visibility is not a big deal once you adjust the mirrors. BUT THE POWER TO DELIVERY ON THESE CARS is the best bargain of all time.
I had an 18 ZL1, and it is one of the few cars I would rather take on the track than my Porsche Cayman GTS that I currently own.
Alex is the kid who finally moves out the house. But is still around for dinner every night. And still sleeps in his own room which is untouched.
😅😅😅 -Edgar
All the "issues" that people have with this car have nothing to do with any of the reasons you buy a performance car like this or my 2018 2SS Hot Wheels Edition.
The blind spot monitoring works well, GM added a rear view camera back in 19 or 20 to help with the blinds spots, I have used my back seats multiple times in a bind, and the interior, though cheaper in places (especially for ZL1 money), has a good design to it and every touch point, at least in my car, is either suede or leather.
I'll never understand the hate. I absolutely love my Camaro and can't wait to get a ZL1 one day 😊
Good to see you back, Alex!
I want them to do something like chrysler did and make a vintage style camaro similar to the challenger.
@@engineerisengihere44 the 5th gen. Hell it started the trend.
In the Camaro, you gotta learn to use your quarter windows when there’s passengers in your Camaro. Once I learned how to do that with my 2015 V6, everything because so much easier.
you dont even need to, go to an auto zone and get blind spot mirrors for $15 and you will literally never have visibility problems
@@mythicore3215 Have you seen the size of Camaro mirrors? Those things would REDUCE visibility even more by blocking most of your mirrors. They are way to small for the additional mirrors.
@@Clutch_Gameplays yes I have seen them, I HAVE A CAMARO and I have blind spot mirrors, and that's just not true, they don't block too much and they are so useful you end up using them more often than not anyway. Plus what is blocked with them, wouldn't have helped you anyway because of the blind spots that are on the car without them.
Ahh yes the chavrolet Camaro
Thanks for not putting in the part where I raced every single car that lined up next to me. hahahahaha
Beautiful chief 😅 we aint see NOTHIN. -Edgar
If you're the real Alex in this video then you're my favorite host on this and would like to see more of your shows man.
I worked my ass off to own 2023 Camaro 2SS.
Love it and will forever try and keep it as long as I can.
Camaro in general I think is not just great and bang for you bucks. But it also has a great healthy community and much respect for each other on the road.
But the best thing about the Camaro would be the sound of the exhaust, pops and cracks.
I have a convertible ZL1 and I absolutely love it. The interior is way batter than any plastic 2000s GM products. We buy these for their performance, not their interiors. I was never into Camaros but the ZL1 has had my attention for a few years, I finally bought one a few weeks ago.
After 9 months of ordering, finally got one. Manual, convertible. Amazing, great visibility/head room with top down. What more do you need?
Everyone looks for different things in a car, personally I do a lot of performance and body panel mods so as long as the frames straight and all the major components of the drive train is alright, its more than good enough for me. But the market is still ludicrous right now so hard to find good deals that are inflated.
The steering is butter smooth on tour, the engine start, idle, and driving sounds alot louder than most Tang's in my opinion. Only thing I hate about the 22 cam is 3mpg fuel efficiency when you hit the gas and it's hard to hear the charger whine in it, other than that it's so smooth .
I'm personally on the otherside of the new vs used. If it's a daily, used is the way to go. If you are buying a sports car, get that thing new. I'm even more skeptical of a sports car that's been traded in with less than 10k miles. Who knows how rough they were on the car during the break in period if they were planning on not keeping it.
I have avoided buying used cars for quite some time now. The way I see it is if I can't afford it new, then I'm not going to try to buy it used. The last used car I ever bought, I bought privately and was disgusted to find boogers all over the top of the drivers side window. Not only that, but imagine how much fart residue is imbedded inside the seat cushion. You're technically sitting in someone else's butt particles. With this car being a salvage, what are the odds that the driver caked their pants in the accident? Just something else to consider.
The low rpm torque on a muscle cars are very desirable for chill driving and enjoying the road, there's no beating that.
I've noticed the times i have ridden in one! It is relaxing. -Edgar
Lmfao I have a 2018 ZL1 and a cop pulls me over just to ask “Honestly man, I just wanted to know if I could get a few pictures?”🤣 lmfao I said “do you wanna just sit it it or drive it?”🤣🤣
I’ve got a 18 zl1 coming from a 18 type r. From all the cars I’ve owned, this is by far the best and most fun.
Also you can see.
Oh and get the manual. Auto wack
Currently driving a 2SS after coming from a Challenger. At 6ft, I will admit, I do miss the (extra) space that the boat had, but the Camaro isn't bad. I will also admit that there are some blind spots but visibility isn't nearly as bad as what people make it out to be. It just takes some getting used to. Also, back seat and trunk space shouldn't be that much of a concern. It's basically a two-seater, you know what you're getting into. lol.
Overall, I love the car though. It's one of the coolest vehicles I've ever owned in my opinion.
Lol did they realize Alex IS the channel, been a guest host quite frequently
I have a 5th Gen ZL1 and I love it. The 6th Gen is a big step up for sure. These are definitely a ton of performance for the dollar….God Bless America 🇺🇸
It's quite literally a budget supercar. Impractical, radiculous power from a 6.2l V8, great on track, rather better to leave stock, but the interior quality is where it is budget.
Bro all you do is rearrange your side mirrors and we have blind spot detectors. Lol I’m 22 and I own a 18 zl1. We are not known for crashing lol. Best interior made by Chevy in my opinion. Feels like you’re in a fighter jet
It is too bad they detuned this car just for the sake to make the Corvette faster, when this was the better and faster car
WOW!! i am 6'4 and have really no trouble seeing. I think this guy is being too hard with his judgement. I have a zl1 1le and for 74,000 bucks it is a GREAT car. It is so funny the other guy never looked up from his phone. This guy reviewing a truck...."It's got this big bed thing in the back that I only use once in a while...makes it hard to park, when you put things in it sometime they slide around" jeez
I’m questioning whether this guy knows what he’s talking about if he’s bashing a ZL1 🤨
No bashing! Just having fun with it. -Edgar
I'm in a car club and one of the members owns one of these, she dunks on all of us, it's a Camaro so it's not super interesting but my stance boi VW can't keep up like at all, she fast.
“Muscle cars are boring” is the dumbest thing I’ve heard anyone say.
I got an '18 ss2 redline and love it, not quite a zl1 but I plan on doing a cam and heads with intake and exhaust over the winter
I drive a 2017 Camaro 2ss daily I don't understand why people continuously you cannot see out of the car I don't have a problem seeing out of mine, that's why the car has a rear view mirror and side view mirrors learn to use them
"Chavrolet"
Right now I don't think it's worth it to pay extra for the one owner, super clean car. Imo the older, higher mileage ones (as long as everything is in good working order) is better especially if you're like me and like doing work on your car
All a personal preference! -Edgar
With high mileage and still running strong you can usually take a good guess that the previous owner took good care of it. I wouldnt buy a low mileage pre owned, the previous owner could have driven the crap out of it for a while then brought it back. I would rather save a little more and buy new
I think old dudes like me who are 40 and up can just appreciate all Cars no matter what as long as it's clean and clearly loved by the owner. I drive a murdered out 2020 civic si and I've gotten plenty of comments from muscle car guys and I love their cars too. Hell like 3 weeks ago getting gas had a murdered out mustang gt parked next me and he came out saw my car and looked at his car and said yea this is definitely the murdered out section of the gas station.
🤝🤝🤝 -Edgar
Just ordered a 2023 zl1 but I really want a charger scatpack wide body or a hellcat. But with this market chargers have 10-15k markup.
The ZL1 is very nice performance for the price. Just bought a Mustang GT for 60K new. Used ZL1's are a great deal if you get a clean one. I just wanted a new muscle car and new ZL1's were about 75k. Like he said not the best time to buy a car right now at all.
To keep it relatively affordable Chevy put all the money into the performance aspect of this car sacrificing fancy materials for the interior to do so . I don't care about the back seat or the trunk and I can see just fine out of it and IMO it looks badass needless to say I'm more than happy with my ZL1 purchase.
I’m 5,10” and with longer legs and I was fine in the convertible zl1 backseats for over an hour
The power, design and interior cabin of the 6th gens are 100% better than all the other muscle cars. Who cares about tuners???? When did they even become relevant?
They've had blind spot issues since the 5th gens and that's a big reason not to own one. But, they are very fast.
The visibility is not a problem
It's Honestly Not that Bad Bro. I Have a 5th Gen Camaro 1SS + Rear Window Louvers, And I got Really Used to the Visibility, To Where I'm Comfortable with it. Everything About the Car Is Perfect to Me, Eccept for that it's Not Leather Interior, And it Dosen't have the OEM 4 Guage Pack, I Want
Can you please do a review of Dodge Challenger Scat Pack/ Challenger Hellcat regular. Please thank you!
I love Camaros more than mustangs they have a lot of torque they sound a lot better they handle and corner better but I dislike the interior and how expensive it is I like the interior of a mustang I like the price for what you get on a mustang but for me the Camaro is like the better performance package compared to a mustang
Even if i don't like American cars trying to drive one in a "realistic video game" like dirt rally 2.0 it's a very very fun car to drive
I’ve never heard anyone say muscle cars are boring.😂😂😂😂
I ordered it and paid MSRP for it :D
Muscle cars are boring??? Who the fuck said that
As a mustang owner, I hate to admit this..but the ZL1 is a badass car !
The not a tuner car comment is absolutely true lol. I have a modded 14 zl1 and only the older generation freak out for it. Younger crowd only want jdm cars lol. Can't win them all. I've done both scenes so to each their own
If America still put out big block v8s with carbs the youth would love them. Those things sound better than ANY jdm car. Emissions killed 3 things: Detroit, cool and affordable cars, and car company diversity.
This isn’t a car for a high school kid flipping burgers at McDonald’s. Too expensive and way too fast . It’s great bang for the buck but still $70K
C5 Zo6 video please!!
Beautiful car, but for a plastic interior, not good visibility, I think I'll just stick to my Evo 9 (I'm 39 years by the way). It's not worth buying a car at the moment unless you really need it.
I bet you’ll crap your pants if you go couple more years & at that point you’ll forget about the screen and the visibility, and the back seat , or trunk . But for another $90000 you can get a audi rs7 and a big trunk opening .
I don’t think the interior is really that big of a deal u have 650 hp for 60k that suffice for the interior quality
Some people just like really nice interior 🤷♂️
6th gen SS
How can you not see? Adjust your mirrors correctly, no need to turn your head...
7:38 no, that's why I drive a coupe. 2 doors, 2 people 😂
🤤🤤🤤 -Edgar
It's worth a new one, if you can deal. I got a 2022 WRX Premium MT for no markup: 33,400. The problem with even the Camaro is that I have kids. Man, F that infotainment BS. The gas pedal is floor mounted, it's fast, loud, loads of power, etc. can't beat it for the price.
Great car for the money no doubt..they size is a lil big with a lot of blind spots..Good Brakes and Power..............but, I would probably still buy a GT350 for 60-65k.
These camaros are sick, my mom doesnt have this one, but a SS.. everything hes said is true though. Interior kinda sucks, trunk sucks because of that goofy size, but that chassis and engine is insanely good
Love mine. Wouldn't have gotten any thing else besides a gt500 under 100k.
This is the only car that I keep falling on besides an s550 GT/hellcat in manual, for the money.
The reviewer isn't biased at all.........
Alex: You can spank any car on the road with this car.
Obnoxious Hellcat owner: Hold my weird fisheye camera on a stick.
Heavier and struggles more for traction…should be a good one.
It will get beat
Yeay, Alex has returned to FI
I find it funny that every reason they hate the car is not the reason people go into buying these kind of cars smh lol
While the zl1 is cool I'd personally take the performance hit and buy the Chevy SS just for the better interior and overall vehicle to be lived with.
Car looks phenomenal. What are the wheel/tire/suspension spec's?
Wheels are the Ferrada CM2, which here is the link, I believe he also has it up on the gallery to check it out also. Heres the link to the wheels! -Edgar
www.fitmentindustries.com/store/wheels?sort=instock&brand=Ferrada&wmodel=CM2&saleToggle=0&qdToggle=0&suspension=Stock&modification=No%20Modification&rubbing=No%20rubbing%20or%20scrubbing
@@FitmentIndustries Thank you!
Song title for the cyberpunk like track?
Buy an SS supercharge it and save yourself 20k
But.. to actually find one out in the wild man! 🥲 thats also tough. haha -Edgar
I have a 235 hp e46 with a $500 uniden r7 detector, i couldn’t imagine having any car honestly without a detector, let alone a zl1.
Detectors are overhyped. As someone who used to work with designers of radar detectors and radar guns themselves, they really only work in niche situations.
@@engineerisengihere44 yeah they don’t work all the time, but honestly if it worked once it would be worth it based off that. I live in Nebraska with mostly flat straight roads and highways, so I can detect cops over a mile away best case scenario. I had a ticket before I got my detector, wanted one before but got it after. Too many times I’m drivin like 90 or about to have fun and hearing that KA makes me a model citizen. Yes you’re right they don’t work in every situation for everyone but for me it does great. Outta curiosity which company did you work for?
@@M54B30_fan valentine one
My First ticket was with a detector, they basically go off and tell you , you’re FCUKED!!!!
@@engineerisengihere44 my first ticket was without one, second one with. My fault on the second. But it saved me a lot. I’d reccomend pairing with waze if you’re commute is decent. But you can’t be dumb.
Please can you tell me which wheel is that!??
Ferrada CM2s! -Edgar
www.fitmentindustries.com/store/wheels?sort=instock&brand=Ferrada&wmodel=CM2&saleToggle=0&qdToggle=0&suspension=Stock&modification=No%20Modification&rubbing=No%20rubbing%20or%20scrubbing
20”? and did you custom order the black or is that gray?
I had a 79 camera i love camera
Good old Chevy
The last thing I’m thinking about when driving mine is how much plastic is in the interior, lol… it’s a Chevy, not a Cadillac or luxury brand bro
I think mustags are mote known for crashing lol
Such an edgy design ⚡️
I agree! Its a great design for sure. -Edgar
I love the Camaro fitment is top 3 car channels
🙏🙏🙏 gracias! -Edgar
Review was trash... who the hell cares about visibility for a high performance car? Might as well complain about gas mileage, reliability, usability (back seat space, not family friendly, etc). Prob shouldn't review it like if its a Prius or Rav4 Js lol
I need to know what wheels are on that
Ferrada CM2! Here’s a link. -Edgar
www.fitmentindustries.com/store/wheels?sort=instock&brand=Ferrada&wmodel=CM2&saleToggle=0&qdToggle=0&suspension=Stock&modification=No%20Modification&rubbing=No%20rubbing%20or%20scrubbing
@@FitmentIndustries thanks
Most people under the age of 28 can’t afford a ZL1 .
It's actually kinda scary how easy it is to buy a car like this. So many people with more money than sense are going to hurt themselves or someone else driving this car. The kinds of people this car attracts are going to mash the loud pedal at every opportunity without realizing how quickly it can go sideways.
Just a matter of learning the car! Everyone can do it, but i get your point. -Edgar
@@FitmentIndustries Sure they can, but I doubt they would. I've seen a lot of Mustang and Challenger/Chargers with front end and side impact damage and most of them in the SoCal area like that are driven by people with little desire to learn.
The nannies save so many people from flying off the road but at the same time inexperienced drivers never really learn the car's capabilities and limits.
Love my ZL1
wait paddle shifters on a manual stick?
Rev match switches
I have a 2023 zl1 Camaro 10 speed automatic worth every penny way better than Mopar.
61k for a Camaro??? U can Get a used F10 M5 560hp for around 30k and u won't be disappointed, u can even get a used Porsche for 61k...new cars u never know how the vehicle will be long term
It's a BMW , it will disappoint you at some point
@@PARSA-POWER that can be said about any car with just a little bad luck and not doing proper maintenance lol
Yeah a used porches are 60k but that maintenance tho
BMW’s are not reliable though those cars are problematic and I actually have a 2018 ZL1 and It’s been the best bang for my buck hella reliable never had a issue with it
Maintenance no matter what the depreciation is, will always be as if the car is new. No point in buying a 30k M5 only to pay out of the ass on servicing it as if it was still over 100k
Alex is 🔥
I like the zl1 but for the money I think the z28 is way better the 5th gen z28
Noice 🤙🏻
Uh guys, just wondering... Where's Sean? Did I missed something?
He did! He went to pursuit something elsewhere and hes doing good. We still talk to him! -Edgar
@@FitmentIndustries I see. I'm glad to hear he's doing great!!
Audi RS3 MSRP is 60k, good luck finding one for that though.
Tough times for it.. 😵💫 such good cars. -Edgar
I want a good deal… even tho it’s 2022 😓
They are out there!
I think that all the so called dislikes about the Camaro from the 2010 to now is over rated, the Camaro for sure not a car for everyone, I got a 2010 2ss and love it, you really get use to the so called blind spots, but you don't really need to sit there on an intersection and wait to have a clear path to get on to a high way if you know your cars and what your car can do compared to the Corolla that's coming up to you I'm sure you can pick up speed way before the Corolla can slow down for you to merge in line
Lowkey I want to grab a convertible camaro and make a roll cage for it because the blind spots are outrageous in these things 😅 ps gm tech 🤣