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A young woman at a prestigious college in Berlin attends a class entitled “Making Friends 101.” She sits down, and a handsome, young man leans over to her and says “Hi, I’m Stephen.” The woman replies “Shut up Stephen, I’m here to learn”. 😊
i remember reading somewhere the idea that humor evolved out of fear; that it is still essential a fear response. It is easier to understand how this might be true, without going into the scientific evidence, by considering irony. irony may be humorous but there are also bitter and morbid ironies. Irony can be a kind of shield against the paradoxes and arbitrariness of life by imbuing it with some kind of meaning; that funny feeling you get when you see opposites coincide: "Too often a man meets his fate on the road he takes to avoid it." I have seen a quote to this effect attributed to Jung. Crying often has an ecstatic effect in the sense that it causes emotional pain to be transmuted into a state where it is indistinguishable from pleasure. you may even find yourself trying to make the pain worse in the hopes that the crying will be prolonged. So in the same way humor may have it's adaptive roots in processing incongruities as Schopenhauer describes.
Its not only the mismatch between the perception and the idea of a thing that makes something funny, but in that the perception is related to the idea in some way that we find funny. Basically it goes like this in my opinion: 1. If the idea is related but in a non funny way to us, it wont be funny 2. If the idea is related in a way that we can understand how it got mismatched in the first place, we laugh 3. If the idea is totally unrelated to the perception, it might be funny because a random answer is sometimes funny, but not always. A lot of what makes something funny is wording and intonation. Some combination of words are really funny, could it be that that type of arrangement of words feels like a mismatch to us? Great video!
Reposting since my original comment containing a link isn't visible: _About Schopy and humor though: Not only is the preface to the 2nd edition of WWR by far the best preface I've ever read, but it's the funniest standalone section of any philosophical work I've read._ _Though punchy, its style is intended to be only subtly humorous, as is customary with him._
I would just argue that the governing factor of comedy can't be incongruity, because if one tells an incongruous joke, it's not perceived as 'doubly funny; instead, it just 'goes over one's head'. Even to say 'things are funny because they are incongruous' is predicated upon people understanding what 'congruous' situations are in the first place. So any dominant theory of humor/comedy ought to be dependent upon congruity: upon congruous/conformal styles, patterns, rhythms, melodies which the listener understands as 'joke-like'. If anything resembling a 'humorous utterance' fills in the blanks provided by the tropological model being used by the person, then it will be construed as comedic. For example, Buster Keaton being abused is hilarious in the frame of a comedic movie because it's understood to be a comedic movie by the audience and is fulfilling the expected form of a slapstick comedy; if one were to see another get pummeled by a train in real life in a different pragmatic context, it would be far less humorous. Meanwhile, if one fills in a 'knock knock' joke with things which are not construable as humorous (which are in fact, 'incongruous') they are not perceived as funny; instead they are perceived as not fulfilling the expected values of a joke and are thus rejected as unfunny.
I wonder how Schop’s theory of humour factors into our modern conception of online humour. I feel like memes rely less on “set up, pay off” surprises but stupid energy in various forms. All the way from Can I Haz cheeseburger? to I’m On Human tiktoks.
"On the whole, society is an ongoing charade, which makes it disgusting for people of high spiritual cultivation, while empty skulls are in their right element there." Schopenhauer A bit posh sounding but Carlin would have agreed.
Although this is interesting as related to the topic of humor, there remains a kind of narcissistic bile on the part of weltgeist to evaluate his (weltgeist’s) own mental states/health as superior to Schopenhauer’s (“passive-aggressive” and “unaware”). This lack of self-awareness on the part of weltgeist sadly traps himself in a miasma - he can quote Schopenhauer without any deep understanding. But this is quite easy to do because, at one level, Schopenhauer is the clearest and most aphoristic of the great philosophers. Fortunately, however, the ever expanding interest in Schopenhauer in the past 25 years or so has resulted in many original and perceptive analyses and studies being published (in print). Many striking relationships have been revealed: under Schopenhauer’s influence, Wagner intended that his next opera (after Parsifal) - intention only as musical notes do not seem to exist - would be on the life of the Buddha.
The incongruence underlying the fact that it would be funny to hear Schopenhauer telling a joke (bad joke) is that philosophers aren't stereotypically thought to be funny. This bias may have it's origin in scholastics and their alleged hatred for laughter... Someone had to blamed for the loss of the Comedy ! What I find interesting about this comment is that the incongruence underlying what is funny is related with what we believe to be incongruent and that this may not be related necessarily with truth. If philosophers were socially (and traditionally) viewed as jesters, the comment above would not make sense: it would not be funny. But since philosophers are serious as monks, it's funny to imagine a monk cracking a joke haha
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A young woman at a prestigious college in Berlin attends a class entitled “Making Friends 101.” She sits down, and a handsome, young man leans over to her and says “Hi, I’m Stephen.” The woman replies “Shut up Stephen, I’m here to learn”. 😊
That took me a second haha.
LOL
😂😂❤❤ humor
The one with the doctor was a *nail in the coffin*
Two engineers chatting:
- Standards are good
- Ye, I agree, everybody should have one
Best laugh I ever had in months
Explain?
"Don't do it. It would just be one more futile gesture in a lifetime of futile gestures."
--Arthur Schopenhauer suicide hotline.
Belly laugh. Thank you.
i remember reading somewhere the idea that humor evolved out of fear; that it is still essential a fear response. It is easier to understand how this might be true, without going into the scientific evidence, by considering irony. irony may be humorous but there are also bitter and morbid ironies. Irony can be a kind of shield against the paradoxes and arbitrariness of life by imbuing it with some kind of meaning; that funny feeling you get when you see opposites coincide:
"Too often a man meets his fate on the road he takes to avoid it."
I have seen a quote to this effect attributed to Jung.
Crying often has an ecstatic effect in the sense that it causes emotional pain to be transmuted into a state where it is indistinguishable from pleasure. you may even find yourself trying to make the pain worse in the hopes that the crying will be prolonged.
So in the same way humor may have it's adaptive roots in processing incongruities as Schopenhauer describes.
Can you put the evidences
Now I understand why some women are really into S&M.
@@uxbf_hdnc can you learn what the word idea means?
Yeah it’s always hilarious reading his works where he’s like “I mentioned this elsewhere so go there and read”
The joke of asking if the police man was on the bill actually gave me a good chuckle.
I have a joke: The Phenomenology of Spirit
Its not only the mismatch between the perception and the idea of a thing that makes something funny, but in that the perception is related to the idea in some way that we find funny.
Basically it goes like this in my opinion:
1. If the idea is related but in a non funny way to us, it wont be funny
2. If the idea is related in a way that we can understand how it got mismatched in the first place, we laugh
3. If the idea is totally unrelated to the perception, it might be funny because a random answer is sometimes funny, but not always.
A lot of what makes something funny is wording and intonation. Some combination of words are really funny, could it be that that type of arrangement of words feels like a mismatch to us? Great video!
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That horse bit slaps
Ahh finally a new video! 😊
Reposting since my original comment containing a link isn't visible: _About Schopy and humor though: Not only is the preface to the 2nd edition of WWR by far the best preface I've ever read, but it's the funniest standalone section of any philosophical work I've read._
_Though punchy, its style is intended to be only subtly humorous, as is customary with him._
Please upload regularly
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Another great video! Do you guys ever plan on doing a “Why Nietzsche Liked Spinoza” video?
Most probably
Didn't he insult spinoza in his beyond good and evil book?
@@afrosamourai400 He had his criticisms of Spinoza but he considered his philosophy to be a direct predecessor to his own
@@WeltgeistYT lees & doe een video over "het gelijk van spinoza"
@@afrosamourai400 He insulted everyone he had any admiration for. Explicitly so.
I would just argue that the governing factor of comedy can't be incongruity, because if one tells an incongruous joke, it's not perceived as 'doubly funny; instead, it just 'goes over one's head'. Even to say 'things are funny because they are incongruous' is predicated upon people understanding what 'congruous' situations are in the first place. So any dominant theory of humor/comedy ought to be dependent upon congruity: upon congruous/conformal styles, patterns, rhythms, melodies which the listener understands as 'joke-like'. If anything resembling a 'humorous utterance' fills in the blanks provided by the tropological model being used by the person, then it will be construed as comedic.
For example, Buster Keaton being abused is hilarious in the frame of a comedic movie because it's understood to be a comedic movie by the audience and is fulfilling the expected form of a slapstick comedy; if one were to see another get pummeled by a train in real life in a different pragmatic context, it would be far less humorous. Meanwhile, if one fills in a 'knock knock' joke with things which are not construable as humorous (which are in fact, 'incongruous') they are not perceived as funny; instead they are perceived as not fulfilling the expected values of a joke and are thus rejected as unfunny.
i think I'd get along really well with Schop. We have a similar sense of humor.
A German with a sense of humor IS an incongruity😅
I wonder how Schopenhauer would react to hood irony
He was a optimist
Seeing you change the title to get more views haha
I wonder how Schop’s theory of humour factors into our modern conception of online humour. I feel like memes rely less on “set up, pay off” surprises but stupid energy in various forms. All the way from Can I Haz cheeseburger? to I’m On Human tiktoks.
More philosophy and humor videos please!
I think I am in Romantic love with Schopenhauer
Gay
Would you kiss my bones then?
GaY
@@ruthless7879 women do exist, he could be a woman hahaha
@@arma5166 his name doesn’t imply that
I like the doctor joke.
Humor I believe mostly comes from a high degree of intelligence. We need that to make those mental models and generalities.
unintentional humor is up there, Cioran might be another
Haha,yes,Cioran as well :)
I kinda get the vibe George carlin andnl Schopenhauer have similar outlook on life lol.
"On the whole, society is an ongoing charade, which makes it disgusting for people of high spiritual cultivation, while empty skulls are in their right element there." Schopenhauer
A bit posh sounding but Carlin would have agreed.
Schopenhauer and Ebeneezer Scrooge look like they had the same sense of humor.
You live and learn. Didn't know there is a "theory of humor." That's funny!
Although this is interesting as related to the topic of humor, there remains a kind of narcissistic bile on the part of weltgeist to evaluate his (weltgeist’s) own mental states/health as superior to Schopenhauer’s (“passive-aggressive” and “unaware”). This lack of self-awareness on the part of weltgeist sadly traps himself in a miasma - he can quote Schopenhauer without any deep understanding. But this is quite easy to do because, at one level, Schopenhauer is the clearest and most aphoristic of the great philosophers.
Fortunately, however, the ever expanding interest in Schopenhauer in the past 25 years or so has resulted in many original and perceptive analyses and studies being published (in print). Many striking relationships have been revealed: under Schopenhauer’s influence, Wagner intended that his next opera (after Parsifal) - intention only as musical notes do not seem to exist - would be on the life of the Buddha.
Why do people laugh ?
🎉
I guess you had to be there...
Hello
that was the worst joke I've heard since Schopenhauer didn't tell it.
The incongruence underlying the fact that it would be funny to hear Schopenhauer telling a joke (bad joke) is that philosophers aren't stereotypically thought to be funny. This bias may have it's origin in scholastics and their alleged hatred for laughter... Someone had to blamed for the loss of the Comedy !
What I find interesting about this comment is that the incongruence underlying what is funny is related with what we believe to be incongruent and that this may not be related necessarily with truth. If philosophers were socially (and traditionally) viewed as jesters, the comment above would not make sense: it would not be funny. But since philosophers are serious as monks, it's funny to imagine a monk cracking a joke haha
I printed out 500,000 paper flyers for a save the trees rally
ja he was a genius obviously! but stickler stickler on the wall: isnt it Schopenhauer got Jokes?!
The least funny people come up with a "theory of humor". We laugh the most when we play, not when we are in logical modes of thinking.
Don’t show this to Trey Parker…
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