so i've been exploring the world of disc golf throwers.. one thing thats probably just inherent to big throws that rowan probably might not notice is the acceleration of the rotation of the hips before the arm goes through (similar to in golf.. where the hips rotate forward before the swing goes through).. much of the disc golf world saids most of the momentum from the throw is coming from the hips and the arm just acts like a whip.. note: i saw someone's post below comment on their sore elbow.. i wonder if they are putting too much arm and too little hip rotation..
I've developed a bit of elbow pain from bad backhand form and a little bit of overuse. Is there anything you'd recommend as prevention? I'd prefer not to have to learn how to throw from scratch again, seeing as it took far too long the first time around, but if that's what it takes I'll do it.
I'm not a PT but a couple things that help me not get too sore on the backhand: 1) let my lower body get ahead so it pulls my elbow and i don't have to drive my elbow too hard 2) use a lot of wrist to take the pressure off the elbow 3) follow through to dissipate the force. warm up and cool down!
I used to get a little tennis elbow from my throwing sessions, I did two things which helped immediately. Training triceps with a focus on a slow eccentric part of the movement and wearing a sleeve on my throwing arm. With that being said when I fixed my form I didn’t need to do those things anymore.
Hey Rowan - great video.. I'm wondering if you aim for a specific height off the ground when you throw long? I know it wasn't one of your focuses here but I'm still curious. Jonny Malks has a video of him throwing through a football upright and I thought that was neat - do you visualize some kind of upright target to throw through, or what do you think of to aim your hucks?
No target on this session. For me the height is dictated by the nose angle, and I do a lot of practice with that edge. There's a sweet spot in getting enough height to fight gravity and go max distance versus too much height where the disc stalls and loses max distance. so just work on that nose angle control!
@@RowanMcDonnell any pointers on working on that noise angle? I wanted to ask a local player who I've seen huck beauties that coast softly at the end. They look so easy to catch it's amazing. Never got the chance...
Any tips on getting control over the bigger throws? I can do dishier passes and huck around 60-80% of my "strength," but when I go over that, it tends to get more unpredictable, and I lose touch.
Honestly increasing your uncontrollable maximum distance will also make your 60-80% a longer throw. For example if you can throw 50 yards, your 35 yarder will be precise. So bump that 50 yards to 60 yards and now your 42 yarder will be controlled.
I think part of it is shifting the weight and momentum onto the front foot very suddenly, without the traction of cleats. Also he does say explicitly that he's not focusing on his "stability" and footing so much as just the arm speed and wrist snap.
@@genericembarrassingusernam7843 didn't realize this wasn't in cleats.. Was throwing full field length throws last night and I noticed my leg position seemed wider, balanced and i had way more tension in my legs when planting , so it seemed so different to me seeing it here. Would love to see a refined version with more legwork overview as I believe that to be important in throwing big too
After a bunch of pandemic disc golf, I've been trying to add that extra distance to my hucks as well. That huge turnover that you threw with your first backahnd is exactly the type of thing I've been seeing in my pulls and big hucks that I'm trying to cut out of my game. One thing that has been helping is extending my reach back a bit, which I found from this Ezra Aderhold video ua-cam.com/video/uQIzQcY05nE/v-deo.html which helps me hit a more consistent angle on my far throws. trying to over-exaggerate the 110 degree angle that he shows later in the video helps to clear the disc from my side and remove any rounding that might be occurring. Something to potentially play around with :)
Thank you Rowan 🙏🙏
Thank you for watching!
so i've been exploring the world of disc golf throwers.. one thing thats probably just inherent to big throws that rowan probably might not notice is the acceleration of the rotation of the hips before the arm goes through (similar to in golf.. where the hips rotate forward before the swing goes through).. much of the disc golf world saids most of the momentum from the throw is coming from the hips and the arm just acts like a whip.. note: i saw someone's post below comment on their sore elbow.. i wonder if they are putting too much arm and too little hip rotation..
I've developed a bit of elbow pain from bad backhand form and a little bit of overuse. Is there anything you'd recommend as prevention? I'd prefer not to have to learn how to throw from scratch again, seeing as it took far too long the first time around, but if that's what it takes I'll do it.
I'm not a PT but a couple things that help me not get too sore on the backhand:
1) let my lower body get ahead so it pulls my elbow and i don't have to drive my elbow too hard
2) use a lot of wrist to take the pressure off the elbow
3) follow through to dissipate the force.
warm up and cool down!
I used to get a little tennis elbow from my throwing sessions, I did two things which helped immediately. Training triceps with a focus on a slow eccentric part of the movement and wearing a sleeve on my throwing arm. With that being said when I fixed my form I didn’t need to do those things anymore.
Neat, alright. I'll try to work this into my next throwing session, which... can't say when it'll be unfortunately. :(
Hey Rowan - great video.. I'm wondering if you aim for a specific height off the ground when you throw long? I know it wasn't one of your focuses here but I'm still curious. Jonny Malks has a video of him throwing through a football upright and I thought that was neat - do you visualize some kind of upright target to throw through, or what do you think of to aim your hucks?
No target on this session. For me the height is dictated by the nose angle, and I do a lot of practice with that edge. There's a sweet spot in getting enough height to fight gravity and go max distance versus too much height where the disc stalls and loses max distance. so just work on that nose angle control!
@@RowanMcDonnell any pointers on working on that noise angle? I wanted to ask a local player who I've seen huck beauties that coast softly at the end. They look so easy to catch it's amazing. Never got the chance...
He's back!!
What brand do you buy your discs?
Great video. Would be nice to see you leg movement; it didn't fully appear on the frame
The video I needed. Thanks Rowan
That's why I'm here! Thank you
Can u pls make another video on how to read/throw on diff type of wind?
We have an entire course dealing with throwing in the wind on excel ultimate! www.excelultimate.com 👀
Any tips on getting control over the bigger throws? I can do dishier passes and huck around 60-80% of my "strength," but when I go over that, it tends to get more unpredictable, and I lose touch.
Honestly increasing your uncontrollable maximum distance will also make your 60-80% a longer throw. For example if you can throw 50 yards, your 35 yarder will be precise. So bump that 50 yards to 60 yards and now your 42 yarder will be controlled.
I have the same hat. Life’s crazy.
Hey whts the weight of The Frisbee you use caused just started playing
If I make no mistakes, official disks weight 185g (if not 180).
Edit : as pointed out by another comment bellow, I was wrong, they weight in fact 175g
@@luciolewater9051 I played for 10 years, pretty sure they are 175g unless they made a change very recently.
@@disccovered6392 you're 100% right, my mistake, checked on discraft's site, they weight 175 indeed
What's a max distance throw with a lid for you in no wind?
probably 75-80 on the forehand and 85-90 on the backhand. Might have to do a field test!
Did you ever find the first disc you threw in the backhand set?
i did! can't leave a disc behind :)
Hey Rowan, does it matter to you whether you practice throwing with cleats or sneakers?
normally will wear cleats for focused throwing training but I had just played a tournament and gave the feet a little break.
@@RowanMcDonnell Got it, thanks!
for forehand you look unstable and not as ridged as i expect. also the little hop or fall after is weird too to me.
I think part of it is shifting the weight and momentum onto the front foot very suddenly, without the traction of cleats. Also he does say explicitly that he's not focusing on his "stability" and footing so much as just the arm speed and wrist snap.
Well put ^^
I also use my lead leg as a brace to increase rotation and when the snap occurs i always tend to bounce backwards
@@genericembarrassingusernam7843 didn't realize this wasn't in cleats.. Was throwing full field length throws last night and I noticed my leg position seemed wider, balanced and i had way more tension in my legs when planting , so it seemed so different to me seeing it here. Would love to see a refined version with more legwork overview as I believe that to be important in throwing big too
After a bunch of pandemic disc golf, I've been trying to add that extra distance to my hucks as well. That huge turnover that you threw with your first backahnd is exactly the type of thing I've been seeing in my pulls and big hucks that I'm trying to cut out of my game. One thing that has been helping is extending my reach back a bit, which I found from this Ezra Aderhold video ua-cam.com/video/uQIzQcY05nE/v-deo.html which helps me hit a more consistent angle on my far throws. trying to over-exaggerate the 110 degree angle that he shows later in the video helps to clear the disc from my side and remove any rounding that might be occurring. Something to potentially play around with :)
Also as weightlifter and looking at Rowan's I can tell he can benefit from bulking like 40 lbs, and probably wouldn't lose much speed @Rowan
lol 40 might be a bit much
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hahaha f brodie smith