@@illnamethisaccountlater4762 Actually, if you knew anything about football you’d be aware that for the majority of the 2010s La liga was the superior league. This can be verified just from looking at the performances of la liga teams (apart from Barca, real, and atletico) against premier league teams in European competitions. Spain were better. This is just a fact. Oh and btw, Messi scored more goals against the premier league top 6 than ronaldo, without even playing in the league.
@@illnamethisaccountlater4762 la liga such a joke league there was an era where the champions league was literally in Spain for at least 5 years running…. Think about what your saying 😂😂😂
@@e10venom so because the league has three good teams it makes the overall league strong ?? How does that make any sense? Real madrid, Barca and atletico are good. Sevilla have been decent but once you get past those teams the league is weak. That is why there were numerous ocassions where Barca would 5 up by half time.
@@illnamethisaccountlater4762 why didnt you respond to the first comment? Lol. Just accept that Messi is in his own league abd not even Ronaldo has a chance.
I was fortunate to see Messi play live against Arsenal at the Emirates. He was electrifying and terrifying. The ball was literally glued to his feet, and the Arsenal players were chasing his shadow the whole game. Unbelievable footballer, and far better than Ronaldo..
Messi is far and away the best of the modern era. I watched Messi live at Wembley in 2018 and dear God, I wish I'd recorded some of the fans reactions of his play. Head in hands etc etc.
My sister who’s an arsenal fan went to the match when Messi scored 4 against them. She goes the arsenal fans were talking about how good this guy was on the plane back home.
@@redlavish7027I watched that game on TV back home here in the UK (as an Arsenal fan), and that ridiculous "dink" over the goalkeeper, for his 1st Half hat-trick is seared in my memory forever (it also had one of the best English commentaries ever......"Oh brilliant!! An audacious chip, from the magical Lionel Messi. THE most talented footballer, of his generation!!"). That goal, and his second goal against Bayern, where he twists Boateng into a bit a pretzel!😍
A lot of people calling Wilshere dull, but at least he isn't the usual faux bubbly pundit pumping out platitudes - seems like he is just being himself. It's refreshing
91 goals and 113 g/a in a callender year, don't think we'll ever see a players' prime like this ever repeated at the peak of their powers. Messi's top 3 callender year performances with 113, 95 and 90g/a all have more g/a than Ronaldos best ever year in 2013 with 86 g/a.
And that's just G/A. Arguably Messi's impact stretches way beyond the simple measure of goals and assists. How many secondary assists does he have, how many attacks has he built and created from his insane dribbling, vision and passing? Every time he played versus a team, they had to adjust their gameplan to defend him. They had to be ready to allocate 2-4 players every time he got near the ball. Just his presence created space for his teammates.
I've been very fortunate to watch Messi at the Camp Nou and his change of direction was the most outstanding thing for me. Subject to that was how explosive and balanced he was with it, as well as what Jack referred too in his "strength and control". Truly unique.
@@jaydee4988 God is good indeed, He gave us Messi for good 20yrs and kept him from being injured or lackadaisical with his career like some great talents who faded off.. We would have thought that Ronaldo was the pinnacle of the game with his logetivity, he would have bodly claimed goat and nobody would contend.. I thank God for keeping Messi 🙏🏽
It’s actually really sad to think that the Ronaldo and messi era is over.. at one point we had players like messi, Ronaldo, Xavi, Iniesta, David Villa and so on all in their primes .. what a time for football that was
Stop hating on man! I was there at that game, so good to see a young Englishman boss the game against a peak Barca team! Not that shower of 💩 u beat 4-0 a co of years ago! 👀🤣
As a Arsenal fan I can honestly say Jack Wilshire was class. Messi, Xavi, Iniesta and Sergio B was probably the best 4 when it came to skills, passing and dribbling in Modern day football.
Ex pro’s and existing pros know why messi is the best. People who don’t know the game or not played it at a high level don’t understand the real value of messi’s qualities all natural qualities.
Absolutely, spot on! I was always surprised at how people can choose Ronaldo over Messi!!! Messi is by far the greatest player of this era. There is no question about that. The way he plays, he is a magician, a true genius!
I saw a La Liga game at Camp Nou against Atletico. Saw prime Messi, Iniesta, Xavi and Falcao (who scored a great goal in a 1-4 defeat and had the best movement I've ever seen). Hearing the Barca fans chanting "Messi Messi Messi" was unreal. Alexis scored the goal of the game btw
What people forget (In particular the EPL fans), is that Messi has a better goal scoring ratio than Ronaldo. Ronaldo has played around 150 games more than Messi, and he is like 40 goals behind. On top of that you have the crazy amount of assists. The man is not from this world. Unbelievable footballer, the best I have ever seen. I think deep down, Ronaldo and his fans will always force an agenda, but they know Messi is and always has been the better player 🤷♂️.
I'm a Liverpool fan, and I just think they are both amazing. But I think Ronaldos journey from sporting to united at such a young age and scoring all the goals In all the top leagues just gives him the edge. But that's my opinion. Yours is Messi and I respect that aswel. I'm just glad I've got to watch both rip it up through out there careers 👍
@@Redmen1983 I think it's just preference, but the stats prove Messi is a better player. However, even ignoring the stats, Messi's style of play is far more attractive than Ronaldo's.
@@Redmen1983 I think the difference is Ronaldo can only dream of doing things with a ball in a way Messi can...nobody apart from maradona can manipulate a ball in the way Messi can. That's why Ronaldo from a skill level is nowhere near the level of Messi. Ronaldo is more the prototype footballer where he excels in everything he does but Messi.s level is on a different planet, universe and stratosphere.
What i find amazing is that when you consider that Messi who barely ever scores headed goals is so close to CR7 in goals overall and has played so many less games!!
One more scenario - while taking the coroners, messi usually kicks them or stay out of the box to feed the teammates unlike Ronaldo always tries to find the best possible spot to head or kick the ball back in the net and I don't remember Ronaldo kicking the coroner balls..
My word…I’m speechless just hearing him talk. I can just imagine everything in a first person some short left footed baller with long messy hair just running at you, ball glued to his feet, you see the ball and reach for it *tap and you’re on the floor and he’s still going now running at your back line.
That is his technique, players pass the ball when confronted by defenders. Messi runs straight at you and 3 others, he creates chaos and defenders don't know what to do. That is why he is so devastating cuz he alone can destabilize an entire defence.
In fairness to Jack, that night at the Emirates he was absolutely world class. I'm a United fan but that's still one of my favourite individual performances ever.
@2dowde obviously but his balance and ability to ride challenges from defenders with clear intent to break him is crazy. He’s bodied the likes of Ramos and Casemiro many times
I have a feeling Jack is going to become an excellent pundit.. He's smart, funny, insightful and sharp on the comeback. I really like listening to what he has to say.
As a Barcelona fan the only player in the world that I ever hoped to play for Barcelona at their prime was Jack Wilshire despite his young age then.. I honestly believe that Jack is one of the best talented players that Britain has had recently but unfortunately this great talent was catastrophically lost in some kind of way. .💔💔
Messi pulled is apart those years in 09-11 . He single handedly ripped is from UCL year on year. At that time we spent know he was going to be the best player ever. We were killed off with cesc, Evp, Rambo, jWilshere, Nasri, Chichy , Sangha. Could do nothing
Jack was the truth if injuries and stupid club decisions hadn’t happened would’ve been insane to watch his full potential combination of scholes and Iniesta
That dribbling talent that Messi has is all natural. Barca helped him understand the game structure and gave him the perfect environment for that talent to develop
Yeah, if not for his polystyrene ankles he'd be an Arsenal legend by now. He had to change from a technically brilliant combative box to box midfielder to a delicate number 10, tragic really. Still love the guy thoigh
They say, when you visualize things perfectly and clamly those start to become intuition. And will be implemented slowly in your movements, messi might have gifted talent, but not everyone can use it perfectly, he had a blur vision of arena back then when his intuition become his skills he is now one of the best playmakers of all time
Messi top 3 passers of all time, for me no.1 (all the assists) , top 3 goals scorers of all time, for me no.1 (goals per game ratio), top dribbler of all time (like velcro on his shoes). Tell me another player that complete. The GOAT, these attributes set him apart from cr7 etc.
that strength these talk about is balance ,riding the tackle etc. , yes , we can train you to do the skills,, but never when too. most men , can not comprehend another man thinking faster than them. speed of thought, we know what you will do before you even get the ball, etc.
Tbh I'm a gooner & I thought Xavi/Iniesta dominated the game as usual. Wilshere held his own which is amazing at 19 vs such opposition, but he far from dominated. No one ever dominated them (in their prime or anywhere near) & I don't think anybody could.
@@Gino565 you dont get it. french league has now overtaken laliga due to uefa ratings but la liga is still more competitive. just as mourinho. if you are able to beat barcelona and athletico madrid. you win the league. ronaldo had like 450+ goals at madrid compared to 100+ in epl. epl was more competitve when messi started his career and in the spanish league from 2004 it was all barcelona till mourinho came in 2010. and with them being the prime teams madrid and barcelona ir made it easier for them to score more goals. Bayern could be the best team or worst in europe but will still manage to be far better than the rest in the league. that doesnt make the league competitve than others if the become the best in europe.
@@danielamankona5303 But la liga was overall a better league than the premier league for most of the 2010s. Ronaldo didn’t score as many goals in the premier league because 1. He took a while to actually start scoring goals consistently because early in his career he wasn’t world class. And 2. He was there for a shorter period of time. For majority of the 2010s, the average Spanish team would beat the average premiership team.
@@Gino565 how many goals did he even score in his prime and from 2004 to 2010 spanish teams hardly beat epl teams. it was tougher than the spanish league until most teams needed rebuild. just like barcelona.
3:23 the ignorant chap at the left, who thinks Barcelona influenced Messi, should watch one of the videos of Messi when he was 9 or 10 years old playing in his Argentine team (Newell's Old Boys) before going to Barcelona.
Man really said ronaldo on the ball in front of you is more terrifying than messi 😨 a whole squad would be terrified, messi can slip through a squad by himself where as ronaldo would do a couple of step overs resulting in either pulling back and passing someone else or one or two times actually passing ONE player 🙃 but cristiano's finishing aint a joke, that i respect
Messi with the ball at his feet? No thanks! 😅 I will not be part of that! I will not be part of that! 😂😅😊 he knows he got rip out and get burn 🔥. I always admire player that speaks the truth even to the expense that they look under to the player they praises. I see it as not weakness but a true man and sportsman!
If we play the team from the first leg i think we beat Barcelona at Camp Nou. We didn’t try to counter attack them enough. We missed Walcott’s pace & playing Cesc who was unfit was stupid by Wenger. Nasri RVP Walcott Wilshere Song Diaby We probably win the second leg with this line up, Bendther cost us in the end with that shocking miss so we still could’ve gone through, In the end Barca needed a cheap red card to win, we came back to 1-1 and immediately Arsenal get a red card, Uefa was on their side. Cheap victory from a dirty team, i’m so glad they’re suffering in the Europa.
Will never understand why people compare Ronaldo and Messi. Ronaldo is just a goalscorer. Messi is at whole different level to Ronaldo in nearly every aspect of the game.
Ronaldo may have come somewhat close with his goal count.. But in terms of Quality and Skill nobody came close to him in this gebration and very possibly ever !
Played on the same pitch as prime Messi, what an honour
Got the shirt at the end of the game as well. Incredible
Messi's been prime for almost 15 years now bud
Who did you play for Tiller
Got the man of the match that game too
@@aaaassss447 And counting!!!👍
Never seen anyone doing things with football on their feet like Messi, beyond imagination
Born for this game
i recall Arbelola having Messi in his back pocket both home and away under Rafa
he is the only one that can play better than himself
@@terrysmith9362 who😂?
@@yesmyninja6850 hw went on to olay for Real Madrid
Maradona was better, ball was stuck to his feet.
Messi has 43 less goals in 146 less games, but he has 90 more assists.
For a large part of his career Ronaldo played in the premier league, not that joke of a league referred to as la liga.
@@illnamethisaccountlater4762 Actually, if you knew anything about football you’d be aware that for the majority of the 2010s La liga was the superior league. This can be verified just from looking at the performances of la liga teams (apart from Barca, real, and atletico) against premier league teams in European competitions. Spain were better. This is just a fact. Oh and btw, Messi scored more goals against the premier league top 6 than ronaldo, without even playing in the league.
@@illnamethisaccountlater4762 la liga such a joke league there was an era where the champions league was literally in Spain for at least 5 years running…. Think about what your saying 😂😂😂
@@e10venom so because the league has three good teams it makes the overall league strong ?? How does that make any sense?
Real madrid, Barca and atletico are good. Sevilla have been decent but once you get past those teams the league is weak. That is why there were numerous ocassions where Barca would 5 up by half time.
@@illnamethisaccountlater4762 why didnt you respond to the first comment? Lol. Just accept that Messi is in his own league abd not even Ronaldo has a chance.
I was fortunate to see Messi play live against Arsenal at the Emirates. He was electrifying and terrifying. The ball was literally glued to his feet, and the Arsenal players were chasing his shadow the whole game. Unbelievable footballer, and far better than Ronaldo..
Far better I think that's just an opinion we seen numerous occasions what CR did to Arsenal
@@justsmizzfrmdao7206 nope
Literally glued to his feet. Literally.
Talent wise.But ALL ROUND
ability? Ronaldo all day........
@@JayNubi nope
Messi is far and away the best of the modern era.
I watched Messi live at Wembley in 2018 and dear God, I wish I'd recorded some of the fans reactions of his play. Head in hands etc etc.
tell me more. what happened how people reacted to best player ever?
My sister who’s an arsenal fan went to the match when Messi scored 4 against them. She goes the arsenal fans were talking about how good this guy was on the plane back home.
@@redlavish7027 without a shadow of doubt lionel messi is the greatest football player of all time
@ْ drink 8 glasses of water daily
@@redlavish7027I watched that game on TV back home here in the UK (as an Arsenal fan), and that ridiculous "dink" over the goalkeeper, for his 1st Half hat-trick is seared in my memory forever (it also had one of the best English commentaries ever......"Oh brilliant!! An audacious chip, from the magical Lionel Messi. THE most talented footballer, of his generation!!"). That goal, and his second goal against Bayern, where he twists Boateng into a bit a pretzel!😍
A lot of people calling Wilshere dull, but at least he isn't the usual faux bubbly pundit pumping out platitudes - seems like he is just being himself. It's refreshing
91 goals and 113 g/a in a callender year, don't think we'll ever see a players' prime like this ever repeated at the peak of their powers. Messi's top 3 callender year performances with 113, 95 and 90g/a all have more g/a than Ronaldos best ever year in 2013 with 86 g/a.
You don't compare calendar years. You compare seasons
@gutzz same thing ya mup
@@hook8535 how
@@gutzz1519 same story with seasons. Probably in more in favour of Messi actually lol
And that's just G/A. Arguably Messi's impact stretches way beyond the simple measure of goals and assists. How many secondary assists does he have, how many attacks has he built and created from his insane dribbling, vision and passing? Every time he played versus a team, they had to adjust their gameplan to defend him. They had to be ready to allocate 2-4 players every time he got near the ball. Just his presence created space for his teammates.
I've been very fortunate to watch Messi at the Camp Nou and his change of direction was the most outstanding thing for me. Subject to that was how explosive and balanced he was with it, as well as what Jack referred too in his "strength and control". Truly unique.
it‘s like the ball is just another bodypart of him
really privileged to have seen him live
He basically played his whole career with maybe 5 injuries with non being serious.
@@jaydee4988 God is good indeed, He gave us Messi for good 20yrs and kept him from being injured or lackadaisical with his career like some great talents who faded off.. We would have thought that Ronaldo was the pinnacle of the game with his logetivity, he would have bodly claimed goat and nobody would contend.. I thank God for keeping Messi 🙏🏽
It’s actually really sad to think that the Ronaldo and messi era is over.. at one point we had players like messi, Ronaldo, Xavi, Iniesta, David Villa and so on all in their primes .. what a time for football that was
@sf2explus yep it’s more about systems, tactics and formations in today’s game.
grealish tho
In fairness, today we have Joelinton.
David Villa?
Late 90s early 00s was crazy
Darren's reaction at the thought of being run at by Messi, was priceless.
Watching Messi play is like watching an artist with a paintbrush. It's poetry in motion you literally can't believe what you are watching.
Games played by Messi is far less, 100-150 lesser than Cristiano. But only 40-50 goals behind him
True hes gone to the Uber eats too catch him up
145 less i think
and not even a striker lol
Yea Messi is easily better
Messi plays in centre midfield for like 20 years lol
I thought he was gonna talk about when Messi scored 4 past arsenal in 2010, but 2011 2 legs were also amazing.
Stop hating on man! I was there at that game, so good to see a young Englishman boss the game against a peak Barca team! Not that shower of 💩 u beat 4-0 a co of years ago! 👀🤣
He wasn’t part of that arsenal team
Possibly one of the best of the performances I’ve seen Jack play, outclassed possibly the best 3 midfield trio by himself.
As a Arsenal fan I can honestly say Jack Wilshire was class. Messi, Xavi, Iniesta and Sergio B was probably the best 4 when it came to skills, passing and dribbling in Modern day football.
Messi the most complete footballer player ever 👏
He will have the most goals and assists when he retires
@@ahmedibrahim5800 ronaldo will have the most goals
Complete? With no heading ability and a weak right foot? Find the correct adjective because complete is not it. R9 was complete, not Messi.
@@mediacenterman8583 still miles ahead of everyone.
@@freezingcold3702
Yh obviously he’s miles ahead of everyone that’s a given
Ex pro’s and existing pros know why messi is the best.
People who don’t know the game or not played it at a high level don’t understand the real value of messi’s qualities all natural qualities.
Absolutely, spot on! I was always surprised at how people can choose Ronaldo over Messi!!! Messi is by far the greatest player of this era. There is no question about that. The way he plays, he is a magician, a true genius!
I saw a La Liga game at Camp Nou against Atletico. Saw prime Messi, Iniesta, Xavi and Falcao (who scored a great goal in a 1-4 defeat and had the best movement I've ever seen).
Hearing the Barca fans chanting "Messi Messi Messi" was unreal.
Alexis scored the goal of the game btw
Yeah Prem fans by and large judge Falcao harshly because they saw him after he did his cruciate, but was a phenomenon at Porto and Atleti
"I'm deceivingly tall" classic footballer!
What people forget (In particular the EPL fans), is that Messi has a better goal scoring ratio than Ronaldo. Ronaldo has played around 150 games more than Messi, and he is like 40 goals behind.
On top of that you have the crazy amount of assists.
The man is not from this world. Unbelievable footballer, the best I have ever seen.
I think deep down, Ronaldo and his fans will always force an agenda, but they know Messi is and always has been the better player 🤷♂️.
The assists is just crazy! His assist and goals alone he’s miles ahead of the rest. The pass accuracy is near 90% in his career it’s just mad
I'm a Liverpool fan, and I just think they are both amazing. But I think Ronaldos journey from sporting to united at such a young age and scoring all the goals In all the top leagues just gives him the edge. But that's my opinion. Yours is Messi and I respect that aswel. I'm just glad I've got to watch both rip it up through out there careers 👍
@@Redmen1983 I think it's just preference, but the stats prove Messi is a better player. However, even ignoring the stats, Messi's style of play is far more attractive than Ronaldo's.
@@Redmen1983 how can u honestly think ronaldo is better than messi? Yeah ronaldo is fantastic but a player like Lionel we have never seen.
@@Redmen1983 I think the difference is Ronaldo can only dream of doing things with a ball in a way Messi can...nobody apart from maradona can manipulate a ball in the way Messi can.
That's why Ronaldo from a skill level is nowhere near the level of Messi.
Ronaldo is more the prototype footballer where he excels in everything he does but Messi.s level is on a different planet, universe and stratosphere.
What i find amazing is that when you consider that Messi who barely ever scores headed goals is so close to CR7 in goals overall and has played so many less games!!
Agreed. Messi has a better goal ratio than Ronaldo too.
One more scenario - while taking the coroners, messi usually kicks them or stay out of the box to feed the teammates unlike Ronaldo always tries to find the best possible spot to head or kick the ball back in the net and I don't remember Ronaldo kicking the coroner balls..
@@rawesome1 his job is to score and he's being scorned for scoring corners 🤣🤣🤣🤣 what a world ay 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@@toniedwards419 because he stayed in a league dominated by 1 team like Celtic in Scotland 😩 that's easy very easy to do
As I said it's cos he stayed in a less competitive league flat track bullying the lesser teams for his numbers 🙄🙄🙄
Jack coming out his shell each appearance! Would have to see the science on the 5''9 claim mind 😂😂
He’s using the same measuring tape as Joe Rogan!
Having walked by him at the O2, he is not 5ft9. When he greeted Giroud, it was like Peter Crouch meeting Zola.
Hes 5ft7 max. Met him once - I'm 6ft6 and he was below my shoulder
Jack always seems like u cant be bothered to tell the story 😂
My word…I’m speechless just hearing him talk. I can just imagine everything in a first person some short left footed baller with long messy hair just running at you, ball glued to his feet, you see the ball and reach for it *tap and you’re on the floor and he’s still going now running at your back line.
That is his technique, players pass the ball when confronted by defenders. Messi runs straight at you and 3 others, he creates chaos and defenders don't know what to do. That is why he is so devastating cuz he alone can destabilize an entire defence.
In 2011, the year before 2012, Messi had 36 assists in the calendar year of 2011...🔥🔥🔥⚽️⚽️⚽️🙌🙌🙌
In fairness to Jack, that night at the Emirates he was absolutely world class. I'm a United fan but that's still one of my favourite individual performances ever.
Wilshere was a really good player. Reminds me a bit about Foden when I think about it
Why is the host going in on Jack's height? Let the man speak about his experience of playing against the worlds best player
Is strength Messi's most undervalued attribute?
It's his playmaking ability which is undervalued... His assists, passing and chance creation is unreal. Far superior to Ronaldo..
@2dowde obviously but his balance and ability to ride challenges from defenders with clear intent to break him is crazy. He’s bodied the likes of Ramos and Casemiro many times
Did he lose a bet, wearing a United shirt 🤣🤣
Darren bent kills me in these.. the 3 of them are the best together
I have a feeling Jack is going to become an excellent pundit.. He's smart, funny, insightful and sharp on the comeback. I really like listening to what he has to say.
West Ham fans disagree.
@@mediacenterman8583 All well and good. I guess he’s not exactly Trevor Brooking. Good luck for the rest of the year fella! Stay safe.
As a Barcelona fan the only player in the world that I ever hoped to play for Barcelona at their prime was Jack Wilshire despite his young age then.. I honestly believe that Jack is one of the best talented players that Britain has had recently but unfortunately this great talent was catastrophically lost in some kind of way. .💔💔
the greatest athlete of all time he was just God gifted
messi with the ball at his feet? i dont want any part of that lmao
Messi running towards you must be a terrifying experience💀
And they say he isn't the best goalscorer lmao
I really like this trio, keep it going please
Standing in the tunnel was as close as Arsenal got to Messi.
yet still beat them that night!
@@corpgov Warra UCL for assna
@@corpgov lol
They won 2-1 lol
Arsenal actually won the game you muppet 🤪
Messi pulled is apart those years in 09-11 . He single handedly ripped is from UCL year on year. At that time we spent know he was going to be the best player ever. We were killed off with cesc, Evp, Rambo, jWilshere, Nasri, Chichy , Sangha. Could do nothing
All top 7 teams in the epl messi has literally destroyed all of em and people think he can’t crack it in the epl lol
@@a.k.aemperor2365 he literally couldn't score a single goal against chelsea from 2006 to 2012 despite facing them 8 times during that period.
@@meks1478 it dont matter he still did it didn't he?
@@a.k.aemperor2365 you're right he did after a 12 year drought. Waited until the core of that Chelsea team were no longer there
the greatest of all time
Jack was the truth if injuries and stupid club decisions hadn’t happened would’ve been insane to watch his full potential combination of scholes and Iniesta
Is jack doing an apprenticeship on radio???? 😂😂😂😂😂
a one-time arsenal favourite getting ribbed by goldstein was a new low for me
He spoke well. And he made sense. No insult needed
these insights are heard once a decade surely.
That dribbling talent that Messi has is all natural. Barca helped him understand the game structure and gave him the perfect environment for that talent to develop
Jack, one of my all time fav gunner
Jack Wilshire, himself, was outstanding in that game. And he was only 19 years old.
Yeah, if not for his polystyrene ankles he'd be an Arsenal legend by now. He had to change from a technically brilliant combative box to box midfielder to a delicate number 10, tragic really. Still love the guy thoigh
"I was thinking,...."
Sorry jack you lost me there,!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
*finking
Jack is a cool guy💯
Great to hear you guys tonight.
They say, when you visualize things perfectly and clamly those start to become intuition. And will be implemented slowly in your movements, messi might have gifted talent, but not everyone can use it perfectly, he had a blur vision of arena back then when his intuition become his skills he is now one of the best playmakers of all time
💯💯💯💯
Messi top 3 passers of all time, for me no.1 (all the assists) , top 3 goals scorers of all time, for me no.1 (goals per game ratio), top dribbler of all time (like velcro on his shoes). Tell me another player that complete. The GOAT, these attributes set him apart from cr7 etc.
Being Barca and Arsenal fan, for years my favourite players were Messi and Wilshere!
Im 5'9 "no youre not" "Im 5'9" "Youre 5'7" Im a avarage mens high" " Youre an avarage mens high?" "Yes" No youre not "
LMAO hahhahahaha
the left guy was scared for his life suddenly at the end 🤣🤣🤣😅
Lucky dude to actually play on the same pitch
And play the game of your life and get man of the match
No way is he 5’9” 🤣
/5.6
5’8 not that far off
Jack that game was absolutely immense. Imagine if he could’ve repeated that every game? 🤯
that strength these talk about is balance ,riding the tackle etc.
, yes , we can train you to do the skills,, but never when too.
most men , can not comprehend another man thinking faster than them.
speed of thought, we know what you will do before you even get the ball, etc.
Darren Bent "Yeah he'll ride the tackle."
Like he ever fucking played against Messi lmao.
Messi is a more prolific goalscorer than Ronaldo. Can we just be clear about that please.
Scores more, assists more. Stop the debate.
Nobody comes close.
Bent at the end 😂
Is that Wilshere in a Man U shirt? Breaks my heart
If you have the chance and still have not watched Messi play footall live. Do it!
Wilshere might be getting radio gigs for the rest of his life to talk about that game against Barca
Tbh I'm a gooner & I thought Xavi/Iniesta dominated the game as usual. Wilshere held his own which is amazing at 19 vs such opposition, but he far from dominated. No one ever dominated them (in their prime or anywhere near) & I don't think anybody could.
You need to watch that match again. He made them look average
I thought Jack at 18/19 outplayed messi in THAT match. Ran the midfield that game on his own.
Messi wasn’t playing in midfield though
Arsenal had a great last 20/25 minutes of that game, Barca ran the game before that.
We actually got battered at the Emirates tbh..
@@howsitgoingpeople9436 Messi scored that incredible lift over keeper iirc
@@howsitgoingpeople9436 And still won though!
And Messi has played over 100 less games than ronaldo, Messi has a far better goal by game ratio, and far more assists
He played in a single league. One that Ronaldo scored almost 500 in 9yrs
@@danielamankona5303 So? La liga was the best league in the world for a large chunk of the 2010s, and even when it isn’t it’s still second best.
@@Gino565 you dont get it. french league has now overtaken laliga due to uefa ratings but la liga is still more competitive. just as mourinho. if you are able to beat barcelona and athletico madrid. you win the league. ronaldo had like 450+ goals at madrid compared to 100+ in epl. epl was more competitve when messi started his career and in the spanish league from 2004 it was all barcelona till mourinho came in 2010. and with them being the prime teams madrid and barcelona ir made it easier for them to score more goals. Bayern could be the best team or worst in europe but will still manage to be far better than the rest in the league. that doesnt make the league competitve than others if the become the best in europe.
@@danielamankona5303 But la liga was overall a better league than the premier league for most of the 2010s. Ronaldo didn’t score as many goals in the premier league because 1. He took a while to actually start scoring goals consistently because early in his career he wasn’t world class. And 2. He was there for a shorter period of time. For majority of the 2010s, the average Spanish team would beat the average premiership team.
@@Gino565 how many goals did he even score in his prime and from 2004 to 2010 spanish teams hardly beat epl teams. it was tougher than the spanish league until most teams needed rebuild. just like barcelona.
Average man's height😂😂😂tats hilarious
3:23 the ignorant chap at the left, who thinks Barcelona influenced Messi, should watch one of the videos of Messi when he was 9 or 10 years old playing in his Argentine team (Newell's Old Boys) before going to Barcelona.
Man really said ronaldo on the ball in front of you is more terrifying than messi 😨 a whole squad would be terrified, messi can slip through a squad by himself where as ronaldo would do a couple of step overs resulting in either pulling back and passing someone else or one or two times actually passing ONE player 🙃 but cristiano's finishing aint a joke, that i respect
At 950 games
Messi
757 goals
328 assists
Penaldo
648.games
211 assists
Ronaldinho did it all before Messi came along, and they call themselves Footballers🤣🤦♂️
Ronaldinho wasn’t as good as Messi though. Messi could literally do everything better than Ronaldinho.
Man knows Messi is clear
The host is a waste imo. Good lad Jack hopefully the future is bright for him
00:47
I'm an average man's height.
- Jack
How the hell dies Wilshire get on the radio. He is such a poor broadcaster
Messi with the ball at his feet? No thanks! 😅 I will not be part of that! I will not be part of that! 😂😅😊 he knows he got rip out and get burn 🔥. I always admire player that speaks the truth even to the expense that they look under to the player they praises. I see it as not weakness but a true man and sportsman!
Mo is 5’9”, so it’s obviously the perfect height.
Jesus fella in the middle a nightmare
3.10 10min ago I was wondering if Messi is a natural or whatever before clicking the v
Jacks literally wearing a united top
It says 5’8” on Wikipedia 😂
Jack wearing a Man Utd top 😂
4:26 is the end of the debate. Real footballers know this. Messi supersedes all.
Did anyone saw what Jack Wilshere is wearing under his jacket? A Man United t-shirt.
Jack is pretty hard work
I know what you mean. I don’t think he’s going to catch on as a pundit.
That's what i had been saying.. messi is not far away drom ronaldo .. just one season away..!!😲😲😲😲
If we play the team from the first leg i think we beat Barcelona at Camp Nou.
We didn’t try to counter attack them enough.
We missed Walcott’s pace & playing Cesc who was unfit was stupid by Wenger.
Nasri RVP Walcott
Wilshere Song Diaby
We probably win the second leg with this line up, Bendther cost us in the end with that shocking miss so we still could’ve gone through, In the end Barca needed a cheap red card to win, we came back to 1-1 and immediately Arsenal get a red card, Uefa was on their side.
Cheap victory from a dirty team, i’m so glad they’re suffering in the Europa.
Lol
You literally had 0 shots in that game and arsenal aren’t even in Europa
Ur 5’2 jack 😂😂😂
yea
nah
crazy man
Xavi and iniesta are different gravy!
He’s wearing a United kit lol
Will never understand why people compare Ronaldo and Messi. Ronaldo is just a goalscorer. Messi is at whole different level to Ronaldo in nearly every aspect of the game.
Messi is the goat. End of🐐
Jack wearing manutd shirt 🤣
Wheelchair ♿️ for wilshere
Messi is Rocky, Ronaldo is Ivan Drago! simple
Ronaldo may have come somewhat close with his goal count..
But in terms of Quality and Skill nobody came close to him in this gebration and very possibly ever !
No your notttt 😂😂😂