Reacting To And Analyzing "The Line" Live At The Game Awards - Twenty One Pilots

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  • @eNv3n0mX
    @eNv3n0mX Місяць тому +229

    Imagine singing so good, that nobody believes its real.

  • @Alskasaur
    @Alskasaur Місяць тому +278

    He’s known for his screams in his music, I’m pretty sure he’s just that good. Dudes a fucking legend.

  • @CoffeePotGames
    @CoffeePotGames Місяць тому +633

    It's like people are so used to talentless artists that when they hear a genuinely talented singer they just assume it's auto tune

    • @moonchiId.
      @moonchiId. Місяць тому +70

      like why we can't just appreciate the performance instead of trying to say its autotune or lip sync lol

    • @CoffeePotGames
      @CoffeePotGames Місяць тому +23

      @moonchiId. Exactly I just can't stand the way people think nowadays

    • @nightspicer
      @nightspicer Місяць тому +2

      tbf, tuning the vocals is absolute industry standard, even when it doesn't really make sense to do

    • @samesta5695
      @samesta5695 Місяць тому +4

      I’ve seen TØP live 10 times now and his voice is just amazing live.

    • @smolmoru
      @smolmoru Місяць тому +13

      exactly, besides ... there are so many concert clips where he sings songs different from the studio version and nails it every single time ... even when he slips after jumping over his piano. feels kinda like an insult to even just assume this is auto tuned, let alone lip sync if I'm honest.
      it's not Tyler's fault most musicians these days lack the creativity, talent and passion to actually be artists and not just in it for the money

  • @Thelittlemermann
    @Thelittlemermann Місяць тому +763

    I don't think it was pre-recorded or tuned, i just think that after over 15 years of making music you just learn to sing incredibly perfect

    • @Midnight_dragonzzz
      @Midnight_dragonzzz Місяць тому +14

      See I think that but at the same time. Why does Josh's drumming not match up with the song. Like they muted Josh I don't know how even, though I know it's live 😭✋️

    • @hiroshixdr
      @hiroshixdr Місяць тому +8

      especially during your literal touring phase

    • @dorothygillstrap7549
      @dorothygillstrap7549 Місяць тому +2

      @@Thelittlemermann it’s almost impossible to kit the line and stay there. That’s why it’s probably auto tuned. I do wonder why they did it to that part only though. Wings of Pegasus goes through songs and shows how they are auto tuned. Watching his channel is an education for sure. Most times it’s not up to the performer when it comes to those decisions on a show. At their own concert.. yes.

    • @moonchiId.
      @moonchiId. Місяць тому +1

      especially slow songs tyler dont do this with these type of music like we just need to search for videos of their own concerts

    • @WhiteComet_CA
      @WhiteComet_CA Місяць тому +14

      @@Midnight_dragonzzzI mean it does match up 💀 idk if you’re watching on a PowerPoint machine but it’s pretty obvious he’s doing it live

  • @TheWizardsOfOz
    @TheWizardsOfOz Місяць тому +295

    The live performance sounds like the studio recorded version but better.

  • @davidrikos7903
    @davidrikos7903 Місяць тому +201

    I can feel the light shine on MY FAEEECEEE!!

  • @raneunhae-idc.
    @raneunhae-idc. Місяць тому +167

    this live was and still one of the best ones i have ever seen in my life.

  • @TheBillNye
    @TheBillNye Місяць тому +106

    “I pretty much like everything about that”
    Well said brother

  • @leticia7364
    @leticia7364 Місяць тому +36

    I've seen videos of Tyler singing in live shows or whatever for years, and his voice is always like that, so didn't even cross my mind think that this wasn't his real voice. He's just a really great singer, and knows how to perform.

  • @lIlzerolIll
    @lIlzerolIll Місяць тому +30

    The auto tune allegations only makes me prouder of Tyler, the improvement he's had on his vocals is insane

  • @Blurryface-ef5br
    @Blurryface-ef5br Місяць тому +33

    twenty one pilots always perform live. You can watch many other videos of them performing. He really does have that voice.

  • @Aguseze39
    @Aguseze39 Місяць тому +23

    NO WAY
    I just finished watching the "singing The Line" video and now you drop this omg

  • @itsKimi
    @itsKimi Місяць тому +21

    "who cares it sounds awesome!" i feel you dude, the internet is so brainrotted nowadays that ppl will get upset over every little things and put any appreciation or enjoyability to the side just to prove something only they care about

  • @oliviasweeney6310
    @oliviasweeney6310 Місяць тому +7

    I’m so glad you guys are such big fans of Twenty One Pilots. I heard your brother reference No Phun Intended in a recent video and thought “oh yeah these guys are BIG fans.”
    I was blown away by Tyler’s live performance of this song and hope it gets officially released with the scream. 🤞🏼 It’s perfect.

  • @carenecitter2435
    @carenecitter2435 Місяць тому +91

    Glad you checked out the live performance! Tyler screams in other songs and has executed them perfectly.
    Can you see if your program shows similar results on other live performances where he screams?

    • @cameronneal4
      @cameronneal4  Місяць тому +46

      That's a fantastic idea! Yeah, when I've seen them live, his screams sound flawless!

    • @carenecitter2435
      @carenecitter2435 Місяць тому +11

      @ I agree! I don’t think it’s faked though. I believe he’s just that good. Still would be cool to see.
      Your idea of taking a song and adding your interpretation of the lyrics before hearing the actual full song, is really cool. If I could ever help myself from wanting to hear their songs the moment it’s released, it would be fun to try. Chances are 0.0001%. 😅

    • @psoma_brufd
      @psoma_brufd Місяць тому +4

      If you're a good singer as well, a sustained scream is actually relatively simple to keep at pitch. Sustaining notes at pitch is one of the fundamentals of signing and when yup can put your entire body into keeping it there, well there you are, you just have to not _over_ do it.

  • @KixMusaid
    @KixMusaid Місяць тому +42

    so you’re telling me that the entire song was sung perfectly and they kicked in the auto tune or the background tape for literally 1 note and 1 second?

  • @fiveyy_ow
    @fiveyy_ow 12 днів тому +1

    its not lip sync, you can hear parts where he was falsetto in track and didnt do falsetto live. hes just incredible live

  • @Nopatella
    @Nopatella Місяць тому +20

    that was some really neat insight at the end of the video i actually learned a lot!

  • @Enchantress-Wisp
    @Enchantress-Wisp Місяць тому

    I've seen them live so many times, Tyler and Josh are so talented man, they always change things up during live performances and its always a solid execution

  • @higorss
    @higorss Місяць тому +14

    That scream was amazing

  • @ManOfSteelePV
    @ManOfSteelePV Місяць тому +62

    I wonder if that straight line could be a symptom of the mic peaking or something like that.

    • @cameronneal4
      @cameronneal4  Місяць тому +36

      Definitely a possibility! I might clip a mic to test that out!

    • @ffrisck
      @ffrisck Місяць тому +3

      @@cameronneal4 truly a possibility, but since I saw it was a straight line it just sounds so robotic 😭

    • @ManOfSteelePV
      @ManOfSteelePV Місяць тому +6

      ​@@cameronneal4that would be awesome, I feel like I should know what a mic clipping looks like in terms of frequency but I actually have no idea

    • @MrCesarSG
      @MrCesarSG Місяць тому

      i though the same, maybe some kind of compression/noise supression so it doesn't pick too much the instruments?

  • @rebeccalambert3240
    @rebeccalambert3240 Місяць тому +1

    Such a cool breakdown and analysis, thank you!

  • @Vashti_Online
    @Vashti_Online Місяць тому

    Never seen you before. But after your true appreciation of this live song I have subscribed. I saw them in Melbourne Australia in November. Best night of my life - no lie or exaggeration❤❤❤❤❤ subscribed. Due to mental health and extreme anxiety, I went with my 71 year old mother who knew nothing about them. It was also a highlight of her life, she had never been to a concert before, but most importantly the show flawed her. The lyrics, the story, the lice true talent was aww dropping. ❤❤❤

  • @benperry4336
    @benperry4336 Місяць тому +1

    I've been waiting for this!!!

  • @mr_suits
    @mr_suits 17 днів тому +3

    Im not an expert in singing or anything like that but i've seen and heard this performance at least 500 time. This whole live performanc w/o autotune/lipsync but at 1:43 (ish) when he gets into teh frame again you can see him changing something on his setup thats trapped on the back of his waist/belt. then once he proceeds to nail the scream, quickly goes back and changes something to his waist again. SO i believe that at this particular moment he used some sort of an assistance. You can also hear the part where he says "light shine" to sound a bit more robotic/electronic.

    • @cameronneal4
      @cameronneal4  17 днів тому +1

      Oh wow, you might be on to something here! I just watched it again and he definitely does reach inside his coat before and after the scream!

    • @mr_suits
      @mr_suits 16 днів тому

      @cameronneal4 thanks :D yeah it seems highly likely he tuned something back there. Keep up the great work

    • @Jules-R
      @Jules-R 7 днів тому

      @@cameronneal4 @mr_suits That's a really interesting theory! But isn't live autotune kit quite big? Like the size of a pedal? Not small enough to attach wireless to a belt surely?

  • @ThePatProMan2
    @ThePatProMan2 26 днів тому +4

    4:18 Well it's a scream after all, so it's way easier to stay on note (atleast for me) since it's basically just a controlled pushing out of air from the diaphragm, and that dude has been a professional singer for like what, 15 years? Highly doubt that scream is tuned.

  • @IndieMadness
    @IndieMadness 3 дні тому

    You can actually hear the moment he dismounts the microphone from the stand. It was just timed quite well in time with the snare.

  • @GaaraLover1792
    @GaaraLover1792 Місяць тому +8

    I don't think a single 'flat' line in the pitch indicates tuning, in fact I'd say the opposite, too many straight lines is a sign of tuning. Nobody would pitch correct a single note in a song and ignore the rest. When songs are pitch corrected, it's always going to be in multiple places. For some reason the people doing the 'correcting' think every note has to be spot on A 440. It's definitely refreshing to see actual live performances though. I watch Wings of Pegasus a lot, and man it's just disappointing how much autotune and pitch correction is just crammed everywhere in modern music, and even in modern releases of older music!

  • @kateluna1636
    @kateluna1636 Місяць тому +6

    no no, he's just THAT good. don't get confused

  • @tarar1998
    @tarar1998 Місяць тому +1

    He is that talented!!!

  • @josephmaloney2251
    @josephmaloney2251 Місяць тому +5

    The only thing that makes me believe the scream is live is that there are no other versions of this song where that scream exists. I guess they could have done it just for this but to knowingly change it seems more sus then just feeling the moment and going for it. I mean he has one of the most incredible voices to begin with so I can't see this as much of a stretch to believe its live

    • @andrew_rose
      @andrew_rose Місяць тому

      it was tried once during rehearsal but outside of that it was never done prior

    • @tnetennba725_3
      @tnetennba725_3 27 днів тому

      ​@@andrew_rose how do you know?

    • @andrew_rose
      @andrew_rose 27 днів тому

      @@tnetennba725_3 i was at rehearsals

  • @andrew_rose
    @andrew_rose Місяць тому +3

    i can understand being suspicious of tuning these days but don't ever assume the real pros are pre-tracked. as someone who worked on this project, Tyler is a legend, and this was not tuned.

  • @Wolfiebbi
    @Wolfiebbi 21 день тому

    I will defend Tyler and Josh with my life.. and that was def not lip syncing I’ve been to their concerts multiple times.. in general Tyler sounds so amazing.. hope no one really hates on him since he wrote that song for his grandma.. so it’s really important to him

  • @Lenny-ue8hk
    @Lenny-ue8hk Місяць тому +6

    Even if it was lipsync Tyler obviously had to sing it like that at some point in order to lipsync to it.

  • @FatRogSlim
    @FatRogSlim Місяць тому +2

    It's music and it's live. It's a show. The delivery is all what matter. When you see people trying to tell you it's "fake", or "lipsinc" or whatever vocoding hulabalu, they are just sad or lonely or jealous (pick on or all)... Be cause we don't fucking care.

  • @GuardianAngels4Life
    @GuardianAngels4Life Місяць тому +1

    If they recorded it professionally, I'm sure they did, they have some way of inspiring all the tracks individually to a DAW and can edit it in post. That means they can mute all the drums at any point even if Josh is still playing them, and they can mute individual pieces of the kit or individual members of the ensemble. All of this is pre fader from the soundboard meaning they can do any of that live on the recording software while not muting any of it in the actual building (if there was a live audience). Not only that, but they could livestream it legit in real time and then after the Livestream has ended reedit any of the audio or video reformat the video in any way they want and then upload that new file which would then take the place of the said Livestream.
    So in short it could have been completely on location recorded and Livestreamed and still have things not match up because of post editing and also tune one or two of his notes they thought needed it. Tech is amazing and they still use it on amazing vocalists like Tyler, doesn't mean it's any less REAL or authentic 👌

  • @Its_Only_Chill
    @Its_Only_Chill Місяць тому +39

    Imagine thinking TØP would lip sync, disrespectful

    • @moonchiId.
      @moonchiId. Місяць тому +4

      ​@@Micineast "i've watched a lot of them" lmao yeah smart ass just this part because he is going to the b-stage and he never tried to pretend when he is using >BACKING VOCALS< that's why he choose if he wants to do his adlibs in routines or if he just sings with the backing vocals or he just let the crowd sing but literally every song since before josh joined the band tyler likes to show his emotions LIVE especially those slow songs

    • @Peeplii
      @Peeplii Місяць тому +5

      ​@Micineast backing vocals is *much* different than lip syncing. We all know they use backing vocals, like most artists do. Especially when they have heavy choreography like Kpop groups or have layered vocals like Tyler does.

    • @jetpbastos
      @jetpbastos Місяць тому

      ​@@Micineast he sings over backing vocals and instruments no shit 💀

    • @mplstechone
      @mplstechone Місяць тому +1

      ​@Micineast ...and I'd say that you are dead wrong 💀

  • @ToabyToastbrot
    @ToabyToastbrot Місяць тому +3

    Could the flat high note just be that the mike/setup is capped at that point? So not changed afterwards with "intent", just run through a high end setup that is made so singing/talking isn't impaired but unwanted wavelengths are filtered out (so you don't get feedbacks or something?)

  • @KA1N3R
    @KA1N3R Місяць тому

    Well well, here I go again recommending the ado-unravel live performance. It's a must react at this point

  • @GanelOnid_21
    @GanelOnid_21 24 дні тому

    Your face at the scream was the exact same as mine lol

  • @lianneweltz2398
    @lianneweltz2398 Місяць тому

    Thank you for listening

  • @chuckmullikin4539
    @chuckmullikin4539 Місяць тому

    they guy in the middle has an awesome hat!

  • @ElectroFalco
    @ElectroFalco Місяць тому +9

    The example of the UA-cam thumbnail you showed was mostly just clickbait. A single person in one of the streamers chats said that and the streamer brought it up and said they disagreed

  • @LucasGGfera
    @LucasGGfera Місяць тому +1

    Diogo defante teu ingles ta mtu bom !!!

  • @matiasrostworowski5141
    @matiasrostworowski5141 Місяць тому +1

    I mean, whether or not its tuned doesn't necessarily have anything to do with whether or not its lip synced. That said, I think that's pretty unlikely. They're good enough to do it live reliably.

  • @jesus607
    @jesus607 Місяць тому +2

    He just can scream and sing that good. People just listen to trashy artists these days that just use auto tune all the time

  • @SJ-le7ok
    @SJ-le7ok Місяць тому +1

    After millions of hour listening to Tyler's amazing voice I 'm 100 p cent sure this is pure live ! No computer needed. He his thas good and very hard working. I-/ 💗

  • @Owll_Oficial
    @Owll_Oficial 15 днів тому

    "Diogo Defante" in the left side lol

  • @twentyonepaulo
    @twentyonepaulo Місяць тому +6

    Krl mano o cara de vermelho é o Diogo Defante estadunidense

    • @danimikelinnyker597
      @danimikelinnyker597 11 днів тому

      Procurei muito por esse comentário, defante americano existe

  • @deadchannelseriouslyitsdea9776
    @deadchannelseriouslyitsdea9776 Місяць тому +7

    My hobby is music production and audio engineering and I’ve never seen the program you used, what is it? I can’t believe I’ve never seen something like this

    • @cameronneal4
      @cameronneal4  Місяць тому +5

      It's Logic Pro! I just recently switched over from GarageBand now that I finally have a computer new enough to run logic! It's incredible!

  • @allencardoso6414
    @allencardoso6414 Місяць тому +2

    You look like a brazilian comedian called Defante

  • @dogukanmericsoy1818
    @dogukanmericsoy1818 Місяць тому

    I think he is just that good.

  • @Tunnel-Time
    @Tunnel-Time Місяць тому

    You're so fkn smart, dude. Like, actually. I would love to kick it in a studio with you.

  • @dorothygillstrap7549
    @dorothygillstrap7549 Місяць тому +1

    Thank you for doing this! I could tell it wasn’t auto tuned because I could hear the difference. It’s interesting that the scream would be though. Does that mean it was recorded and he was lip syncing? Or did they do it while he sang?

  • @bandi-t2859
    @bandi-t2859 14 днів тому

    Hi! Will you do "Spin the wheel" from arcane. It's an interesting song and I'd like to see what can you made about it.

  • @AminAkbari-b3b
    @AminAkbari-b3b Місяць тому

    React to full version with two other singers pleaseeeee❤

  • @anoabortion9071
    @anoabortion9071 Місяць тому

    So people just assume it's autone cuz nowadays artists are talentless and Tyler is just too good for them, 👍🏻. Tyler can sing like this live, he's been doing this for a long time

  • @meghandavis5327
    @meghandavis5327 Місяць тому

    01:57 you and me both my guy

  • @moobalol
    @moobalol Місяць тому

    It's not lipsync, knowing Tyler and Josh they would never do that.

  • @xoopen
    @xoopen Місяць тому

    Defante tá bonito depois da cirurgia

  • @ramsvelez1232
    @ramsvelez1232 Місяць тому

    canta tan bien que creen que es pre grabado

  • @Draxi_1
    @Draxi_1 Місяць тому +2

    I'm not sure if analyzing it after using stem splitter will be much accurate.

  • @Drewby75
    @Drewby75 21 день тому

    I really don’t think it’s tuned because it’s talking about his grandma passing and I don’t think Tyler would fake or tune a very impactful song like that

  • @Elettelen
    @Elettelen Місяць тому

    @cameronneal4 Hi, I saw your videos about Arcane songs and I was wondering what you could do with one of my favorite bands' songs. The song is Nightwish - Ghost Love Score (Live at Wacken 2013). Greetings from Hungary.

  • @whaaacka4162
    @whaaacka4162 26 днів тому

    Music is in his blood and i dont blame yah for not believing in that 1 sec.

  • @vincemeat774
    @vincemeat774 Місяць тому

    I am not convinced its autotuned just yet, reason is there are a few bands that release songs that aren't as perfectly polished so when they do it live it sounds perfect. Chester Bennington was great at this because he was so amazing they didn't have to autotune him so the moment he did live shows it felt like he was a God amongst other singers. and to me he was but we see this effect work against other artists when they release a autotuned version as their song version and its good but when they are live they are awful and it actually feels like they are robbing us by being so bad live.
    My advice to any band or artist is to not autotune so much or find a stronger singer so that when you go live one day its not embarrassing. at the end of the day there are a million singers in the world and just because you sound good doesn't make you great, its an actual talent. and it can be learnt , Adam lambert is proof of that.

  • @pzimmy5517
    @pzimmy5517 10 днів тому

    Mic peak producing the straight line maybe?

  • @jaykiser4103
    @jaykiser4103 23 дні тому

    Tyler was locked in. I want to hear the scenario of this being lip synched. How so?

  • @miguelangelalorda2233
    @miguelangelalorda2233 Місяць тому +1

    Tøp don’t cheat

  • @Tsunaze59
    @Tsunaze59 Місяць тому +2

    Doesn't it look like it's just compressed too much?

  • @Jules-R
    @Jules-R Місяць тому +7

    I saw a vocal coach analysis which said his software showed the whole thing was heavily autotuned and I just don't hear it. This is a recording made from the audience, maybe there are differences suggesting post production pitch correction rather than live autotune? ua-cam.com/video/6tCuvsrC4t0/v-deo.html For sure some productions seem to have the right to pitch correct live vocals post production, before they release a recording, for example the 'Live from the Royal Albert Hall' performances seem to do that.

    • @cameronneal4
      @cameronneal4  Місяць тому +4

      That's really interesting! I definitely don't see or hear anything that would suggest the whole thing was pitch corrected. Could you leave a link to that video so I can see how he came to that conclusion?
      And thanks for linking the audience video! Tyler sounds so good!

    • @Jules-R
      @Jules-R Місяць тому +2

      @@cameronneal4 He didn't show the software analysis unfortuntely, I believe he only has that on patreon. Nothing against him btw, his video was really interesting. Tyler's my boy, if he uses some auto tune to support the tricky bits in a live performance, I really dont care! I'm just fascinated by the technical side of things 🤓ua-cam.com/video/2uakCarKFzY/v-deo.html

    • @mplstechone
      @mplstechone Місяць тому +4

      ​@@Jules-RYeah it was a, "I'm not going to get into why I think that here on UA-cam, only if you pay me through Patreon..." The lengths people will go to to separate others' from their money knows no bounds.

  • @simplynegan
    @simplynegan 24 дні тому

    thinking THE twenty one pilots .. THE tyler joseph lip syncs is just scandalous

  • @stingrayvortex1819
    @stingrayvortex1819 Місяць тому

    What software did you use to split the song???

    • @cameronneal4
      @cameronneal4  Місяць тому +2

      Logic Pro! It's got a built in stem splitter on my version! Brett (the guy in the middle) tried it on his computer and it doesn't have the option though, so I'm not sure what to think of that!

  • @imamleza
    @imamleza Місяць тому

    what's peter parker doing here? 😂

  • @ricardoortiz3174
    @ricardoortiz3174 Місяць тому

    Maybe pre-recorded

  • @ideasmatter4737
    @ideasmatter4737 Місяць тому +6

    I’m one of the few who doesn’t prefer the scream version. I like the more fragile voice throughout the studio version. But I do love the live orchestra. But I miss the beat drop after the introduction. Is it possible I’ve listened to both too many times?
    Thanks for doing this analysis. Tyler has had trouble keeping screams on pitch before, so I guess Blurryface won the battle on pitch correction this time.

    • @cameronneal4
      @cameronneal4  Місяць тому +6

      Yeah, I think both the scream and the gentle vocals really fit for this song!
      One more option I didn't mention in the video is that whoever was in charge of the Game Awards might have decided to pitch correct a note without asking! I think that probably happens sometimes.

    • @revendax2584
      @revendax2584 Місяць тому

      @@cameronneal4The person who made the arrangement was from Riot games, it would make sense that they would work closely with the artists involved over any changes and it could be either party. Maybe he wanted to do the scream so Riot said sure, or other way around? Who knows, but they did phenomenal.

    • @kateluna1636
      @kateluna1636 Місяць тому +1

      @@cameronneal4 or... he's just that good and you're projecting some insecurities maybe?

    • @cameronneal4
      @cameronneal4  Місяць тому

      @kateluna1636 That’s a definite possibility!

  • @MenacingThreat
    @MenacingThreat Місяць тому

    The scream completes the song. The studio version is so inferior.

  • @FourthLast
    @FourthLast Місяць тому

    using software like they do to try and disprove/prove lip-syncing is brainless lol.

    • @cameronneal4
      @cameronneal4  Місяць тому +1

      Haha! You might have not seen the part, but I did say that I can't prove or disprove lip syncing, but I can provide some insight on if the vocals are edited or not! I agree, it would not have been smart to claim I know if it was lip synced based on the stems!

  • @snoweverland4888
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    im guessing no one watched it live here but it was live and is currently considered one of the best verisons of it hes done and all of it was live in succession to the show if you didnt wathc the entire aorund 3horus game show the wait inbetween everything was all took a bit to set everything up