They did a great job of capturing the philosophical differences between Punisher and Daredevil. It actually brought a tear to my eye, seeing their intense debate.
interesting to note that during the *Daredevil* v *Punisher* crimefighting methodology discussion, Frank referred to DD's activities in Hell's Kitchen as a *"half-measure"* which were the exact words his *former mentor / surrogate father-figure* Stick used to describe Matt's crusade in S1
Unfortunately , Superman and Batman both follow a similar code , hence we cannot do that like they did with Daredevil and Punisher , it either should be Batman-Deathstroke or Superman-Lobo.
@@WackRusDud So what , Batman has killed in the comics , this isn't anything new. Superman too kills when its ultimately necessary , which is why he is the Grand daddy of all Superheroes.
@@WackRusDud Well , because this is an older Batman , remember " 20 years in gotham , how many good guys are left , how many stayed that way " This is a Batman who is done with his old crime fighting style because he sees nothing has he done has benefited Gotham , the only thing he has felt in this 20 years is loss and only loss , he lost a Robin , his death haunts him which is why he has kept Robin's suit as a display in the bat cave to remind him that he failed him , he wasn't gonna feel that again , which is why he no longer shows mercy to the scum , he kills when its necessary , but most times he has only tortured them really violent.
Frank's bullet wound is very important. Damage to the prefrontal cortex can cause individuals to lose their capacity for impulse control; it's the part of our brain we use to moderate our own actions. Combine a PFC injury with a devastating tragedy, and you have a recipe for a serial killer. It makes Frank Castle more sympathetic - he's damaged, not evil.
Ironically, Matt's philosophy is based on free will (i.e. people have the ability to try and do better), and Frank's free will has been compromised by a traumatic brain injury.
@@judemiller Frank's philosophy is based on a darker long run, and I agree with Frank. I believe that people with good hearts are something the world needs, but they underestimate how evil people can be. Frank knows of how evil those gangsters are and he puts them away for good.
PUNISHER Don't fight good guys, that's why they talked on the rooftop. You can see in the civil war comics that he didn't fight Captain America when Cap was beating the life outta him. Cap asks why he didn't fight back, Punisher just answered "coz you don't deserve it, cap". So knowing his character's principles, it is realistic that they debated on the rooftop
“They should be given another chance, Frank!” “What, to kill again, to rape again, to...” “No, Frank! To TRY again, Frank!” I legit tear up every tingle time
@@StupidWeb I saw an interesting comment by a criminal psychologist who interviewed murderers. He said "90% of the murderers I have interviewed, I am confident that if you let them walk out of prison today, they would never kill again. They tend to be crimes of passion, or crimes of desperation."
@@silversalmon9909 oh god yea, UA-camr Larry Lawton has talked about how the US has a 70 percent recidivism rate, which is largely because the prison system doesn't focus on rehabilitation, but instead punishment
I like that this show presents justice on a spectrum. Daredevil, The Punisher, and Fiske/Kingpin all want to "clean up this city", and we as the audience can discuss why one is better than the other. Daredevil kicks ass as needed, but still has to deal with the same guys ending back up on the street. The Punisher punishes without acknowledging who may be capable of redemption. Fiske initially tore down the criminal syndicate from the inside, but still aimed to rebuild it so he could control it. I look forward to future seasons.
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I loved this episode! Both Charlie and Jon did a great job defending the point view of their characters! The fight and the scene in the hospital with Foggy were great too! Amazing episode!
HRCesar Gamer yeah i know its a great show but 8 episodes means 8 weeks like 2 months and in 2 months they have to do another so there isnt again time for attack on titan or vikings :(
I really love this episode. Ever single one of the main characters had a great moment. Foggy is really shining so far this season, first the DA and now this hospital scene. This episode is so good - thanks for a great reaction. Since you mentioned Frank and Matt's different philosophies there is a video I would love to see you react to after you finish Daredevil S2: Wisecrack's The Philosophy of Marvel's Daredevil. It does have spoilers for both seasons so don't watch it right away
They both make good points, but Daredevil does something Frank doesn't seem to, he tries to improve the community so that there will be less crime. They both serve a purpose but in the long run Matt will accomplish more. For every guy Frank kills a new guy will step in. Matt is pretty self righteous about not killing when a lot of the people he attacks definitely have life altering injuries. There is no hard right or wrong here.
The Punisher is driven by the death of his family. The same as batman but worse because he was a soldier and a grown man. No one can know what they would do living with that regret and tragedy.
Bruhh y’all know what this scene reminds me off...Batman, Joker and the Red Hood. “One bad day from being me...” “You hit me and they get back up, I hit em and they stay down” “No to try again” Ain’t that perfect 🥰
remember season 1 when they were trying to help that old lady in the apartment and she was killed by kingpins robbers, i think that was the same old lady they were talking about because the shock on Matts face says it all.
Travis Taylor no, it wasn't... DD actually confronted the guy who pulled the trigger... Besides, Fisk was behind that... Irish mob is a whole different animal. In fact, Fisk and the Irish were rivals... Elliot Grote aka Grotto worked for the Irish mob... The look on Matt's face was sheer shock... He knew Grotto was bad, he just didn't know his crimes included shooting an old lady. Plus, it probably reminded him of Mrs. Cardenas.
This was my favorite episode of both seasons. The awesome clashing ideologies of Daredevil and Punisher, the stairwell fight that I enjoyed even more than the hallway fight, a tiny glimpse into Punisher's past thanks to Karen, and Foggy being a clever, well-spoken son of a gun. So excited for more Blind Wave reactions! (as well as Zoom vs Reverse-Flash)
As we learned from Mike... no half measures... Punisher origin story in episode 4... Joker says the same thing to Gordon in the Killing Joke... one bad day...
This was probably my favorite episode of season 2. Glad you guys really enjoyed it as well. Quick question: when is the Kylo Ren film being released? No pressure, I'm just really looking forward to it.
Great reactions! I loved Foggy's speaking up. You should do Stranger Things. It's only 8 episodes long! Also, what happened to Supernatural? You said something about doing it each weekend and there hasn't been one in three weeks.
Daredevil is hands down my favorite Marvel Show... But Punisher is not aging well. Not after all the shootings at schools, malls, or randomly anywhere taking lives. It doesn't matter if his shooting is neatand no ine ever was in danger inside the hospital, he shoot inside a hospital cause was right and needed, nothing is different from him and those random shooters. Club Blindwave you owe a reaction to "We Need To Talk About Kevin" with Ezra Miller, Tilda Swinton and John C Reilly
12 slugs eew. Apply some salt, they'll fall right off. I like that Punisher calls him Red because that's what Roman calls Ruby. Just picture Frank Castle with a sniper scythe and a red hood.
"You hit em and they get back up, I hit the em and they stay down". Gives me chills every time.
They had some good lines in this episode. I loved it.
***** Pa Fuera!
***** So silly.
The entire talk between Frank and Matt was awesome as hell! Especially knowing both characters you agree with both.
i was re watching the arrow season 5 first episode where he got kidnapped and when he shot those dudes it reminded me of this
They did a great job of capturing the philosophical differences between Punisher and Daredevil. It actually brought a tear to my eye, seeing their intense debate.
interesting to note that during the *Daredevil* v *Punisher* crimefighting methodology discussion, Frank referred to DD's activities in Hell's Kitchen as a *"half-measure"* which were the exact words his *former mentor / surrogate father-figure* Stick used to describe Matt's crusade in S1
Their lines about trying again made me tear up again
"You're goddamn right i did" love it every time
what they did with daredevil and punisher is what batman v superman should have been.
True
Unfortunately , Superman and Batman both follow a similar code , hence we cannot do that like they did with Daredevil and Punisher , it either should be Batman-Deathstroke or Superman-Lobo.
@@mrHunleashesHELL forgot that Batman killed people in *B v S* ?
@@WackRusDud So what , Batman has killed in the comics , this isn't anything new. Superman too kills when its ultimately necessary , which is why he is the Grand daddy of all Superheroes.
@@WackRusDud Well , because this is an older Batman , remember " 20 years in gotham , how many good guys are left , how many stayed that way " This is a Batman who is done with his old crime fighting style because he sees nothing has he done has benefited Gotham , the only thing he has felt in this 20 years is loss and only loss , he lost a Robin , his death haunts him which is why he has kept Robin's suit as a display in the bat cave to remind him that he failed him , he wasn't gonna feel that again , which is why he no longer shows mercy to the scum , he kills when its necessary , but most times he has only tortured them really violent.
Frank's bullet wound is very important. Damage to the prefrontal cortex can cause individuals to lose their capacity for impulse control; it's the part of our brain we use to moderate our own actions. Combine a PFC injury with a devastating tragedy, and you have a recipe for a serial killer. It makes Frank Castle more sympathetic - he's damaged, not evil.
Ironically, Matt's philosophy is based on free will (i.e. people have the ability to try and do better), and Frank's free will has been compromised by a traumatic brain injury.
"I AIN'T CRAZY"
@@judemiller Frank's philosophy is based on a darker long run, and I agree with Frank. I believe that people with good hearts are something the world needs, but they underestimate how evil people can be. Frank knows of how evil those gangsters are and he puts them away for good.
He's a crazy killer, nothing more lol.
@@nine-vi7rw do you compare a person who kill/rape/kidnapp a innocent people with a person who kill a monster?
PUNISHER Don't fight good guys, that's why they talked on the rooftop. You can see in the civil war comics that he didn't fight Captain America when Cap was beating the life outta him. Cap asks why he didn't fight back, Punisher just answered "coz you don't deserve it, cap". So knowing his character's principles, it is realistic that they debated on the rooftop
Mat & Frank going back and forth was amazing
Frank left the gun on the old man to threaten Matt, not to kill the man.
Guys, the Dogs of Hell are actually kinda like an easter egg, because they were in Agents of Shield before being here on Daredevil.
They know.
yeah, iirc, they noted it in ep 1
the end of this episode had the best fight scene in superhero history
on the stairs and shit
“They should be given another chance, Frank!”
“What, to kill again, to rape again, to...”
“No, Frank! To TRY again, Frank!”
I legit tear up every tingle time
Actually I agree with frank if it’s a rapist or a murderer. NO MATT, someone who’s MURDERED OR RAPED somebody does NOT DESERVE THE CHANCE TO TRY😂
@@samuelbrown4764 I think 99% of the time they should be put in prison for life
@@StupidWeb I saw an interesting comment by a criminal psychologist who interviewed murderers. He said "90% of the murderers I have interviewed, I am confident that if you let them walk out of prison today, they would never kill again. They tend to be crimes of passion, or crimes of desperation."
@@silversalmon9909 oh god yea, UA-camr Larry Lawton has talked about how the US has a 70 percent recidivism rate, which is largely because the prison system doesn't focus on rehabilitation, but instead punishment
Try again what ???
What about the fucking victims where's there chance ???
The rooftop scene is iconic Punisher for me. I have no clue how many times I've watched clips of it.
9:47 I like how Calvin and Aaron both ducked lol
It was at the exact same time too
Like they were synced
Punisher = Old Testament
Daredevil = New Testament
This was easily my favorite episode of the series thus far and not even just because of that kick-ass fight scene.
I like that this show presents justice on a spectrum. Daredevil, The Punisher, and Fiske/Kingpin all want to "clean up this city", and we as the audience can discuss why one is better than the other. Daredevil kicks ass as needed, but still has to deal with the same guys ending back up on the street. The Punisher punishes without acknowledging who may be capable of redemption. Fiske initially tore down the criminal syndicate from the inside, but still aimed to rebuild it so he could control it. I look forward to future seasons.
I loved this episode! Both Charlie and Jon did a great job defending the point view of their characters! The fight and the scene in the hospital with Foggy were great too! Amazing episode!
This was the best episode in my opinion. So much action and the rooftop talk was just plain awesome :)
actually the stairs scene has no cuts at all, best scene in the whole series
I counted at least 5 cuts
They are hidden well, but there are cuts in there.
didn't think you would Dare to read comments for this show...
There's a cut on the stairs when Daredevil wraps the chain around the biker's neck and pulls him down over the railing
prove? Only because it gets dark doesn't have to mean there are cuts ;O
Aww you cut out the part where he pulled the trigger and laughed!
I love that part
I fucking love you guys! Favorite channel.
3:31 Charlie Cox's accent shining through a little bit.
I like three friends fight for snacks .That’s reminiscing
i enjoyed ur discussion choosing sides between DD and Punisher
I really enjoyed it too. :D
Sometime soon, you guys should do Stranger Things. It's on Netflix and it's only 8 episodes. Most binge-watchable show I've ever seen.
I second that. That show came out of nowhere for me. I saw the whole thing in 2 days. Beautifully done show and not based on a comic thank goodness.
It has a very good feeling, also the episodes don't really feel like Episodes, more like movies to me :P
first vikings or attack on titan,we have been asking for a year now and they should make AOT OR VIKINGS before they start STH
+The wolf but Stranger Things have only 8 episodes.
HRCesar Gamer yeah i know its a great show but 8 episodes means 8 weeks like 2 months and in 2 months they have to do another so there isnt again time for attack on titan or vikings :(
If this is your favorite episode just wait until you see the next. OMG SO GOOD.
I really love this episode. Ever single one of the main characters had a great moment. Foggy is really shining so far this season, first the DA and now this hospital scene. This episode is so good - thanks for a great reaction.
Since you mentioned Frank and Matt's different philosophies there is a video I would love to see you react to after you finish Daredevil S2: Wisecrack's The Philosophy of Marvel's Daredevil. It does have spoilers for both seasons so don't watch it right away
They both make good points, but Daredevil does something Frank doesn't seem to, he tries to improve the community so that there will be less crime. They both serve a purpose but in the long run Matt will accomplish more. For every guy Frank kills a new guy will step in. Matt is pretty self righteous about not killing when a lot of the people he attacks definitely have life altering injuries. There is no hard right or wrong here.
This is my absolute favorite episode of TV ever.
I really want to see Erins reaction to Franks speech next episode, knowing that he is the only one of them who has children
Does he spell his name like that? I always thought it was the traditional "Aaron"
You mean Aaron's? Also, this is kind of a spoiler.
You right, is Aaron, my bad
SPOILER. FFS
Foggy in this episode was badass.
2:21 Stick said the same thing to him, interesting
The first 4 episodes of Season 2 are by far some of the best episodes ever put on the small screen.
I can't wait until you see episode 4 :D
The Punisher is driven by the death of his family. The same as batman but worse because he was a soldier and a grown man. No one can know what they would do living with that regret and tragedy.
How did you get that badass punisher t-shirt
NEVER CLICKED ON A VIDEO SO FAST IN MY LIFE
2am in brazil
Same here heheheh
Haha, ja estava indo dormir e vejo o video, tive que ficar =D
1 AM in Canada! Blind Wave will be the death of us!
nem sabia que tinha br por aqui hu3
heuheuehe vários Br
Finally! Been waiting all week for this one....now another horrible wait begins for episode 4. =/
Bruhh y’all know what this scene reminds me off...Batman, Joker and the Red Hood.
“One bad day from being me...”
“You hit me and they get back up, I hit em and they stay down”
“No to try again”
Ain’t that perfect 🥰
I needed this. Looks like I got my daily dose of BlindWave after all. :D
Ughhhhh I don't think I can wait another week :((((
i have waited DAYS for this !!!
The confrontation between Daredevil and Punisher was nothing compared to the battle for Skittles!
Punisher's sense of black and white justice is so deluded, it makes my head hurt.
Makes more sense than daredevils naive view on humanity.
remember season 1 when they were trying to help that old lady in the apartment and she was killed by kingpins robbers, i think that was the same old lady they were talking about because the shock on Matts face says it all.
Travis Taylor no, it wasn't... DD actually confronted the guy who pulled the trigger... Besides, Fisk was behind that... Irish mob is a whole different animal. In fact, Fisk and the Irish were rivals... Elliot Grote aka Grotto worked for the Irish mob...
The look on Matt's face was sheer shock... He knew Grotto was bad, he just didn't know his crimes included shooting an old lady. Plus, it probably reminded him of Mrs. Cardenas.
This was my favorite episode of both seasons. The awesome clashing ideologies of Daredevil and Punisher, the stairwell fight that I enjoyed even more than the hallway fight, a tiny glimpse into Punisher's past thanks to Karen, and Foggy being a clever, well-spoken son of a gun. So excited for more Blind Wave reactions! (as well as Zoom vs Reverse-Flash)
As we learned from Mike... no half measures...
Punisher origin story in episode 4...
Joker says the same thing to Gordon in the Killing Joke... one bad day...
My 3rd favourite episode of Daredevil tbh
"he killed an old lady...fuck that guy" LMAO
God, next episode will blow you away.
Great reaction guys! By the way, where did you get that Punisher shirt?! It's awesome.
You should react to Stranger Things, the new original Netflix series
yaaas
????
OH YES!
Great reaction ! Love Daredevil and your channel ! Hope you'll continue to react to Supergirl Season 1 !
“One Batch, Two Batch, Penny and Dime” by The Punisher
I NEED THAT DAREDEVIL MUG
Like what could Matt say to Pete after he heard that story
Love the work
STRANGER THINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!BEST SHOW EVER
Naa
I would love to see you guys react to Stranger Things on Netflix....SO GOOD
Maybe this is too much to ask but if ever you guys have a free spot in your schedule you should really continue True Detective. Stay amazing!
This was probably my favorite episode of season 2. Glad you guys really enjoyed it as well.
Quick question: when is the Kylo Ren film being released? No pressure, I'm just really looking forward to it.
Soon. Eric is working on the special effects at the moment.
+Katie Stubbs Alright then. Thanks for catching me up to speed.
i was re watching the arrow season 5 first episode where he got kidnapped and when he shot those dudes it reminded me of this
Are you guys going to react to BvS' honest trailer?
daredevil's like honeybadger!
Its a year later and I still want Eric's shirt.
Calvin bringing up the honey badger. Lol.
That's only a bag of skittles you would get in America
ITS SO BIG
Frank has seen it all. I'm on his side
Great reactions! I loved Foggy's speaking up.
You should do Stranger Things. It's only 8 episodes long! Also, what happened to Supernatural? You said something about doing it each weekend and there hasn't been one in three weeks.
1:12 Aron what happend you never do that lol
I love this episode of DAREDEVIL.
they will show his origin in the series pretty soon
You guys should react to "Vikings" you would absolutely love it.
React to "honest trailers batman v superman", to "how xmen apocalypse should have ended" and to "game of thrones (suicide squad style)"!
Didn't Matt take the wrench off that last guy?
Daredevil is hands down my favorite Marvel Show... But Punisher is not aging well. Not after all the shootings at schools, malls, or randomly anywhere taking lives. It doesn't matter if his shooting is neatand no ine ever was in danger inside the hospital, he shoot inside a hospital cause was right and needed, nothing is different from him and those random shooters. Club Blindwave you owe a reaction to "We Need To Talk About Kevin" with Ezra Miller, Tilda Swinton and John C Reilly
That Skittles slap fight doh.
Will you guys continue Supernatural? Really have been missing it!
12 slugs eew. Apply some salt, they'll fall right off. I like that Punisher calls him Red because that's what Roman calls Ruby. Just picture Frank Castle with a sniper scythe and a red hood.
Do you think the old lady that gangster killed was Elena Cardenas from last season?
Jude Miller na it wasnt. he confronted the guy who killed her in season one. it was that drug addict dude remember
cant wait until you see the hallway fight
They are like man-children fighting over those skittles 😂
please do Stranger Things sometime soon.. one of the best shows ever
I'm surprised they didn't put together that the old lady was the old Hispanic lady from last season.
It wasn't.
You guys should check out Mr Robot!
Was about to leave a comment to ask for a react to Stranger Things but then several people already beat me to it so now I'm just adding to the pile :P
Great video
Are they gonna do riff anymore?
I guess paralysis and TBI are acceptable? Atleast then they can still try to do good later on. Frank!!!
Such a good episode. Ugh.
that skittle break tho
Episode 4 on Patreon? ;)
Can Y'all guys React to DEATH BATTLE Ratchet & Clank VS Jak & Daxter? PLEASE?
anyone know when supernatural will be up again or if they're still reaction to it.
We need punisher and daredevil to fight if they come back
Next year 2024 DD : born again
Guys please stranger things reaction, I know u guys will like it. Also it has reached number 1 on Imbd which I mean just shows how popular it is now
Dear Blind wave I always love watching it videos I love your reaction and also can you react to rackaracka Mcdonalds
Eric where did u get that t shirt from??
Where can I buy Eric's punisher shirt??
O.O o my god I want that shirt punisher :D
Dammit!!! I was going to bed.