GEN TITO’S UGANDA: HOW A STATE FAILS
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On 27 July 1985, Uganda’s national army (UNLA) overthrew President Milton Obote and installed a Military Council, under the chairmanship of his own former Chief of Defence Forces, Gen. Tito Okello, as the new government.
Strangely, Gen. Okello’s deputy was not a UNLA officer but a retired former Commander of Uganda Air Force under President Idi Amin. Col. Gad Wilson Toko was Managing Director of Uganda Airlines when Obote’s fall suddenly turned him into Uganda’s Number 2.
Brig. Bazilio Olara Okello, who spearheaded the coup against Obote succeeded Gen. Tito as CDF and was promoted two grades to lieutenant General.
These three and a few other top UNLA officers invited all guerilla groups to join the Military Council saying that Obote whom they had been fighting had been removed. Except Yoweri Museveni’s NRM/NRA, all groups joined the MC and peace talks with NRM began in Nairobi.
Unfortunately, the MC government was a “union of irreconcilables” and the closest thing to a failed state. There were frequent rumours of attempted coups and defections and arrests and infiltrations, which would send jittery Ugandans fleeing the city to the villages.
It became too much that in September 1985 the Military Council arranged a press conference at the state-owned Uganda Television (UTV) to dispel the rumours. You are about to see it.
After this first part of the story of Uganda after the July coup but before Museveni’s arrival, you may wonder whether a brutal Obote regime was not better than Tito’s deadly conglomeration of irreconcilable armed groups.
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On 27 July 1985, Uganda’s national army (UNLA) overthrew President Milton Obote and installed a Military Council, under the chairmanship of his own former Chief of Defence Forces, Gen. Tito Okello, as the new government.
Strangely, Gen. Okello’s deputy was not a UNLA officer but a retired former Commander of Uganda Air Force under President Idi Amin. Col. Gad Wilson Toko was Managing Director of Uganda Airlines when Obote’s fall suddenly turned him into Uganda’s Number 2.
Brig. Bazilio Olara Okello, who spearheaded the coup against Obote succeeded Gen. Tito as CDF and was promoted two grades to lieutenant General.
These three and a few other top UNLA officers invited all guerilla groups to join the Military Council saying that Obote whom they had been fighting had been removed. Except Yoweri Museveni’s NRM/NRA, all groups joined the MC and peace talks with NRM began in Nairobi.
Unfortunately, the MC government was a “union of irreconcilables” and the closest thing to a failed state. There were frequent rumours of attempted coups and defections and arrests and infiltrations, which would send jittery Ugandans fleeing the city to the villages.
It became too much that in September 1985 the Military Council arranged a press conference at the state-owned Uganda Television (UTV) to dispel the rumours. You are about to see it.
After this first part of the story of Uganda after the July coup but before Museveni’s arrival, you may wonder whether a brutal Obote regime was not better than Tito’s deadly conglomeration of irreconcilable armed groups.
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Thanks for these old/gold clips Mr.Owana. u real mean so much in my world as an investigative journalist. To us Ugandans, this old clips are golden clips. I can't thank you more enough 🙏🏾
More gold is coming your way dear Prospector!!
Thank you so much Mr. Owana for the History Lesson. Some of us weren't born yet by 1985 but we are grateful for your compilation.
Your most welcome Mr Aizulu, am glad that you find this channel helpful, stay tuned for more historical content. Thanks
Mr Owana! I highly appreciate your video historical record! I have a couple of suggestions though. 1) Title the videos consistently - for example - I cannot find "CHAOS IN GEN. TITO OKELLO'S GOV'T PART 2" which should follow part 1. I think it is titled differently. 2) Make it very obvious as to how we can support you financially by adding a link or contact.
You are doing an invaluable job!!
Fantastic history lesson. As a pan african Nigerian lover of everything Uganda, I have found this video extremely educative and insightful. I shall be following you closely from now on to learn more about the Pearl of Africa. Thank you sir
Grateful.
BUT THESE PEOPLE WERE NOT AS CRUEL AS THEY WERE PORTRAYED. THEY LOOK REASONABLE, INTELLIGENT, AND COMPOSED. I CAN SEE THE BRILLIANCE OF BRIG TOKO FROM ARUA, WORKING WITH FELLOW UGANDANS FROM GULU, AND SO ON. I WAS BRAINWASHED TO BELIEVE THAT THEY WERE CRUEL AND STUPID PEOPLE.
THANK YOU OWANAPAEDIA FOR YOUR WORK. KEEP IT UP!!
Believe me Museveni was spreading propaganda and lies towards these people, he wanted ultimate power and control over Uganda these were well educated military officers our grand fathers were fooled .
@@kelvinkevo3648 why do you only talk about Toko not the CDF Bazilio Okello. Definitely not everyone was a fool but some in key positions were, and many of them btw
@@kelvinkevo3648 And you judge this because you've watched this one interview?
Also why single out only Museveni when even in this very video, there's over 5 different groups being mentioned as having taken to the bush?
Where's you objectivity?
Those who experienced Gen Bazilio first hand will not agree with you. Toko, who had left the army shortly before Amin's downfall, belongs to a different category.
@@OWANAPAEDIA and why dont those who experienced the General first hand come out to disagree. You have crafted a nique in political lies that deal efficiently with a history of our country that is not a secret at all but known to practically everybody present at the time, then you engage them in rewriting history under the guise of only Owanapedia has access to the history as it happened. Your history is a nothing but a pack of lies bent on hatred and spreading a certain ideology that targets a certain group of people.
Great stuff. We need more of these Mr Owana, probably stretching back to the 1966 crisis (if possible)
We will avail all we can here on Owanapaedia, just stay tuned and safe.
Thank you so much for this history, I was just 4 years old when all this was going on so I don't remember much. This is very good history
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great historical info and upload 👍
Am glad you enjoyed it, thanks for tuning in and stay safe. More uploading.....
Honestly, learnt alot. Amazing channel to follow. I will encourage ppl to subscribe
Thank you Mr Owana Bravo for the good work👍
You are most welcome Mukulu Luswata, thanks for tuning in. Hope you already subscribed
Thanks owana for compilation of Uganda History.
Your most welcome Mukulu Kato, thanks for tuning in and Stay safe.
This was timely update. Thanks for update..
We have surely come from far as a country. Thank you Mr Owana for giving us a chance to understand our country 's history. Good job Sir.
1980s Journalists were so good. They were articulate and clear and with brilliant questions but nowadays we just have noise everywhere
Exactly!
Hahahaha you talking here
Noted😂
These were the same people who orchestrated the return of Milton Obote's return in May 1980 and by 1985, they suddenly became angels! Wonders truly never cease on this Earth.
Love your videos... Just one request... could you move the OwanaPaedia logo away from the centre of your videos. Move it to the bottom right hand corner. Appreciate that. Thanks!
Owana thank you for these videos and letting us know our history
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I loved Brig.Gen Toko's explanations he could have made a good soldier even within Mr M7's Army(Govn't)
True
Toko tried hard but the Military Council government was too internally divided to allow any soldier to distinguish himself as good. More evidence is coming here next week.
I love history. And the best place to get it is @OwanaPaedia. But what happened to your radio programes at Impact radio?
Owanapaedia appreciates your love. The impact radio program on, Catch it every Thursday and Friday at 10:pm. Thanks for always tuning in.
I am taking my History class here, many thanks
All the best..Hope you stay active so as to avoid retakes. Thank you for tuning in, Stay safe
This is the best I get frm my data...I just don't know how much to appreciate u bwana owana ...
mr owana ,u got to have a Facebook page ,some people have no data to watch and listen to your program,at least if u got a Facebook ,it would give us opportunity to discuss some issues by writing .thx
You can reach us through our Facebook page in the names 'Owanapaedia.' will be glad to hear from you.
Thank you Mr Owana for this great service you are doing to the country and future Ugandans. For those of us who want to make a small contribution to your worthy cause, what avenue can we use?
Much appreciated. Can you leak to me your email address?
Amazing story,,,thanks for the good work sir
More coming on this period
I like the way you present the history keep it up!
I will comrade
Thanks 0wanapadia, i saw Gen. Bajirio Okello and Toko
Listening to Bazilo Okello, there was no compelling reason for the coup really! I can also tell that Toko was an educated soldier- very brilliant mind too.
The lies told against Obote has all come down crumbling.
Listen to Lt Gen Bazilio again. His command of the English language is problematic but try...
@@OWANAPAEDIA as a supposed historian you have to be impatial and neutral, and tell the history of events as they happened, you are biased and driven by a deep desire to rewrite history based on hatred, tribal sentiments and lies. The truth will alwsys win.
@@samuelolara7748 What are you talking about? The video clearly shows that Okello's grasp of English was tenuous. You are probably coming from the angle that Acholi are portrayed unfairly. There's this unspoken rivalry between Acholi and Langi over the position of Army Chief-of-Staff. The Acholi believed Okello deserved the position, but the Head-of-State overlooked him and instead appointed Opon Acak. The head-state had three options: Opon Acak, Bazilio Okello and Nanyumba. Opon Acak was a known drunkard, Bazilio didn't have the requisite education, as for Nanyumba, I don't know. Anyway, Obote was overthrown to enable an Acholi become Army Chief-Of-Staff. I don't think it ended well, even for the Acholi. Since the overthrow of Obote, we non-Bantu people of Uganda have declined in everything that can be measured. Even average height has decreased!
@@kenbaoding please read my post carefully, people tend to jump to language barriers or resort to being tribalistic in their response, it trivilises the whole issue being debated. Also the mutiny in the UNLA was not about ranks, that is the history you have been told and you have swallowed that bait, it is far from that. You need to examine our history right from 1962 to 1985 when the army mutined. Otherwise you will comtinue to be led by Owanapedia in his skewed narratives of our history.
@@samuelolara7748 There's was tribal under currents that motivated the overthrow of Obote. That cannot be denied. The outcome of that Okello-led coup has been terrible especially for the Nilotic peoples of East Africa. We shall forever regret it. For it was only in Uganda that Nilotic people had some influence on affairs of the state. The Nilotic people are now a marginalised group in every country in the region.
Thanks alot Mr. Owanapaedia, but just asking, how comes the UTV of those days sounds clear and airs quality videos compared to one of today? yet those days HDs, 4Ks were not yet developed.😂😂😂
Mr. Owana most likely enhanced the quality of these videos to bring them up to scratch. Much respect to the man for his touch of quality and finesse
Sure? Let me examine closely.
That is Habert Semyano
Listening to the military council members they were pro negotiations and peaceful settlement of the conflict
They appear intelligent and spoke well. They didn't appear to be obsessed with fighting.
Though M7 came and took over and he is credited for Uganda's stability these transitional leaders need also to be credited for allowing stability to reign
Their attitude allowed peace and stability to return.
Hi Mr Owana am Omony Ivan and matter fact I listen and follow you every time possible I listen to you on UA-cam and Impact FM thanks for your wisdom you share just wanted to know how you can help me continue having my studies my family has been serving this country for so long since my grandfather was the one of the top commanders In President Tito Okelllo but we poorly living in our country my dad is an OC but he ain't helping us please could u help us in anyway
Toko was a bright man. Should have been a wonderful president for Uganda.
Peter sule K kissa was wonderful, if not the best journalist who has ever walked on the surface of uganda!
Well stated. Thanks for tuning in Jimmy Kats. Hope your fine because that silence is worrying. Stay safe
@@OWANAPAEDIA 🤣😂ok ! Mbadde mukamoli.
@@jimmykats7615 Hahahaha Ojakusasula fine ya kamoli.
@@OWANAPAEDIA 😂🤣. Nsonyiwa sebo nga bwe ndi first time offender.
All these are seeming to have been way much better journalists - Judging by the depth of their questions - Compared to the riff-raff we currently have on the airwaves.
Yes am in attendance.!
Thanks for attending today but you better write a full report explaining why you have been absent in class before you are expelled.
@@OWANAPAEDIA I have been there hustling to make ends meet ofcourse during these unprecedented time.
But am in class now Mwalimu😌😌
Col Gad Wilson Toko was a brilliant mind. I was 15 when the talks were going on in Nairobi.
He was but the government he was presiding over had very very complicated characters. You will see what we mean shortly.
Next time, don't come like a Kurutu (recruit). Your cap MUST march the entire attire. Otherwise, I appreciate your endeavour to educate.
May God reward you abundantly.
Noted comrade, but this is exactly what I wanted to portray. Those armed fellows who walked into Kampala after the 27 July 1985 coup had nothing to describe as uniform. I pray that God hears your prayer to reward me!!
Banange today Uncle Tony is a general . Very smart . 😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
General? Maybe impostor!! Thanks for the compliment.
Took was so so brilliant, articulate.i missed him
Weldone mr owana 🤝👏
Shukrani!
Thanks so much Mzee Owanapidiya For that Great History of Our Country. May God bless you
Amen, Thank you for tuning in.
The minister of Defence was a genious
the more I pay attention to Uganda's presidents since in independence all are the same and actually its only after 20 years that Museveni chooses to speak how he pleases
A member of Owanapaedia subscribers council in class too
Attendance noted, however, we have to talk about the membership fee collection for that council. Stay safe
@@OWANAPAEDIA hahahaha...no worries sir
@@nuwehillary2855 Stay safe
At minute 6:44 Mr. Dean mentioned Anya-nya as one of rebels group, who were they ?
Please carefully go back to the clarification by Toko and Gen. Bazilio on Anya-Nya. Thanks for tuning in. Stay safe
@@OWANAPAEDIA tell us more about the plane that had come to clear off all people and m7 who was being sworn in as president of uganda at parliament compound .i was just 13 yr
𝔸𝕟𝕪𝕒𝕟𝕪𝕒 𝕨𝕖𝕣𝕖 𝔸𝕞𝕚𝕟𝕤 𝕥𝕣𝕚𝕓𝕖 𝕠𝕣 𝕘𝕣𝕠𝕦𝕡𝕤
Please tell me more about media guy called Peter swilkey kissa
Thank you Mzei Owana, such information helps in guiding our people especially the youths who seem to take the item called Peace for granted! God bless you.
Amen. Thanks for tuning to Owanapaedia Mukulu Mwesigye. Stay blessed
Can u get for us old wisdom of the early and late 60s too
Museveni was not a citizen
Like Owanapedia
why are some comments deleted.
If they don't meet the standards, they will automatically be deleted. Am glad yours ain't deleted. Thank you for tuning in.
And we are strong hotheadedly moving to that failed state status. Oh, we never learn.
Thanks Tony
I would like you to tell us about I.K.Musazi he went into oblivion after the splitting up of UNC. Thanks
We are working on something about him, stay tuned not to miss it out. Hope you already subscribed. Stay safe
@@OWANAPAEDIA Thanks a lot. i subscribed long ago and am a very committed member here
@@pedsonasiimwe2135 Awwwwww.....thanks a lot for the commitment. Stay safe
I was a student then in s5 am happy some of the journalist r alive
Owana your videos are informative.. Basilio was not Langi
He was Acholi from Kitgum
13:25 who was he talking about?
WHO???!!!😲😲
We can all point out that Toko wasn't a person of that time , quiet articulate
To be fair Okello had less than a year in power. There was also lots of war going on in the country at the time, being carried by different factions. So u can't really judge him. But his response to overthrow of Obote's government was rather premature, and very childish.
Things change. See the young Kuteesa, negotiating on behalf of the military government!
Kutesa has only grown older; he is very much around...
That regime was hell, Obote arrested my father on allegations that he was supplying NRA rebels with food,he was sentenced for three years in Luzira after serving he was transferred to Gulu where they kept tossing him in offices these pple were so tribal, in Gulu we survived narrowly the day we left when NRA had captured Gulu The following day all the lalokas were killed the barracks was invaded no non Acholi was spared.
Is your father still alive?
@@OWANAPAEDIA yes is alive.
how did u go to Gulu if your father was taken as prisoner?
@@byttlejuice145 that was after his release from luzira he was moved to Gulu.
@@danielbatema2857 u said in Gulu u survived narrowly, my question is how did u go to Gulu? And why? Because u make it sound like u lived in Gulu
I realise he who has fought a war knows the price of peace..
Thank you
UGANDANS WHERE STRUGGLING FOR PEACE WHILE M7 WAS ON OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
Where were you?
@@OWANAPAEDIA iIN UGANDA
Toko doesn't have this very strong baganda accent unlike mr Owada.
Owanapaedia thank you for the history. By the way I nearly winced when you exposed your six pack only to realize you are a healthy man !!
I can see Bazilio's command of the English language was problematic but I think he meant well. Why couldn't they get a translator so he speaks in swahili ?
I will be more careful with 'indecent exposure' in future!
Translator for Gen Bazilio? To prove widespread rumours that he had not gone to school? No one in the country was foolish enough to suggest it. Not even Hon Dr. Ojok Mulozi who was Minister for Information. Believe me Gen. Bazilio may have sounded modest in this clip but....
@@OWANAPAEDIA But what Sir?
@@rushokim Hehehe, feel free to fill in the missing gap......thanks for tuning in, we appreciate. Don't forget to subscribe
This is good history
We are glad you like it, thanks for tuning in.
Wow all the other fighting group accepted to put down their weapons for the love of peace in their country,for sure those pipo liked their pipo unlike those who refused the good idea long live their souls
The guy avua lino is in arua living a quite life as a believer in Jesus Christ
Can you kindly share his contact if you don't mind. Thank you so much for tuning in.
The problem of Uganda began long time the day m7 joined political journey in 1962 he has been the problem till now
Museveni was 18 years old in 1962. What were you doing at the time comrade? We shall be glad to learn from you.
@LEILA NABZ Which man?! If you are talking about Museveni, read my first reply well. Thanks for tuning in Leila, stay safe
@LEILA NABZ Kindly explain what you are responding to?!
@LEILA NABZ Thanks for being on OwanaPaedia.
Judging by your names given above, how can one determine your citizenship, for the purposes of this argument?
@LEILA NABZ Which papers did he present in 1986 and for which purpose? Because there were no elections in 86?! Might he have been applying for leadership?! I don't want to get so deep into whether he is a citizen or not because there are already many clips on this platform that can explain hat. Meanwhile thanks for tuning
Tony, thank you so much for these historical footages. To be honest,I know many are going to hate my comment, but for me, its after digging up on our history that I turned from a big hater to lover of president M7. Weaknesses aside, we have NEVER in the history of our republic had a better president for the country and it's a bit scary to imagine the future without him.
I'll await the abuses to follow this
Peace
Rodger Village I think the history you read, were written by those who hate Uganda. Otherwise, what is it that Museveni has done which the past leaders did not do for the good of Ugandans? At least, after indpendent, the government that came to power lead by the UPC, headed by late Milton Obote built new public health facilities in the name of national hospitals through out Uganda, more than 20 of them. Those health facilities had medicines, docotors and nurses including other workers. This is why in 1969 when there was an assasination attempt on the life of late Obote by a muganda who just hated the president because he is not a mugada, he was treated in Lugogo. In the same health facitities most of the children were born in Uganda. Today, the current leader go abroad to get treatement. How many leaders from other countries come to get gealth treatement in Uganda health facilities? Most of you care about tribalism but not the country that is why you always try to praise Museveni who has killed Ugandans more than any other leaders before. You people are very strong in portraying the late Obote as a bad leader yet they could not take him to any court. Some of us will not leave Museveni and his murderous the moment they are out of power. They will face the law by all means.
I appeal to anyone planning to abuse you to kindly do it on another platform...
I don’t know how old you are but let me give you one fact
Corruption as we know it today started with your beloved president
And corruption kills more people than guns
Uganda has never been perfect ever,but it is a lot worse now
Habib Magala, corruption as a cancer on the whole of Africa even worse in states like Kenya that have never had a successful military coup. In fact the way I see it Museveni has controlled it well in Uganda compared to other E.A states like Kenya, Congo-DRC, S.Sudan, Burundi...etc.
The historical facts is much appreciated, but i suggest you discard the military attire, which may negate our impression of your impartiality , given the fact that in Uganda today possession of military material is treason unless one is secretly endorsed , for example the recent issue with Andrew Mwenda, otherwise the subscribers my started to unsubscribe as Ugandans are sensitive to political partiality/ impartiality.
Webaale nnyo...
Webale kusiima. Stay safe
Sebbo webaale okukoola mubiiri!
Hahahahahaha....nkulaba onkina. Naye webale kubela kumukutu. Stay safe
M7 Rescued uganda these guys did a lot of killing those who knows we know
Uuuhm hypocrisy.
Propaganda just by this Owana
True. Thank you for tuning in.
These people wanted to take over Obote's government but they were pretending to be good but during that period of their regime there was a lot of suffering , soldiers were looting day and night.Killing was the order of the day.Some of us tested the music.