Hi Mike! Schade nur, dass Freenet nicht so wirklich viel genutzt wird. Hatte leider noch kein QSO wie wir es von 11m kennen. Ich hatte hier nur Firmen drin, die das als kostenlosen Betriebsfunk nutzen. Machst du was auf Freenet? 73 von 13HN831
Minor correction: According to Wikipedia, the ban in the Black Forest (Schwarzwald) and Swabian Alp (Schwäbische Alp) has been lifted in 2019. Except for some regions near the Polish border, the maximum power has also been increased to 1 Watt in the same year.
Very accurate video about the German Freenet. At my home in the southern Rhine-Main area is not very much going on. A handful of stations but despite all, interesting for the close range.
In the US we have MURS. 5 VHF frequencies that used to be part of the VHF business band pool allocation now license by rule focused mainly at business users like Walmart on 154.5700 (Blue Dot) and 154.6000 (Green Dot) MHz . However many militia groups and prepper groups are using MURS because VHF propagates better outside in the rural than the YHF counterpart service FRS does. There was a rumor floating about that MURS would be expanded to include the other two "Dot" frequencies - 151.6250 (Red Dot) and 151.9550 (Purple Dot) to the MURS allocation and allow digital modulation across all channels. Same was also said for GMRS but that died out after 2018.
In the Netherlands these bands (many more channels and also including the 153 MHz band that was used for the reverse direction in the ATF network) are allocated to "church radio". This is a service that replaced the landline-based service for handicapped and elderly that are unable to visit a church ceremony and got a loudspeaker connected to a dedicated telephone line that was patched to an audio amplifier in a local exchange, and used to send the audio of the sunday ceremonies to those people. When the phone company went commercial and technology changed, they claimed this service could no longer be offered and those frequencies were allocated and dedicated equipment was manufactured with ~5 Watt output. With the antennas usually placed in bell towers, the range would be several km for reception using a scanner or sometimes dedicated receivers. This system is still in operation today, although most churches using it are now providing internet streaming (often also with video) in addition to it, so it is likely to get phased out eventually. I think in the UK a similar system operates on some 27 MHz channels.
Would be interesting to hear your take on the Australian UHF CB allocation. 80 channels around 476-477MHz frequencies, both handheld and mobile transceivers, repeaters, and a maximum output power of 5 watts. It's the standard CB system in Australia these days (27MHz is still legal but only really used by hobbyists)
Freenet is legal up to 1W since 2019. 6 channels with 12.5 kHz spacing analogue/digital or 12 with 6.25 kHz spacing digital. It's often used in security companies because of the usable range and just a few other users.
If you want to be very precise, this is what Wikipedia says about it: In Official Journal Order No. 60/2019[2], the Federal Network Agency (BNetzA) adjusted the conditions of use for Freenet radio. For example, the maximum equivalent radiated power (ERP) was increased from 0.5 watts to 1 watt. The ban on Freenet use in the Black Forest and the Swabian Alb at altitudes above 600 meters was lifted. However, within 10 km of the border with Belgium and Poland, still only 0.5 watts radiated power (ERP) is permitted. Furthermore, the order restricts use to voice communication with handheld radios.
I had an old 25watt mini cab radio that had the 149MHz channels, it was controlled by a diode matrix board and I got it for a fiver for a 2 meter conversion project but the VCO would not reach below 147MHz so I ended up totally rebuilding some of the insides for use on 2 meters. Some people would tell me just to buy a 2 meter rig which I already have but there is nothing quite like having fun converting or building your own radio. There is something satisfying about old minicab radios working on 2 meters.
I have only ever heard one transmission from within the UK on Freenet frequencies. It was probably over five years ago now and there were lift conditions (tropospheric ducting) at the time. From the names of towns and villages being mentioned on air, I got the impression that the transmissions were coming from East Sussex or Kent. One of my DX goals is to receive a transmission from Germany itself during really good conditions. I'll let you know in the unlikely event that I ever manage it :-)
You may have a better chance with a long, vertical, direcional ham type antenna (pointing to Germany) with a pre-amplifier. If you can get a litle bandpass filter for those frequencies (you are not going to transmit, so....no problem). Best case scenario is people in Germany on high ground during promenades into the mountains. You should also go to a mountain with clear view, once you notice a propagation openning.
Interesting information!! I know first hand that 148 to 149.9 are used exclusively by the military and secret service in the states and these frequencies are used abroad in many other NATO and non NATO countries by the US military. There is also a small allocation of the 410 segment for use by the US military in many other countries on US military bases. As for Amature use and the use of Amature equipment on these bands, one would have to remove the final stage or two and bridge them out completely to comply with power regulations as well as physically modifying the programmability of the radio itself. Neither is impossible for the technically inclined Amature. What I find interesting is the fact that PMR service in the EU occupies the ham bands used in the states while 70cm ham bands are in the 430's. if I only had access to some of the "low split" GE Mastr II series mobiles. I could have easily converted them to the 430 split ( they operate in the 405-420 range) for use here in SV land as repeaters.
Got to love the German faith in regulations, 1/2 watt is the first to go, who is going to use a motorolla when UV5R's and 2 meter radios are around. No one can really tell the difference between 1/2 watt at 1/2 k or 100 watts 20 K away or at 10000 ft at 100K away.
IN THE USA WE HAVE MURS AND USE 2 WATTS. LICENSE FREE MURS, American VHF CB, also rendered as "Multi-Use Radio Service" - not to be confused with similar services such as FRS/GMRS, regular old 26-27 MHz CB, VHF marine or licensed land mobile (business radio) services. Short distance voice and data service for use by the general public for personal and business communications. Included in Part 95 of the FCC rules (Personal Radio Services) along with the more familiar services such as CB, FRS, GMRS, etc. Since it is a VHF CB service, MURS fills the gap between the UHF FM services (FRS/GMRS) and the original "Class D" HF AM/SSB 26-27 MHz CB service. MURS is similar in function and intended use to the Freenet license free 149 MHz service available in Germany, the various Nordic JAKTRADIO 155 MHz license free hunting radio services, the 142 MHz/143 MHz VHF CB band in Indonesia, the VHF LADD VHF trucking channels in Canada, and the "VHF 245" 245 MHz VHF CB service in Thailand, among other similar CB-like services worldwide. Maximum transmitter output power is 2 watts. No limit on effective radiated power (ERP). Antenna height is limited in FCC rules and the highest point of the MURS antenna must not be more than 18.3 meters (60 feet) above the ground or 6.10 meters (20 feet) above the highest point of the structure on which it is mounted.
I'm from Germany and I use CB, Freenet, and PMR in both mobile radios (mobiles being installed on my bicycle) and handhelds. Even though we are now allowed 1W on Freenet and Freenet/2m should be better in a downtown area in theory I've had much better success using 0.5W PMR than Freenet. Good thing about Freenet is that you don't have everyone on there compared to PMR (all the children with their walkie talkies, driving school for motorcycle instructions ...) because they are way more expensive.
I love watching these videos when you’re talking about the different services that are available across the big pond from here in the United States. Excellent series I enjoy watching
I believe the Americans have a band called Multi Use Radio Service. I guess it is equivalent to Freenet. Do you often hear radio traffic on that band? We do not have M.U.R.S. in Canada. However radio services are being cleared out of the channels the Americans use for M.U.R.S. so that we may have that service very soon. We have 11 meter Citizen's Band in AM/FM/SSB/CW, 49Mhz FM and FM narrow, GMRS/FRS, and 920 Mhz in some areas only. Of course, there are the licensed amateur bands and a VHF low service that we'd can sign up for it and pay a nominal fee. It is usually around 47 mhz.
I stayed at Penhale Camp when I was in the army cadets, in 1975. We had no idea it was also a listening station. You can still see the Nissen huts that we stayed in on Google Earth!
I read up on the Oz uhf CB slot in the 90s, sevral nations had v/uhf CB, Japan's 903-5MHz CB, meant the UK got decent 934MHz kit. NZ mirrors Oz uhf but maybe not as many repeaters - and 2*6*MHz hf CB. Probly more info on CB allocations these days, and let's not forget that CB began in the US - on uhf around 450MHz. 😎
I live in cologne and a few weeks Ago I just randomly found some people using the Freenet Channel 4 (149.087 MHz) almost every day. I can receive the signal quite good just with the Quanscheng UV K5 and a 40cm telescopic antenna. Maybe illegal transmitters with more power are used? Since it’s a urban area with many buildings.
I never knew about this Freenet. I live only 10 km from Germany in the south east of the Netherlands. Here in the Netherlands the 149 MHz band was one of the vhf bands used by taxi's mobile phone services. But I have not heard any taxi on the vhf frequencies for decades. Guess they moved to cellphone. I will check these frequencies again. Tnx!
USA needs to update A LOT of things but they don't because the USA is driven by cooperate power and money. If you own big radio manufacturing company like Midland or Cobra then you can literally pay the FCC to get rules changed to benefit you and your bank account. This happened in 2018 with the part 95 rule modifications. The FCC practically ignored the users and listened to the big radio guys and thus GMRS is still analog only and still has only 8 repeater channels, FRS got a 2 watt top limit, and CB is allowed bluetooth devices..
Had assumed that introduction of PMR 446 across Europe meant no other systems were operating, as the aim was harmonisation. Interesting to find out such anomalies still exist.
@@Jooles99 I'm sure Lewis will rise to the challenge in this interesting and superbly researched series 69.01250 Simplex CH1 - Sweden and Finland CH1 - 69.0125 Mhz FM 12.5 kHz CB CB 25 W CB No No ei7gl.blogspot.com/2020/06/69-mhz-licence-free-radio-band-in.html 4.35 69.03750 Simplex CH2 - Sweden and Finland CH2 - 69.0375 Mhz FM 12.5 kHz CB CB 25 W CB No No ei7gl.blogspot.com/2020/06/69-mhz-licence-free-radio-band-in.html 4.35 69.06250 Simplex CH3 - Sweden and Finland CH3 - 69.0625 Mhz FM 12.5 kHz CB CB 25 W CB No No ei7gl.blogspot.com/2020/06/69-mhz-licence-free-radio-band-in.html 4.34 69.08750 Simplex CH4 - Sweden and Finland CH4 - 69.0875 Mhz FM 12.5 kHz CB CB 25 W CB No No ei7gl.blogspot.com/2020/06/69-mhz-licence-free-radio-band-in.html 4.34 69.11250 Simplex CH5 - Sweden and Finland CH5 - 69.1125 Mhz FM 12.5 kHz CB CB 25 W CB No No ei7gl.blogspot.com/2020/06/69-mhz-licence-free-radio-band-in.html 4.34 69.13750 Simplex CH6 - Sweden and Finland CH6 - 69.1375 Mhz FM 12.5 kHz CB CB 25 W CB No No ei7gl.blogspot.com/2020/06/69-mhz-licence-free-radio-band-in.html 4.34 69.16250 Simplex CH7 - Sweden and Finland CH7 - 69.1625 Mhz FM 12.5 kHz CB CB 25 W CB No No ei7gl.blogspot.com/2020/06/69-mhz-licence-free-radio-band-in.html 4.34 69.18750 Simplex CH8 - Sweden and Finland CH8 - 69.1875 MHz Calling Channel FM 12.5 kHz CB CB 25 W CB No No ei7gl.blogspot.com/2020/06/69-mhz-licence-free-radio-band-in.html 4.34
@@TonyLing 69 MHz overlapped Russian OIRT FM BAND / CHINESE FM EXPANDED / CAMPUS BAND (64 - 108 MHz). Also Retekess TR601, Tecsun R-202T, Grundig Eton G2, Eton Traveller III, etc...
This Freeband radio service reminds me of the USA Multiple Use Radio Service which is governed by Title 47, Chapter 95 of the Code of Federal Regulations along with C.B., G.M.R.S., and F.R.S. MURS is on frequencies in the 151 & 154 MHz bands, transmitter power of 2 watts and external antennas are allowed but equipment must be "type certified" or possibly just installed by a licensesed technician.
Do you know the IC2730a Icom? I want to turn something into a mobile repeater. I'm looking for something to use in my Jeep for when I go hiking with my baofeng and my Jeep buddies. I'm looking at an IC2730a but I'm looking for someone to guide me. I'm a newbie.
I remember "accidently" finding the 149MHz mobile phone network in the US with my Radio Shack Patrolman back in the 1970's, seemed like only the rich & pimps were using the service at the time, I often wondered if they knew anyone with a VHF capable radio could eavesdrop 😋
Very informative! Can you do videos on the different CB radio frequencies in UK, EU, US & Brazil. I’ve heard it’s entirely difference frequencies in similar low band.
so I just need to identify as a german in order to use a freenet radio. let's get codenames like Müller, Hans, Wolfgang, Tanya, Heinrich, spräche with zie accent und everyfing gutenacht auf der frenzehen, jä?
You should include the sound of demodulated encryption in your next strange noises video if u have not already. I think theres a lot of confusion as to the difference between actual encryption and simple digital modulation types.
You could do something like showing the screen of an xts with the no encryption key logo, over audio of what it sounds like when u dont have the key, just so people know, and stop marking radio reference with the incorrect info.
There are some of transmission in Saskatchewan, Canada between 148Mhz to 150Mhz. It becomes more popular every year. However, it is 100% illegal. It has been growing in popularity since about 2005. It seems to be more widely used in winter for the hunters.
What about the short lived fm 43 mhz band in the UK in the early 1980's ... Also i do have a pair of CTR 29.8 mhz AM handhelds { each the size of two very large bricks LoL} sold in exchange and mart and markets stalls in the late 70's - early 80's.
I'm in the US, and I got my scanner fixed. I've found a guy at 143.20 talking and set up a repeater at 145. He gave his call sign and everything, is this still illegal?
As i type this there is a quite busy net going on on ch5 149.1 mHz... using first names n happy enough speakin to folk breaking in.. furthest south im guessin wakefield or leeds n north is Catterick...
Interesting upload. Strangely Here in Thailand where I live . They are ultra anal about HF and 27 Mhz. However their CB Frequencies are 245 Mhz and most users are running 30w ??? Unhindered.. I just imported a Galaxy DX-2547 to monitor LSB skip in S.E. Asia and had a major fight To receive the unit. Thai customs ,deemed the 4W AM 12 PEP SSB equipment as illegal .. Lol.. But as usual in these situations a greasy 35 quid lubricated the delivery process ... Pretty much the entire Thai fishing fleet ,and truckers all use 27 Mhz AM..In some cases SSB. But it just proves there is no Uniform way of thinking when using the spectrum.. I now hear the FCC are now turning the screw for more money from Hams in the U.S.A. ?? That runs concurrent with their newly found democracy !!! Lol.. 73s M7AVM Aways a pleasure dude..
Last time I was in UK I brought my FRS/GMRS Radio from the US & tried it there & nothing herd. Frequencies on FRS/GMRS radio goes from 462.5 to 462.7 MHz. I am not sure what UK uses on these frequencies. 149 MHz just above 2 meter ham band.
Here in the States, there are/were a very small number of frequencies in the VHF High band just above and below our 2 meter freqs (143.xxxx and 149.xxxx) that are for MARS - Military Affiliate Radio Service, and CAP Civil Air Patrol. There are/were both MARS repeaters and simplex chls in the 149.xxxx sliver. These "channels" were selected on purpose so that MARS & CAP members (most already Amateurs) could use gear gear already owned with just a very simple "Mod". The Kenwood TH K-20 was designed as such. One easy Mod will open the Tx to 142 to 150. There's a second one, which I ended up having done, opens it up 136-174 ! Today there are other dedicated frequencies/channels for MARS and CAP. Though I don't remember the exact freqs, the CAP now pretty much uses P25 in the LMR section of VHF.
How about 30mhz up over in Europe .I've listened to italian pmr and usa pmr between 31mhz and 39mhz .I have some captures on my UA-cam channel raybokor2
is there much illegal use of these ISM bands? 6.765 MHz 6.795 MHz 6.78 MHz 30 kHz A Subject to local acceptance FIXED SERVICE & Mobile service 13.553 MHz 13.567 MHz 13.56 MHz 14 kHz B Worldwide FIXED & Mobile services except Aeronautical mobile (R) service 40.66 MHz 40.7 MHz 40.68 MHz 40 kHz B Worldwide Fixed, Mobile services & Earth exploration-satellite service
Here in Sweden we can use 69 MHz radios and upp to 25W on canal 1-8 and 5W on 9-18 mobile and handheld. I am not going to buy a 69 MHz radio because i want to have skip and radio here in Sweden is dead so skip on 11m band is the only way for me...
We've also got repeater licenses in the regulations for that and they can be as high up as we want if the ACMA allow the license for the repeater at that site. Not really my cup of tea although I've played around with it. I reckon a 150 mhz CB band with 25 watts and FM and SSB would be good fun, but that's not happening of course especially when we have a VHF marine band there roughly and I think an EPIRB beacon allocation there too
@@BrianG61UK no mate it doesn't matter now and it didn't matter then. You're exaggerating. The amount of power a pirate radio would transmit is minimal and barely noticeable compared to let's say BBC radio 1.
Yes, our German network agency stopped in 1957, you can see the amateur radio license here, hardly anyone who has a normal job manages shifts 7 days a week, etc. It is slowly time to abolish this license 💩 because radio is a hobby and why get a license when I do want to speak to someone from England or USA? If nothing changes, the whole thing will mean the end of the hobby! Freenet or PMR is not a substitute! That's why I hope that many countries will participate. We will start a petition for a license for which you pay a fee of 80-100 € per year and thus can use the AFU tape. Licenses are no longer state of the art!
We have that in Canada in some areas and in some areas we can not have it. It is shared with amateur radio service. We have 11 meter CB, 49Mhz, (future 158mhz) , GMRS/FRS, for unlicensed radio. Of course we also have the licensed amateur radio bands. But the license is free. It is just a simple test. I have yet to take it.
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Here in Germany we can now use Freenet legal with 1 Watt and extendet Antenna like the Diamond x50.55 and 73 from Germany,13HN730
Hi Mike! Schade nur, dass Freenet nicht so wirklich viel genutzt wird. Hatte leider noch kein QSO wie wir es von 11m kennen. Ich hatte hier nur Firmen drin, die das als kostenlosen Betriebsfunk nutzen. Machst du was auf Freenet? 73 von 13HN831
Minor correction: According to Wikipedia, the ban in the Black Forest (Schwarzwald) and Swabian Alp (Schwäbische Alp) has been lifted in 2019. Except for some regions near the Polish border, the maximum power has also been increased to 1 Watt in the same year.
Very accurate video about the German Freenet. At my home in the southern Rhine-Main area is not very much going on. A handful of stations but despite all, interesting for the close range.
In the US we have MURS. 5 VHF frequencies that used to be part of the VHF business band pool allocation now license by rule focused mainly at business users like Walmart on 154.5700 (Blue Dot) and 154.6000 (Green Dot) MHz . However many militia groups and prepper groups are using MURS because VHF propagates better outside in the rural than the YHF counterpart service FRS does. There was a rumor floating about that MURS would be expanded to include the other two "Dot" frequencies - 151.6250 (Red Dot) and 151.9550 (Purple Dot) to the MURS allocation and allow digital modulation across all channels. Same was also said for GMRS but that died out after 2018.
In the Netherlands these bands (many more channels and also including the 153 MHz band that was used for the reverse direction in the ATF network) are allocated to "church radio".
This is a service that replaced the landline-based service for handicapped and elderly that are unable to visit a church ceremony and got a loudspeaker connected to a dedicated telephone line that was patched to an audio amplifier in a local exchange, and used to send the audio of the sunday ceremonies to those people.
When the phone company went commercial and technology changed, they claimed this service could no longer be offered and those frequencies were allocated and dedicated equipment was manufactured with ~5 Watt output. With the antennas usually placed in bell towers, the range would be several km for reception using a scanner or sometimes dedicated receivers.
This system is still in operation today, although most churches using it are now providing internet streaming (often also with video) in addition to it, so it is likely to get phased out eventually.
I think in the UK a similar system operates on some 27 MHz channels.
@@ericephemetherson3964 Says who?
Would be interesting to hear your take on the Australian UHF CB allocation. 80 channels around 476-477MHz frequencies, both handheld and mobile transceivers, repeaters, and a maximum output power of 5 watts. It's the standard CB system in Australia these days (27MHz is still legal but only really used by hobbyists)
Freenet is legal up to 1W since 2019. 6 channels with 12.5 kHz spacing analogue/digital or 12 with 6.25 kHz spacing digital. It's often used in security companies because of the usable range and just a few other users.
If you want to be very precise, this is what Wikipedia says about it: In Official Journal Order No. 60/2019[2], the Federal Network Agency (BNetzA) adjusted the conditions of use for Freenet radio. For example, the maximum equivalent radiated power (ERP) was increased from 0.5 watts to 1 watt. The ban on Freenet use in the Black Forest and the Swabian Alb at altitudes above 600 meters was lifted. However, within 10 km of the border with Belgium and Poland, still only 0.5 watts radiated power (ERP) is permitted. Furthermore, the order restricts use to voice communication with handheld radios.
I had an old 25watt mini cab radio that had the 149MHz channels, it was controlled by a diode matrix board and I got it for a fiver for a 2 meter conversion project but the VCO would not reach below 147MHz so I ended up totally rebuilding some of the insides for use on 2 meters. Some people would tell me just to buy a 2 meter rig which I already have but there is nothing quite like having fun converting or building your own radio. There is something satisfying about old minicab radios working on 2 meters.
I have only ever heard one transmission from within the UK on Freenet frequencies. It was probably over five years ago now and there were lift conditions (tropospheric ducting) at the time. From the names of towns and villages being mentioned on air, I got the impression that the transmissions were coming from East Sussex or Kent. One of my DX goals is to receive a transmission from Germany itself during really good conditions. I'll let you know in the unlikely event that I ever manage it :-)
Awesome Ed! Thanks for the comment as always!!
Trapo ducting is fun
You may have a better chance with a long, vertical, direcional ham type antenna (pointing to Germany) with a pre-amplifier.
If you can get a litle bandpass filter for those frequencies (you are not going to transmit, so....no problem).
Best case scenario is people in Germany on high ground during promenades into the mountains.
You should also go to a mountain with clear view, once you notice a propagation openning.
@@jplacido9999 would have to be one good ducting to get from Germany to Australia
@@VK9TOM my friend, I was adressing Mr. Edmund Spicer in East Preston 👍
Interesting information!!
I know first hand that 148 to 149.9 are used exclusively by the military and secret service in the states and these frequencies are used abroad in many other NATO and non NATO countries by the US military. There is also a small allocation of the 410 segment for use by the US military in many other countries on US military bases.
As for Amature use and the use of Amature equipment on these bands, one would have to remove the final stage or two and bridge them out completely to comply with power regulations as well as physically modifying the programmability of the radio itself. Neither is impossible for the technically inclined Amature.
What I find interesting is the fact that PMR service in the EU occupies the ham bands used in the states while 70cm ham bands are in the 430's. if I only had access to some of the "low split" GE Mastr II series mobiles. I could have easily converted them to the 430 split ( they operate in the 405-420 range) for use here in SV land as repeaters.
Got to love the German faith in regulations, 1/2 watt is the first to go, who is going to use a motorolla when UV5R's and 2 meter radios are around. No one can really tell the difference between 1/2 watt at 1/2 k or 100 watts 20 K away or at 10000 ft at 100K away.
IN THE USA WE HAVE MURS AND USE 2 WATTS. LICENSE FREE
MURS, American VHF CB, also rendered as "Multi-Use Radio Service" - not to be confused with similar services such as FRS/GMRS, regular old 26-27 MHz CB, VHF marine or licensed land mobile (business radio) services.
Short distance voice and data service for use by the general public for personal and business communications. Included in Part 95 of the FCC rules (Personal Radio Services) along with the more familiar services such as CB, FRS, GMRS, etc. Since it is a VHF CB service, MURS fills the gap between the UHF FM services (FRS/GMRS) and the original "Class D" HF AM/SSB 26-27 MHz CB service.
MURS is similar in function and intended use to the Freenet license free 149 MHz service available in Germany, the various Nordic JAKTRADIO 155 MHz license free hunting radio services, the 142 MHz/143 MHz VHF CB band in Indonesia, the VHF LADD VHF trucking channels in Canada, and the "VHF 245" 245 MHz VHF CB service in Thailand, among other similar CB-like services worldwide.
Maximum transmitter output power is 2 watts. No limit on effective radiated power (ERP). Antenna height is limited in FCC rules and the highest point of the MURS antenna must not be more than 18.3 meters (60 feet) above the ground or 6.10 meters (20 feet) above the highest point of the structure on which it is mounted.
I'm from Germany and I use CB, Freenet, and PMR in both mobile radios (mobiles being installed on my bicycle) and handhelds. Even though we are now allowed 1W on Freenet and Freenet/2m should be better in a downtown area in theory I've had much better success using 0.5W PMR than Freenet. Good thing about Freenet is that you don't have everyone on there compared to PMR (all the children with their walkie talkies, driving school for motorcycle instructions ...) because they are way more expensive.
I love watching these videos when you’re talking about the different services that are available across the big pond from here in the United States. Excellent series I enjoy watching
Thanks so much!
I believe the Americans have a band called Multi Use Radio Service. I guess it is equivalent to Freenet. Do you often hear radio traffic on that band? We do not have M.U.R.S. in Canada. However radio services are being cleared out of the channels the Americans use for M.U.R.S. so that we may have that service very soon. We have 11 meter Citizen's Band in AM/FM/SSB/CW, 49Mhz FM and FM narrow, GMRS/FRS, and 920 Mhz in some areas only. Of course, there are the licensed amateur bands and a VHF low service that we'd can sign up for it and pay a nominal fee. It is usually around 47 mhz.
Might be worth a monitor to see if any signals can be received, when conditions allow of course.
I stayed at Penhale Camp when I was in the army cadets, in 1975. We had no idea it was also a listening station. You can still see the Nissen huts that we stayed in on Google Earth!
I read up on the Oz uhf CB slot in the 90s, sevral nations had v/uhf CB, Japan's 903-5MHz CB, meant the UK got decent 934MHz kit. NZ mirrors Oz uhf but maybe not as many repeaters - and 2*6*MHz hf CB. Probly more info on CB allocations these days, and let's not forget that CB began in the US - on uhf around 450MHz. 😎
The max ERP is now 1000mW..and is a good alternative to PMR.
I live in cologne and a few weeks Ago I just randomly found some people using the Freenet Channel 4 (149.087 MHz) almost every day.
I can receive the signal quite good just with the Quanscheng UV K5 and a 40cm telescopic antenna.
Maybe illegal transmitters with more power are used? Since it’s a urban area with many buildings.
Always look forward to your uploads✊🏽😎 UA-cam channel of the year 2020.
Top job ..😁
Thanks so much mate
I never knew about this Freenet. I live only 10 km from Germany in the south east of the Netherlands. Here in the Netherlands the 149 MHz band was one of the vhf bands used by taxi's mobile phone services. But I have not heard any taxi on the vhf frequencies for decades. Guess they moved to cellphone.
I will check these frequencies again. Tnx!
Another fantastic video Lewis please keep them coming,very informative .
USA needs to update the CB to FM.
USA needs to update A LOT of things but they don't because the USA is driven by cooperate power and money. If you own big radio manufacturing company like Midland or Cobra then you can literally pay the FCC to get rules changed to benefit you and your bank account. This happened in 2018 with the part 95 rule modifications. The FCC practically ignored the users and listened to the big radio guys and thus GMRS is still analog only and still has only 8 repeater channels, FRS got a 2 watt top limit, and CB is allowed bluetooth devices..
WE IN THE USA HAVE MURS . WE USE 2 WATTS VHF/FM LICENSE FREE.
@@christophersmith1155 We also have control of our caps lock key.
im a old guy. i dont type much
@@christophersmith1155 no licence required to use both GMRS and FRS in Canada.
Had assumed that introduction of PMR 446 across Europe meant no other systems were operating, as the aim was harmonisation. Interesting to find out such anomalies still exist.
Another in Northern Europe are the eight 25W channels in the 69 MHz region for Sweden and Finland.
@@TonyLing Hopefully a video on 69MHz will be in the works.....
@@Jooles99 I'm sure Lewis will rise to the challenge in this interesting and superbly researched series
69.01250 Simplex CH1 - Sweden and Finland CH1 - 69.0125 Mhz FM 12.5 kHz CB CB 25 W CB No No ei7gl.blogspot.com/2020/06/69-mhz-licence-free-radio-band-in.html 4.35
69.03750 Simplex CH2 - Sweden and Finland CH2 - 69.0375 Mhz FM 12.5 kHz CB CB 25 W CB No No ei7gl.blogspot.com/2020/06/69-mhz-licence-free-radio-band-in.html 4.35
69.06250 Simplex CH3 - Sweden and Finland CH3 - 69.0625 Mhz FM 12.5 kHz CB CB 25 W CB No No ei7gl.blogspot.com/2020/06/69-mhz-licence-free-radio-band-in.html 4.34
69.08750 Simplex CH4 - Sweden and Finland CH4 - 69.0875 Mhz FM 12.5 kHz CB CB 25 W CB No No ei7gl.blogspot.com/2020/06/69-mhz-licence-free-radio-band-in.html 4.34
69.11250 Simplex CH5 - Sweden and Finland CH5 - 69.1125 Mhz FM 12.5 kHz CB CB 25 W CB No No ei7gl.blogspot.com/2020/06/69-mhz-licence-free-radio-band-in.html 4.34
69.13750 Simplex CH6 - Sweden and Finland CH6 - 69.1375 Mhz FM 12.5 kHz CB CB 25 W CB No No ei7gl.blogspot.com/2020/06/69-mhz-licence-free-radio-band-in.html 4.34
69.16250 Simplex CH7 - Sweden and Finland CH7 - 69.1625 Mhz FM 12.5 kHz CB CB 25 W CB No No ei7gl.blogspot.com/2020/06/69-mhz-licence-free-radio-band-in.html 4.34
69.18750 Simplex CH8 - Sweden and Finland CH8 - 69.1875 MHz Calling Channel FM 12.5 kHz CB CB 25 W CB No No ei7gl.blogspot.com/2020/06/69-mhz-licence-free-radio-band-in.html 4.34
@@sutitigi It would work so well with my 4m equipment (IC-7300 and Sirio antenna)
@@TonyLing 69 MHz overlapped Russian OIRT FM BAND / CHINESE FM EXPANDED / CAMPUS BAND (64 - 108 MHz). Also Retekess TR601, Tecsun R-202T, Grundig Eton G2, Eton Traveller III, etc...
When I was in Germany my ham radio call was DL4KL.
Another great video Lewis and never knew about free nett but could in the future
I love your german pronounciation :D keep up your work, i am chasing my license ;)
73's!
Haha is that a joke?
Interesting stuff. Hope you get around to the Scandi hunter's radio allocation - some real oddities there!
All on the list :)
This Freeband radio service reminds me of the USA Multiple Use Radio Service which is governed by Title 47, Chapter 95 of the Code of Federal Regulations along with C.B., G.M.R.S., and F.R.S. MURS is on frequencies in the 151 & 154 MHz bands, transmitter power of 2 watts and external antennas are allowed but equipment must be "type certified" or possibly just installed by a licensesed technician.
Do you know the IC2730a Icom? I want to turn something into a mobile repeater.
I'm looking for something to use in my Jeep for when I go hiking with my baofeng and my Jeep buddies.
I'm looking at an IC2730a but I'm looking for someone to guide me. I'm a newbie.
Interesting video Ringway enjoyed the information provided thanks Andrew
I remember "accidently" finding the 149MHz mobile phone network in the US with my Radio Shack Patrolman back in the 1970's, seemed like only the rich & pimps were using the service at the time, I often wondered if they knew anyone with a VHF capable radio could eavesdrop 😋
It was a tad higher at 152 MHz...149 MHz in the US is government spectrum.
Very informative! Can you do videos on the different CB radio frequencies in UK, EU, US & Brazil. I’ve heard it’s entirely difference frequencies in similar low band.
so I just need to identify as a german in order to use a freenet radio.
let's get codenames like Müller, Hans, Wolfgang, Tanya, Heinrich, spräche with zie accent und everyfing gutenacht auf der frenzehen, jä?
More quality video Lewis thanks 👍👏👏
Interesting, and interesting to know what band is used for here in the UK! 😉
You should include the sound of demodulated encryption in your next strange noises video if u have not already. I think theres a lot of confusion as to the difference between actual encryption and simple digital modulation types.
You could do something like showing the screen of an xts with the no encryption key logo, over audio of what it sounds like when u dont have the key, just so people know, and stop marking radio reference with the incorrect info.
There are some of transmission in Saskatchewan, Canada between 148Mhz to 150Mhz. It becomes more popular every year. However, it is 100% illegal. It has been growing in popularity since about 2005. It seems to be more widely used in winter for the hunters.
Nice to know what's going on, europe this helps me to know about how, the uk is on top of that.
Apparently in Europe and the UK you don't use english?
Which nations may use Freenet legally? Do you know where a list may be found. There is little information on this radio band in Canada.
Here is a list: Germany.
@David Wanklyn Yes, both. Nationwide law and restrictions.
Hey, I've got some of those old Ascom/Bosch SE radios Lewis. Some of the ex Fire and Rescue services
Awesome mate, they’re indestructible aren’t they!
What about the short lived fm 43 mhz band in the UK in the early 1980's ... Also i do have a pair of CTR 29.8 mhz AM handhelds { each the size of two very large bricks LoL} sold in exchange and mart and markets stalls in the late 70's - early 80's.
I'm in the US, and I got my scanner fixed. I've found a guy at 143.20 talking and set up a repeater at 145. He gave his call sign and everything, is this still illegal?
Very unlikely if the 143.20 was really used.
Also used for Police or Commercial Radios in some countries.
This seems similar to the MURS band.
As i type this there is a quite busy net going on on ch5 149.1 mHz... using first names n happy enough speakin to folk breaking in.. furthest south im guessin wakefield or leeds n north is Catterick...
Nice one Lewis
Interesting upload. Strangely Here in Thailand where I live . They are ultra anal about HF and 27 Mhz. However their CB Frequencies are 245 Mhz and most users are running 30w ??? Unhindered.. I just imported a Galaxy DX-2547 to monitor LSB skip in S.E. Asia and had a major fight To receive the unit. Thai customs ,deemed the 4W AM 12 PEP SSB equipment as illegal .. Lol.. But as usual in these situations a greasy 35 quid lubricated the delivery process ... Pretty much the entire Thai fishing fleet ,and truckers all use 27 Mhz AM..In some cases SSB. But it just proves there is no Uniform way of thinking when using the spectrum.. I now hear the FCC are now turning the screw for more money from Hams in the U.S.A. ?? That runs concurrent with their newly found democracy !!! Lol.. 73s M7AVM Aways a pleasure dude..
Nicely explained. ❤️👍
think i will stick with my Cobra148gtlDX mk2 & Lincoln 28/30..73s 51s....
Oi! If ya can link that video with and Andy, be much appreciated. (too many videos to find it)
Cheers!
Mick
Very good video and information.
Very interesting Thanks lewis
Last time I was in UK I brought my FRS/GMRS Radio from the US & tried it there & nothing herd. Frequencies on FRS/GMRS radio goes from 462.5 to 462.7 MHz. I am not sure what UK uses on these frequencies. 149 MHz just above 2 meter ham band.
Here in the States, there are/were a very small number of frequencies in the VHF High band just above and below our 2 meter freqs (143.xxxx and 149.xxxx) that are for MARS - Military Affiliate Radio Service, and CAP Civil Air Patrol. There are/were both MARS repeaters and simplex chls in the 149.xxxx sliver. These "channels" were selected on purpose so that MARS & CAP members (most already Amateurs) could use gear gear already owned with just a very simple "Mod". The Kenwood TH K-20 was designed as such. One easy Mod will open the Tx to 142 to 150. There's a second one, which I ended up having done, opens it up 136-174 ! Today there are other dedicated frequencies/channels for MARS and CAP. Though I don't remember the exact freqs, the CAP now pretty much uses P25 in the LMR section of VHF.
How about 30mhz up over in Europe .I've listened to italian pmr and usa pmr between 31mhz and 39mhz .I have some captures on my UA-cam channel raybokor2
Army frequency I think
One can spend way too much on GMRS and not get the simple pleasure you get with an FRS radio.
So, does anyone there say, “You got your ears on - comeback”? Or how about: “That’s a big 10-4. I’ll catch you on the flip flop”?
Hi is there a calling channel ?
Nice, thanks
I'm sure maplin or Tandy sold those yellow radios, God bless you all ecstasy family we are one consciousness 😀❤❤😀
Yes I have a vague recollection as well and there was another colour as well if I remember , but it was a good many years ago
Да, у вас есть такое. А у нас не разрешена такая частота.
What does 'legal' mean?.
is there much illegal use of these ISM bands?
6.765 MHz 6.795 MHz 6.78 MHz 30 kHz A Subject to local acceptance FIXED SERVICE & Mobile service
13.553 MHz 13.567 MHz 13.56 MHz 14 kHz B Worldwide FIXED & Mobile services except Aeronautical mobile (R) service
40.66 MHz 40.7 MHz 40.68 MHz 40 kHz B Worldwide Fixed, Mobile services & Earth exploration-satellite service
Legal: Digital
Amateur: Analogue
So no issues with interference
If they operate on the same frequency, analogue and digital will cause interference to each other.
MI6 use 149MHz? Interesting if true!
It’s allocated to them :)
Here in Sweden we can use 69 MHz radios and upp to 25W on canal 1-8 and 5W on 9-18 mobile and handheld. I am not going to buy a 69 MHz radio because i want to have skip and radio here in Sweden is dead so skip on 11m band is the only way for me...
What about ECHO CHARLIE 6.6 mhw - 3.4 mhz etc etc
Écho Charlie ? 🤔 pirat band. Here in France you can receive lot of asshole on 6.660 lsb
Now we have cell phones.
Like to know why Thailand rigs are red
They’re not are they?
Is this cb?
we have 477mhz cb radio in australia 5 watts
Also used for US Police radio frequencies.
We've also got repeater licenses in the regulations for that and they can be as high up as we want if the ACMA allow the license for the repeater at that site. Not really my cup of tea although I've played around with it.
I reckon a 150 mhz CB band with 25 watts and FM and SSB would be good fun, but that's not happening of course especially when we have a VHF marine band there roughly and I think an EPIRB beacon allocation there too
There are several chineses rádios, used by the people, arround the world, without licence. These Freenet is not important.
Its 1 Watt Power now 0,5 w is old Information
I just do what I want. GOVERNMENT control is wrong . Transmit where you like, just avoid airband etc
@@BrianG61UK no mate it doesn't matter now and it didn't matter then. You're exaggerating. The amount of power a pirate radio would transmit is minimal and barely noticeable compared to let's say BBC radio 1.
@@BrianG61UK who cares about that. I transmit on VHF all the time without a license 😉 145.500 is my playground
Yes, our German network agency stopped in 1957, you can see the amateur radio license here, hardly anyone who has a normal job manages shifts 7 days a week, etc. It is slowly time to abolish this license 💩 because radio is a hobby and why get a license when I do want to speak to someone from England or USA? If nothing changes, the whole thing will mean the end of the hobby! Freenet or PMR is not a substitute! That's why I hope that many countries will participate. We will start a petition for a license for which you pay a fee of 80-100 € per year and thus can use the AFU tape. Licenses are no longer state of the art!
Nicely explained. pa3crl
900mhz cb
We have that in Canada in some areas and in some areas we can not have it. It is shared with amateur radio service. We have 11 meter CB, 49Mhz, (future 158mhz) , GMRS/FRS, for unlicensed radio. Of course we also have the licensed amateur radio bands. But the license is free. It is just a simple test. I have yet to take it.