I once got to send a cart down on the personnel elevator on a 747. Pressing the button was the thrill of a lifetime! I still remember the flight attendants cheering for me as I realized a dream! The purser was so sweet to grant me permission to do it. I am sure it would not happen in the current age of air travel. On my trip to Australian, I was lucky enough to get a seat across from the elevators. Watching the carts go up and down was the most wonderful part of the trip, back in the glory days of flying!
I once had to use the escape hatch mentioned in the video. It opened up in the left aisle of Cabin Class. You can imagine the shocked looks I got from the pax in that area.
On my trip to Australia, the galley flight attendant used the ladder to go in and out of the lower galley. She would open the door to the cart lift and stick her head out to talk to the flight attendants on the main deck. I remember talking to her when she was downstairs. I guess she did not like riding the personnel elevator, or using the galley phone. The purser did not see to care what she did. I am not sure if the captain knew what was going on. This was in 1988, and I remember it like it was yesterday. Wish I had that on video!
PanAm had 2 of these AC, N9670 Empress of the Skies, and N9674 Beacon Light. They originally were made for American Airlines, hence the 123 code for that carrier.
The DC-10 Lower Lobe galley arrangement was so much better than what was installed on the 747s. Only original 747 delivery customers AA, UA and QF had lower galleys on their aircraft. PA purchased these 747-123s from AA. The DC-10 LLG did not have that ridiculous halo on its cart lift. The cart lift operated in a properly enclosed shaft. So many other things come to mind, including the fact that the DC-10 had a proper ladder for emergency egress.
I would hazard it to be N9674 - Here is my thoughts :P - N9674 came on line first in January 1983, while N9670 did not come on line until May 1984. One would figure you would need the training video when the first one went out on the line.
So am I correct in assuming that this film was prepared for cabin staff that were being retrained by Pan Am from DC-10s to American's 747s when both airlines exchanged aircraft in 1983/1984?
Yes, some 747s and more notably Dc-10s and Lockheed Tristars all utilised extra cargo space in the form of a lower galley below the main passenger deck. Some airlines opted to turn this space into a lounge, particularly on the Lockheed. The only modern example of utilising lower deck space is the A340-600 which has the option of grouped lavatories below deck. Here’s another example of a lower deck galley in use on the DC-10 🙂 ua-cam.com/video/qLkUQSlcB7Q/v-deo.html
@@jamesdelatour2266 as well as Lufthansa’s A346s, some A330s ordered for charter airline use (notably Thomas Cook) also utilised some room on the lower deck for lavatories, as freight was never intended to be carried.
@@NaenaeGaming yes I forgot about Thomas cook, being a leisure airline high density seating was a priority therefor why not put some toilets downstairs
@@jamesdelatour2266 it was the prized working position at Airtours on their 330's. As it was a passenger area there had to be a crew member (lav attendant) positioned down there at all times.
Don’t know if it was added later, but the L-1011 had a bunch of safety interlock switches for this reason. The lift would not move until two switches (away from the doorway) were actuated.
I once got to send a cart down on the personnel elevator on a 747. Pressing the button was the thrill of a lifetime! I still remember the flight attendants cheering for me as I realized a dream! The purser was so sweet to grant me permission to do it. I am sure it would not happen in the current age of air travel. On my trip to Australian, I was lucky enough to get a seat across from the elevators. Watching the carts go up and down was the most wonderful part of the trip, back in the glory days of flying!
I once had to use the escape hatch mentioned in the video. It opened up in the left aisle of Cabin Class. You can imagine the shocked looks I got from the pax in that area.
On my trip to Australia, the galley flight attendant used the ladder to go in and out of the lower galley. She would open the door to the cart lift and stick her head out to talk to the flight attendants on the main deck. I remember talking to her when she was downstairs. I guess she did not like riding the personnel elevator, or using the galley phone. The purser did not see to care what she did. I am not sure if the captain knew what was going on. This was in 1988, and I remember it like it was yesterday. Wish I had that on video!
From an age when international air travel was something to behold.We still miss you Pan Am!
PanAm had 2 of these AC, N9670 Empress of the Skies, and N9674 Beacon Light. They originally were made for American Airlines, hence the 123 code for that carrier.
The DC-10 Lower Lobe galley arrangement was so much better than what was installed on the 747s. Only original 747 delivery customers AA, UA and QF had lower galleys on their aircraft. PA purchased these 747-123s from AA.
The DC-10 LLG did not have that ridiculous halo on its cart lift. The cart lift operated in a properly enclosed shaft. So many other things come to mind, including the fact that the DC-10 had a proper ladder for emergency egress.
So cool to see all these videos posted!
I love their quirks and features. It’s so interesting.
2:25 The cabin interphone cord needs a little attention, you'd think someone would have taken the 3 minutes to untangle the thing before filming.
I would hazard it to be N9674 - Here is my thoughts :P - N9674 came on line first in January 1983, while N9670 did not come on line until May 1984. One would figure you would need the training video when the first one went out on the line.
I was scrolling comments for a good theory!
Wow! I never knew the 747 had a lower galley! I thought just the DC-10 and L-1011s had one. It seems like the 747s gallies were smaller?
So am I correct in assuming that this film was prepared for cabin staff that were being retrained by Pan Am from DC-10s to American's 747s when both airlines exchanged aircraft in 1983/1984?
My right ear enjoyed this
Is this where the liquor locker is located? Imagine a lot of hanky panky could occur in this cloistered area of the plane
Lower deck galley?
Yes, some 747s and more notably Dc-10s and Lockheed Tristars all utilised extra cargo space in the form of a lower galley below the main passenger deck. Some airlines opted to turn this space into a lounge, particularly on the Lockheed. The only modern example of utilising lower deck space is the A340-600 which has the option of grouped lavatories below deck. Here’s another example of a lower deck galley in use on the DC-10 🙂
ua-cam.com/video/qLkUQSlcB7Q/v-deo.html
@@jamesdelatour2266 as well as Lufthansa’s A346s, some A330s ordered for charter airline use (notably Thomas Cook) also utilised some room on the lower deck for lavatories, as freight was never intended to be carried.
@@NaenaeGaming yes I forgot about Thomas cook, being a leisure airline high density seating was a priority therefor why not put some toilets downstairs
@@jamesdelatour2266 it was the prized working position at Airtours on their 330's. As it was a passenger area there had to be a crew member (lav attendant) positioned down there at all times.
How did passengers access the lower deck lavatories? By stairs or an elevator?
After Pan Am went under, didn’t these 747s get sold to United?
Former American Airlines 747-123 with lower lobe galley.
747 123 means 747 100 series is the first production line 1969/1970 ,then 747 200 series replaced it.
What escape hatch ? 😆
No sound
It’s pretty shocking that despite all the safety features one of those cart lifts crushed a flight attendant to death. Wasn’t a pan am but still 🤓
What happened?
It was actually a Dc10 but same galley and cart lift configuration
It was World Airways
That's why they put it in, to be cautious and dont stand underneath it lol
Don’t know if it was added later, but the L-1011 had a bunch of safety interlock switches for this reason. The lift would not move until two switches (away from the doorway) were actuated.