Rolex Rant - Waitlist, Buying, Owning, Selling
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2022
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Join us for our Rolex therapy session. We talk about the challenges of buying Rolex, with the infamous Rolex Waitlist, what it's like buying and owning a Rolex and also being bored of Rolex.
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Intro is hilarious! I worked at a Rolex AD in my early 20's (1986) and I've been in love since.
Hang on, sorry… I just clocked! You guys have a FIVE camera setup. God bless the poor committed soul who does the edit on these. Great job chaps. Production quality alongside the great banter, really appreciated. 👑👑👑👑
Sean. You just made my day. I am indeed that poor soul. Great to see the commitment to perfection does not go un noticed.
@@marcusflack1523 well I just added a fourth 👑 to my original comment in recognition, dude. Stellar work, sir
@@marcusflack1523 lucky they gave you a two week window 😂
@@marcusflack1523 it doesn’t !
Way too much changing of frame...he worked hard for nothing that is bugging most people eyes always changing the image
This isn’t just my favorite watch podcast but it now tops the list of my favorite podcasts period. The production quality is awesome and the chemistry between you guys is on point. I’m in the same boat as Andrew as the only thing Rolex has out there that really intrigues me is the white gold yacht master on the oyster flex. That is something I’ve been wanting to get since it came out.
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Such a great conversation! Awesome chemistry between the three (four to include Marcus) of you! Thank you for making me smile on Sunday!
It’s our pleasure Matthew. Bloody great to be working on this project.
You guys are absolutely killing it with this channel/podcast. Wonderfully informative and entertaining to say the least. Thank you for what you do
"They’re not overplayed and they’re proper tools" - Is this where Tudor now has so much appeal as well? As a whole brand, they really seem to nail that space, without the hype and with the accessibility to customers.
Perfectly on point. Agreed.
Completely agree… especially their latest releases
That was whole original point of Tudor since its founding in 1926 by old Hans himself, but everyone now thinks they discovered this point!
I absolutely love the idea of About Effing Time. It has become my favorite video to watch. Its interesting, its chaotic, its hilarious, its weird and it feels like hanging with good friends that are deeply into watches. I think this is the trick that you seem like the crazy (in a good way) watch obsessed mates every horological enthusiast should have :)
Bloody great encouragement Sebastian. We are super pumped to be on this ride, and its even better knowing like people like yourselves are getting a real kick out of it.
The internet can be a savage place, it’s brilliant to have people like you in our corner SG 🤌🏼🤌🏼
Thanks guys. Great discussion. The b/w therapy intro was brilliant. You could do 5 minute therapy sessions for every brand.
I watch most of the watch related UA-cam channels out there and just ran into your channel, this is hands down the best watch podcast I have seen so far. The quality of the content, the relevant and smart analysis, genuine discussion and great production. Keep up the good work, you guys should be in the top 3 in terms of views and subscribers.
We’ve just started and comments like this get shared among the team to keep us fired up, thank you sincerely - Andrew
Awesome show lads! What utterly gets me are the stories from George! I love that he opens up and tells us these moments… we get to see his passion and soul. Would love to sit and drink coffee (or gin)with the three of you! Cheers from Canada!
You should do a Tudor episode where you talk about the crowd pleasing stuff they produce, and how they are trend watches for watch people - as Adrian often hints at. Loved this vid!
Great banter on a great content as always! I appreciate the fact that you didn't use Rolex as a clickbait but had a genuine love/hate therapy session. Well done guys!
Yep, that was def the aim and the outcome for sure. I too really like rolex however dont own one yet. But you never know one day.
Best episode until now. Nice intro and that movement of the tank which George brought to the gun fight was just beautiful!
Thank you kindly
This is by far the best watch content on the internet today! Love the rapport and commentary.
Ohhhhh thanks Kareem. Comments like this fuel our fire.
I watched Nico’s watch roundtable with George and Andrew the Voice yesterday and this one today. What comes through clearly in this format is the love, passion, and especially the sincerity that everyone has about watches. Of course, taking the piss out of each other makes these shows truly entertaining! You’re like the Blue Collar Comedy Tour for watches. You guys should do a ComicCon-like panel at the next Watches and Wonders. That is one show I’d fly anywhere to attend!
Oh yeah, George, I had the same experience with my first born and spent 3 months in the NICU. It makes you rethink everything. I’m very happy to hear you chose quality of life.
Ira.....I think that is one suggestion that HAS TO HAPPEN. I def think it would be a great idea to do that at Watches and Wonders for sure. Thanks for your thoughts
Yes same!
It’s just a pleasure seeing you guys there. Super entertaining and informative for those who are really into watches. Keep on rocking ✌🏻
We just turned up the music and we are rocking!!!
I find myself smiling the entire way through each episode. Well done!
I also smile as i edit all these episodes. Its super fun and super informative. Thanks for the comment. Means a lot.
These conversations are therapy for me. I suspect my boss collects watches, but I really don't have anyone to talk to about them so this is the next best thing. Learn a lot too.
Fantastic to hear sebastien. Super glad to hear that it hits the spot.
Such a brilliant cold open 🙌🏻 we are all thinking the same things 🤣 Such great content, editing and production quality happening with this show. PLEASE PLEASE keep it going, I will be here with you all the way to Ep.100 & beyond 👊🏻
Appreciate ya!
Arguably the most entertaining watch YT channel regarding watches. Informative, entertaining and just plain FUN. Keep up the great work Lads.
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Great episode, probably your best yet. Good topic, well organized and some really good personal stories. Loved it. Now let’s talk some Grand Seiko fellas.
Great podcast! Looking forward to next episodes🍻
Very cool background story from George. Tag was my gateway drug into the watch world years ago, I still have those first two in my collection. Great episode guys.
Yeah George keeps surprising us every day also. Great to see it hit your button Robert.
Brilliant episode! George’s candid story was incredibly moving. Bravo chaps
Appreciate you Morgan 🙌
Love the shows. You guys bring a great atmosphere to the watch world.
George opening the Radiomir case back and reveiling the Rolex Movement - talking about a mic drop move 🥵😍 - fantastic episode 👍🏻
Bam 💥
Beautiful story George. You are a man of great integrity. Feeling loved and supported even at great monetary lose is priceless.
Amen -Andrew
Love to see more of this kind in the future, just real talk about the watch and the history behind it. Exactly what I’m looking for.
You guys are on to something here!
The balance between the three of you is on point, I love the distinctly different voices, camera angles and editing too. Banger first season, and you can tell it's not by accident! Hope you're all committed to sticking it out for a while to see it grow 🤟
Thanks so much mate. And we’re going all in on this 🙌🏻
You got it KJH, not to be cliched but when it’s this fucking fun to ‘work’ it truly is a pleasure, thank you - Andrew
@@AboutEffingTime Thanks for the content, awesome stuff!
@@Timeandtidewatches For sure, I bet you guys could be doing this down at the pub for nothing! But maybe they wouldn’t have the world’s best gin yet :)
G’day from back in Oz, KJ
The guy on the right sounds just like young Joseph jostar
I finally got to the BYOI segment and you guys brought Fears! Yes!!! I’ve been hoping Nicholas would get noticed more. His attention to the tiniest details is impeccable. My Brunswick Salmon always makes me smile; it’s a joy to wind every morning. :-) As I wrote before, the watchmaker’s personality has become a major selling point for me. Now to find the right Bamford GMT for me…
I agree with others; probably the best technical /visual presentation yet. Good topic and some interesting experiences and insights shared. Well done.
Thanks for watching Mitch. Good times ahead.
Re: Explorer II, I never looked into one once they went 42mm. Having finally tried one on I have to say it wears really well and added it to the list with the AD. Great watch.
Another Rolex that despite the recent hype didn’t get as much prior to the new colors, the Oyster Perpetual is a great watch. Have the last gen olive dial 34mm and it’s fantastic. Adrian did a video on someone’s white dial 34mm a few years back and that looks fantastic too.
Just saw this... a little late to the party... I would like to add that I have a Rolex Sea-Dweller and used it for 16 years as a professional diver in the oil fields of Nigeria and the North Sea. It rarely left my wrist and was with me through many bell runs down to depths exceeding 800 feet in some cases... what I can say is it did what it was meant to do, and did it exceptionally well. From 1988 to 2003 it was with me through thick and thin. My personal take on this is not that perhaps so many people have a certain model, but more about what that model means for them.
Where is it now?
Best episode so far. Great stuff!
Agree with many on here, best channel I watch by far. Congrats Gents. Love the promotion of independent brands.
Yes and we love giving the space to the Indy brands. So good to be able to give back to the industry.
The problem with the Rolex brand is too many people have them. You go to dinner with friends and all the men have a Submariner !
Friends with teenagers and a degree of wealth, spoil their children on their 18 and 21st birthdays with Rolex watches.
They used to be a luxury brand to aspire too. When your friend’s teenage children wear them and have never worked, suddenly the shine disappears !
That means you look elsewhere . . . . . You want to wear something more individual. Have to say this is where Bamford comes into play ! But i’ve just bought a beautiful Tissot 2000 and a Bamford Tag RUF. Much more exciting !
My dad bought a Pepsi 1675 in 1977 while flying F-4s TDY in Germany. Mom flipped out that he spent $500 on a watch. When he retired from United Airlines in 2015 he was still wearing it and it had been, literally, around the world.
Was your dad AF or Navy? My uncle was a phantom pilot in Nam such a cool airframe. The old timers in the military was what got me into watches.
This was much needed. Great episode gents! I've been collecting for a long time and it still falls back to Rolex every time. It took me 4.5 years and several ADs across many states to finally land my Batman, it truly was a journey!
For that person out there that thinks it won't happen, keep at it. I lost hope many times, bought 3 watches from other brands during the time I was waiting but nothing scratched the itch. And even now that I have my BLNR, I want the Explorer II Polar and LV Sub to add to the collection. Rolex makes some really cool watches. I definitely want another Omega and Panerai Submersible as well, but Rolex is still crushing it. This is definitely more an illness than a hobby. 🤦🏾♂️
Relatable content !
When I first got into high end watches about seven or so years ago, I definitely liked Rolex but avoided it because I thought it was too “blingy” based on the polished bits of the watches. I wanted the previous gen models, from the 90s and 00s instead. That said I didn’t feel like paying current MSRP for those at the time when I could get a new one. So I got my Reverso, a Geophysic, my Skipper and some Speedmasters. Then I decided I actually liked current Rolex design aesthetics and am glad I did. I still like the prior generation and vintage stuff, but current gens are great and I love my watches. I keep passing on other watches waiting for my AD to deliver something else from the list. That said, if I didn’t have an AD that delivered I’d definitely be looking at other things, specifically Cartier. I wouldn’t pay over MSRP for a Rolex unless it was a discontinued reference and even though I’d only go slightly over assuming I really wanted it.
Man, I just love the concept of AET and the chemistry between you guys. Just blabbering about watches and personal stuff for 45 minutes, without getting boring for just one second... mates, I'm effing hooked.
Effing love to hear it
@@AboutEffingTime Off-topic, but there was an episode where George was talking about the Heuer (not Rolex) Daytona, but I can't seem to find it. Do you know which one?
Got my Polar Explorer II from the AD in November. It did something I never thought would happen...it took over the title of 'my favorite watch in my collection' from my Seamaster 300M.
George's story at the end brought such good closure to the episode
Appreciate this comment so much - we feel exactly the same. He's brave enough to be vulnerable - that's strength ✊
As a very proud owner of a Fears, I can't sing their praises high enough. They're just excellent. I've worn mine - an Archival 1930 Small Seconds - on several life occasions because it's the watch I feel the very most at home in. I love it, and it feels right. I've got a moderate collection, and I don't wear my Fears everyday. But no matter the watch I'm enjoying, I'll think about the Fears. I'll think about my love for watches. And its a real grounding point for me in the watch world now. It's the first watch I've ever agonized over. And the service, the quality, the sense that this is a business that acts with the weigh of 175 years of history - It's all *really* there. You feel it, from the box it arrives in with an exquisitely hand-tied bow and lovely unique deep blue stain, to the little documentations with it that you really could just own that one watch - or maybe it an another fears - for most of the rest of your life.
On the Archival specifically:
There are 175. Of those 136 are two-hand models with a new old-stock movement from the 1960s (I believe); There are 39 of the Small-Seconds, which house a movement from the mid-30s.
The series is numbered individually on the case back from 1846 - the year of first founding - to 2021 - the 175th anniversary.
Numbers 1846-1976 and 2016-2021 are the two hand model, representing the active years. Numbers 1977-2015 are the small seconds, in recognition of the 39 years of dormancy.
Number 1846 has been provided to the collection of the Bristol Museum, and I believe one or two others were retained by Fears to commemorate their history in their collection, meaning ~172 are available for private ownership. All 39 small seconds are either sold or otherwise accounted for. A number of two-hand models are available from retail.
Best episode yet. Hands down hands up.
Great show gentlemen. I love the Omega wall clock. Where did you get it?
Really appreciating the balance you three bring to each other. Adrian feels very much the "everyman" who is closest to my stances on things (even when he's "Captain Boring"), Andrew seems like an ivory tower of watch journalism, and George represents Tag Heuer. Just kidding, he's that interesting fringe that is past a lot of the standard stuff and interested in weird and new things. You guys are really great!
New to the podcast and new to loving watches. Great show!
Interesting chart.
Lets see where Tudor and Omega will be in 2022.
Both have done some good stuff lately thus would be interesting to see the updated ranking.
.. No one mentioned that Nicholas from Fears once worked for ROLEX 😁
Great episode guys!!😎👍👍
Is that right?!?!?! Now that is interesting.
Always a pleasure fellas. Be well, stay healthy, and I'll be looking forward to the next one. Cheers...
Great to have you with us Tara!
"Seeking validation as a human" - about effing time someone said that. The love hate relationship with Rolex is so well expressed here. Best effing watch content on UA-cam. Cheers from Singapore.
Appreciate you Sohill
Excellent episode guys 👏
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Got to be one of the best watch podcast out there.
Thank you Mr Bamford for adopting the (now contrarian) view that Panerai has some interesting pieces in its back catalogue. I was however hoping that the popular hate for Panerai would continue a while longer, so I could pick up a PAM360 for less than £12k.
Awesome content! Keep them coming! Would love to hear an episode of your ‘Justifiables’ haha! :)
I’m drawn to AET for the same reasons why Adrian loves explorers - “They’re not overplayed and they’re proper tools”
Hahahahahahaha. BEST COMMENT!
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I agree. The Explorer 2 is the best Rolex I've owned and seen anywhere for that matter. It has the biggest, clearest and most legible dial for starters. Sits flat and comfortably on the wrist. The orange GMt hand gives it that slight flare that others don't have. It's be far the best. Now in the market for the latest 225670
Good talk today. I bought a 5 digit gmt partly because they are still a bit more unique. A modern Rolex will always look exactly the same as someone elses
Great to see the shoutout to Fears. They're beautiful watches and deserve more attention.
Hi ! Great videos. Where do you get the wall clocks !!??
Love the banter. I am in the "enjoying Rolex" stage - recently got my first 2 Rolexes from an AD who has taken a liking to me. A Datejust last October and a Starbucks in June. They are overhyped and overpriced, but also the 2 best watches I've owned (and I've owned a lot of watches). I'd equate Rolex with Mercedes Benz - most people can not afford one but almost everyone on the planet knows what a Rolex is and what it stands for. To the non-watch enthusiast (99% of the world's population), they are a symbol of accomplishment, success and status.
How you guys feel about Rolex is the same feeling I get after I pine for any watch for several months or more and then finally get one. There is always more dopamine released when I finally pull the trigger on a watch than how I feel about it a month later.
The best new horological buddy hangout channel out there.
We got your back Julian. We promise.
great show guys cheers
Where am I when it comes to Rolex? I’m in the ‘yet to experience Rolex’, but probably never will. The mantra ‘your best watch is the one you can afford’ rings so true with me. I most definitely won’t be able to afford one, either new or grey market. And if I could find a vintage Rolex in my price range, I could never afford the upkeep costs.
…and I am honestly OK with it.
People can hate Rolex, but they CANNOT be denied. The Rolex brand has done more for the credibility of mechanical watches and their current, highly desirable status than every other brand combined. Are they the best watchmaker? Not even close. Are they the most recognizable globally? BY A MILLION MILES.
I bought my humble Oyster perpetual date 34 15200 in 2004 before this new order of things and I will never part with it.
The way I look at Rolex today is a combination of all the elements of superior watchmaking, history, luxuary, affordability, marketing, investment potential without actually topping the charts in any of the categories.
There are Other brands that may topple them in or or more, but there is none that tops them in all the categories
Top notch. A true heavy weight channel in the watch world. Keep it up guys.
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Amazing episode! Total validation for me. I don‘t have a Rolex, (can‘t afford it atm anyway) never wanted one at first, saw the Explorer II, loved it to bits beeing a proper sturdy tool watch. Only other one i really love is the Yachtmaster 42, but not attainable in any way sadly.
well you never know Flo X. Our watch journeys have a start middle and end. And you never know where you will end!. Thanks for watching!
This is nuts, I remember when you could walk in off the street and buy a Rolex. Buying a Rolex is a once in a lifetime experience for many people, notable birthdays etc.
bullshit. Rolex is not that hard to get from an AD. You obviously just rub people up the wrong way.
liked the vide just for the intro alone keep them coming
Great episode! As a dad, I really connected with George's story. And as a man, just wanna aspire to look as good as Andrew did in that t-shirt 😃 And hopefully, one day, my local AD calls me about the Polar Explorer II
Trifecta 💥 George’s story floored Adrian and I. Love the guy we do.
BYOI - just picked up a Bruvik Fjord N2.0 Sognefjorden in Oslo. What a watch!!!
Thankfully I've never been hung up with the Rolex brand. They've mostly reminded me of old men. With all of their offerings, my favorite is still the Explorer.
Love your show, so we'll done and thought out. Also purchased some four pillars and sold my only Rolex 😀 winning 👌 keep up the honestly lads. Gary from the Sunshine coast
Appreciate ya!
I'm right there with Adrian. I have this inner talk where I caution myself not to jump into the sea and wrap my arms around the first and biggest creature I see, which in this case is Rolex. If tuna is the chicken of the sea then Rolex is the chicken of the watches. I wish it wasn't but the 28% AND the overall presence doesn't leave much choice. So it's very inevitable and unavoidable to have them on the path. And it's a good gateway drug into the more sophisticated side of watch collecting. So in that sense I think I have to thank them. Good episode by the way. Would have been nice to see what exact era of watch collecting you guys are in now, personally.
Favorite Chanel! Cheers 🥃
I did like 999 and this was for 1k likes. Great episode 👍
1000 baby!!!! you did it. Thanks for the click
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I had no interest in Rolex at all for such a long time. Then I wanted a Sub, then I wanted an ExpII, then a Daytona. The reality is I'm not dropping the cash needed to get one at any point likely...unless it's a Pepsi GMT 😄
Adrian nailed it. At the grey market prices, my money is going on something better and a true £10-15k watch. Rolex, as much as the hype makes everyone think they are, just aren't worth the grey market prices.
Love it guys as always..... Bamford say tired of seeing all these people around me wearing Daytonas. Brother you are not running in the same circles as most people my friend. Keep making great video's gentlemen.
Is this show going to be the BEST EVER watch show??? I think it is. I mean even the hilarious Rolex thoughts intro is on another level, 5 minutes in, I'm hooked 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Glad you had as much fun watching this bit of creativity as we did making it. Thanks for the comment Sam. Means a lot.
Outstanding episode gents!
Awesome job 🤙🏻
I've already commented on the insta but I thought I would come over here for the algorithm. I am very much in line with Adrian on this one, my love for rolex is huge... As a tool, and a good one at that. I have an Explorer 1 and that's it at the moment, I will eventually be looking for a milgauss and an explorer 2. But I'm in no rush and that's where I will stop, I have no desire to wait years for a sub or a daytona. I'll save my money and wait years for a VC Overseas instead haha, but at least I will have something a little more unique than the next guy.
Firstly I love this format. You guys all have really distinctive and interesting perspectives and personalities. I'm biased to favor Adrian as I have been a long time Barks and Jack subscriber. Ok enough fluff. Rolex. I started my love affair in 1986 with my first purchase of a Submariner I will never sell. I know you guys are going to hate me but I can pretty much buy any model I want after 30 years of purchase history and Never selling. My AD experience is exemplary as it damn well should be! Look, we are talking about a Luxury product and all that encompasses. Sorry if this is too elitist but this the reality of the game. In the words of Groucho Marx: " I would never join a club that would accept me as a member."
awesome show. love it
Cheers Robert 🙌
Beautiful story, George. Never been a fan of Tag Heuer but am now.
My question here is, are tudor sales in those Rolex numbers of 28,8 % included ? Thanks. Greetings Florian. Keep going with AET !
Favourite podcast so bloody good
I really enjoyed this video and I do agree with your point here. I got into Rolex back in the 80s when the hype wasn’t anything really. Today is a totally different story and honestly it has changed my perspective on Rolex. Sure it is a great brand and they make great watches however the hype has totally ruined the experience. It has moved me to Tudor and omega and honestly some of these new micro brands are much cooler to wear and for less money.
Who wants to wait 5 years for something to find out it isn’t cool lol
Awesome video
Hmmm I actually feel the Explorer II is a special watch. Amazing history, amazing design. It’s my favourite out of the entire Rolex line-up. It’s the underdog.
I agree. I loathe Rolex now but a white dial Explorer is the ultimate beater watch. Bar none. Boring but crisp. Like a cold glass of water on a hot day of climbing.
The 40 mm Explorer ll is a fantastic watch and an iconic design. Unfortunately Rolex ruined the model with the bloated, cartoonish design of the 42 mm version.
Would love to see an update on how the patina is looking on Andrew’s Tudor BB58 bronze.
Part of the lure is the hunt, the story about how you found your Rolex, the price you bargained etc. Furthermore, I came into watches looking for the absolute best value for function & art, Rolex sits perfectly between form, function, craftmanship, and value (at list) before you get into haute horology (in my opinion).
Number 4 is a legend... Passion is infectious and doing fantastic things
Superb as always
Yeah that Monaco, Bamf edition, is amazing! V2 please? Ahaha id legit love to get one.
Sooooo freaking stealthy. Right!
I owned a few modern sport Rolex and nothing will deter my love or desire for this brand . They are the industry leaders who makes functional and purposeful watches , that are timeless
Wow, I watched a couple of episodes and didn't know this was George as in George *Bamford* until he brought out the Tag
Please have Bamford do a FULL episode on his Heuers. What bangers. I mean seriously how can you even be into Rolex after owning a Daytona Heuer. I think he's just pretending to like Rolex at this point.
Ah, he's not even doing that. I describe him as 'post Rolex' and he basically goes, yep, yup, that me 😂
The white Explorer ll from around 2010 has a private sale price around the retalil price or perhaps 20 % higher. Perhaps 100 % over on Grey marked dealers. However about 15 - 20 % discount of them is now a reality at the Grey marked dealers. There are so many many for sale now. There are so many Rolex modles for sale nomatter what model you choose, but to own one is much much more rarer. Because it is hard to get them for retail. I do agree that the quality means less than what peoples reation is to people who owns a Rolex. I mean. I would say Omegas now have the same quality and simple is much easyer to get to a normal to retail or less.