I’ve worked at UPS. When it comes to heavier items…. The more hubs it goes through, the bigger chance its going to get damaged. Changing one hub means it gets loaded and unloaded 4 times…Also bulk items like that get tossed around with other bulk items on a conveyer belt just like dice in a Yahtzee cup.
packing peanuts are excellent padding for some things and are absolutely needed. However, using them to protect a CRT is the height of monumental stupidity. The point here is you dont bring a knife to a gunfight. Understand your tools before using them.
The problem with eBay sellers is they're either stupid or don't care when it comes to packaging stuff. I bought some laptop chargers I needed recently and they were just loosely bouncing around inside of a box with a little bit of bubble wrap. Of course since they were USB-C chargers the tips got damaged from getting banged up. I would never buy anything rare or fragile on eBay anymore. I stopped buying audio gear online because I got tired of it arriving damaged. You're only hope of getting something in one piece from an amateur seller is paying them to take it to the UPS store. But even then they do some sketchy stuff.
My 14M2U from eBay definitely got a little cracked. I unfortunately wasn’t able to get it returned, but I’m hoping to get it restored in the future sometime. Now I’m just focused on getting a BVM 20F1U from your server & I’m extremely glad that you made uship guides since it seems everyone in your server is aware of them. At this point I really don’t have the money for taking chances with eBay so if I get anymore monitors I’ll definitely look in your server. Thanks for showing off your eBay experience & I’m hyped to see that PVM repair soon 👍
What I do (whenever I buy sets from ebay), I arrange for a company like Craters and Freighters to pick up the TV from the seller. Next, they place the TV into a crate for safety. Lastly they freight the TV create to my residence intact. It will cost more than the set. But at least you'll have the piece of mind that it will not come to you damage. I say when buying from ebay, do not allow the seller to mail the TV. Have a firm like Craters and Freighters pick up the TV and have it packaged and delivered to you . This way you know that the TV will be exactly as it left the owner...
This hurts to watch. When I used to sell CRTs on ebay, everything was packaged to perfection. No joke, buyers would send me pictures of the received monitor because they were HAPPY not furious. Nowadays though I just keep all the CRTs for myself.
@@genericuser456-dm4wi I'm not claiming any of this to be best-practice and I never shipped any CRT 27" or larger... but If I had the original box and packing materials: - I would first wrap the CRT in a thin layer of bubble wrap - pack it in the original box/styrofoam - fill the any air-gaps in the box snugly with more bubble wrap (NEVER peanuts) - put the original box inside another box - fill any gaps between the boxes with additional bubble wrap, take pictures, ship insured If I didn't have the original packing materials: - I would first remove any detachable monitor stand - wrap in the CRT TIGHTLY in a massive amount of bubble wrap enough that there's around 4-6 inches of wrap on every side (especially the corners) - line the box with flat pieces of styrofoam - bubble wrap the stand and any other hard accessories individually - place everything in the box and fill in all gaps snugly with bubble wrap (NEVER peanuts). - it's imperative everything is packed tightly enough that nothing in the box can move at all and that no CRT surface or corner is anywhere near the box wall - now double-box it, fill in the gaps with more bubble wrap or styro, take pictures, ship insured. Whatever you choose to do, you should be confident the boxed CRT can survive being dropped off a house before you ship it.
Getting a sub-$200 shipped, 70 kHz shitbox that's not more than 17", 4:3, and supports native 1600x1200 color resolution is the best I can hope for when it comes to future CRT acquisitions.
The pricing of PVMs is ridiculous, shipping is ridiculous. In Europe the cheapest PVM is around 400 to 500 euro. I wish i could get one for less than 200 euro. A man can only dream.
I bought a KV-1311CR on ebay, the seller didn't have a box big enough so he made one out of lesser boxes and lots of tape, packing material was just leftover cardboard and newspaper. Most destroyed box I've ever seen delivered, but somehow the TV was completely unscathed.
I went through a year or so of looking, but finally found one local several years back. It turned out the guy had a few more as well, that he hadn't posted yet as well.
For this reaso I no longer buy or sell CRT's for shipping, it's the carriers fault just as often as the sellers I find, they chuck them around, kick them and abuse them in the depots. I only now do collection only.
I haven't bothered with buying any Crts online in the past it was either someone felt to give away theirs OR have some good and decent ones at second hand stores
Im surprised it took you that long to realize how crappy the CRT market is now on Ebay. Most of it is overpriced junk and shipping is done by a toddler.
Just bought one on Ebay but it was local pickup. Powered it on and had a pink spot on left corner of the screen, which was not visible in pics on the listing. Degaussing wand didn't resolve it. Fortunately, seller reluctantly gave me a refund, but did not want the tv back. Trying FB marketplace now, but most are porch pickups and sellers do not want to send pics of the screen so I can view the image quality. I read somewhere some companies sell CRTs new.
Steve TITLES the vidja: Im Done buying CRAP CRTs on eBay! Steve 13min35seconds later: Im gonna keep on buying Sony PVMs on eBay" I see a BRIGHT future for you in politics, Steve! 😂😂😂
Facebook marketplace seems easier, you take care of the transport/pickup yourself and you can bring a game console to test it out yourself before squaring away the deal - way less options though to be fair.
Facebook Marketplace can be frustrating especially when you get sellers who don't even respond to your messages like don't you want someone to take this off your hands?
Worst possible time for this video to come out. I'm currently waiting on a PVM to come in from ebay and it is currently in transit via UPS ground. So thanks for that anxiety I didn't know I needed in my life lol 💀
@@Color-Theory It arrived fine to his place across the country. Not bad for a 80 pound 20 inch. Just costed like 80 bucks in materials lol + 180 to ship.
My IBM p260 died when i decided to use it for modern gaming. Lost picture then a faint/medium pitch hiss. No smoke notbing. Sadly i have no interest in paying 600+ for a monitor especially at risk of poor packaging. Downside is....20-22" monitors are very hard to find and i dont wanna plug my dell 1600HS in and risk it diying too. (Im hopefully gonna fix it or find a shop that can)
I agree. No matter how well you packed, there are still chances getting damaged. I used to have a computer packed in factory box with styrofoam surrounded 4 sides but still got damaged (chassis deformed). When the box dropped on ground on its corners, nothing will survive. Shipping something like this is just gambling. And please remember, you't better try to avoid Fedex and USPS, UPS is way safer.
I was fixing my CRT yesterday aligning the color rings and suddendly my monitor went dark 😭 it workss but the video is just dark Idk what to do cause it was working perfectly yesterday! It’s a Toshiba from 1987
Let me provide a very standard and overly used description of a CRT TV from an eBay seller: “Tested. Working. No Remote” …. now doesnt that just fill you over the top with confidence in the product you are about to pour $400-$500 into? Maybe a little more effort on the descriptions would be nice?
A good part of this is the sender, but the other part if the courier. If the courier uses your package as football and the contents is something like a CRT, then odds are it's going to break. Senders and buyers should not cheap out and go with the lowest bidder when it comes to courier. Even then, stil no complete guarantee, of course. That being said, not packaging something up appropriately is deeply lazy and stupid - even more so if the seller didn't insure it.
I've also been burned by FedEx dropping a CRT right at my doorstep. Thankfully only minimal damage to the bottom corner of the bezel...tube ended up undamaged. I even have video footage of the driver dropping it then looking at my Ring camera. Jerk.
I sell a reasonable amount on eBay, including VCRs, Tape decks, etc., and the quality of packaging I've seen you get CRTs in is a disgrace. How do these moron sellers think the items are being shipped - personally chauffeured across the US on a velvet cushion?
Damn, that is a shame to see such nice devices get damaged due to an idiot's lazy packaging job. I just can't understand it either. The sellers are wasting their own money and time by not doing a proper job packing stuff. I sell on eBay frequently, and all expensive items (especially electronics) are wrapped in bubble wrap SEVERAL times over, and packaged in boxes that actually fit the item. A lot of people will tell newbies they can use anything to pad the rest of the box (like newspaper, grocery bags, even tissue paper) - NOPE. All of that stuff (and even packing peanuts, despite their name) are way too thin and flimsy, and won't actually hold the item in place when the box is being jostled on a truck or thrown across a room. Bubble wrap and cardboard boxes are not expensive, especially when it comes to $400+ items. Sorry about the rant, this stuff just infuriates me, lol. I was actually thinking about getting a bigger CRT sometime, but now I'm very wary of buying one off of eBay. I also once had a limited edition PS2 shipped to me in a Subway box w/ sandwich wrapping paper, no bubble wrap whatsoever. Somehow it was perfectly fine, but that still irked me.
Every single CRT I have tried to buy on EBAY has arrived damaged. Every single one. And most of them were packed quite well too. The shipping companies just don't give a damn. & good luck trying to get your money back even if you purchase insurance. They will do everything they can to deny your claim. It's a total scam job & absolutely criminal. A class action lawsuit should be in place for this...
Never buy insurance from your carriers. Instead, using courier's packing service. One time, I paid Fedex to pack and ship a 30 inch CRT monitor, the monitor arrived safely. I was actually regretted to use Fedex's packing service because I watched them doing it entire time and their job was actually very poor. I guess maybe their employees may pay more attention and be more careful if they see their own packages? I don't know.
@@changlongnan I'm not sure I follow... you're saying to use their packing service or no? Sounds like it didn't go well so not sure I understand what ur saying.
one and only time i bought a CRT off ebay it was packed pretty well but it had some serious audio issues and geometry issues so bad the image looked bowed in the middle. shame really because the CRT itself was razor sharp. I dont have the skill to fix it so i sold it to a buddy who didnt mind the problems.
I'm sick of sellers charging an arm and a leg for shipping and using junk to pack it.
Yeah, bunch of lazy scalpers on eBay!
I’ve worked at UPS. When it comes to heavier items…. The more hubs it goes through, the bigger chance its going to get damaged. Changing one hub means it gets loaded and unloaded 4 times…Also bulk items like that get tossed around with other bulk items on a conveyer belt just like dice in a Yahtzee cup.
That's why I take my things to the UPS Store to be shipped. They know how to pack things so they won't get damaged or ruined while in transit.
I had a 20inch pvm shipped from USA Kentucky to Sydney Australia, arrived in perfect condition , it’s a shame seeing these CRTs get destroyed
how much was postage on that? 20" is really pushing the boundary on damage
Can we all agree packing peanuts should no longer exist?
I second that motion!
There is nothing wrong with packing peanuts. The problem is most people aren't smart enough to know they are void fill not a protectant.
packing peanuts are excellent padding for some things and are absolutely needed. However, using them to protect a CRT is the height of monumental stupidity.
The point here is you dont bring a knife to a gunfight. Understand your tools before using them.
I hate packing peanuts...so messy
Yes definitely agree
The problem with eBay sellers is they're either stupid or don't care when it comes to packaging stuff. I bought some laptop chargers I needed recently and they were just loosely bouncing around inside of a box with a little bit of bubble wrap. Of course since they were USB-C chargers the tips got damaged from getting banged up. I would never buy anything rare or fragile on eBay anymore. I stopped buying audio gear online because I got tired of it arriving damaged. You're only hope of getting something in one piece from an amateur seller is paying them to take it to the UPS store. But even then they do some sketchy stuff.
My 14M2U from eBay definitely got a little cracked. I unfortunately wasn’t able to get it returned, but I’m hoping to get it restored in the future sometime. Now I’m just focused on getting a BVM 20F1U from your server & I’m extremely glad that you made uship guides since it seems everyone in your server is aware of them. At this point I really don’t have the money for taking chances with eBay so if I get anymore monitors I’ll definitely look in your server. Thanks for showing off your eBay experience & I’m hyped to see that PVM repair soon 👍
How were you not able to get it returned? eBay is known for siding with the buyer way more often than not.
@@dominicrinaldi8241 The seller never responded back. I probably could’ve tried something else, I don’t think I really tried that hard
What I do (whenever I buy sets from ebay), I arrange for a company like Craters and Freighters to pick up the TV from the seller. Next, they place the TV into a crate for safety. Lastly they freight the TV create to my residence intact. It will cost more than the set. But at least you'll have the piece of mind that it will not come to you damage. I say when buying from ebay, do not allow the seller to mail the TV. Have a firm like Craters and Freighters pick up the TV and have it packaged and delivered to you . This way you know that the TV will be exactly as it left the owner...
This hurts to watch. When I used to sell CRTs on ebay, everything was packaged to perfection. No joke, buyers would send me pictures of the received monitor because they were HAPPY not furious. Nowadays though I just keep all the CRTs for myself.
how did you pack them? i'm planning to sell a CRT myself soon
@@genericuser456-dm4wi I'm not claiming any of this to be best-practice and I never shipped any CRT 27" or larger... but If I had the original box and packing materials:
- I would first wrap the CRT in a thin layer of bubble wrap
- pack it in the original box/styrofoam
- fill the any air-gaps in the box snugly with more bubble wrap (NEVER peanuts)
- put the original box inside another box
- fill any gaps between the boxes with additional bubble wrap, take pictures, ship insured
If I didn't have the original packing materials:
- I would first remove any detachable monitor stand
- wrap in the CRT TIGHTLY in a massive amount of bubble wrap enough that there's around 4-6 inches of wrap on every side (especially the corners)
- line the box with flat pieces of styrofoam
- bubble wrap the stand and any other hard accessories individually
- place everything in the box and fill in all gaps snugly with bubble wrap (NEVER peanuts).
- it's imperative everything is packed tightly enough that nothing in the box can move at all and that no CRT surface or corner is anywhere near the box wall
- now double-box it, fill in the gaps with more bubble wrap or styro, take pictures, ship insured.
Whatever you choose to do, you should be confident the boxed CRT can survive being dropped off a house before you ship it.
I posted a lengthy reply to you but it doesn't look like it showed up. YT hates me?
Getting a sub-$200 shipped, 70 kHz shitbox that's not more than 17", 4:3, and supports native 1600x1200 color resolution is the best I can hope for when it comes to future CRT acquisitions.
That buzzle was really bested
Thank you for showing the damage done in shipping.
The pricing of PVMs is ridiculous, shipping is ridiculous. In Europe the cheapest PVM is around 400 to 500 euro. I wish i could get one for less than 200 euro. A man can only dream.
Remember the UPS eBay shipping disaster video?
A single layer of bubble wrap. He went above and beyond.
I bought a KV-1311CR on ebay, the seller didn't have a box big enough so he made one out of lesser boxes and lots of tape, packing material was just leftover cardboard and newspaper. Most destroyed box I've ever seen delivered, but somehow the TV was completely unscathed.
I’ve seen some sell CRTs on eBay but do collection in person only. And I can understand why.
That was great! Thanks for making the video! :D
I went through a year or so of looking, but finally found one local several years back. It turned out the guy had a few more as well, that he hadn't posted yet as well.
$500 for a 14M4U? Geez, prices sure have gone up. I remember getting a good quality, local 14L5 + AV cart for $450 in 2019.
Whats the return process like? do you ship the CRT back to the seller?
For this reaso I no longer buy or sell CRT's for shipping, it's the carriers fault just as often as the sellers I find, they chuck them around, kick them and abuse them in the depots. I only now do collection only.
Please do a video about fixing this 13 inch monitor you showed last.
I never have a broken crt. I wrap in minimum 5 inches of bubblewrap each side mostly more depending on weight of the crt
I haven't bothered with buying any Crts online in the past it was either someone felt to give away theirs OR have some good and decent ones at second hand stores
Im surprised it took you that long to realize how crappy the CRT market is now on Ebay. Most of it is overpriced junk and shipping is done by a toddler.
Just bought one on Ebay but it was local pickup. Powered it on and had a pink spot on left corner of the screen, which was not visible in pics on the listing.
Degaussing wand didn't resolve it.
Fortunately, seller reluctantly gave me a refund, but did not want the tv back.
Trying FB marketplace now, but most are porch pickups and sellers do not want to send pics of the screen so I can view the image quality.
I read somewhere some companies sell CRTs new.
Steve TITLES the vidja: Im Done buying CRAP CRTs on eBay!
Steve 13min35seconds later: Im gonna keep on buying Sony PVMs on eBay"
I see a BRIGHT future for you in politics, Steve!
😂😂😂
That first box looks like you ONLY got foam packing peanuts
Packing peanuts really need to go away. Seen so many rare decks get destroyed due to lazy packing with packing peanuts.
Facebook marketplace seems easier, you take care of the transport/pickup yourself and you can bring a game console to test it out yourself before squaring away the deal - way less options though to be fair.
And the prices are semi cheaper from what I've seen.
Facebook Marketplace can be frustrating especially when you get sellers who don't even respond to your messages like don't you want someone to take this off your hands?
uhaul sells double walled durable electronics boxes for like $10. Its just laziness to use those cheap walmart boxes
Do you have any videos about how to best package a TV for shipping?
I got lucky with mine thank god
Did you guys see the Sony BVM D32E1WE posted for 12k lucky its only local pick up
Worst possible time for this video to come out. I'm currently waiting on a PVM to come in from ebay and it is currently in transit via UPS ground. So thanks for that anxiety I didn't know I needed in my life lol 💀
Same lol
@@Tacotrucktodd Just got mine in and it was packaged well. Hope the same for you. ：）
@@Color-Theory It arrived fine to his place across the country. Not bad for a 80 pound 20 inch. Just costed like 80 bucks in materials lol + 180 to ship.
Oh little Stevie Retro, never appreciates all the content
My IBM p260 died when i decided to use it for modern gaming.
Lost picture then a faint/medium pitch hiss. No smoke notbing.
Sadly i have no interest in paying 600+ for a monitor especially at risk of poor packaging.
Downside is....20-22" monitors are very hard to find and i dont wanna plug my dell 1600HS in and risk it diying too.
(Im hopefully gonna fix it or find a shop that can)
I once ordered a 14 inch Jvc I’art and the only packaging material was a thin piece of cardboard. Came completely destroyed
Shipping CRT's is way too risky! I don't think it matters of how well packaged it is.
I agree. No matter how well you packed, there are still chances getting damaged. I used to have a computer packed in factory box with styrofoam surrounded 4 sides but still got damaged (chassis deformed). When the box dropped on ground on its corners, nothing will survive. Shipping something like this is just gambling. And please remember, you't better try to avoid Fedex and USPS, UPS is way safer.
@@changlongnan I wouldn't ship a modern TV - let alone a CRT.
I was fixing my CRT yesterday aligning the color rings and suddendly my monitor went dark 😭 it workss but the video is just dark Idk what to do cause it was working perfectly yesterday! It’s a Toshiba from 1987
Where do you sell your tvs?
I need one
Let me provide a very standard and overly used description of a CRT TV from an eBay seller: “Tested. Working. No Remote” …. now doesnt that just fill you over the top with confidence in the product you are about to pour $400-$500 into? Maybe a little more effort on the descriptions would be nice?
Legend
A good part of this is the sender, but the other part if the courier. If the courier uses your package as football and the contents is something like a CRT, then odds are it's going to break.
Senders and buyers should not cheap out and go with the lowest bidder when it comes to courier. Even then, stil no complete guarantee, of course.
That being said, not packaging something up appropriately is deeply lazy and stupid - even more so if the seller didn't insure it.
I've also been burned by FedEx dropping a CRT right at my doorstep. Thankfully only minimal damage to the bottom corner of the bezel...tube ended up undamaged. I even have video footage of the driver dropping it then looking at my Ring camera. Jerk.
As an Ebay seller i can say this is ridiculous. Gives sellers a bad name.
Yes, ebay is the worst place you can buy a crt.
I sell a reasonable amount on eBay, including VCRs, Tape decks, etc., and the quality of packaging I've seen you get CRTs in is a disgrace.
How do these moron sellers think the items are being shipped - personally chauffeured across the US on a velvet cushion?
Wait my packages I send out don't travel on a velvet cushion. 👀
was uship not an option?
Do you buy them for your own collection 😊?
its all fun and games until the buzzle comes bested
Crate shipping…. Cheaper and safer
Damn son you got rekt on that first one. I'm gonna laugh if the seller wins 😂.
😆
Damn, that is a shame to see such nice devices get damaged due to an idiot's lazy packaging job. I just can't understand it either. The sellers are wasting their own money and time by not doing a proper job packing stuff.
I sell on eBay frequently, and all expensive items (especially electronics) are wrapped in bubble wrap SEVERAL times over, and packaged in boxes that actually fit the item. A lot of people will tell newbies they can use anything to pad the rest of the box (like newspaper, grocery bags, even tissue paper) - NOPE. All of that stuff (and even packing peanuts, despite their name) are way too thin and flimsy, and won't actually hold the item in place when the box is being jostled on a truck or thrown across a room. Bubble wrap and cardboard boxes are not expensive, especially when it comes to $400+ items.
Sorry about the rant, this stuff just infuriates me, lol. I was actually thinking about getting a bigger CRT sometime, but now I'm very wary of buying one off of eBay. I also once had a limited edition PS2 shipped to me in a Subway box w/ sandwich wrapping paper, no bubble wrap whatsoever. Somehow it was perfectly fine, but that still irked me.
Ebay CRT sellers are generally lazy with questions and dont really care
Very true and sometimes they are just rude if they do reply.
Every single CRT I have tried to buy on EBAY has arrived damaged. Every single one. And most of them were packed quite well too.
The shipping companies just don't give a damn. & good luck trying to get your money back even if you purchase insurance. They will do everything they can to deny your claim. It's a total scam job & absolutely criminal. A class action lawsuit should be in place for this...
Never buy insurance from your carriers. Instead, using courier's packing service. One time, I paid Fedex to pack and ship a 30 inch CRT monitor, the monitor arrived safely. I was actually regretted to use Fedex's packing service because I watched them doing it entire time and their job was actually very poor. I guess maybe their employees may pay more attention and be more careful if they see their own packages? I don't know.
@@changlongnan I'm not sure I follow... you're saying to use their packing service or no? Sounds like it didn't go well so not sure I understand what ur saying.
Great video but please avoid clickbaity titles.
I actually find these videos too hard to watch 😭😭😭
one and only time i bought a CRT off ebay it was packed pretty well but it had some serious audio issues and geometry issues so bad the image looked bowed in the middle. shame really because the CRT itself was razor sharp. I dont have the skill to fix it so i sold it to a buddy who didnt mind the problems.