Very nice solid,strong looking pen . I like the girth. I’ve seen JH pens at an Australian retailer in Melbourne. Quite expensive at $400 AUD . I got the impression you pay a lot for the name. I think a Diplomat would be better value.
Very good review, as you mentioned at that price range you really have to like French pens. Seems that 200 Euros is somewhat on the expensive side. Thanks for reviewing the pen, these are always useful🙏🙏🙏🙏
It's a smart looking scribe, Michael, but I do hold issue with the lateral movement of that clip - the subsequent scoring of the cap body underneath; perhaps, rather than an 'edge' that separates the distal end of the clip, a flat plate or ball would ensure no damage comes to the cap surface; true, it doesn't immediately show, but I'd be a little more than ticked off for a 200 euro writing instrument. The brushed accents offer a nice modern contemporary look, & it's nicely offset with the piano gloss finish; it is a very industrial looking piece, & like you, chunky enough for my large hands. For me, the deal breaker is that Bock nib - their reputation for quality control has been poor in the last few years, & even with a steel blade, skipping due to the over-polished tipping is an unacceptable trait in a brand new pen. I'd be inclined to lower the price by say, 35 euros, & then swap out the No. 6 nib with a Jowo equivalent. Experience has taught me that attempting to finesse this latest batch of Bock nibs is a futile exercise - less aggravation to supplant same with something reliable. In terms of production, I consider the clip can be modified relatively cheaply, but that (current) nib would have to go - & not unlike Visconti's blades, Bock will not listen to customer feedback; in this Twenty-first century business world, indolence & arrogance just doesn't cut it; a great pity, because I very much like the pen, too. Thanks, as always for your perspicacity & balanced overview, my friend.... Best, Andrew 🙂
Thanks much for the returning visits, Andrew. I apologize for a delayed reply! I see, as so often, the stars align when it comes to our opinions about scribes. This one here seems no exception. Thanks for shedding some additional nuance on this example right here! Looking forward to read you soon, again.
No apologies necessary, my friend - life (as it invariably does) doesn't always allow us the time we'd like to spend with our friends. As the English sometimes express, we appear to be 'cut from the same cloth', in terms of opinion. It is a lovely scribe, nevertheless. I too, look forward to your next presentation with relish; stay well & keep safe, Michael, Best, Andrew 🙂
So, for 207 Euro it is a pen which needs micro-mash treatment and has a steel nib (and catridge/converter). I am not sure the logic behind it, it dosen't fit the low end daily usage nor in the middle for the fine writing situation, I hope the problem You ran into is just individuall difference, otherwise it will really make this pen in a weird situation. Anyway thanks for the review, enjoyed to watch.
Nice looking pen, but the clip problem - and needing some nib tuning - stops me cold. Things like that take away the enjoyment of a pen for me no matter how nice they may look otherwise. I do like the girth of it though. 200 Euros...these days it's getting harder and harder to find new pens at that price or lower that aren't some sort of disappointment like this. The same thing is happening with all kinds of products, not just pens. Material and labor costs go up, company stockholders pressure for profit increases, and quality goes down as salaries and wages don't keep up with the increase in prices. I enjoy your reviews not only for what I might wish to buy, but also what I'm glad I won't be buying. Thanks!
It takes a lot of capital to set up a pen manufacturing unit and searching on the Web I only find references to Herbin inks except on their own website. They say the pen is made in France. Is it perhaps merely assembled in France? I say this because the clip is unimpressive and the threads are of a design which does not require Engineering precision to work well. That thread design is typically used on cheap products. All in all I keep thinking China. Of course it isn't possible to assess the quality of a product from a video, but this did not look like a quality pen. Sorry to be so cynical. A word on nibs? Companies like Bock, Schmidt and Yowo seem to provide their pen company customers with a range of qualities. I know of one prestige pen company which uses both Bock and Yowo nibs (stamped with their own branding) and they are exemplary, far and above the quality Bock and Yowo sell to the public. Have you abandoned doing weights and dimensions on your reviews? I found them very helpful. Anyway, thank you for this great review. I found it very useful.
Thanks much for your comment, my friend. In the meantime, I have swapped out the nib to a platinum nib - now I really like the pen. Apart from that flimsy clip. On another note: I have never ever done weights and measurements. The only thing I did, and still do, is comparing pens to my standard reference, the Lamy Safari. Other people on the webs (incl pen manufacturers and retailers) already document weights and measurements - so no need for me to bore myself and others with that ;)
Your reviews are always balanced. Most informative, too.
Much appreciate your continued engagement and comments here. Thank you!
Very nice solid,strong looking pen . I like the girth. I’ve seen JH pens at an Australian retailer in Melbourne. Quite expensive at $400 AUD . I got the impression you pay a lot for the name. I think a Diplomat would be better value.
A Diplomat would be a better value, for sure!
Very good review, as you mentioned at that price range you really have to like French pens. Seems that 200 Euros is somewhat on the expensive side. Thanks for reviewing the pen, these are always useful🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thanks much! Glad the review was useful!
It's a smart looking scribe, Michael, but I do hold issue with the lateral movement of that clip - the subsequent scoring of the cap body underneath; perhaps, rather than an 'edge' that separates the distal end of the clip, a flat plate or ball would ensure no damage comes to the cap surface; true, it doesn't immediately show, but I'd be a little more than ticked off for a 200 euro writing instrument. The brushed accents offer a nice modern contemporary look, & it's nicely offset with the piano gloss finish; it is a very industrial looking piece, & like you, chunky enough for my large hands. For me, the deal breaker is that Bock nib - their reputation for quality control has been poor in the last few years, & even with a steel blade, skipping due to the over-polished tipping is an unacceptable trait in a brand new pen. I'd be inclined to lower the price by say, 35 euros, & then swap out the No. 6 nib with a Jowo equivalent. Experience has taught me that attempting to finesse this latest batch of Bock nibs is a futile exercise - less aggravation to supplant same with something reliable. In terms of production, I consider the clip can be modified relatively cheaply, but that (current) nib would have to go - & not unlike Visconti's blades, Bock will not listen to customer feedback; in this Twenty-first century business world, indolence & arrogance just doesn't cut it; a great pity, because I very much like the pen, too. Thanks, as always for your perspicacity & balanced overview, my friend....
Best,
Andrew 🙂
Thanks much for the returning visits, Andrew. I apologize for a delayed reply! I see, as so often, the stars align when it comes to our opinions about scribes. This one here seems no exception. Thanks for shedding some additional nuance on this example right here! Looking forward to read you soon, again.
No apologies necessary, my friend - life (as it invariably does) doesn't always allow us the time we'd like to spend with our friends. As the English sometimes express, we appear to be 'cut from the same cloth', in terms of opinion. It is a lovely scribe, nevertheless. I too, look forward to your next presentation with relish; stay well & keep safe, Michael,
Best,
Andrew 🙂
So, for 207 Euro it is a pen which needs micro-mash treatment and has a steel nib (and catridge/converter). I am not sure the logic behind it, it dosen't fit the low end daily usage nor in the middle for the fine writing situation, I hope the problem You ran into is just individuall difference, otherwise it will really make this pen in a weird situation. Anyway thanks for the review, enjoyed to watch.
Thanks much. I find it as confusing as you do.
That flimsy clip put me off seriously. This is not acceptable.
Thanks Michael for showing a different pen this time.
Thanks much! Yes, the clip is irritating, indeed.
Nice looking pen, but the clip problem - and needing some nib tuning - stops me cold. Things like that take away the enjoyment of a pen for me no matter how nice they may look otherwise. I do like the girth of it though. 200 Euros...these days it's getting harder and harder to find new pens at that price or lower that aren't some sort of disappointment like this. The same thing is happening with all kinds of products, not just pens. Material and labor costs go up, company stockholders pressure for profit increases, and quality goes down as salaries and wages don't keep up with the increase in prices. I enjoy your reviews not only for what I might wish to buy, but also what I'm glad I won't be buying. Thanks!
Thanks for your comment, Jay. Glad you stopped by !
Sharp looking pen
The design is very well done, for sure.
It takes a lot of capital to set up a pen manufacturing unit and searching on the Web I only find references to Herbin inks except on their own website. They say the pen is made in France. Is it perhaps merely assembled in France?
I say this because the clip is unimpressive and the threads are of a design which does not require Engineering precision to work well. That thread design is typically used on cheap products. All in all I keep thinking China.
Of course it isn't possible to assess the quality of a product from a video, but this did not look like a quality pen.
Sorry to be so cynical.
A word on nibs? Companies like Bock, Schmidt and Yowo seem to provide their pen company customers with a range of qualities. I know of one prestige pen company which uses both Bock and Yowo nibs (stamped with their own branding) and they are exemplary, far and above the quality Bock and Yowo sell to the public.
Have you abandoned doing weights and dimensions on your reviews? I found them very helpful.
Anyway, thank you for this great review. I found it very useful.
Thanks much for your comment, my friend. In the meantime, I have swapped out the nib to a platinum nib - now I really like the pen. Apart from that flimsy clip. On another note: I have never ever done weights and measurements. The only thing I did, and still do, is comparing pens to my standard reference, the Lamy Safari. Other people on the webs (incl pen manufacturers and retailers) already document weights and measurements - so no need for me to bore myself and others with that ;)
@@Scrivelynotes Ah, my ageing brain!
Platinum nib? wonderful. 👍