I made a dice from stainless steel and copper cable leftovers

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  • @randomtechnician
    @randomtechnician  Місяць тому +33

    Now I already have the spacers and the dotmakerthing, so it would be no problem to make more dice with different materials. What materials would you like to see?
    Also check out my Patreon page for more, it will get more active soon:
    www.patreon.com/c/randomtechnician?view_as=patron

    • @alexaitken9444
      @alexaitken9444 Місяць тому +4

      Platinum, Gold, Silver, Bronze to complete the set..
      A Yahtzee zealots wet dream...

    • @ЛёхаКома-э7о
      @ЛёхаКома-э7о Місяць тому

      Титан

    • @gearslayer-vn3gz
      @gearslayer-vn3gz Місяць тому +1

      I think you should reverse which is which to make a set so copper block and steel pins. I'm not sure if copper is too soft for tha, though.

    • @raymond9290
      @raymond9290 Місяць тому

      Is it possible for you to make a rubik cube?

    • @randomtechnician
      @randomtechnician  Місяць тому +1

      @@raymond9290I‘ve been planning this for a while 🤫

  • @LignumFabric
    @LignumFabric Місяць тому +56

    When I was in high school my teacher told me that lathe is probably the only machine that can build another machine. Now I actually believe that. Great lathe work!

    • @rem45acp
      @rem45acp 28 днів тому +2

      If you have a lathe and a mill you can make anything! I have a laundry list of things to buy that aren’t needed but nice to have if / when I get my family into a house
      Grill, table saw, router, circ saw, lathe, mini mill

    • @SleeplessKingsforge
      @SleeplessKingsforge 25 днів тому

      @@rem45acp i use to have both in my garage a 8 foot lathe and a bridgeport milling machine dammit i miss them they were another family members property they decided to sell them off it killed me

    • @teacheme
      @teacheme 5 годин тому

      I agree. But who built the first one ? (Chicken/egg.)

  • @Cooking-frogs
    @Cooking-frogs Місяць тому +35

    I love the fact you mechanically bonded the metals.

  • @Mytrios2137
    @Mytrios2137 Місяць тому +32

    I like how the (i assume) copper dots aren't flush with the rest of the pruduct due to sanding and them being softer, gives it nice little detail

  • @AllYourSwords
    @AllYourSwords Місяць тому +47

    Can you balance test it though?

    • @randomtechnician
      @randomtechnician  29 днів тому +1

      I'm thinking about how I should do that for an accurate result

    • @jimmy_kirk
      @jimmy_kirk 28 днів тому +1

      @@randomtechnician They generally use a tool called a "dice balancing caliper".

    • @randomtechnician
      @randomtechnician  28 днів тому +1

      @@jimmy_kirk Thank you very much! Maybe I will build one in the next Video

    • @goosemchjank9146
      @goosemchjank9146 14 годин тому

      ​@@randomtechnicianyou could also just roll it a crap ton of times to see if any of the sides are rolled more often

  • @nasszelle534
    @nasszelle534 Місяць тому +10

    please throw dice at least 50,000 times and check randomness. Maybe a six is more likely than a 1, if copper is assumed to be denser than steel.

  • @AvidWelder
    @AvidWelder Місяць тому +9

    This is incredibly creative! The final result is absolutely stunning. Amazing work!

  • @Jooligan1
    @Jooligan1 17 годин тому

    Very stylish and I love the way the copper spots are quite subtle.

  • @valaha
    @valaha Місяць тому +18

    using spacers are fucking genius... I mean... begin of video i had no idea why spacers needed.... when i saw it how to use it, i was like WOW... this guy is smart.

  • @Kpytilka
    @Kpytilka 29 днів тому +5

    Как предмет искусства - супер, как игральная кость - плохо. Она попросту не будет перекатываться из-за острых граней

  • @user-cu5qb2oo6s
    @user-cu5qb2oo6s 26 днів тому +1

    If you’re planning on making more of these I would recommend making the copper pins first. That way when you drill the holes in the cube you can keep it in the chuck and countersink it, press the pins with each hole, then face it at the end. You probably wouldn’t want to heat the cube with a torch while it’s in the machine, but if you turn the diameter of the pins down they’ll go in much easier. This turned out great and it definitely opened my eyes more to the art side of machining rather than manufacturing. Great build!

    • @randomtechnician
      @randomtechnician  26 днів тому

      Thank you very much!

    • @Arun-hd6un
      @Arun-hd6un 17 днів тому

      If it goes easy it comes out easy

    • @Arun-hd6un
      @Arun-hd6un 17 днів тому

      It's actually a best way to heat the cube so that it comes back to it's original size when cooled

  • @Reman1975
    @Reman1975 Місяць тому +4

    I'm thinking that with a few days of handling, the copper will start to tarnish nicely and (To my eyes) give a much more aesthetically pleasing contrast to the mirror polished steel.

  • @dragon411320
    @dragon411320 Місяць тому +8

    turned out awesome, now to make a brass one with aluminum dots!

    • @randomtechnician
      @randomtechnician  Місяць тому +4

      Thank you, challenge accepted

    • @dragon411320
      @dragon411320 Місяць тому +1

      @@randomtechnician if you do it, really be neat to see if the weight difference (assuming same size) affects rolling momentum

    • @radhikatommaso873
      @radhikatommaso873 Місяць тому

      Did you care that opposite faces must always sum 7?

    • @randomtechnician
      @randomtechnician  Місяць тому +1

      @@radhikatommaso873 Of course

  • @nachtdiertje1972
    @nachtdiertje1972 Місяць тому +9

    Very nice job, but I wouldn't take it to Vegas, to try if it works 🙃

    • @randomtechnician
      @randomtechnician  Місяць тому

      Yes, its a bit heavy 😅

    • @FrancSchiphorst
      @FrancSchiphorst Місяць тому

      @@randomtechnician on one side.... :D

    • @randomtechnician
      @randomtechnician  Місяць тому +2

      The difference is not that big, stainless steel 8g/cm3 copper 9g/cm3. So the weight of a copper dot is around 0,084g and the removed stainless steel is 0,074g. The complete die should have something around 20g.

    • @liverpudd306
      @liverpudd306 Місяць тому +3

      @@randomtechnician Indeed. However, the dice mass is not strictly homogeneous having the copper inserts and It would be interesting to see over a coulple of hundred thousand tosses what is the actual bias of this dice and see whether it is biased towards the 6 and compare that to a simulated random tosses to see if they were in the same ball park.

    • @gregmead2967
      @gregmead2967 29 днів тому +1

      @@liverpudd306 Since the copper is more dense, I'd expect the 6 to wind up face down and the 1 to come up more often.

  • @fiskfisk33
    @fiskfisk33 Місяць тому +9

    * a die
    pedantry aside, thats super nice!

    • @randomtechnician
      @randomtechnician  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you, you are right 😅

    • @DR-sv8ke
      @DR-sv8ke 28 днів тому

      How was this person being pedantic? When machining things like this, details are a must. Did you just learn this word?

  • @Bob-of-Zoid
    @Bob-of-Zoid 29 днів тому

    I had to make one as part of my apprenticeship in Germany all the way back in the 70's! It was bigger, the dots were brass, and it mounted on corner to a round base, I of course also had to make. Oh, and less machine use, as we had to be able to do things by lesser means if need be. They had us filing metals for 3 months straight, to high precision and accuracy, complex radii and all!😠 It was like a ride through Blisterville, but having those skills, especially in sculpting have come in handy, and served me well, and others too when I saw them doing it all wrong, and needing way more time than had they known all of the ins and outs in detail, so I showed them. Some of the stuff is counter intuitive to many (maybe most) people.

  • @Eric_Estridge
    @Eric_Estridge Місяць тому +2

    Awesome work. I want a set.

  • @JosephCooperNightcore
    @JosephCooperNightcore 29 днів тому +7

    It's beautiful. I know that it would be expensive, but imagine a dice made with damascus steel and dots made of blue anodized titanium.

  • @liverpudd306
    @liverpudd306 Місяць тому +2

    Great video and clever use of the lathe and spacers. I'm sure Quinn would have done most of it on her mill after the first cut on the lathe.

  • @momentoargento
    @momentoargento 22 дні тому +1

    Good job, now, plus 4!😂, you can do it!!!

  • @ScottGunMag69
    @ScottGunMag69 29 днів тому

    Nice job turned out beautiful. The ss ones I made were electro polished. Fun stuff!

  • @charles-arthurradford957
    @charles-arthurradford957 Місяць тому

    Les dés en métal, c'est toujours très stylé, et quand on l'a fabriqué soi-même, c'est top !

  • @PaulMcillen
    @PaulMcillen 29 днів тому

    Very nice work, i wouldn't have the patience for dice

  • @Skybolter
    @Skybolter 25 днів тому

    Beautiful artwork, i wish i could have one.

  • @ivanbiirus
    @ivanbiirus Місяць тому

    Looks awesome!
    However, from the usability perspective it has some flaws.
    Copper has 3 times higher density than aluminum and thus the die will tend to land on 6 dots face.
    From the craftsmanship standpoint - great work!

    • @randomtechnician
      @randomtechnician  Місяць тому +1

      It‘s stainless steel, not much difference in density. Thank you!

  • @a.kruithof9862
    @a.kruithof9862 26 днів тому

    You should make the edges of the cube way more rounded. Nice trick with the spacers.

  • @cristianmarquez2983
    @cristianmarquez2983 22 дні тому

    Cool project.. although dice are more like a sphere with flat sides. Since the dots can't be flush, why not make them concave.. they'd be green with time. :)

  • @mrdixioner
    @mrdixioner 18 днів тому

    Красота!!! Но лучше было бы не до конца делать куб, а оставить скруглённые грани, получилось бы как белые кубики, симпатичнее.

    • @kostyn420
      @kostyn420 3 дні тому

      Дело не в красоте! А дело в физике. Он будет катиться хуже из-за не скругленных граней и углов.

  • @PluralFish
    @PluralFish 29 днів тому

    Your editing is on point 👍🏻

  • @khorenmartirosyan8434
    @khorenmartirosyan8434 13 годин тому

    Well done!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻Wunderschön!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @Dazdigo
    @Dazdigo 29 днів тому +1

    Mind showing us a balance test with this dice?

  • @r4d8h
    @r4d8h Місяць тому +1

    Помню у нас в 90 х еще..один пацан на станке сделал 8 кубиков из стали... И даже точки подсверлил на них.... И через каждый один бросок все 8 кубиков ложились 6 ками к верху.... Потому что единицы были на противоположной стороне.

    • @llihyp9292
      @llihyp9292 Місяць тому

      Так по правилам и должно быть. Сумма противоположных сторон всегда должна быть равна 7.

    • @llihyp9292
      @llihyp9292 Місяць тому

      Так по правилам и должно быть. Сумма противоположных сторон всегда должна быть равна 7.

    • @r4d8h
      @r4d8h Місяць тому

      @@llihyp9292 только точки полагается наносить краской

  • @barcooler
    @barcooler Місяць тому +1

    Очень красиво.
    Вы сделали то, чт я хотел сам давно сделать. 😅

  • @Toyota-1654
    @Toyota-1654 2 дні тому

    Well, the cube definitely gave you an 5😊

  • @kathysarmcandy1992
    @kathysarmcandy1992 Місяць тому +1

    Beautiful. Copper dice with stainless inserts? Aluminum dice with unobtainium inserts?

  • @CharlesGates-v6n
    @CharlesGates-v6n Місяць тому

    I would definitely buy a pair.

  • @ScottGunMag69
    @ScottGunMag69 29 днів тому

    I made a set out of stainless that were 1 inch square. They would dent a table. I didn’t make them out of round stock however, flat stock and a cnc mill. Another shop I worked at, we made some out of .125” sheet metal that were 3 inches square. Used a cnc punch to make the holes in the sheets, and had our welding apprentice weld them up for practice.

  • @billkraemer4710
    @billkraemer4710 29 днів тому

    I made a pair of dice out of ebony using some plastic rods I reclaimed out a kitchen utensil display. The more you round off the corners the more action you get from each die. They are about the size of the dice used on craps tables in Vegas. It was a fun project. It took me two tries to get the things right.

  • @apock6115
    @apock6115 26 днів тому

    8:23 that one felt like, fuk it let's just get it done 😆🤣

  • @EduBeltramino
    @EduBeltramino 28 днів тому

    Por increíble que sea hacer un dado que vaya mas alla de la estética es extremadamente complejo. En este caso es literalmente precioso, lastima que no sirva para mas que mostrarlo o para jugar en casa.
    Pregunta simple ...como sabes que no pesa mas de un lado que del otro?

    • @randomtechnician
      @randomtechnician  28 днів тому

      ¡Gracias! El acero inoxidable y el cobre tienen un peso similar, pero también construiré un medidor para estar seguro.

  • @UnicornTears12
    @UnicornTears12 Місяць тому +2

    I swear I thought that was a banana in the thumbnail. So that's how my day is going.

  • @tolleson49
    @tolleson49 13 днів тому

    Excellent work

  • @BariumCobaltNitrog3n
    @BariumCobaltNitrog3n Місяць тому +2

    This editing is so much more satisfying than sped up footage. What language calls it grid?

  • @happypersonyt7330
    @happypersonyt7330 17 днів тому

    What a perfectly made 👌

  • @Flechaus
    @Flechaus Місяць тому

    Seu trabalho ficou lindo!
    Só achei que ficou com pouco contraste entre os materiais utilizados.
    Parabéns‼️😏👍

  • @WildRealx
    @WildRealx 14 днів тому

    Made a very great dice ❤

  • @tasogarerubica
    @tasogarerubica 28 днів тому

    It would be an iteiguing challenge to make other types of die, trying to factor out how to fabricate a d20 with a lathe would be an awesome vit to watch

  • @CompleteNo_1
    @CompleteNo_1 28 днів тому

    Amazing work

  • @Patrick-gm6lx
    @Patrick-gm6lx 27 днів тому

    Das sieht sehr sehr gut aus!

  • @frozenwalkway
    @frozenwalkway 27 днів тому

    this the type of machining video that makes me think i can do this lol creating hand made things that are machine assisted and hand finished.

  • @Custly
    @Custly Місяць тому +1

    Great vid!

  • @MRRUSSIAN244
    @MRRUSSIAN244 10 днів тому

    Bro that's satisfying ❤❤

  • @LFKGooner
    @LFKGooner 28 днів тому

    Super satisfying.

  • @DrHutOfHandcraft
    @DrHutOfHandcraft 28 днів тому

    Nice one 👍🏼

  • @Oreo-e6w
    @Oreo-e6w 27 днів тому +1

    I thought that was a weird banana at first

  • @Dvinyard69
    @Dvinyard69 Місяць тому +1

    Why did the copper end up recessing at the end?

    • @Bobs-Wrigles5555
      @Bobs-Wrigles5555 Місяць тому +2

      Copper is a lot softer than Stainless, when you use polishing compound on a rag the copper will wear away a lot quicker resulting in a recessed copper dot/s

    • @randomtechnician
      @randomtechnician  Місяць тому +2

      yes, i like the effect with the slightly deeper dots

    • @Dvinyard69
      @Dvinyard69 Місяць тому +1

      @@Bobs-Wrigles5555 did not realize it would be so significant. It does have a nice effect too.

    • @SuperPhexx
      @SuperPhexx Місяць тому

      Tho i like the effect in this particular instance, the way to avoid/minimise this is to sand it to a very high grade (2000) on a hard flat surface before polishing.
      Sandpaper for wet sanding on glass works vell. put water between the sandpaper and glass to 'glue' it down.

  • @jrtmanmd
    @jrtmanmd День тому

    Nice work, but is it balanced?

  • @-MrDontCare-
    @-MrDontCare- Місяць тому +2

    Very nice.

  • @TalRohan
    @TalRohan Місяць тому +1

    very pretty and super shiny....cool end result with a full house (I think) I know its Yahtzee lol

    • @randomtechnician
      @randomtechnician  Місяць тому +1

      Yes you are right, the full house was a nice surprise 😄 Edit: Of course it is a straight sorry for the confusion

    • @TalRohan
      @TalRohan Місяць тому

      @@randomtechnician you couldnt have had a better result ...nice one..and thanks for confirming that.

    • @BariumCobaltNitrog3n
      @BariumCobaltNitrog3n Місяць тому

      This is a straight. A full house is two of one thing and three of another, like 2, 2, 3, 3, 3.

    • @TalRohan
      @TalRohan Місяць тому

      @@BariumCobaltNitrog3n cool thanks for the info...Whats your favourite sort of Bacon?

    • @BariumCobaltNitrog3n
      @BariumCobaltNitrog3n Місяць тому

      @@TalRohan crispy and non-turkey

  • @alisalehi5728
    @alisalehi5728 27 днів тому

    That was clever!!

  • @vancitynico1958
    @vancitynico1958 26 днів тому

    If I gambled with those I would only bet SNAKE EYES 😅

  • @hvnterblack
    @hvnterblack Місяць тому

    Lot of work, but efffect is stunning.

  • @rynor7132
    @rynor7132 21 годину тому

    Nice but how did you balance it

  • @MexicanStandoff-l5u
    @MexicanStandoff-l5u 25 днів тому

    Very cool and looks awesome…. There’s no way that it’s not loaded somewhere though.

  • @Sazzad9909
    @Sazzad9909 12 днів тому

    The copper can be molten right?

  • @niranjanroy9316
    @niranjanroy9316 12 днів тому

    What a talent

  • @Ernzt8
    @Ernzt8 Місяць тому

    Beautiful!

  • @JohnDoe-es5xh
    @JohnDoe-es5xh Місяць тому +1

    The contrast between the copper and the steel is not that good. Drops of paint in the holes would have been better. Anyway, nice work.

    • @Wanderwavves
      @Wanderwavves Місяць тому

      It’s a fully metal die that would defeat the purpose of the video

  • @quigonkenny
    @quigonkenny 23 дні тому

    Might just be me viewing it on my phone, but I have a really hard time reading those dice. Maybe you could hit them with some kind of solution that oxidizes the copper to make it stand out more.

  • @Sozidatel-j5e
    @Sozidatel-j5e 27 днів тому

    Было мне 15 лет, устроили меня на работу, в то время зашла к нам одна игра в кости, тысяча называлась, забавная игруха, а кости был такой дефицит что днём с огнём не найти, и пришлось на предприятии сделать их, делал из многих материалов в том числе и таких как в ролике, не помню сколько сотен я их переделал так как в игре задействованно 5 штук,, а друзей было куча, так что я на этом собаку с то ел и её шубой закусил, и это не имея в тот момент никаких навыков, только желание быть модным парнем,, а было это каких то 30 лет назад, а вроди позавчера😢

  • @vrus96
    @vrus96 24 дні тому +1

    I think you need make more rounded corner for more rolling...

  • @clappingjazzhands9408
    @clappingjazzhands9408 29 днів тому

    Why not start with stainless bar stock?

    • @randomtechnician
      @randomtechnician  29 днів тому

      The round bar was in my leftover box an the dimensions were good for the dice

  • @DiVO4271
    @DiVO4271 28 днів тому

    Надо бы вершины срезать, чтобы кубик не скакал, а катился. Вон же, есть правильные образцы игральных кубиков. Иначе, его слишком просто бросать с программируемым результатом.

  • @MrPodging
    @MrPodging 25 днів тому

    I don't understand why you heated the cube up. Sure, it will expand while it's hot, but you then show yourself holding the cube with bare fingers so you must have let the cube cool (and shrink) back down.

    • @randomtechnician
      @randomtechnician  25 днів тому +1

      It was relatively cold in the workshop, so i heated it up a bit to support the mechanical connection. Just about 40degree C.

  • @Thoroughly_Wet
    @Thoroughly_Wet Місяць тому +1

    Full Metal Dicechemist

  • @Louisiana_mud
    @Louisiana_mud Місяць тому

    5:59 why did I die to this 😂

  • @rubberduck4966
    @rubberduck4966 Місяць тому

    You should have used heat to expand the cube or cold for shrinking the copper to fit the copper into the cube.

    • @randomtechnician
      @randomtechnician  Місяць тому

      I used heat for the cube. Because the copper is so soft I pressed it into the cube without further machining.

    • @andymouse
      @andymouse 29 днів тому

      Why ? His method was perfect he didn't need a comment like this unless your Die looks better perhaps.

  • @grf73tube
    @grf73tube Місяць тому +1

    Nice work although the dots are bearly visible. Also not a balanced die, so only for decorative purposes, which is perfectly fine, of course

  • @platinumboyofficial544
    @platinumboyofficial544 23 дні тому

    Why u fit copper wire in dice whithout copper wire it is also good

  • @josephpk4878
    @josephpk4878 Місяць тому

    Nice die. Would love to play with two of these dice.

  • @C_HILL_OUT
    @C_HILL_OUT День тому

    Would have been so much easier using a mill to make the square and then drill and ream the holes. Then I would have installed the copper and turned the sides on a lathe for the finish. I would have chamfered the edges on a mill and not with a file to make it more uniform.
    But hey, I’m just a manual machinist who’s been running these machines for 30 years.

  • @FR4M3Sharma
    @FR4M3Sharma Місяць тому

    It's quite hard to see the number of dots on it though. Maybe you can try with some other metal instead of copper?

    • @randomtechnician
      @randomtechnician  Місяць тому +1

      Yes, i think i will make another one or two with different materials. Maybe the copper will become darker in some days. I will post an update if that happens.

  • @Val_da_Shark
    @Val_da_Shark Місяць тому

    Anyone else think for just a moment that the copper cable in the thumbnail was a really messed up banana ?

  • @CAustin582
    @CAustin582 Місяць тому

    I'm surprised you used the lathe for the holes rather than a drill press.

  • @nbaua3454
    @nbaua3454 12 днів тому

    Best way to start with square rod isn't it?

  • @kensprivateinvestigation2128
    @kensprivateinvestigation2128 28 днів тому

    I thought that yellow wire in the thumbnail was a weird looking banana for some reason.
    Im going back to bed.

  • @Cube-malayalam_tricks
    @Cube-malayalam_tricks 29 днів тому

    Super, i like it

  • @ArkadiuszKurnicki
    @ArkadiuszKurnicki Місяць тому +1

    ale ty tak na poważnie nie odróżniasz , stali nierdzewnej od aluminium?

    • @randomtechnician
      @randomtechnician  Місяць тому

      Ale to jest stal nierdzewna, obraz podglądu jest trochę mylący

  • @MadMaxWiseEx
    @MadMaxWiseEx Місяць тому

    Отличная работа. Осталось нанести на грани кубика разметку краской в виде точек, ну или наклейки. 😉

    • @andymouse
      @andymouse 29 днів тому

      Wow ! you totally missed the point.

  • @mva2776
    @mva2776 Місяць тому +1

    режущая пластина из какого сплава? какой геометрии? очень она мягко у тебя нержавку режет!

    • @randomtechnician
      @randomtechnician  Місяць тому

      Они такие: www.paulimot.de/Drehen/Wendeschneidplatten/PVD-TiAlN-beschichtet/2609/HM-Wendeschneidplatte-WCMT050308-TiAlN

    • @barcooler
      @barcooler Місяць тому

      Я обычным ВК8 режу не заморачиваясь.
      Вопрос лишь в скорости резания.
      Ну и чтобы кромки были достаточно острые.

    • @НашСемейников
      @НашСемейников Місяць тому

      Обратите внимание на цвет нержи , мало никеля . Та же 12 х 18 н 10 т гораздо желтее . Что то похожее на распростанённый сейчас аиси 304 . У нас на производстве такая даже от пара в 2 атм разрушается , замучились дырки варить .

  • @cedricberube
    @cedricberube 29 днів тому

    I prefer hollow point dice but nive video!

  • @andymouse
    @andymouse 29 днів тому

    Awesome !

  • @olejrgenkiil6735
    @olejrgenkiil6735 4 дні тому

    very nice

  • @dheerajbajaj1157
    @dheerajbajaj1157 19 днів тому

    u r genius

  • @ДмитрийКулаков-м3л

    Это столько потрачено ресурсов и времени, чтобы на выходе получить кубик😂😂😂 , а в ручную не пробовали?

  • @proyectosmicropic
    @proyectosmicropic 7 днів тому

    El truco de usar los espaciadores para buscar el centro de los puntos es brillante

  • @Branch_Vincent
    @Branch_Vincent 22 дні тому

    I thought that was a banana on the cover of the video😅

  • @jandregerber7534
    @jandregerber7534 27 днів тому

    I was so drunk, I thought it was a banana in the thumbnail. Wow

  • @fabientuizat1129
    @fabientuizat1129 Місяць тому +1

    Merci !! cet inox est facile a usiner !!

    • @randomtechnician
      @randomtechnician  Місяць тому +1

      Merci, c'était simplement un morceau de V2A de ma boîte restante

    • @fabientuizat1129
      @fabientuizat1129 Місяць тому

      @@randomtechnician merci de l info !!!

  • @jhomer145
    @jhomer145 Місяць тому

    You need a vertical mill !