Engineering The Sound: Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
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- Опубліковано 25 бер 2018
- Post-punk. A hyphenated word likely dropped on almost every music blog in the last week. The genre’s recent revival has become somewhat of a global occurrence, with bands like Diät emerging from Berlin, Protomartyr rhythmically driving away from within the heart of Trump country, and even a vibrant local scene here in Australia, spearheaded by Melbourne legends, Total Control, and being taken in new directions by the likes of Sydney’s DEN.
It would be tough to assert that none of these artists are familiar with Joy Division - it would be even more absurd to claim that none of these post-punkers are fans of the genre’s pioneers.
When exploring the crystalline grit that is the sound of Joy Division, one cannot go past the influence that producer Martin Hannett had on their music. Let's take a look at how he shaped Unknown Pleasures.
Almost three decades before the release of Joy Division’s debut LP Unknown Pleasures, another English band emerged with a sound born from the working class - four fabulous young gentlemen from Liverpool.
However, while the Beatles’ sound was a breath of fresh air amongst the austerity of post-war Britain, Joy Division embodied the industrial atmosphere of Manchester, and the elbow grease (and literal grease) that drenched the bodies that inhabited the city. Even if it was never intended to.
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Impossible to choose just one. The album is a masterpiece!
Hannett is the 5th Joy Division member to me
It was decades before I appreciated Peter Hook's bass playing in New Order because I didn't realize that the traditional bass parts on most New Order songs were programmed on computer, and I mistook Hooky's bass parts for guitar.
New Dawn Fades … although I think at one time or another each and every song has been my favorite.
S h a d o w p l a y - is my fav
Just play it all , from beginning to end !
Martin Hannet 100% Genius
Great video. ...New Dawn Fades is my fav
The "middle" of the album: (1) New Dawn Fades, (2) Shadowplay, (3) She's Lost Control .... superb album closely followed by Closer
Disorder is my favourite on Unknown Pleasures
Shadowplay with New Dawn Fades coming second but very close!
If I had to choose I would go for "Disorder"
musicians to music producers are like actors to directors. ... with direction from Martin Hannett like "do it again, but this time, more cocktail party" or "more yellow"..... tbh idk how i'd react to that.
He’s a genius I would hire him for my band
He's dead.
great job Enmore I will always thank you
There is no best track all are best tracks to each person's opinion at certain times in life .the whole album is the best to me whenever it's played no matter what 🕰️
The audio sounds corrupted.
The Album and the band are an statement of future sound, bands even in the 2010's decade the post punk and alternative haven't evoluted since Hannett's Unknown Pleasures.
examples of this are The XX even the album cover is as minimalistic as UP. INTERPOL, BLOC PARTY, MOTORAMA, EDITORS, BEACH HOUSE ETC. Try to listen to many records from 1979 in every genre and they sound like that time but you listen to UP an you may think it was released yesterday.
3:04 That's the aforementioned Synare on 'Insight', not a synthesiser.
Masterpiece
One interesting thing re this album is that the parts, particularly the guitar, were bone-simple. Even I can play them, lol. They definitely kept the 1977-ish punk ethos in that respect. But listening to the songs, it's not obvious at all that the music, technically speaking, was on the Dee Dee Ramone level.
And I WILL be misunderstood by any flat-earthers born 6 months ago who may read this, so allow me to clarify, I LOVE Dee Dee Ramone, I LOVE Sid Vicious, I LOVE 1st-wave very early punk rock.
So true!
No need to defend your thoughts, there's this pervasive though that simple is dumb and bad, which is far from the truth.
There is a real similarity with many JD numbers & the early Ramone tracks that the melody is nearly all bass ( hence I've always loved the mix of Ramones 1st LP where it's possible to fade out most of Johnnys guitar & concentrate on Dee Dees bass)
Unfortunately Johnnys aggressive organisation of the group seemed to include having the Bass swamped by his guitar.
New Dawn Fades is my fav
Day of the Lords....
Masterpiece
Wilderness
New dawn fades
What chorus is used in new dawn fades. Is it boss CE-1?
Ehx Clone Theory.
@@Zezezeze69 do you know what distortion they use?
Interzone is crazy
Interzone
Thumb nail photography by Harry Goodwin TOTP photographer 1964-1973 picture taken at the factory 1979 Curtis asked Harry if he could have a picture for his mother
Shadowplay
Her voice is barely audible. Thanks for the subtitles.
Yeah. Quite ironic that this video is about sound engineering!! Her voice is completely drowned out by She's Lost Control!
Martin Hannett wasn't "fuelled by heroin" when he produced Joy Division.
The level of research done for this video was a little loose, to say the least.
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He sounds like syd barrett. Maybe he has synaesthesia
Music is too loud at points in this video.
S h a d o w p l a y me too
The examples of "such as" songs are not known as Joy Division's masterpieces. I don't know why they were mentioned. The technique of recording each drum individually on it's own track was done elsewhere, such as for Blondie on Heart of Glass.
Sure but it's a very integral part of the production of Unknown Pleasures.
"Hannett was a real life Frank N Furter mad scientist type' (!) - do you mean a sweet transvestite or merely someone that wished to reanimate the dead (Frankenstein) ? .....I don't think either character were sound engineers/ producers .
& he was 'completely whacked but completely brilliant' ?? ... or maybe he realised he could possibly improve the sound of JD & others like OMD that he couldn't with e.g. Jilted John or Slaughter & the Dogs ?...& JDs first records were self productions ....
Candidate
TURN THE 'background" MUSIC up LOUDER !! I can almost hear what yr saying...ffs...
I.like.neworder.and.electronic.neil.lowe.marr.and.god.call.summer
I remember nothing
Jesus Christ ! For a video that's mostly a collection of quotes I'd think the story that it was Ian Curtis that encouraged the 'Hi-tone' bass when rehearing 'as he could clearly hear' ...& who would have thought of putting 'non-musical' elements in the mix .yes I'm being sarcastic ,it was recorded in 1979 not 1959 .
It's noticeable that when 'Atmosphere ' was finally released in the U.K. the bside didn't feature the 'spectral echoes' & other elements that were (mis)used on their debut ....a review of the LP from the time stated " 1979 ..has never sounded more like 1969" .
Would be nice if I could actually hear the narration. We all know what Joy Division sounds like already. Competing volumes render the message nearly worthless.
know what would make this video better is too lower the music in back ground so we can hear you or better yet stop talking over the music.
Overrated. Good, but I'm sure JD would've sounded at least as good if not better under the tutelage of Steve Lillywhite.
You get the award for most idiotic comment of the century. Congratulations, you dumb knob.
Ha ha.
New Dawn Fades
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