Just test the battery and do not plug in the solar because if you are going to be using the A/C while you sleep , the sun is not out. Also, just keep the A/C on low because you would not be using it on high anyway if you are going to sleep .
I powered mine up to 100%, I plugged in a $5,000 BTU window air conditioner and it was pulling about 500 watts or whatever you call it and so the entire thing would last maybe 4 hours if I'm lucky... I'm in Florida and that is absolutely no way that it's going to last enough. I called EcoFlow and they even say don't bother trying to run an air conditioner on it because it's only going to last a couple of hours... Yeah sure during the day maybe you can have it running with solar but at night when it gets hot from the heat of the day you're cooked. You have to really kick it up into a promax with an extra battery to get that 7000 w if you want even a small air conditioner to make it through the night.
Good info here. I have a very similar setup - ecoflow delta, 5k BTU AC unit on a small well-insulated trailer. I have 3x solar panels though. I want to do the same test as you. So many variables will effect this, so I'm actually glad you kept the door open so you could get a continuous number. Assuming it is on 50% of the time, you would likely get more than 7 hours though (3.5x2) because you will have more idle time where the solar panel can attempt to catch-up. Thanks for making this video!
I'm looking at doing this too, I was considering just the Delta, but the ability to expand the Delta max into an off-grid housing setup is really appealing. The delta is on MEGA sale rn but not the same for the max 😭 I know I just have to wait for a discount, but I'm looking at going overlanding in Belize and I need at least periodic AC for my pets.
Here's an FYI everyone... I bought the echo flow Max 2000 specifically for my small window air conditioner here in Florida in the event I lost power during the night... Powered it up 100%... My 8000 BTU window AC killed it after 3 to 3 and 1/2 hours... Next day I powered it up again 100% then tried it with a smaller window unit a 5000 BTU... Well that would last maybe four or five hours if I'm lucky... If you want an air conditioner to run all night with this thing it ain't going to happen. I called EcoFlow and they even said this is not to run an air conditioner on the air conditioners just pull way too much wattage. I'm looking at possibly getting a ProMax with an additional battery so I'd have a total of $7,000 watts so I could run my air conditioner at night and then hopefully be able to recharge most of it during the day through the solar panels.
You need at least 200 watts or better 400 watts of solar power. This will give you the capacity when it is real hot and sunny. And some capacity at night, because it is still hot. But the real capacity is the battery power! The solar just gives you the capacity when you need it most. But not necessarily, when you still need it when the sun goes down.
@@joshlower1 I was talking about mobile portable power. Like van is really just limited to 4 200 watt rooftop solar panels. The storage capacity will be limited as well. 4 to 8 Lifepo4 200 ah batteries.
@@joshlower1 I would like to add, since I'm using mobility power. You can charge your batteries using Victron Energy Orion-Tr Smart 24/12-Volt 30 amp 360-Watt DC-DC Charger Non-Isolated (Bluetoot Victron Energy - Orion-Tr Smart Dc to DC Charger, Alternator Victron Energy
Good info thank you. Just seem that u had everything opened to the outside. Not sure if it would had helped if you had close the doors. Not sure if u did. In the video when you came back doors were open. 🤔
Air conditioners are really demanding on current. They need lots of battery capacity to be effective. But it is never ever good to under current your runtime. So a solar upgrade is definitely necessary to make sure you are ahead of the current needed to keep your air conditioner working.
I bought a conversion van that is equipped with solar panels on the roof and an inverter with a battery that sits inside the van up under my bed frame. I was told that the a/c will run off the solar in lieu of shore power, when needed, however, I can't figure out what to plug the a/c unit into, can you help?
@@ScottsSolarProjects I desperately need your advice! Everyone, feel free to advise me as well. I had 2 men working on the solar system in van. They replaced the batteries with a LiFePO4 12.8V 78Ah and a 12.8V 35Ah 448Wh. They installed a Pure Sine Wave Inverter 12V Input, Power 2500W, Output 120V. I also have a Victron Smart Solar Charge Controller, MPPT 100/30. When the electrician hooked up everything sparks began flying, the system got hot, and he has given up trying to set it up. I have no solar power now in my van, which is my home. Please help! I can't waste any more money and I have no idea what I need. Thank you.
Oh wow, I don’t know why sparks were flying, but you should have more battery bank for that big of a power inverter. Not sure why there are 2 different batteries, good that they’re LifePo4, but seems like a very small capacity. I know wiring up your own setup can be quite complicated. If it’s in your budget and fits your space, I would highly recommend buying a portable power station that is all ready to go - just plug and play! It depends on your needs, but I would recommend a large one like this: amzn.to/3drZcA0 Or this one: amzn.to/3RqXnWy
Would have been nice if you shut the doors. AC might have had time to cool the place down and shut off and then you could have got a real life use test
Yes that would be another good test for that specific camper/weather setting. But, I just wanted to quickly see how long the ac would run continuously. 👍🏼
Good video But wow, that’s horrible Still taking 100W from the solar And it only ran the air conditioner for around three hours And now you have NO JUICE left to run anything else ,
Yes, normally it would cycle on and off when it would hit the set temperature. The number of watts didn't change when you change from a high to a lower setting because the fan itself will use about the same amount of watts whether on low or high speed. The compressor draws the most current when running. The test would be more useful if you set the thermostat for 70 degrees and then closed the door of the trailer. The A/C compressor would cycle off and on and only the fan would be running, drawing less watts. That would be a better test as to actual usage.
If you get a slight more expensive AC unit that has a thermostat, it will shut off and on. Unit that size vs the space, it’d probably only run the compressor 3-4hrs over the full time of sunlight out. Plus just adding 1 more 100w panel would add a lot of added run time available
Yeah it’s also on full blast, 48 degrees Fahrenheit. Running it at 70-75 wouldn’t draw as much power. That’s almost a 30 degree difference and power usage directly correlates with that
Runaway uses the absolute worst, cheapest, least efficient POS air conditioner in there builds. There are numerous much more efficient 5,000 btu units available. Check out Midea brand.
Straight to the point. Wish everyone was like you. Thank you
Thank you for showing it full on, no compressor shut off. Just like here in Phx..
Arizona… a.k.a. the valley of the Sun oven 🥵
Just test the battery and do not plug in the solar because if you are going to be using the A/C while you sleep , the sun is not out.
Also, just keep the A/C on low because you would not be using it on high anyway if you are going to sleep .
Yeah, that’s another test I could run, which would be a more likely scenario. Thanks for the suggestion!
I powered mine up to 100%, I plugged in a $5,000 BTU window air conditioner and it was pulling about 500 watts or whatever you call it and so the entire thing would last maybe 4 hours if I'm lucky... I'm in Florida and that is absolutely no way that it's going to last enough. I called EcoFlow and they even say don't bother trying to run an air conditioner on it because it's only going to last a couple of hours... Yeah sure during the day maybe you can have it running with solar but at night when it gets hot from the heat of the day you're cooked. You have to really kick it up into a promax with an extra battery to get that 7000 w if you want even a small air conditioner to make it through the night.
Thanks for testing it. It's useful data. Can you share the aircon model number? I want to check what is the specification, cooling BTU and Watts.
Very helpful thank you for taking the time to do this.😊
Good info here. I have a very similar setup - ecoflow delta, 5k BTU AC unit on a small well-insulated trailer. I have 3x solar panels though. I want to do the same test as you. So many variables will effect this, so I'm actually glad you kept the door open so you could get a continuous number. Assuming it is on 50% of the time, you would likely get more than 7 hours though (3.5x2) because you will have more idle time where the solar panel can attempt to catch-up. Thanks for making this video!
Thank you. Ecoflow has great sales 2 years later right now Delta 2 now $549.00 wow.
Helpful to see a practical application rather than just the math theory.
Thank you for the info. I was thinking about using a power station to power an AC unit inside a cabin tent.
Exact info I needed! Ty!
Cool. Gonna try this but with the Delta Max, 400 watts of solar and see if I need to add one or more stackable batteries for an off grid setup 🎉
I think that’s awesome, please let me know how it turns out!
I'm looking at doing this too, I was considering just the Delta, but the ability to expand the Delta max into an off-grid housing setup is really appealing. The delta is on MEGA sale rn but not the same for the max 😭 I know I just have to wait for a discount, but I'm looking at going overlanding in Belize and I need at least periodic AC for my pets.
That’s awesome! Sounds like fun!
Can you update me on how that went?
Great demonstration.
Would be cool to see a test without the solar panel plugged in but thanks for a straight forward review
Here's an FYI everyone... I bought the echo flow Max 2000 specifically for my small window air conditioner here in Florida in the event I lost power during the night... Powered it up 100%... My 8000 BTU window AC killed it after 3 to 3 and 1/2 hours... Next day I powered it up again 100% then tried it with a smaller window unit a 5000 BTU... Well that would last maybe four or five hours if I'm lucky... If you want an air conditioner to run all night with this thing it ain't going to happen. I called EcoFlow and they even said this is not to run an air conditioner on the air conditioners just pull way too much wattage. I'm looking at possibly getting a ProMax with an additional battery so I'd have a total of $7,000 watts so I could run my air conditioner at night and then hopefully be able to recharge most of it during the day through the solar panels.
Dude u have too much flawed in ur sentences.
You need at least 200 watts or better 400 watts of solar power. This will give you the capacity when it is real hot and sunny. And some capacity at night, because it is still hot. But the real capacity is the battery power! The solar just gives you the capacity when you need it most. But not necessarily, when you still need it when the sun goes down.
Same conclusion I've come up with using a similar wattage dehumidifier.
Needs 1600 watts minimum
@@joshlower1 I was talking about mobile portable power. Like van is really just limited to 4 200 watt rooftop solar panels. The storage capacity will be limited as well. 4 to 8 Lifepo4 200 ah batteries.
@@joshlower1 I would like to add, since I'm using mobility power. You can charge your batteries using Victron Energy Orion-Tr Smart 24/12-Volt 30 amp 360-Watt DC-DC Charger Non-Isolated (Bluetoot
Victron Energy - Orion-Tr Smart Dc to DC Charger, Alternator
Victron Energy
Thanks , was informative 👍
Low and high is the same thing it just changes the speed of the fan
How is the AC plugged in? I couldnt see the direct plug it connects to while running on the portable power station.
its useful to shut the doors in order to get the timing nore accurate
i think he is trying to cool the earth
Very informative!
This was helpful thanks
Good info thank you. Just seem that u had everything opened to the outside. Not sure if it would had helped if you had close the doors. Not sure if u did. In the video when you came back doors were open. 🤔
Air conditioners are really demanding on current. They need lots of battery capacity to be effective. But it is never ever good to under current your runtime. So a solar upgrade is definitely necessary to make sure you are ahead of the current needed to keep your air conditioner working.
I bought a conversion van that is equipped with solar panels on the roof and an inverter with a battery that sits inside the van up under my bed frame.
I was told that the a/c will run off the solar in lieu of shore power, when needed, however, I can't figure out what to plug the a/c unit into, can you help?
If you want to run power off the solar/battery, then you would plug into the inverter, which is running off the battery being charged by solar. 👍🏼
The outlets are 110v right? What happens if I plug a 220v appliance
Ty for this video
Not sure if I missed it or not, but how many watts was the startup surge??🤔...
Unfortunately, I started recording after I started the AC, so I’m not sure.
How do you get power to the Ecoflow from 30A or 50A campground hookup? Looks like outside plug just powers up the internal power strip.
If you can do a 2nd test ..with the doors closed and the ac with the thermostat on so it cycles and will go maybe 5 hrs? Thanks!!
That would be a good second test, but unfortunately I don’t have that trailer anymore.
Did you plug the ac to a power strip? I tried connecting to the unit and it won’t turn on.
Gotta turn the AC power on on the machine.😊
Does a power station replace the need for batteries, a voltage regulator, and an inverter? Thank you.
Yes, it’s an all in one portable battery with ability to power various devices/appliances that fit it’s rated specs.
@@ScottsSolarProjects
I desperately need your advice! Everyone, feel free to advise me as well.
I had 2 men working on the solar system in van.
They replaced the batteries with a LiFePO4 12.8V 78Ah and a 12.8V 35Ah 448Wh.
They installed a Pure Sine Wave Inverter 12V Input, Power 2500W, Output 120V.
I also have a Victron Smart Solar Charge Controller, MPPT 100/30.
When the electrician hooked up everything sparks began flying, the system got hot, and he has given up trying to set it up. I have no solar power now in my van, which is my home.
Please help! I can't waste any more money and I have no idea what I need. Thank you.
Oh wow, I don’t know why sparks were flying, but you should have more battery bank for that big of a power inverter. Not sure why there are 2 different batteries, good that they’re LifePo4, but seems like a very small capacity. I know wiring up your own setup can be quite complicated. If it’s in your budget and fits your space, I would highly recommend buying a portable power station that is all ready to go - just plug and play! It depends on your needs, but I would recommend a large one like this: amzn.to/3drZcA0
Or this one: amzn.to/3RqXnWy
Can you charge and use at the same time ?
Yeah the station can do that
Now do a video that shows the air conditioner running off of that battery 24/7 with solar assist.
So it won't run all-day even with a solar panel. I want 6 hours or more a day
I think the fan is what’s pulling so much Watts.
How long would it run without solar panel plugged ?
I would guess about 3 hours (~1000wh/~375wh= ~2.66...)
Thanks
Would have been nice if you shut the doors. AC might have had time to cool the place down and shut off and then you could have got a real life use test
Yes that would be another good test for that specific camper/weather setting. But, I just wanted to quickly see how long the ac would run continuously. 👍🏼
@@ScottsSolarProjects ok thanks cause I live in a RV and would like to know if you make another one I'll watch it
I’ll see what I can do. That’s cool! How do you cool it now? And are you thinking of changing it?
@@ScottsSolarProjects I use a 5000 BTU window unit If I set the ac to 64 at night it will stay 64 until i change it but the ac runs constantly
How many watts is your power supply?
The power station is rated for 1800 watts with around ~1k watt hours
The power station is rated for 1800 watts with around ~1k watt hours.
Good video
But wow, that’s horrible
Still taking 100W from the solar
And it only ran the air conditioner for around three hours
And now you have NO JUICE left to run anything else ,
Close the windows and doors. The wattage might go down.
If the ac had an eco mode where the compressor cut off for a while.. it probably run twice as long
Yes, normally it would cycle on and off when it would hit the set temperature. The number of watts didn't change when you change from a high to a lower setting because the fan itself will use about the same amount of watts whether on low or high speed. The compressor draws the most current when running. The test would be more useful if you set the thermostat for 70 degrees and then closed the door of the trailer. The A/C compressor would cycle off and on and only the fan would be running, drawing less watts. That would be a better test as to actual usage.
If you live ina dry climate, a swamp cooler may make more sense
It’s possible the swamp coolers may use a little more energy. But if you’re doing it for off the grid or that other thing. You will use more water.
@@WTF-vv8ic they are more efficient for water they are best at
I'm voting for Donald Jay Trump, he will make the best air conditioners great again!
Gotta get the delta pro 3600, this is weak sauce
How many hours does it last on that 5?
That small of space shouldn’t take long to cool off
Yeah, not at all. If the doors were shut, it’d be chilly in a few minutes most likely!
only 1 hour
Who is going to sleep 3 hours..??... most sleep 5 ... and on days of stay in the bed... so this is nice.. but ain't it... we still need shore power
Relax there mark… just buy extra batts.
Bruuh u stillneed to wake up to change the batt.
If you get a slight more expensive AC unit that has a thermostat, it will shut off and on. Unit that size vs the space, it’d probably only run the compressor 3-4hrs over the full time of sunlight out. Plus just adding 1 more 100w panel would add a lot of added run time available
Yeah it’s also on full blast, 48 degrees Fahrenheit. Running it at 70-75 wouldn’t draw as much power. That’s almost a 30 degree difference and power usage directly correlates with that
Get better insulation, they also make much for efficiency shit to run then this.
Runaway uses the absolute worst, cheapest, least efficient POS air conditioner in there builds. There are numerous much more efficient 5,000 btu units available. Check out Midea brand.
Thanks