Hey, Tom, I caught this bit at about 0:50 where you say the tank sim was in Germany - I thought I remembered it being in Switzerland so I checked the video, and it _is_ in Switzerland.
This is so funny. It really reminds me on the old tank simulator you presented to us earlier. Just done with two men doing all this in a backyard. Fantastic 😊
He could at least visit the training center with the submerged ISS modules, though I don't know how much prior training they require before you even get in the pool, I'd imagine a lot, given how much can go wrong.
@BlueB1C2 I love how in Italian soldi is the word for money in general, while in Dutch the word for military pay is soldij, and in English of course you have soldiers who earn that soldij.
@@stargate525 I know right, this is so marketable. I feel like they could sell the rights to something like this to a large company and live comfy. They deserve it especially at their age after all this work
The best part is, its literally the word "money" bein said that gets him to give that emphatic Siiii!, bcuz the Italian word for money is soldi, which is the last word the other one gets out xD
@@stargate525 I assume the problem with this in theme parks is just that the throughput is way too low. It seems like it needs a minimum of 20 mins and even if theres 4 people in each group thats 12 people per hour who will get a go. It would definitely be a paid extra and probably not a cheap one.
@@walker1054 There were rides like this present at places like Disney Quest. Boats where entire families had to board and were inside for 10-15 minutes shooting at enemies or sailing down a path.
The local zoo used to have something like this when I was a kid that simulated you being a bat and flying around. It was my favorite thing back in the day.
For people from the future wondering: A few days after Tom released this video came news of a terribly built submersible lost out at sea, carrying a few rich ass mfs in it on a supposedly sightseeing trip to the wreckage of the Titanic
I don’t think the titanic incident should overwhelm how incredible this simulator is and Tom’s reaction speaks volumes of how well made this simulator is.
I agree with you completely. Actually, I’m late to viewing the video, so I initially thought the recent news was the reason he had to throw his script out. Glad it turned out that was not the case.
Are you hinting that a hovering submarine might be in the pipeline? Or an underwater hovercraft. Either would be epic. (And no; I have no idea what they even mean either!)
I feel like those are the people that... you know that thing that you always wanted to try but chucked it up for later or as too much work? These people just go for that instead of making excuses and it's amazing.
@AlunB So true. However... I do feel that for projects like this, a certain degree of "Because I CAN" fits into the equation somewhere, too. We don't all have the space, manual and technical skills, or budget for this kind of this thing. Regardless of the amount of 'want to.' Kudos to them still, though; even with all those 'advantages', the best most folks would probably manage is a wine cellar, a home cinema, and at a push a train set in the loft!
These guys put more thought and custom engineering into their backyard passion project than a company charging $250k per person to go on a submarine built using dodgy off-the-shelf products. This submarine simulator probably has more safety checks than OceanGate too
We make a lot of efforts in experimenting with different kinds of redundancy and safety checks. But of course, our is a proof of concept. Everything on our beloved surface is far easier to implement than in the far deep of oceans...
a backyard submarine simulator is a recreational device designed for entertainment purposes. While it may have safety checks in place, it operates within controlled conditions and does not carry the same level of risk or complexity as a real submarine expedition. Comparing the two is like comparing apples to oranges. Each activity serves a different purpose and carries its own unique set of risks and considerations.
@@Pygmyz06 That's the point. More thought went into something that had immensely less risk than the actual deepsea submarine with literally cheap lights from a camping store (and a construction that was never rated for its purpose).
@@OLBastholmut you understand that you are just wrong though right? Like i understand that there were major oversights in the project but you do understand that SEGNIFICANLY MORE WORK went into the actual submarine buisness than the simulator.
I don't know why people are saying this aged poorly. If the timing reveals anything, it's how true innovation is often overlooked, while shoddy tech with slick salesmanship behind it takes in millions. If Stockton Rush was as thorough as these gentlemen maybe he would still be alive.
Or his screen persona is so close to his regular self that he's just like that all the time. The childlike glee really sells it, though. Never grow up, Tom.
Well, he's not saying that this video is off-script. He just couldn't stick to the original script while he was filming the submarine stuff. But his explanation of what happened is separate, and he could very well had prepared for this part in advance.
My dad's job is teaching pilots in simulators. They cost upwards of a thousand dollars an hour to run. And these people run one in the back of an old mill... I'm definitely sending this to him.
Based off your wording, you're referring to FLIGHT simulators, which are FAAARRRRRR more complex than this... Someone who "drives" a submarine is called a "Submariner"
Literally who cares. People get killed all the time with different items like cars, pens, knives, etc, and there are still channels that talk about these things. You just think this because it made mainstream news. It's not that big of a deal.
The fact they built it in some old mill gives it even more of a good vibe. Like, on top of doing it all themselves they are also repurposing old buildings?!! Awesome project.
@@myladycasagrande863 Yep, Italy is absolutely jam-packed with old buildings that aren't really used for anything. Most of them have survived for hundreds of years of weather, corrosion and earthquakes, so they're very stable. It's a good idea to repurpose them.
This should be in a museum. Picture this all properly fancy up, and it's in a children's exhibit at an aquarium. Have to use it to feed the animals occasionally so they want to interact with the strange thing, but it could absolutely work. Those two, I hope they end up with funding they could only have dreamed of, and a chance for us to say, "oh Yha, we saw that, Tom Scott showed us the original".
In Italy? Hahahaha you don't know my country mate. Should they ever be offered funding, I suggest they don't take it because they'd drown in a bureaucratic nightmare and waste 10 years to do nothing and pay lawyers and accountants to get them out of a mess they did not create. Now, if some museum elsewhere, in a functioning country, offers a grant? Then yes, sure. And I suggest they move their residence there or Italy might chase that money still :)
@@c.a.7058 Wow. An Italian openly criticising Italy? This is new. 😂 I agree though, Italy is an amazing country in many ways, but it's got its problems. It would be hard to get somewhere like this started there.
I know how they talked about how this is a proof of concept and how they'd like funding from schools and so on but the fact that the two of them spent years making this in essentially their own backyard is the epitome of "dudes rocks"
Tom is naturally that eloquent. Id be sitting there going “errr… well… um…” and nodding my head whenever anyone said anything. I always find it amazing how tv show presenters and youtubers like tom always seem to know what to say when put on the spot.
Incredible that this is a homebrew project! I'd half expect Marco and Danilo to have a spacecraft simulator built in a shed next door (which, now that I think about it, I would really want to have a go in, and, from Tom's enthusiasm, he might do, too!)
I've been drawing up the plans for a space ship simulator of like this for a while. It'll be computer generated imagery of course, not a webcam in space, but the immersion concept will be the same.
@@Alacritous You might want to look into Empty Epsilon bridge simulator. A couple of friends and I just were having a "space ship" (just 15 laptops, three projectors and a bunch of LED strips) set up last weekend and flew a couple of missions. It's tons of fun! If only we would have a space where we could have a permanent setup, I would so totally build real set pieces and decoration and stuff... But alas, it's only ever temporary, so everything fits into three crates.
These people are true engineers, they wanted to do something that couldn't be bought from the mass market or a public attraction, so they built it themselves. Just amazing what people can do.
This is great that Tom is publicizing these very unknown passion projects. I really do hope some science foundation sees this video and gives them some funding to develop this into what it should become. For a proof of concept, this is absolutely incredible.
Imagine being a local kid there and growing up with the "submarine in the mill". You wouldn't believe it until you got to see it. It's imagination and science and adventure brought to life. So cool.
Local kids wouldn't believe it. Local teens would dismiss it as childish. Local young adults who move away to other places, would ask, "where's your town's submarine in the mill?" and be shocked that no one else in the world has one.
If I recall my childhood properly... I think the 'reactor' bit would be super cheesy. But the instant I realized it was an actual thing floating around in an actual lake with actual salamanders, it'd be upgraded to super cool.
Honestly, the fact that you were so blown away that the script had to go out the window speaks volumes. This is SO COOL!!! This is what gets little kids absolutely nerding out about tech and wanting to go into the sciences! These should be in children's museums across the globe! I could see this fitting right in at the Franklin Institute here in Philadelphia. I am SO THRILLED you covered this. I hope they get the visibility they deserve. Also, I think you need to do a round two... talk about all the bodging required to make something that cool work.
This would be amazing for an aquarium museum! the fact that its presented so amazingly gives you the image that you ARE shrunken down, in a tiny sub, instead of in a booth, connected to a camera.
This looks nice as a science outreach for sure, but imagine this as an escape room! You are locking in a submarine, somewhere in some complicated water. Gather hints, learn how to move the submarine, move the submarine to some dry alien base, enter the alien base room and get more hints there, move back into the submarine and finally leave for dry land! You would need to put the simulation room on some rails so that it can move back a dozen meters to connect to the alien room (instead of the outside room) and of course emergency exits and all that, but this could be very fun.
Theme parks often move the scenery or rooms around the carriage and riders so this is also a feasible option so long as the room is not too big or complicated.
They already had a whole other room built into this one for the "reactor problem", so you just make that the other destination, whatever destination you want, and buh bam.
I like how easy it was to gaslight Tom by showing him a tiny yellow submarine model. this implies that we can absolutely gaslight him into exploring the horrors of the real sea in a scuffed submarine, Iron Lung style, just by showing him that "it's a simulator running in my backyard"... when in reality he's 700 meters below sea level in a OSHA violating metal can.
In the course of filming this video they actually hypnotized him, teleported him into a real submarine and later made him handle a nuclear core with his bare hands and he did not get any wiser from that.
@jerrylim6722 OSHA isn't in Italy, nor the UK, in fact OSHA isn't in 176 countries across the globe. Why do Americans always believe that they're at the centre of the Universe?
@@ruzziasht349But there is equivalent jurisdictions of OSHA in other countries, he probably didn't know what they are called. Bold for you to assume that
@@JavInDaUSA Of course he didn't know, they never do - and there lies my point, you won't see Brits mentioning the HSE (Health and Safety Executive) or the Italians the INAIL ( Istituto Nazionale per l'assicurazione contro gli infortuni sul lavoro) all over the internet.
i think the picture quality on the "main screen" actually adds to the immersion! makes you feel like you're in the *really deep* depths where it's really hard to see and cameras have to make sacrifices to be able to survive the environment
they would not use high latency cameras with so much noise on a real sub. subs might have inferred and almost analogue level low latency cameras for safety reasons
It’s amazing that how a submarine simulator built by a few guys inside a house is more sophisticated than a real submarine which is used to explore the titanic wreck
Because it's all about expectation. This has to sell you the experience on being on a sub and not just a computer game... so it has to have the weird real-looking controls... That other thing had to sell the illusion of being modern, so it used some computer controls...
@@panda4247except if you look at properly designed, survivable submersibles that are already on the high tens of cycles without imploding, you’ll notice this sim looks more similar to those than to that glorified Pringles can/Model 3 hybrid.
Imagine if Stockton Rush invested in this instead. Actually a good business opportunity to create a deep sea-related theme park with various simulated scenarios. Safe and fun.
Their idea to have this in natural history museums is incredible. It would fit extremely well somewhere like Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry or the Shedd Aquarium. Using it to show kids (and adults) the weird world of invertebrates, the bountiful life in water that is so much more than fish, it would be incredible! I would love to see this in a museum. It would need to hold more passengers at a time; maybe give 5 pairs of riders one of the degrees of freedom each?
I think you just captured the true essence of what made us as Italians. We are mostly allergic to rules (I know) and we fell down many times for this (that’s why we invented the biggest shame of history, the fascism, just to deal with it) but we live in a blessed land, we’re surrounded by natural and human beauty, we love life and we feel like we need to pour this passion in something that’s our, out of our craft, made by hand, not contaminated by society that is noisy, ruthless and exploiter. You have no idea of how many little gem projects don’t get out of the garage but I think it’s part of our legacy
I have noticed how often charming and insane garage/backyard projects happen to be in Italy. I've known of several, and this is just another one. It seems really to be true what you say. Makes me want to go on a "Italian Backyard Roadtrip" just to see what could be found!
There are 2 stand out moments from over the years I've watched Tom lose his professional composure on screen. This is one of them. The other was, arguably his greatest moment and one that I shared with him on a deep emotional level, his discovery that he in fact, LOVES roller coasters... I Cried in that video when he did.
This took a tremendous amount of effort and this project deserves whatever funding it should ever need, imagine what blending stuff like this does for realism and education.
There was a science museum for kids in my hometown, and we'd go there once a year to play with all the cool stuff. If they had something like this we'd have gone once a month instead!
@@dudo626 What do you think the odds are of a random commenter on a youtube video having "fund submarine simulator" money just lying around? If you see someone commenting on a video about starving kids in Africa saying that they deserve food, do you respond "if you think they deserve food, then feed them"?
@@helenfhnin No, not really. I never said your family does or doesn't deserve it. It's also not the same thing to donate money as a charity as it is to support a project. You do one out of goodness of your heart, the other one because you like what's being done. I tend to put my money where my mouth is. I like wikipedia, so I donated money. An Adblock, various movements like TeamSeas etc. Things I believe in or are worth for me or the society in a way. Saying that something deserves money/funding/support or whatever but not contributing in any way is just hypocricy.
honestly this would be a FANTASTIC display at a natural history museum. like, set it up so that folks can come see their natural waterways (or a recreation of what the natural waterways SHOULD look like, depending on how polluted the area might unfortunately be), and just let them explore. very cool
When I worked as a Technical Designer at the Boston Museum of Science, on the Charles River Gallery project, I wanted to do a version of this. The Museum sits over, across, the river so the building is in a perfect position to have a controlled camera in the river. Easier said than done, but none the less...
This is like the pinnacle of a "Shut Up and Take My Money" concept. I've always loved the idea of microscale adventures. I remember seeing in walmart years and years ago this fish tank they sold that had a movable scope built into the tank where you could look inside and get a close up view of the fish. Always regret not getting one.
This is such a great idea. Love the dedication they put into it. Having one in a local science museum which can network to different location around the world would be awesome.
As an avid Subnautica player (760 hours of playtime and increasing) as well as someone who has a side-hobby type of casual interest in STEM... This was an absolutely thrilling joy to watch.
I've wanted a Robot Wars clone for years that is just RC submarines fighting in a pool. The audience can see what's going on, but the actual contestants have to use sonar and other instruments. This thing honestly makes me more hopeful something might happen one day.
My last job included designing underwater robot submarines onto which would be strapped shotguns, shaped charges, etc. They could also have nets, ropes, mechanical arms for tearing stuff apart... Robot wars would not be a problem at all!
I'd love this to become a regular feature on the channel - Tom going to see something with little to no research and preparation, just genuinenly reacting to some of the cool stuff he covers much like we, the audience, do.
I love that in this vlog-like storytelling Tom could explain and reflect on the whole experience. The passion and amazement comes across even more this way. There's a little tiny bit of authenticity that I'm sometimes missing when every single detail looks 100% planned out like it could be a TV show. But I don't just watch it for the story, I also watch it because of the person presenting it.
Practical effects never translate well onto a video, but that level of kinetic interaction and undeniable reality about everything you saw is incredible
The look of childlike joy on Tom's face is something I'm sure many of us seek. This was a fantastic video, one of my favorites! The details and experience they built into this was really amazing and honestly the way this was filmed was perfect I think, there were times I felt like I was there enjoying it as well
Haha 15sec from an upload. Tom Scott. Thank you all the fantastic work and make sure to stay both hydrated and happy. Make sure to take breaks and again. Thank you!
They clearly didn't skimp on the "fun" aspect and that in my mind explains how they were able to do this. It might be easy to discard the value of that since so many teams get distracted by it, but just as such it can be a powerful motivator if one cares for more than just it.
oh my god this is actually so freaking cool!! and entirely built from scratch as a passion project?? I've seen actual museum exhibits without as much depth and detail as this! how incredible! edit: additionally, do they have any way for us to donate to their project? I'm sure there are lots of folks here who would love to contribute, even just a little!
Absolutely wholesome. The passion that's been put into this project is really giving of thanks to you going offscript. Truely amazing what 2 men can do.
With Tom being the skeptical type, I don't think he would jump on that submarine knowing how it was built or he might join and immediately leave the moment he saw that controller
imagine youre a rural italian guy and the apocalypse happens so youre out here looking for food in any small abandoned buildings you can find, then you stumble upon this in the middle of nowhere
thats exactly what i thought.. this would be insane to stumble upon.. even more insane if it works. (it likely wouldnt from the Rpi being exposed to water but still )
I love the unpreparedness of the video. It's very good on an occasion to have a complete surprise when the subject matter can be told as such and this is one of those that fit perfectly. Loved it, like the enthusiasm of the builders too.
If Tom can be so surprised by this, just imagine how much is still in the world that we don't know about. Sure there may not be new lands to discover on earth, but there are always new people making cool things.
I love these kind of smart fools who have an idea and spend thousands of hours making it real ! And gosh I'd love to explore real ponds this way, anywhere in the World. It looks like something the Futuroscope, a technology Dynamic movies theme Park in France could build for public.
@@queueeeee9000I'll alter the OP's statement and say I hope that guys find the reach they want for getting this design and concept to the wider public
Thanks to everyone at Explorandia: I hope, despite my lack of preparation, that I've managed to share at least some of the magic of what you've done!
He back doing main tasks guys
Hey, Tom, I caught this bit at about 0:50 where you say the tank sim was in Germany - I thought I remembered it being in Switzerland so I checked the video, and it _is_ in Switzerland.
This is so funny. It really reminds me on the old tank simulator you presented to us earlier. Just done with two men doing all this in a backyard. Fantastic 😊
I'm not affiliated with it, haven't even played it. But I would say dwarf Fortress is one of those amazing projects that People have created
Don't give him ideas
At this point it’s just a countdown for when Tom will go to space.
He could at least visit the training center with the submerged ISS modules, though I don't know how much prior training they require before you even get in the pool, I'd imagine a lot, given how much can go wrong.
Tom is weak.. I mean he passed out in 3.5g.
@@sankang9425 nothing training cant fix.
@@sankang9425 Which is more than most space launches generate so he should be fine.
i mean he did do a video in low earth orbit once. like i get what your saying but he did do that
Omg that enthusiastic "SIIIIIII!" with a hearty thumbs up killed me. These dudes definitely need to be funded.
and at the moment the word "soldi" (money) left his mouth
Siiiiiii!
Then... fund them? Put your money where your mouth is.
9:35
@BlueB1C2 I love how in Italian soldi is the word for money in general, while in Dutch the word for military pay is soldij, and in English of course you have soldiers who earn that soldij.
@@Hirosjimma That's not by accident, it's because of the origin of the word from Latin.
Marco: ”I didn’t understand that bit”
Danilo: ”He said ‘If someone wants to give us money’…”
Marco: *stares at camera* ”Siiiiiiiiiiii” 😅
When they showed the feed turning on my thought was immediately that there HAS to be a market for this in theme parks as an 'open world' dark ride.
@@stargate525 I know right, this is so marketable. I feel like they could sell the rights to something like this to a large company and live comfy. They deserve it especially at their age after all this work
The best part is, its literally the word "money" bein said that gets him to give that emphatic Siiii!, bcuz the Italian word for money is soldi, which is the last word the other one gets out xD
@@stargate525 I assume the problem with this in theme parks is just that the throughput is way too low. It seems like it needs a minimum of 20 mins and even if theres 4 people in each group thats 12 people per hour who will get a go. It would definitely be a paid extra and probably not a cheap one.
@@walker1054 There were rides like this present at places like Disney Quest. Boats where entire families had to board and were inside for 10-15 minutes shooting at enemies or sailing down a path.
timing is everything
Imagine if Tom had released this video about a submarine after the Titanic situation
Came back here to say exactly this
I saw this title and immediately thought he was gonna talk about it. But just 7 days off
imagine if this simulator was steered using an logitech game controller
@@arnilsso luckily this simulator probably more expensive than the actual titan sub
@@aceman0000099 the simulator also seems to have a lot more thought and engineering put into it than the Titan
Tom Scott: "My videos will probably come back to haunt me in a few years' time."
Well he was half right...
If someone had told us we could not believe it.
In a few days 💀
This is the second time his timing are impeccable. Remember his Tower Bridge video, and a day later the bridge got stuck and made the news ?
@@nuke211We should dub this the Tom Scott Phenomena, he somehow gets there before the headlines
@@murphyggHow do you know he's not the cause? 🤔
People that have passion can go beyond what you expect
Yep.
Let's just say I lack skills in anything that's not related to cars..
@@jwalster9412 if you casn generate skilles for cars you can get skilles for other satuff
Copy paster
Never underestimate a rural Italian with a shed older than his great grandad and a dream
This would fit in so naturally at one of those interactive science museums for kids.
Yes! Especially if it was an actual mini submarine that you can see go around the pond, I think that would be extremely cool!
this would make aquariums significantly more fun
The local zoo used to have something like this when I was a kid that simulated you being a bat and flying around. It was my favorite thing back in the day.
Take it a step further and go full Magic School Bus and shrink down and explore inside of a human body
for kids? I'd love to have a go on this!
It's lovely that after all these years, sheer fanboy joy can still make a dent in Tom's professionalism.
Agreed, and wouldn't want it any other way!
Here's the thing though: that enthusiasm IS a part of Tom's professionalism.
And we wouldn't have it any other way.
This aged… interestingly
For people from the future wondering: A few days after Tom released this video came news of a terribly built submersible lost out at sea, carrying a few rich ass mfs in it on a supposedly sightseeing trip to the wreckage of the Titanic
In simple terms: Submarine went moobak
Hi people from the future!
Damn
3 days later it went missing 💀
I don’t think the titanic incident should overwhelm how incredible this simulator is and Tom’s reaction speaks volumes of how well made this simulator is.
it doesnt, the bug people just enjoy spamming about it
@@shoeofobama6091"the bug people"???? Is there an alien invasion going on in your brain?
100%. I really hope I can do this someday, it’s cool as hell.
Can’t wait for a miniature spaceship simulator, that’s simulated with a tiny camera that is hooked to the ISS in real life
that might honestly be doable. cubesats have used electrolysis to generate rocket fuel after launch.
@@tjeulink You have to make the rocket fuel out of something, which you have to lift to orbit. Still a tiny enough spaceship could be cheap
smallsats are definitely a thing, it's possible to get stuff into space.
In the mean time, before the real space-cam: Artemis Spaceship Bridge simulator
I'ld like to see a moon-web-cam we could all control
You can really tell this blew him away. I think he's even more excited here than the time he was literally strapped to the top of an airplane.
...waitwhat
Or that time when he flew by flapping his arms
@@Hirosjimma lmaoo
Or the jetpack experiments
I think this is a joke.
The guys hoping to get kids engaged makes this thing feel like a real life Magic Schoolbus. And I'm here for it.
that was my immediate thought too!
holy crap youre right XD
please let this be a normal- oh actually this feels quite amazing i thoroughly enjoy this mrs. frizzle.
That's it exactly! Fantastic.
🥴🥴🥴🥴
So glad Tom was able to put out this video before recent events...
Absolutely!
I agree with you completely. Actually, I’m late to viewing the video, so I initially thought the recent news was the reason he had to throw his script out. Glad it turned out that was not the case.
@@sanachanto same
All Titanic jokes aside - this is an incredible project with a hell of a lot of passion behind it.
truly, how inspiring
As far as potential, this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Between this and the guy who makes hovercraft in Japan, I am amazed how much folks will build out of passion.
Someone built Car henge. Passionate folks will do a lot.
Are you hinting that a hovering submarine might be in the pipeline? Or an underwater hovercraft. Either would be epic. (And no; I have no idea what they even mean either!)
"Because I want to" is a HUGELY powerful motivator.
I feel like those are the people that... you know that thing that you always wanted to try but chucked it up for later or as too much work? These people just go for that instead of making excuses and it's amazing.
@AlunB So true.
However...
I do feel that for projects like this, a certain degree of "Because I CAN" fits into the equation somewhere, too.
We don't all have the space, manual and technical skills, or budget for this kind of this thing. Regardless of the amount of 'want to.'
Kudos to them still, though; even with all those 'advantages', the best most folks would probably manage is a wine cellar, a home cinema, and at a push a train set in the loft!
This has SO much potential for science museums. Super cool.
Yes! We are super sure (we only need a museum super sure too)
Yep
These guys put more thought and custom engineering into their backyard passion project than a company charging $250k per person to go on a submarine built using dodgy off-the-shelf products. This submarine simulator probably has more safety checks than OceanGate too
We make a lot of efforts in experimenting with different kinds of redundancy and safety checks. But of course, our is a proof of concept. Everything on our beloved surface is far easier to implement than in the far deep of oceans...
a backyard submarine simulator is a recreational device designed for entertainment purposes. While it may have safety checks in place, it operates within controlled conditions and does not carry the same level of risk or complexity as a real submarine expedition.
Comparing the two is like comparing apples to oranges. Each activity serves a different purpose and carries its own unique set of risks and considerations.
@@Pygmyz06 That's the point. More thought went into something that had immensely less risk than the actual deepsea submarine with literally cheap lights from a camping store (and a construction that was never rated for its purpose).
@@Pygmyz06you completely missed the point there
@@OLBastholmut you understand that you are just wrong though right? Like i understand that there were major oversights in the project but you do understand that SEGNIFICANLY MORE WORK went into the actual submarine buisness than the simulator.
I don't know why people are saying this aged poorly. If the timing reveals anything, it's how true innovation is often overlooked, while shoddy tech with slick salesmanship behind it takes in millions. If Stockton Rush was as thorough as these gentlemen maybe he would still be alive.
I can barely even tell he's off-script, he's just that good at presenting
The park bench style of videos works well
Or his screen persona is so close to his regular self that he's just like that all the time.
The childlike glee really sells it, though. Never grow up, Tom.
honestly, editing does a lot here too
Well the tank Sim was in Switzerland not Germany. Which is the only mistake I’ve noticed.
Well, he's not saying that this video is off-script. He just couldn't stick to the original script while he was filming the submarine stuff. But his explanation of what happened is separate, and he could very well had prepared for this part in advance.
My dad's job is teaching pilots in simulators. They cost upwards of a thousand dollars an hour to run. And these people run one in the back of an old mill... I'm definitely sending this to him.
Let us know his reaction!!
Let us know yes!
I too really wonder his reaction to this!
Based off your wording, you're referring to FLIGHT simulators, which are FAAARRRRRR more complex than this... Someone who "drives" a submarine is called a "Submariner"
@@I_Crit_My_Pants Yes, they're flight sims. I'm not sure that a flight sim is more complex than a sub sim - they are both 3D.
Seeing Tom go off script and be completely giddy is the best way to start a day. 👍
The fact that someone like Tom, who’s seen and done a lot around the world, can still be surprised and delighted makes me so happy.
Now simulate a billionaire who hates safety regulations
Just cut half the wires in the back and youre set
😭😭😭
That's all of them
@@GerinoMorn☝🏻
Simulate is the wrong verb. I prefer implode.
is this horrible timing or incredible timing
Yes
Great for the algorithm
The latter as I note he dropped this 10 days ago.
Literally who cares. People get killed all the time with different items like cars, pens, knives, etc, and there are still channels that talk about these things. You just think this because it made mainstream news. It's not that big of a deal.
incrororrible
Next episode: " They put me in a welded-shut submarine in a blood ocean on a forgotten planet after all the stars have gone out".
Ah, yes, Iron Lung, a great game
@@drageex and not terrifying at all.
"I'm inside an ocean of blood and I'm not exactly alone."
Can't wait for Dorney park to add an Iron Lung Halloween experience.
@@blakksheep736 ok? really have to be mad about everything do you
The fact they built it in some old mill gives it even more of a good vibe. Like, on top of doing it all themselves they are also repurposing old buildings?!! Awesome project.
Probably cheaper than building from scratch.
@@myladycasagrande863 Yep, Italy is absolutely jam-packed with old buildings that aren't really used for anything. Most of them have survived for hundreds of years of weather, corrosion and earthquakes, so they're very stable. It's a good idea to repurpose them.
I wouldn't say repurposing. That's just a regular building in Italy.
This should be in a museum.
Picture this all properly fancy up, and it's in a children's exhibit at an aquarium. Have to use it to feed the animals occasionally so they want to interact with the strange thing, but it could absolutely work.
Those two, I hope they end up with funding they could only have dreamed of, and a chance for us to say, "oh Yha, we saw that, Tom Scott showed us the original".
In Italy? Hahahaha you don't know my country mate. Should they ever be offered funding, I suggest they don't take it because they'd drown in a bureaucratic nightmare and waste 10 years to do nothing and pay lawyers and accountants to get them out of a mess they did not create.
Now, if some museum elsewhere, in a functioning country, offers a grant? Then yes, sure. And I suggest they move their residence there or Italy might chase that money still :)
@@c.a.7058 Wow. An Italian openly criticising Italy? This is new. 😂 I agree though, Italy is an amazing country in many ways, but it's got its problems. It would be hard to get somewhere like this started there.
I know how they talked about how this is a proof of concept and how they'd like funding from schools and so on but the fact that the two of them spent years making this in essentially their own backyard is the epitome of "dudes rocks"
Tom is naturally that eloquent. Id be sitting there going “errr… well… um…” and nodding my head whenever anyone said anything. I always find it amazing how tv show presenters and youtubers like tom always seem to know what to say when put on the spot.
Incredible that this is a homebrew project! I'd half expect Marco and Danilo to have a spacecraft simulator built in a shed next door (which, now that I think about it, I would really want to have a go in, and, from Tom's enthusiasm, he might do, too!)
I've been drawing up the plans for a space ship simulator of like this for a while. It'll be computer generated imagery of course, not a webcam in space, but the immersion concept will be the same.
@@Alacritous If you haven't already, take a look at Space Nerds in Space
@@Alacritous You might want to look into Empty Epsilon bridge simulator. A couple of friends and I just were having a "space ship" (just 15 laptops, three projectors and a bunch of LED strips) set up last weekend and flew a couple of missions. It's tons of fun! If only we would have a space where we could have a permanent setup, I would so totally build real set pieces and decoration and stuff... But alas, it's only ever temporary, so everything fits into three crates.
Their cabling is so delightfully chaotic!
So many colors, so few zip-ties.
These people are true engineers, they wanted to do something that couldn't be bought from the mass market or a public attraction, so they built it themselves. Just amazing what people can do.
This is great that Tom is publicizing these very unknown passion projects. I really do hope some science foundation sees this video and gives them some funding to develop this into what it should become. For a proof of concept, this is absolutely incredible.
Why would you use a sub simulator instead of just simply pay $250k to take a Home Depot sub down to the bottom of the ocean
Because there is a chance the home depot sub may fail and you die. I don't think that has ever happened...nowait
@@0xf7c8the controls looked easier on the home depot sub though.
I hear that a few positions have recently been made available for someone with your way of thinking... Good luck 🤿
The lightning was from camping world, spared no expense
@@craighalpin1917 Only if you're not a 50 year old white guy tho
Not surprise to see another submarine where Logitech hardware is being used
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@@aaronbailey1406more like 💀💀💀💀💀
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This thread is as dark as the bottom of the ocean
At least this one is just a camera, not a controller for the movement of the whole sub.
Imagine being a local kid there and growing up with the "submarine in the mill". You wouldn't believe it until you got to see it. It's imagination and science and adventure brought to life. So cool.
Local kids wouldn't believe it.
Local teens would dismiss it as childish.
Local young adults who move away to other places, would ask, "where's your town's submarine in the mill?" and be shocked that no one else in the world has one.
Super magical :)
If I recall my childhood properly... I think the 'reactor' bit would be super cheesy. But the instant I realized it was an actual thing floating around in an actual lake with actual salamanders, it'd be upgraded to super cool.
Honestly, the fact that you were so blown away that the script had to go out the window speaks volumes. This is SO COOL!!! This is what gets little kids absolutely nerding out about tech and wanting to go into the sciences! These should be in children's museums across the globe! I could see this fitting right in at the Franklin Institute here in Philadelphia. I am SO THRILLED you covered this. I hope they get the visibility they deserve. Also, I think you need to do a round two... talk about all the bodging required to make something that cool work.
Reveling in the multiple meanings of my newest verb: to bodge. Seriously, electromechanicals are so rarely seen with pond scum.
That was really classy of those guys to let you take the captain's seat, and just jump right into the service roles without a fuss.
This would be amazing for an aquarium museum! the fact that its presented so amazingly gives you the image that you ARE shrunken down, in a tiny sub, instead of in a booth, connected to a camera.
Tom has a time machine. Now we know it.
Tom's time machine😊
so glad Tom Scott is short enough to fit in the tiny submarine in a tiny world
Like Alice in Wonderland.
This looks nice as a science outreach for sure, but imagine this as an escape room!
You are locking in a submarine, somewhere in some complicated water. Gather hints, learn how to move the submarine, move the submarine to some dry alien base, enter the alien base room and get more hints there, move back into the submarine and finally leave for dry land!
You would need to put the simulation room on some rails so that it can move back a dozen meters to connect to the alien room (instead of the outside room) and of course emergency exits and all that, but this could be very fun.
Or put a door on the opposite side of the room?
Theme parks often move the scenery or rooms around the carriage and riders so this is also a feasible option so long as the room is not too big or complicated.
They already had a whole other room built into this one for the "reactor problem", so you just make that the other destination, whatever destination you want, and buh bam.
Reminds me of the game called Nauticrawl.
I quite literally did an escape room that is almost that exact plot, only with a “underwater research base” room next door you “dive” towards.
I like how easy it was to gaslight Tom by showing him a tiny yellow submarine model. this implies that we can absolutely gaslight him into exploring the horrors of the real sea in a scuffed submarine, Iron Lung style, just by showing him that "it's a simulator running in my backyard"... when in reality he's 700 meters below sea level in a OSHA violating metal can.
In the course of filming this video they actually hypnotized him, teleported him into a real submarine and later made him handle a nuclear core with his bare hands and he did not get any wiser from that.
@jerrylim6722 OSHA isn't in Italy, nor the UK, in fact OSHA isn't in 176 countries across the globe. Why do Americans always believe that they're at the centre of the Universe?
@@ruzziasht349But there is equivalent jurisdictions of OSHA in other countries, he probably didn't know what they are called. Bold for you to assume that
@@JavInDaUSA Of course he didn't know, they never do - and there lies my point, you won't see Brits mentioning the HSE (Health and Safety Executive) or the Italians the INAIL ( Istituto Nazionale per l'assicurazione contro gli infortuni sul lavoro) all over the internet.
Maybe let’s not do that now…………..
Charge some billionaires a quarter million bucks, blindfold them, take them here and show footage of the titanic
Save some lives for sure
Hilarious!
@@ITSecurityNerd or you could put the control room in a trash compactor, to complete the experience
That wouldn't be as fun or helpful to society, though.
@@OLBastholm 5 people being smushed into goop isn’t exactly fun or helpful to society
Tom should go off-script more often. It gives us a sense of the excitement that he's feeling when he's feeling it. I love it!
Turns out this simulator has a more complex control than an actual sub
I noticed the HOTAS too.
i think the picture quality on the "main screen" actually adds to the immersion! makes you feel like you're in the *really deep* depths where it's really hard to see and cameras have to make sacrifices to be able to survive the environment
they would not use high latency cameras with so much noise on a real sub. subs might have inferred and almost analogue level low latency cameras for safety reasons
UA-cam recommendations has a sense of humour
It’s amazing that how a submarine simulator built by a few guys inside a house is more sophisticated than a real submarine which is used to explore the titanic wreck
Ouch. Sad but true.
For those who are interested. You should look at the physics behind carbon fiber when used in compression vs tension.
Because it's all about expectation.
This has to sell you the experience on being on a sub and not just a computer game... so it has to have the weird real-looking controls...
That other thing had to sell the illusion of being modern, so it used some computer controls...
@@panda4247I mean, to be fair this sub didnt come near the pressures of the other sub, which did work a few times.
@@similar_username but to be fair, this was never intended to do so (and sold to the customer as such)
@@panda4247except if you look at properly designed, survivable submersibles that are already on the high tens of cycles without imploding, you’ll notice this sim looks more similar to those than to that glorified Pringles can/Model 3 hybrid.
Imagine if Stockton Rush invested in this instead. Actually a good business opportunity to create a deep sea-related theme park with various simulated scenarios. Safe and fun.
And educational. But… nah, it’s really a sociopathic billionaire thing, they need that… rush every now and then.
- How much immersive you want your simulation ?
- Yes.
Agreed
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@@VarenRoth 🐙
Literally immersive in this case
Siiiiiii! 👍
Their idea to have this in natural history museums is incredible. It would fit extremely well somewhere like Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry or the Shedd Aquarium. Using it to show kids (and adults) the weird world of invertebrates, the bountiful life in water that is so much more than fish, it would be incredible!
I would love to see this in a museum. It would need to hold more passengers at a time; maybe give 5 pairs of riders one of the degrees of freedom each?
I think you just captured the true essence of what made us as Italians. We are mostly allergic to rules (I know) and we fell down many times for this (that’s why we invented the biggest shame of history, the fascism, just to deal with it) but we live in a blessed land, we’re surrounded by natural and human beauty, we love life and we feel like we need to pour this passion in something that’s our, out of our craft, made by hand, not contaminated by society that is noisy, ruthless and exploiter.
You have no idea of how many little gem projects don’t get out of the garage but I think it’s part of our legacy
I have noticed how often charming and insane garage/backyard projects happen to be in Italy. I've known of several, and this is just another one. It seems really to be true what you say.
Makes me want to go on a "Italian Backyard Roadtrip" just to see what could be found!
Same with why there are so many incredible Italian car companies!
This may have aged interestingly
Ironic
@@drabberfrog *Titanic
^(sorry)
There are 2 stand out moments from over the years I've watched Tom lose his professional composure on screen. This is one of them. The other was, arguably his greatest moment and one that I shared with him on a deep emotional level, his discovery that he in fact, LOVES roller coasters... I Cried in that video when he did.
This took a tremendous amount of effort and this project deserves whatever funding it should ever need, imagine what blending stuff like this does for realism and education.
There was a science museum for kids in my hometown, and we'd go there once a year to play with all the cool stuff. If they had something like this we'd have gone once a month instead!
If you think it deserves funding, then fund them.
@@dudo626 What do you think the odds are of a random commenter on a youtube video having "fund submarine simulator" money just lying around?
If you see someone commenting on a video about starving kids in Africa saying that they deserve food, do you respond "if you think they deserve food, then feed them"?
@@dudo626Hey, do you think my family don't deserve to die of starvation? Then send me money for food right now.
@@helenfhnin No, not really. I never said your family does or doesn't deserve it.
It's also not the same thing to donate money as a charity as it is to support a project. You do one out of goodness of your heart, the other one because you like what's being done.
I tend to put my money where my mouth is. I like wikipedia, so I donated money. An Adblock, various movements like TeamSeas etc. Things I believe in or are worth for me or the society in a way.
Saying that something deserves money/funding/support or whatever but not contributing in any way is just hypocricy.
honestly this would be a FANTASTIC display at a natural history museum. like, set it up so that folks can come see their natural waterways (or a recreation of what the natural waterways SHOULD look like, depending on how polluted the area might unfortunately be), and just let them explore. very cool
I loved “You’re not allowed to introduce the newts”, like they need an entourage to help them make an entrance 😂😂😂
The newts do as the newts please.
"With a Logitech webcam on it."
So it's an authentic submarine.
9:10 I didn’t realise that Logitech were so prevalent in the world of Submersibles…
Next thing they'll tell you even the pilot was from Logitech 💀
I just love seeing Tom in absolute awe and having so much fun
When I worked as a Technical Designer at the Boston Museum of Science, on the Charles River Gallery project, I wanted to do a version of this. The Museum sits over, across, the river so the building is in a perfect position to have a controlled camera in the river. Easier said than done, but none the less...
if you still know someone there send them this, let them know it is being done and it might be cheaper to implement then they fear
This is like the pinnacle of a "Shut Up and Take My Money" concept.
I've always loved the idea of microscale adventures. I remember seeing in walmart years and years ago this fish tank they sold that had a movable scope built into the tank where you could look inside and get a close up view of the fish. Always regret not getting one.
This is such a great idea. Love the dedication they put into it. Having one in a local science museum which can network to different location around the world would be awesome.
Yes, the technology is now ready for that.
As an avid Subnautica player (760 hours of playtime and increasing) as well as someone who has a side-hobby type of casual interest in STEM... This was an absolutely thrilling joy to watch.
I've wanted a Robot Wars clone for years that is just RC submarines fighting in a pool.
The audience can see what's going on, but the actual contestants have to use sonar and other instruments.
This thing honestly makes me more hopeful something might happen one day.
My last job included designing underwater robot submarines onto which would be strapped shotguns, shaped charges, etc. They could also have nets, ropes, mechanical arms for tearing stuff apart... Robot wars would not be a problem at all!
Apparently this actually happened, it was called Depth Charge: Underwater Robot Challenge. Haven't been able to find any footage though.
I'd love this to become a regular feature on the channel - Tom going to see something with little to no research and preparation, just genuinenly reacting to some of the cool stuff he covers much like we, the audience, do.
I love that in this vlog-like storytelling Tom could explain and reflect on the whole experience. The passion and amazement comes across even more this way. There's a little tiny bit of authenticity that I'm sometimes missing when every single detail looks 100% planned out like it could be a TV show. But I don't just watch it for the story, I also watch it because of the person presenting it.
At least this submarine won’t get lost
Practical effects never translate well onto a video, but that level of kinetic interaction and undeniable reality about everything you saw is incredible
The look of childlike joy on Tom's face is something I'm sure many of us seek. This was a fantastic video, one of my favorites! The details and experience they built into this was really amazing and honestly the way this was filmed was perfect I think, there were times I felt like I was there enjoying it as well
Haha 15sec from an upload.
Tom Scott. Thank you all the fantastic work and make sure to stay both hydrated and happy.
Make sure to take breaks and again. Thank you!
They clearly didn't skimp on the "fun" aspect and that in my mind explains how they were able to do this. It might be easy to discard the value of that since so many teams get distracted by it, but just as such it can be a powerful motivator if one cares for more than just it.
Honestly, I think this is really cool as even just a camera you can drive. Adding in the immersive effects makes it just amazing.
"immersive" i see what you did there
I know a CEO who would love to retroactively do this.
would have*
@@aratof18 If I said "would have", it wouldn't be retroactive, would it.
*knew
@@chainzsawmaster If I said "knew", it wouldn't be retroactive, would it.
Woah don't @ me, boss.
I cannot express how much I love projects born out of passion. What an absolutely amazing invention.
oh my god this is actually so freaking cool!! and entirely built from scratch as a passion project?? I've seen actual museum exhibits without as much depth and detail as this! how incredible!
edit: additionally, do they have any way for us to donate to their project? I'm sure there are lots of folks here who would love to contribute, even just a little!
Absolutely wholesome. The passion that's been put into this project is really giving of thanks to you going offscript. Truely amazing what 2 men can do.
Thank God you didn't join the Titanic Submarine
THIS IS UNDERRATED
With Tom being the skeptical type, I don't think he would jump on that submarine knowing how it was built or he might join and immediately leave the moment he saw that controller
*Titan submersible
this is amazing, it's hard to imagine how much work has gone behind this. These two guys are truly and passionate
This has just made me want a tiny submarine to explore ponds with.
imagine youre a rural italian guy and the apocalypse happens
so youre out here looking for food in any small abandoned buildings you can find, then you stumble upon this in the middle of nowhere
thats exactly what i thought.. this would be insane to stumble upon.. even more insane if it works. (it likely wouldnt from the Rpi being exposed to water but still )
Logitech somehow keep becoming involved with submarines it would seem
Probably if logitech had been able to choose, it would have preferred to be associated with our dreamy project than with their tragedy.
This is so spectacularly cool that just knowing about it makes me a bit happier.
analogue simulators are my new favourite genre of Tom Scott video
I love the unpreparedness of the video. It's very good on an occasion to have a complete surprise when the subject matter can be told as such and this is one of those that fit perfectly. Loved it, like the enthusiasm of the builders too.
This submarine simulator is built more solid than some other recent submarines I've been hearing about.
If Tom can be so surprised by this, just imagine how much is still in the world that we don't know about. Sure there may not be new lands to discover on earth, but there are always new people making cool things.
"I didn't understand that..."
".....money"
"YES!""
unscripted yet still easily one of the best tom scott uploads hands down. this was such a fascinating watch
I love these kind of smart fools who have an idea and spend thousands of hours making it real ! And gosh I'd love to explore real ponds this way, anywhere in the World. It looks like something the Futuroscope, a technology Dynamic movies theme Park in France could build for public.
I was raised on the idea that passion and effort can move mountains. These folks are really something else.
At 9:40 dude heard money and was all in, i love this man's vibe
That might be the best thing I've seen. Not built to make someone a billionaire, but just to be as good as they can make it. Legends
this would work well in so many places, like at national parks to show local ecosystems to tourists, or even fancy escape rooms, or aquariums even.
Amazing. The attention to detail is insane. Hats of to them.
9:11 he said the word , he said logitech .
Talk about timing .
To see people with a similar passion project out there doing it and being appreciated for it gives me inspiration to keep going.
To read all that nice and warm feedbacks give us the same!
With this timing, imagine him releasing a "How would a nuclear war look"
These guys deserve to be successful.
I hope they achieve it
Who's to say they aren't already? Like Tom said, this is a passion project. Probably more of a hobby for them, rather than entrepreneurship
@@queueeeee9000I'll alter the OP's statement and say I hope that guys find the reach they want for getting this design and concept to the wider public