The Daimon and Astrology
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
- In today’s video, I’m sitting down with Cat from the Creative Introvert and answering some questions on the topic of the daimon and how it shows up in ancient astrology and philosophy, and what place it might have spiritually.
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Anthony Peake has an amazing book called The Daemon. According to him, Split brain experiments have been done showing that we have two daimons: one in the left brain that participates in our daily life and one in the right brain that speaks to us via hunches and intuition. He also talks about Philip k Dick who had extraordinary experiences with what he termed VALIS. Anthony Peake explains this very nicely in his book, highly recommended. Thank you for sharing.
I've read this Kate! Super interesting theory, and I love all the stories he shares (like the Percy Shelley one - gave me chills!)
Ill have to check that out thank you. Phillip K. Dick was such an amazing writer, so prophetic ✨✨🌌
I really like how the daimon was depicted in 'The Golden Compass' movie. Referring to what you said about it being an ambivalent character, in the movie the consciousness and awarness of a person was primarily shaping how the daimon developed over time. Thank you for the video. Sending love
oh how cool seeing cat being rather new to the daimon topic and now having out a whole book, and making it one of her specialities!
The parallel that you made between the daimon (spirit guides, angels, or all beings in spirit or human form that show up on our paths at certain times to lead us to somewhere) and how to find it in the chart was excellent! The lamp went on and I could see the daimon (beings) in particular placements in my chart. Saturn Rx /conj SN in my 12th house Gemini. Venus Rx conj Jupiter in 8th (Aquarius). Sun cazimi Mercury in 7th in Capricorn. Moon in Cancer in 1st. All these placement have their very specific flavour and I can see all of them as an expression of my daimon ( spirit guides...) Thank you again Acuyta and Cat, yet another wonderful talk! My daimon rejoiced and my soul was singing :))) Thanks!
Great conversation and appreciated him boiling it down to "Your the quality of your consciousness really matters first" ....It is not the thing it is what you do with it.
I recently watched Dorian Greenbaum’s speaker series on the Diamon. Great lecture series. I’ve been asking spirit for integrity regarding my anger with Mars fallen in Cancer in the 3rd. I ran across Clair Nakti’s you tube on the Vedic Nakshatra Purva Bhadrapada. May not be for most people but I felt this helped Clarify for me freedom of will and chosen restrictions of integrity. It felt like a guide got me to this channel to answer some of my questions.
Claire Nakti’s videos on the nakshatras are incredible - the level of detail is so illuminating.
I’ve got a full 12th house so plenty of leading myself astray...
ionamcbrid I love her imagery even as in this video it’s dark. Neptune is in this nakshatra now. Nakshatras are seen through sidereal stars so is in Aquarius. She talks about Saturn and iron. It’s ruled by Jupiter. So another Jupiter/Saturn image might be All the Bikes at Sturgis. .
It seems to me that the full synthesis of the natal chart is the daimon. But for a more useful conversation the juncture between the Dharma of the ascendant and the lunar nodes will show the daimonic path.
Thank you so much! Much appreciated. My Daimon, shows put the brightest when I ask for something new, in my artwork. I'm visited during dreams and given symbolic images that are somewhere between abstract and something recognizable and always spiritual.
I've never heard of the diamon but I agree that spirit guides are many and varied appearing at different points of spiritual development
thank you very much for the past teachings! congratulations to all of you!
Love synchronicity- was just listening to ‘The Soul’s Code’ as I was working and this popped up. Great conversation- lots of food for thought
Wow, this interview was so interesting. I didn't know that the "beings" that sometimes guide us are known as daimon. But I also think they could take the form of a human being or an animal; a message in a book, a movie or a song; a moment outdoors; a spiritual figure. Sometimes you get the feeling that you already knew the message, like it was forgotten. So, I agree with someone who's also left a comment here saying that these insights may come from within ourselves.
This also reminded me of the yōkai in Japanese folklore. The etymology of daimon is amazing.
I'll definitely read The soul's code. Thanks again. Bye! 🥰
Thank you! I think “The Soul's Code” will be my next read. Sounds fascinating...
The souls code was probably my first spiritual read.
This is good stuff! Thank you both🙏 I think that we've all had the experience of setting an intention, and running away from it, only to return later. For me, it feels like a switch is flipped. I see God as viewing the world as difficulty agnostic, and so that's why we can take as long as we want to get where we're going.
I gained connection and access to my daimon when I asked a deity, in my case Hekate, to link me up, it was successful and my life has changed dramatically since. Prior to invoking Hekate about this connection with my daimon I had an awakening brought by a muse... so I think the daimon sent my muse to wake me up... then I got deeper into spirituality and connecting with spirit, connected with higher divinity: ie: Hekate, and received communion with my daimon. So It’s my opinion that you can connect with your daimon by invoking higher divinities and asking them for help.
And I found out later that Hekate is considered “the queen of the daimons” so that was very exciting to discover
the daimon is within (it is the inner guide calling you onward... just projected outward as some 'other') some souls will be clueless forever
Thought the Arabic parts
Part of Spirit was the point of the daimon
I was under the impression that the daimon was also the spirit guide who was more like the trickster or even the voice of temptation or the little devil in the image of when one has a little angle and a little devil on his shoulder, whispering things to him, you know?
Anyway I had read this I cant remember where.... but that that is why the "daimon" is often confused with with "demon"...but in depth, it is more like the voice calling you to live the " desires " of your ego and heart so that you can overcome them, and it will eventually lead you to the true self ..... but it may take you through a difficult path, or some tragic thing, because it may be exactly that, that your soul needed to evolve....
If the sun in one’s birth chart is in the 12th house does that automatically mean that they have a “bad” daimon? Or that the bad daimon speaks louder?
No! :) that would be a bummer...but it can be a difficult place where one has to meet or face ones demons ...often amazing spiritual experiences come from such encounters!
Acyuta-bhava Dasa Thank you ✨🙏🏻
Would money be considered a daimon? Money's spiritual counterpart. I've read someone put it this way and it rang a bell for me.
I believe that I have been here before and chose to come back now and learn lessons. Will I come back? What if I don’t want to come back? Or is it inevitable?
This is most important you must ask the universe using al the LAWS and the daikon is like your personal genie & protector program
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It’s inside of you connect to the divine
Another awesome discussion. My understanding of Lot of Spirit is our choice - is more like consciously directed intention subject to the fated timing (zodiacal release), most especially as pertains to outwardly directed events such as career. Lot of Fortune is more fatalistic - "what befalls you" - especially regarding health and fortune. So I am not sure if that would be the Daimon as there is that fated timing component. I see the Sun as the conscious will and intention being strived for and how we self identify - and express that energetically - it is our inner light. The ASC as the motivation to carry out that will, Mars as the drive serving the will regardless of the Sun's sign, and the Moon as the unconscious knowing - the Soul of the self. Sun Moon relationship would be showing a lot about the compatibility of the Soul and the conscious will? I am reminded of the Bible : "Be still and know that I am God". I guess that would be the inner spark of the diving mentioned that we see in Christianity. I mention it because when we are not filled with busyness and can get out of ourselves through silence I think we are more tuned in - we are receiving information from the unseen intelligence.
I have a signal ( an image behind my back) that comes to me that started appearing after a life threatening illness when I called for my guides as I was truly "on my knees" and the daddy in the sky interventionist God concept/image I was raised with utterly failed me. I consider the image I see as an angel speaking to me, showing he/she/they are with me. They are playful - they seem to enjoy when I am outside - maybe that is when I am more consciously connecting - not sure. It comes at no prompting from me - most often when I am walking outside in nature and thinking or observing. There is this response and then I know I am heard and seen. Sometimes it is faint sometimes a very big energy and it makes me laugh because it takes me by surprise. I always say hello and recognize what it is. It is a relationship of sorts. I feel utterly guided, even with a 12th House Pluto ! I mention Pluto because The Evolutionists see Pluto as an indication of inherited karma and the Soul's evolution, and its placement in the chart shows what that is. Hidden in the 12th, the soul is seen to trust in itself completely as it is giving no obvious clues there - it is far away. I was told this years ago in a chart reading by astrologer Jeff Green, who created the school of evolutionary astrology. This is what I remember him telling me about this.
Any recommendation for books about Spirit animals? I see a class in the making. I will sign up. For years I dreamt I was a wolf. Sometimes he was separate from me. I have only seen one fox in my life and I feel they are utterly beautiful. He was red. So it sounds like we have multiple ways of seeing the Daimon - of it showing up in our life. ; - ) all for that.
I'm a bit lost on this topic, even after listening to your fascinating dialog. So, where do we find our daimon in our charts? Is there a way to identify the daimon in our charts or do we look elsewhere?
Savvy Lady Me too, but very interesting talk. I would also like to know how to locate it in the chart 🙏
It's in your ketu or the south node opposite of ur north node or rahu.
So if we know most outcomes by our chart. How do we have free will.
We always have free will..🦝🦄💚
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Maybe u do. Saggie raising with saturn in cap. In first house and rules 2nd. I never felt as though I had a choice..the hand of god pulling me along.😇😇💙💙😇😇
We know some outcomes and others we don't
@@margorowe9052 I think whether you have more free will or not depends on the chart. So I think the whole free will vs determinism debate is a bit misleading. I dunno, I could be wrong haha.
I feel like what Kat is saying is that we continue to repeat or end our karmic cycles based on our free will choices we make...?💫😀
Is the daimon like Q in Star Trek?
I think tha tmy daimon points are 1 - n node/uranus midpoint 2 n node/ neptune midpoint nd 3 n node pluto midpoint. Mine are all 30 degrees apart form each other. n node/Pluto 2- virgo n node/neptune 2 libra and n node/uranus 26 leo 7 degrees from my n node/ pluto midpiont. i feel that degrees of 30 are progressive and follow life changes in your second half of life. I became to rely on my own automatic writings for my descoveries at by late 40s. Im rarely a follower of anything else. Neptune was getting opposite my Sun by that time. the 7 degrees away or n node to my uranus /pluto means a early awakening but no fully and a troubled subconscoius mind with issues coming up often - very awkward young man I was. hey, I sill an lol lol
For the monotheist religions the middle thing between the person and God is the church, mosque etc. I guess.
There are angels in the Judeo Christian tradition....and I think the same is true for Islam??
The Angel Gabriel is definitely mythicised in Islam though the religion does take a lot from the Judaism and Christianity. But it was subjected to Greek and other Pagan influences as well, especially in Syria that still has a Greek/Arab population. And of course there's the Ginn or genie.
Sunni Islam is a bit dry and tends towards orthodoxy but much of Shiah Islam is really interesting because of its belief in the 12th and secreted Imam that will return with Christ. Despite Iran's authoritarianism, its main figure Sayeed Ayatollah Khomeini believed in the 12th Imam. The Shiah also acknowledge planetary influences, in a spiritual sense rather than in a fortune telling sense.
I think a physical building like a Church is easier to perceive as a connection with God than an internal power like a daimon. That's if I understood you properly.
One interesting thing is the word for always or evermore in Arabic is daimon (obviously a transliteration), so thought there might be a connection. The Arabic language is loaded with meaning and vocabulary comes from all sorts of ancient languages.
Is this the path of being eaten by the snake?
It's proven you can only fit 4 angels can dance on the head of a pin.
There supposedly is a good daimon (agathosdaimon) “good spirit” and a bad daimon: (kakodaimon) if you research “daimon” historically and that would be obviously (to me) what Hitler had... following his bad daimon and creating a huge dangerous egregious to boot... on another note if you would like to ritually celebrate your daimon you would on the second day of the lunar month, called, “Agathos Daimon” : it is the day after “Noumenia” (which is the day after the new moon each month.)😊
“Egregore” (sorry spelling was off)
Yes, more a trickster
Could you tell me where I can read more about the Agathos Daimon. I'm interested because I have a night chart, with Saturn in the 12th house, the house of the bad Daimon and I've certainly experienced misfortune after being deceptively abused. However, I was born with a new moon, a day following a full solar eclipse. I've woken up spiritually and found forgiveness.
@@libra247 Most interesting chart! That eclipse is so much part of your story before and after birth, and your natal New Moon chart is your actual natal chart! 12th H is a mysterious placement as Saturn loves the darkness there. He "joys" in the 12th house according to Hellenistic astrology. Kelly Surtees has a lecture on Saturn in the 12th and a class this Saturday the 15th Aug expounding on that. One takes one's respite from the world very seriously. It is also called the house of hidden enemies and perhaps that is because it is the house of self undoing. It can play out in so many ways. If we have a daemon we are not conscious of than the would be bad spirit? The deception you experienced is not necessarily that Saturn. In the case of my husband it was his hidden depression and many secrets, and an intense need for great deal of alone time for his music. In the case of a friend of mine she discovered the true identity of her father in her 50's after being lied to for her entire life. So that would be deception. Saturn is the father in her night chart.
@@jem2250 I was abandoned by my father when I was 12 months old which I believe is a signature of Saturn in the 12th house. I would agree with Kelly, about taking my respite from the world very seriously. I didn't realise I was that different in that sense, until an astrologer kept talking about this rich inner world I have. I would also agree with the self undoing. I discovered my husband was my hidden enemy, as he would probably be diagnosed as a malignant narcissist and my innocent and naive new moon couldn't make sense of the red flags, even though they were very present. I don't really understand the significance of the eclipse yet, in terms of how it fits in with my story. I've learnt that I'm very resilient and I have the capacity to put the past behind me without carrying any bitterness or resentment forward, which also sounds like you. Thank you for the tip on Kelly's up and coming lecture and for your reply.
Why is it selfish to learn about yourself through astrology?
Its not