Pushing My CNC to Its Limits! How Fast Is Too Fast?
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- How fast can a Hobby CNC run? Ryan pushes the limits of his Onefinity Elite Foreman to see what feed rate his beginner CNC can handle.
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So to clear it out, you have a CNC that is tracking each step on the stepper motors (feedback) so when you hit the first problem in cherry and it skipped a step it stopped the program. This was also the same time when you should have known that the bit is stronger then the stepper motors since it lost a step. (aka nothing is breaking). Looks like a really great and strong bit and I think the worst you can do to the bit is running it to slow so it rubs and gets to hot and after that it would probably break before the machine lose steps. Anyway great show and the OnefinityCNC clearly shows it has enough power for a hobby CNC. As long as you don't modify the max current to a motor I would not expect anything on the machine to break except maybe a bit.
I would agree, that closed loop system really helps! I do worry about some slight damage when doing it over and over again though.
Greatness! One of the few "woodworkers/CNC Woodworkers" on YT that actually WORKS & SHOWS vs Promoting nonsense!!
I salute you Sir 🫡
** Hang it on the side wall! Gotta keep the back wall looking clean! 😉 **
Thank you! What other CNC Woodworker works and shows? I would love to do a collab with them.
@@cutting-it-close I would say Carbide3d definitely works & shows, but idk if they’re gonna do a collaboration with a Onefinity man! 😉
And I’m open to ANYONE/COMPANY who just works & shows & only promotes themselves, their work & their products.
Kinda like you…. This video (today) was greatness, & the only thing you even promoted was your own bits…. That YOU make/made & sell. Just for that alone earns my respect. Though I can understand why some channels do it, I don’t respect it, cause whatever happened to LOYALTY in this country!?! If you promote another product & tell me to go purchase such & such from another Company/Corp (whatever) & it isn’t worth a dang, or it break (or whatever the case maybe) then who does it look bad on!?! But that right there brings me back to the original point of "Loyalty"!! You (hypothetically) get a kick back (money, promotions, sponsorships etc etc) for me buying something that doesn’t even work, last, hold up, or just an overpriced POS (whatever), that you promoted & said it would was good, but now who I’m mad at/upset with!?! YOU! Though there are some out there that flat out don’t care that I got took, cause they still got theirs. Heck there’s even some on here that will go & buy & donate for their own personal gain too. They’ll go buy/donate to some people, but it’s all done on video showing what good moral people they are too…. While those videos are some of the most watched/liked (interacted with) videos too…. Which equals more $$$ for that content creator.
And I Don’t mind or care whatever ANYONE wants to do really, but don’t be a hypocrite about it saying you’re one way all while doing another. That’s what I CAN’T STAND!! But I was raised different…. He!! I was raised (& still believe) & taught that when you do something for someone, you give/donate to them, you don’t say a word about it…. Nowadays we have people on video doing it claiming to be holier than thou. But whatever I guess…. What do I know…. Nothing!
I know you didn’t ask about all that, but my favorite rule to live by is "Thy Own Self Be True"…. 80% of the world ain’t living that way… which is sad to me, but whatever I guess!
The new bits look awesome!
Thank you, they can handle alot when I use them in the shop!
Man that is awesome. I wish I owned a cnc machine that could run that fast. However, I never would use it at that speed, but the bit is what really impressed me the most. I have got to have some of these bits!!
Thank you, not the most practical speeds, but it does show what they are capable of! Let me know how the bits work for you!
All that is happening is the steppers supplied with the Elite are erroring out. Masso doesn't even sell those steppers to the general public. Add the 2Nm or 3Nm steepers even with the 36v power supply and you could cut at those speeds.
Great video! Next video: Running bits through aluminum at different feed rates
i dotn think that machine can hadle alum
@@fatfishdesignzllcbrass and aluminum are no problem for this machine
@@fatfishdesignzllc Even tiny 3018 machines can handle aluminum. Aluminum and brass are soft metals.
The Onefinity CNC certainly didn't brake! The spindle cannot keep up with the power of the Onefinity! The spindle stalled.
I have to assume this machine has closed-loop steppers, right? That's how it was able to stop when the load was detected as exceeding some threshold. My machine, which I built based on the PrintNC open source design, currently has open-loop steppers, so I'm pretty sure mine in a similar stress test would have snapped the bit (hopefully embedding into the wood and not becoming a projectile, but good call on wearing your eye protection) and then continued along the path. My machine is definitely more rigid than the one you're using here, so I gotta say it's eye-opening to see how much faster I could be pushing it through wood than I have been, and that roughing bit no doubt is playing a key role in that too. Thanks for running this test and sharing the results!
You’re welcome, I hope you learned a ton!
Industrial CNCs regularly run at 100+ IPM cutting aluminum. Even my tiny 3018 CNC machine can handle 100 IPM cutting wood. Wood is easy, you can really push the machine.
What I’d love to see is more dynamic cuts. Doesn’t have to be as fast, but let’s cut some shapes. Let’s see elite handle direction changes.
Wow! I was even feeling nervous!!
This machines pretty hard to break. I just got a brand new one, and me being new to CNC’s accidentally shoved my PWN spindle straight through the wood because I didn’t zero out after bit changes. My heart dropped, but was genuinely surprised nothing broke except the wood of course.
It is Sunday correct……..That was very impressive even though I already knew it could do 1,000ipm due to your livestream. Let’s try it with some arch cuts and find out when it breaks. You have me almost to the point where I want to purchase one.
Yes, It took a little longer than usual to get this edited, we will be back to Saturday postings next week! I use those bits in the shop on a daily basis, they can handle anything I have been able to throw at them.
Back wall that's crazy!!!
Impressive bits! Great video as usual man!
Thank you, hope I helped you out in some way, shape, or form!
@@cutting-it-close Do you ship in Europe as well? Wanna try them out!
Squirelly haha! That is impressive. Awesome video.
I vote hang both panels on the back wall.
This is pretty wild!! What was the RPM of the spindle? Was it the same for all the tests?
What failsafe in the one finity was tripping the stop?
Great video! (And Thumbnail too) I’m not brave enough to test my machine like this 😂
you crazy man!
Wonder what it would do to HDPE?
@@cutting-it-close love to see at what point edge quality goes away, and if that bit will gum up or are you coming out with some plastic bits?
@@fatfishdesignzllc Yes, O'flutes are coming soon
Time to turn up the servo drive current!
find as many different types of wood as possible, build a "collage" feature wall on the side set behind all your hooks
maybe neaten up the the speed rate by carving out and filling with some black resin
That would be sick!
Upgraded from my original 2020 Woodworker to an Elite Foreman last month and about to finally put it together this week. Thanks for breaking your machine so I don't have too! Are these chipbreaker bits you've designed for hogging out material only, or also for smooth finish too?
Its finish has tiny lines, a little bit of sanding is needed, but man it’s nice!
@@cutting-it-close Noted! I'll order one to add to my ATC lineup.
It’ll be worth it, reach out if you have any questions, we use it daily inside the shop
What is actually new other than calling these roughing end mills "gold digger"? Titanium nitride coated serrated roughing end mills have been around for about 40 years. They produce a rough surface finish that must be cleaned up, usually with a finishing end mill. They are commonly used for cutting aluminum and steel, not wood.
Nothing other than he's trying to sell them as his own brand. Wait until he learns about DLC and TiAlNi coatings.
Yes, every bit has been around for years, I have been using roughers in my shop for quite a while now. Having a rougher in a 1/4 inch is new to woodworking. Also adjusting the rake, and the tooth face of the bit so that it leaves as little tear out as possible on wood and reduces the upshear force on the upcuts have taken me a long time to figure out which works best. You guys seem to know a lot about bits, so you should know not all bits are same. They can both be 1/4 upcut finishers but depending on multiple different geometries of the bit, they will perform different.
Can it go 1,500 ipm without any wood there?
Too bad you couldn't check the temperature of the bit with each test as well.
I did, it got hot after 800 ipm and onwards, I think it was due to the vibrations of the machine though!
So what did break or mess up at the end when you ran it at 1500? You never said in the video
It ended up tripping the X-Axis servo motor, the machine still runs though!
Really cool video, but why on earth would you stand in that position during these tests…
Had to do it for the angles, have to create a good video for you guys! haha
Hang it on the side wall!!! Nice job
What CNC is that and how much does it cost? It doesn't look like a hobbyist machine.
Looks like a Onefinity Elite Foreman CNC machine with the PWNCNC Watercooled spindle upgrade. About $4000 for the CNC and another $900 for the spindle kit.
Correct @Vintauri
Sadly, my machine can’t travel faster than 200 ipm. And it never runs even close to that speed.
What machine do you have?