its girly? you need a reality check. come play one minute of US football, you would get ruined. rugby, I love it, does not measure up. nothing is US football.
In 1905 (and for decades previous), American football, an evolution of rugby, was solely a college (and, by imitation, high school) game-which is, incidentally, one of the reasons that the college game, with traditions pre-dating the NFL, is more popular. It featured mass-collision plays and no solid rules about when a ball was dead, leading to piling-on, nor rules about unsportsmanlike conduct. A team strategy might be to pummel the best guy on the other team. In 1905, the Chicago Tribune reported nineteen deaths and 137 serious injuries, calling the sport a 'Death Harvest'. Schools like Cal and Stanford were banning the sport in favor of rugby, and President Roosevelt-whose sons played and who liked the game-called a committee of coaches and other important people in the game to establish safer rules. The President had no statutory nor constitutional power to do anything about it, but we're talking about Teddy Roosevelt here. Anyway, the result was far closer to the modern game, making the forward pass legal, putting that neutral zone between the offensive and defensive lines, and myriad other changes. At the same time, getting the game away from play after play of mass brutal crunching through (or, occasionally, literally being thrown over) the line thanks to the forward pass and some other plays turned out to make for a much more exciting game. The protective gear was minimal. Stiff leather helmets that look like they were mainly to protect the ears, nose-guards and mouth-guards that were of dubious help (even the coaches seem to have wondered if they were useful), and soft shoulder, elbow, and knee pads. And that was it. It did not change immediately when the 1906 rules came into effect.
Then president teddy Roosevelt was involved with trying to make American football safer. 1905 the Chicago tribune newspaper reported 19 deaths on the field. This brought the introduction of the forward pass and pads.
11:14 Just because play stops doesn't mean there is nothing going on. American Football is 75% strategic and situational. It's like Chess. Rugby players are like 1500m runners and AF players are like sprinters.
This is spot on. The players aren’t expected to create some moment of brilliance on their own. If they score it is generally because they executed a scripted play to perfection. You are an actor with a specific role and if you can’t perform it, the scene. Even better, the players only play one side of the game(offense/defense). Can you if they had to play a sport where you had to play both aspects of the game? Someone might die of exhaustion.
Additionally each play is like a 5 to 10 seconds fight with bats. Players need that 5 to 10 second break just to catch their breath and adjust their padding. Rugby players have a continuous fight but they don’t get to use their bodies quite as much as weapons. Both are very tough sports. Add in the Ozzies and the Irish versions and you have complete mayhem. You will now never see the kind of hits you see in the NFL and any other sport and the pads only help to a limited degree when a 250-300 pound plus man hits another at speed.
I lived overseas for years and always used the chess match analogy. Every play is a strategic battle of the minds followed by an attempt to physically execute these decisions.
@@bryanjacobsen5005 better way to put it is chess with rocket launchers. There is so much strategy to football, but at the same time you can write up the greatest play ever, just for Aaron Donald to show up and say "your plans don't mean shit if I run through 3 motherfuckers and kill your QB". All this planning and for a sport where the second to second gameplay devolves into "Ok no go run through that motherfucker". Thats the real beauty of American football
The Detroit Lions are seeing their first major success as a franchise in about 30 years right now. They're a solid team to cheer for. The underdog that has finally become a threat. This is from a long-time Lions fan
No the stopping in American football is not just about advertisement. The strategy behind the game is very complex and specific plays are called in from the coaches. Then the QB can change the play based on how the defense lines up. This takes time.
17:46 Less than 1% of college players get drafted. The NFL is an elite league and even if you are drafted, you'll still have to earn your place on the team. The roster starts out with 90 players but has to be cut down to 53 by the start of the season.
The Cleveland Browns and the Detroit Lions are 2 of the few teams who not only have never won, but never even MADE it to a super bowl. There is a chance that changes this season as the Lions and Browns are both VERY good and have a chance of making it to the bowl
"Soccer" was originally a British term referring to the players, short for "association footballer", back in the days when it had to be distinguished from "rugby football". "Football" was a catch-all term for ball sports played on foot (as opposed to horseback like polo).
As far as not stopping between plays goes, for a while in the 1990s that was a popular style of offense (most widely known as the "Run'n'Gun"), where offenses would run plays as quickly as they could, not giving the defense time to adjust or catch their breath without burning time outs. It also proved to have a massive weakness: It meant your defense was out on the field for a LONG time (unless the other team was also playing "hurry up"). If you couldn't score point and force the other team to keep pace, your defense would be GASSED and easy pickings in the late stages of the game. Now, teams only break out the "hurry up" in spots; usually in the second half when they have to make up a significant point deficit.
Technically yes, a team could intentionally lose games to get a higher draft pick. But what prevents that is the players and coaches don't want to look like crap and lose their jobs. Players and coaches change teams all the time. If they play terrible, even as part of a plan to intentionally lose games, then no one else will ever want to sign them, so if they ever get cut or released from their current team (which happens a lot), then they will be out of a job.
That said, if a team is neck and neck with another for bottom of the barrel, it isn't unheard of to put minimum effort into (or keep a key player out of) the last game or two.
A big thing about football that non fans don't see at first is that the reason for stoppage between plays is because the game is structured as just as much of a strategy game, as it is an athletic game. The stoppage between plays allows for different sets, and personnel. Every play is basically equivalent to a move in chess. Including calling plays (making moves) to set up plays (moves) in the future. A lot of plays are being called with plays 2-3 plays in the future in mind.
The funny part about him crapping on Detroit is they are now the best of those 3 teams with a legitimate playoff shot and could possibly make the superbowl now those are a lot of big “if’s” but stranger things have happened
Some teams “tank” to get good players, but investigations are thorough enough and would be punitive enough that it’s rarely if ever obvious, the players still want to win so they still play tough games even if some people are trying to hold the team back.
The basic need for the helmets is the difference between the start of plays. In rugby, the players and teams are shoving each other after connecting up, in American football the play is started while the players are apart and then charge each other (at the line) crashing heads. Physics. The stopping makes it like a chess match where every piece moves on every turn.
The stopping… best understood by realizing American football is about the precise execution of a single carefully planned play. So it’s not about continuous action where complex plays are not attempted and if they are they fall apart. Think about how many soccer/hockey/lacrosse passes don’t go as planned, this the result of constant motion and endless ongoing motion.
The stopping is because each play starts with preset formations. While Rugby keeps moving, they are not always going all out. Each player is going full out, each play. The percentage of game play with 100% effort is much higher for football.
The reason for the stops is because once the guy with ball is tackled the play is over and they have to line up again to begin the new play. Its not just a constant running down the field. Theres strategy and planning with each play
I think one reason that tanking for draft picks isn't such a problem in the NFL, is that you've got 11 players on offense and 11 more players on defense, plus substitutes, kickers, etc, and every single one has an impact on the game, though at some positions this is really only obvious when they suck. So even a really legendary player won't win a championship by himself, and the annals of history are filled with great players who just never had the teammates to win much.
It's actually the other way around. As football became popular, the TV networks jumped on board and the nature of the game lends itself to commercials during the game. And i want you to consider just how little energy is expended in a soccer game per player. I know they run miles per game but thats just running. Even on a scoring play, how players are involved and for how long. In contrast the energy expended by almost every player on almost every play in the course of a game provides the reason why its not a continuous play type game. The need for rest, rotation, and medical attention.
NFL football is about choreographed 'plays'. That's why all the breaks. Each team's playbook can have hundreds of plays. The team lines up and attempts to execute 'the play'. The defense has plays as well. To answer your question: yes. Teams can 'tank' a season in hopes of landing higher draft picks.
The atmosphere for an NFL game is a lot better then for a premier league game because most of the spectators are sober and for half the season it’s freaking cold in many other venues. Additionally there may not be public transport and people have to drive sober.
Allow me to educate you about the use of equipment in American football. Over 100 years ago, they did not wear equipment. Because of that, there were a few deaths and so many serious injuries that the president of the United States threatened to ban the sport. Upon hearing the possible ban, the sport administrators decided to make changes to the rules and added equipment as a requirement. ...So before call American football "girly", please understand that American football was much more violent than rugby even before they began using equipment!
The reason why American Football has so many stops is to reset and to communicate new plays. It is literally a chess match going on in real time using real people instead of pieces. As brutal as it is you are constantly trying to outsmart your opponent on every level
The best part of NFL is the strategy it entails, the whole team is needed not just individuals. Strategy is so much fun then add in skills, athleticism and just pure luck. Plus the heavy heavy hits. It's a great sport
@11:30 as many commercials as they do have they only have 2 times each quarter they do stop the game to jam in a couple extra. The rest of them are during actual slow points in the game. Like switching possession or between quarters or when someone gets hurt. Team calls a timeout, that sort of stuff. The start stop is just the nature of the game. It's the same in the NFL or if you are playing in the back yard with your buddies.
All three of those teams had bad head coaches at the time in that video especially Detroit had an actual bum for a head coach because at the time there new clueless gm fired a good head coach that was already there and replaced him with an actual bum. Thankfully that cost that incompetent gm to get fired along with his terrible head coach and they were replaced with people that actually know football and made the Detroit Lions not disgusting to watch.
About all the stopping. You have to look at it as a game consisting only of set plays. So its set play, break, set play, break, set play, ect but instead of all corners or free kicks it done to actually progress the ball
The shoulder pads are 3 layer's of high impact plastic like a car bumper. That's what you put all your speed and weight behind to time a hit to the ribs or chest. It's cute that foreigners think they are soft pads for protection. They are weapons. He's right Brits came up with the word soccer. They stop to call complicated plays. The play is made in all positions so it's chess game of inches. FYI we have rugby here too, 900 teams just in college alone so we are familiar with the game. Lol
If you want underdogs you can't beat Cleveland. The mistake by the lake !!!! A river there once caught FIRE 🔥. This team eats good players for breakfast.
15:22 Yep! That's what's refered to ask "tanking." Essentially it means the coaches and owners have realized the team is going to actively sucks, and so they use the rest of the season to experiment on different strategies instead of winning to try and get the best pick possible. Usually there's at least three or four teams by the end of a season that find themselves in a race to the bottom and depending on who actually does well in the league things can get CRAZY.
Also, if your team REALLY sucks for a long time it's common to see whats called a "rebuild." Essentially that means the owners fire all the coaches and potentially the gm, then they bring in a new coach to build a team of new talent from the ground up based on their ideas and strategies (in extreme cases, fans will get so upset with the team that the owner has to sell the team). This usually involves having multiple tank seasons (or just underperformances) in a row, and often trading away good players that are aging to try and get more/better draft picks. Teams that are doing really well in a particular season will sometimes scoop top talent off of bad teams to try and put themselves over the edge to win the championship. You'll often hear that referred to as a teams "championship window:" meaning the couple of seasons where a teams talent and coaching lines up to where they can truly contend for a championship before their stars age out of their prime. The Lions are actually a prime example of this rn. They are a historically awful team, so bad infact that like 4 years ago the owners sold the team and the new owners brought in a new first time head coach named Dan Campbell (a former player for the lions who has become lovingly known as MCDC - Motor City Dan Campbell) and the first thing they did was trade their franchise quarterback to a different team which one the super bowl that same year while the lions went 1-11. The next year they got a little better with fresh talent out of the draft. The next year they looked good! Last year they stomped on the reigning champs in the first week of the season, won a playoff game for the first time in 30+ years, and for the first time ever made the conference championship game. Now this year they look like the best team in football and it looks like the only thing between them and a superbowl championship is some key injuries the defense has suffered (but their coaching has been awesome and they're still dominating without some of their best players).
The reason soccer isn't popular and the reason the US usually isn't all that great at it is because all the really good athletes switch to playing either basketball, football, or baseball when they get to high school. Soccer is played by kids all over the country but as they get older they usually start focusing on one of the other 3 sports.
The game stops generally after every play. Instead of a scrum in rugby you huddle up and call the next play, so everyone knows their job on the play. A no huddle, or hurry up offense is the exception. Of course the play can always be changed at the line of scrimmage based on the defensive alignment. Think of it like a chess game with 10 teammates all moving at once, every move requires cordination. In soccer or rugby it's a marathon, you pace yourself looking for a gap to explode. In the NFL every play is a 100 yd. sprint or a sumo wrestling match for the linemen.
with the NFL draft, you are correct, the draft picks go in reverse order of teams success last year. teams do occasionally do poorly intentionally for good picks, we call it “tanking”. in the nba draft on the other hand, there is a draft lottery for the teams that missed the playoffs where all of them have a chance to win the first overall pick (with the odds following the order of the NFL draft)
Theoretically you can tank , but the variables aren't really worth it . Can't miss products, miss sometimes and also you need much one then just one player.
Yes there are several teams that have never won a Super Bowl: Jacksonville, Carolina, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Arizona, Detroit, and Houston are all examples of this.
There are 12 teams that have never won a Superbowl. 8 that have been but lost... Minnesota Vikings (4) Buffalo Bills (4) Cincinnati Bengals (3) Atlanta Falcons (2) Carolina Panthers (2) San Diego/ Los Angeles Chargers (1) Tennessee Titans (1) Arizona Cardinals (1). There are 4 teams yet to make it to a Superbowl... Detroit Lions, Cleveland Browns, Jacksonville Jaguars, Houston Texans.
The NBA has the same draft rules as the NFL and what you're describing is called tanking. It's a real problem in the NBA, but in the NFL you can't go less than 100% or you will get seriously hurt. It's self preservation that prevents tanking in the NFL. Something no other sport outside of fighting really has.
Sometimes I think the coaches tank with bad playcalling, but the players are still trying to win. They might not give their best players much playing time down the stretch.
7:30 (pause it) top left to bottom right are the, Buffalo Bills, Baltimore Ravens, Texas Texans, Denver Broncos, Texas Cowboys, Chicago Bears, Atlanta Falcons, Arizona Cardinals, Miami Dolphins, Texas Colts, Kansas City Chiefs, New York Giants, Detroit Lions, Carolina Panthers, Los Angeles Rams, New England Patriots, Cleveland Browns, Jacksonville Jaguars, Los Angeles Chargers, Philadelphia Eagles, Oregon Ducks, New Orleans Saints, San Francisco 49ers, New York Jets, Pittsburgh Steelers, Tennessee Titans, Oakland/Las Vegas Raiders, Washington Redskins/ Washington, Minnesota Vikings, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and Seattle Seahawks. My team are the Oakland/ Las Vegas Raiders
So funny story about the Jets and the Draft. A few years a go the Jets were projected to get the number one pick in the draft. This draft having Trevor Lawrence who was slated to be the best quarterback coming out of college in a long time, (literally nicknamed "The Prince that was Promised). However in a hilarious twist of the Jets being the Jets, they one the last game of their season, losing that first pick in the draft. They then watched my favorite team (Jacksonville Jaguars) draft Trevor Lawrence. So to put it bluntly, only the Jets can lose by winning.
15:22 There is, occasionally, a "race to the bottom" in order to gain favorable draft status the following season. This is particularly true when there is a singular, spectacular talent in the college ranks who plays a position many teams might potentially need - generally, a quarterback. Betting the future on a single player is a high risk strategy which frequently backfires. Even if a quarterback is a generational talent, sending him to a team which is otherwise utter garbage, probably won't work. If his blockers are horrible, he'll get killed. If his receivers are slow and can't catch, it doesn't matter how strong or accurate his arm might be. If his running backs can't shed tackles and fumble the ball every third touch, the quarterback will have an unbalanced offense - and thus will be easier to defend. If the defense is terrible and concedes 40 points per game, the quarterback could conceivably have a spectacular season, and still lose every game. Successful teams scout and develop talent within the confines of the salary cap. Yes, certain players will make crazy money and out-earn their teammates many times over. But owners have to balance the need for high spending on superstars with the need to have enough cash left under the cap to pay enough to attract and keep all the necessary role players happy. That's why certain teams do well, and others struggle - in spite of rules designed to foster parity.
Play calling is reason for stoppages after each play. It’s not freestyle running out there like Rugby. There’s specific runner routes for passing and blocking routes for running etc
Steelers are a good team to root for, helps if your family has ties to coal mining and the steel industry. But it’s the most widely represented team outside of its home base. I think there are some steelers pubs in Europe too although I forget exactly where
Be a Cincinnati Bengals fan like me. For decades, we have been the scrappy underdogs of the AFC North. We have never won the Super Bowl, while all of our division rivals have at least won once. And bonus... over the last 4 years, the Bengals have transformed under Joe Burrow, and are now unanimously considered to be a championship contenter(widely considered one of the top 3 teams currently) and the only team considered to be a threat to the current top team, the Chiefs... P.s. I know I'm late lol
The Vikings have never won a Super Bowl, but their team is on the up & up. They're usually pretty entertaining to watch, as well. They've had some crazily entertaining games over the last few seasons.
Stopping because it’s a game of extremely complex plays. Spectators have no problem waiting in suspense. Also the game was invented decades before TV and advertising
Could not make it through that video and I apologize. That guys voice after 5 minutes had me to the point I was about to start punching kittens. Will check one of your other reactions where that sound does not drive me crazy. 😁
Here are the teams that appeared in at least 1 Super Bowl but never won: Minnesota Vikings-4 / Buffalo Bills-4 / Cincinnati Bengals-3 / Carolina Panthers-2 / Atlanta Falcons-2 / Los Angeles Chargers-1 / Tennessee Titans-1 / Arizona Cardinals-1 Here are the teams that have never appeared in a Super Bowl: Cleveland Browns / Detroit Lions / Houston Texans / Jacksonville Jaguars
Its called football because a number of sports evolved from a loosely organized sport of the same name. The sport evolved into many forms, association (soccer), rugby, australian, gaelic, and american, but in america we just call it football Btw we call it soccer because it is a shortening of 'aSOCiation football'
15:15 The suck for Luck campaign of 2011. The Indianapolis Colts ended that year 2-14 after Payton Manning broke his neck. They knew they needed another QB, so they just didnt try so they could get a generational talent in Andrew Luck. Sadly Luck retired 7 years later. Most amazing QB's can make 15 years in the league.
At 15:31, this strategy of teams intentionally underperforming in order to benefit from the Draft and free-agency is called 'Tanking''. No team will admit to actually doing it though... lol
You gotta be a Jets fan if you wanna be an underdog fan. the Jets won the 3rd super bowl back in 1969 and have been cursed ever since. But finally, after years of anguish, they finally have hope this season in making the playoffs.
I’d say that American football is more akin to a new game Stretego every play than chess, because each team customizes their “side of the board” to suit the situation
It's harder for an NFL team to get good by "tanking" a season or two, than in other sports. In essence, there's 22 starters, plus special teams' players, only seven draft rounds per year, and only players in the first three rounds are expected to be starters. By the time you draft a full team, the first guys you drafted are retiring. There's also the aspect that "winning is a culture". Good players don't want to play for losing teams. If a team were to purposefully lose games, they would see all their best players leave well before a full team could be drafted. (As a Detroit fan... I point out Barry Sanders, and Calvin Johnson. Two of the best to ever play the game, who retired once they realized the team was going nowhere.)
I chose the Ravens last year because their offence (When I watched) was always so explosive and entertaining to watch, much more so than other teams. Now, I didn't see every team play, nor did I catch every Ravens game. I remembered teams and would watch games featuring a select few. If the 49ers, ravens, Lions, Bills or Eagles played, I would watch. Now, I expect that I'll be labeled a 'fake' fan, which is true. I watch the sport because of how entertaining it is, not because of how invested I am in the teams, the players, the fans, NOPE. For me it's sheer FUN.
The game play isn’t stopped for advertisements lol. The game play is stopped because that specific play is over. Someone scored a touchdown, someone tackled the ball carrier, the ball carrier went out of bounds, a penalty occurred, etc.. At which point both teams must reset at the line of scrimmage in order to run the next play. It’s quite unique compared to any other sport, or any other game at all. Because the game isn’t played constantly like soccer, basketball, Call of Duty, Halo, etc.. But it’s also not quite “turn” based such as chess, checkers, poker, etc.. It’s probably hard to understand from a foreign perspective because there’s really no other sport or game in the world that’s played in a similar way, let alone exactly the same way.
Rugby is for small guys who don't want to be hit. But soccer is quite popular with the girls. "I don't understand why football isn't played like rugby" It's also not played like tennis. That help any?
Between plays the teams have to manage the clock, field position, the next play call and substitutions in 40 seconds. These guys have hundreds of plays and the QB gives the team the play in the huddle so everyone in on the same page. They'll do this dozens of times throughout the game until the game clock expires. There's unlimited substitutions in American Football so the strategy is real.
Vikings fan here, never won a super bowl but i do not recommend the disappointment of voluntarily becoming a fan. We look sick though and we have the best receiver in the league (for now)
The "tanking" strategy isn't guaranteed to produce results. Only about 50% of a teams roster is filled with drafted players. It is possible to be undradted or drafted really late and succeed in the NFL. Higher drafted players do get much larger contracts, but there are far more draft busts than draft successes.
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its girly? you need a reality check. come play one minute of US football, you would get ruined. rugby, I love it, does not measure up. nothing is US football.
They actually were told they had to wear pads way back in the day if they wanted to continue because too many people were dying
Exactly. The USA president at the time threatened to ban the sport .
You've got to be trolling. There's literally been only one player to die on the field 😂
@@zachschendt7201American football is older than the NFL. 45 people died in the first 5 years
In 1905 (and for decades previous), American football, an evolution of rugby, was solely a college (and, by imitation, high school) game-which is, incidentally, one of the reasons that the college game, with traditions pre-dating the NFL, is more popular. It featured mass-collision plays and no solid rules about when a ball was dead, leading to piling-on, nor rules about unsportsmanlike conduct. A team strategy might be to pummel the best guy on the other team. In 1905, the Chicago Tribune reported nineteen deaths and 137 serious injuries, calling the sport a 'Death Harvest'. Schools like Cal and Stanford were banning the sport in favor of rugby, and President Roosevelt-whose sons played and who liked the game-called a committee of coaches and other important people in the game to establish safer rules. The President had no statutory nor constitutional power to do anything about it, but we're talking about Teddy Roosevelt here. Anyway, the result was far closer to the modern game, making the forward pass legal, putting that neutral zone between the offensive and defensive lines, and myriad other changes. At the same time, getting the game away from play after play of mass brutal crunching through (or, occasionally, literally being thrown over) the line thanks to the forward pass and some other plays turned out to make for a much more exciting game.
The protective gear was minimal. Stiff leather helmets that look like they were mainly to protect the ears, nose-guards and mouth-guards that were of dubious help (even the coaches seem to have wondered if they were useful), and soft shoulder, elbow, and knee pads. And that was it. It did not change immediately when the 1906 rules came into effect.
Then president teddy Roosevelt was involved with trying to make American football safer. 1905 the Chicago tribune newspaper reported 19 deaths on the field. This brought the introduction of the forward pass and pads.
11:14 Just because play stops doesn't mean there is nothing going on. American Football is 75% strategic and situational. It's like Chess. Rugby players are like 1500m runners and AF players are like sprinters.
This is spot on. The players aren’t expected to create some moment of brilliance on their own. If they score it is generally because they executed a scripted play to perfection. You are an actor with a specific role and if you can’t perform it, the scene. Even better, the players only play one side of the game(offense/defense). Can you if they had to play a sport where you had to play both aspects of the game? Someone might die of exhaustion.
Additionally each play is like a 5 to 10 seconds fight with bats. Players need that 5 to 10 second break just to catch their breath and adjust their padding. Rugby players have a continuous fight but they don’t get to use their bodies quite as much as weapons. Both are very tough sports. Add in the Ozzies and the Irish versions and you have complete mayhem. You will now never see the kind of hits you see in the NFL and any other sport and the pads only help to a limited degree when a 250-300 pound plus man hits another at speed.
I lived overseas for years and always used the chess match analogy. Every play is a strategic battle of the minds followed by an attempt to physically execute these decisions.
@@bryanjacobsen5005 better way to put it is chess with rocket launchers. There is so much strategy to football, but at the same time you can write up the greatest play ever, just for Aaron Donald to show up and say "your plans don't mean shit if I run through 3 motherfuckers and kill your QB".
All this planning and for a sport where the second to second gameplay devolves into "Ok no go run through that motherfucker". Thats the real beauty of American football
The Detroit Lions are seeing their first major success as a franchise in about 30 years right now. They're a solid team to cheer for. The underdog that has finally become a threat. This is from a long-time Lions fan
oh yeah go lions
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No the stopping in American football is not just about advertisement. The strategy behind the game is very complex and specific plays are called in from the coaches. Then the QB can change the play based on how the defense lines up. This takes time.
its like chess.
17:46 Less than 1% of college players get drafted. The NFL is an elite league and even if you are drafted, you'll still have to earn your place on the team. The roster starts out with 90 players but has to be cut down to 53 by the start of the season.
The Cleveland Browns and the Detroit Lions are 2 of the few teams who not only have never won, but never even MADE it to a super bowl.
There is a chance that changes this season as the Lions and Browns are both VERY good and have a chance of making it to the bowl
"Soccer" was originally a British term referring to the players, short for "association footballer", back in the days when it had to be distinguished from "rugby football". "Football" was a catch-all term for ball sports played on foot (as opposed to horseback like polo).
As far as not stopping between plays goes, for a while in the 1990s that was a popular style of offense (most widely known as the "Run'n'Gun"), where offenses would run plays as quickly as they could, not giving the defense time to adjust or catch their breath without burning time outs. It also proved to have a massive weakness: It meant your defense was out on the field for a LONG time (unless the other team was also playing "hurry up"). If you couldn't score point and force the other team to keep pace, your defense would be GASSED and easy pickings in the late stages of the game.
Now, teams only break out the "hurry up" in spots; usually in the second half when they have to make up a significant point deficit.
Technically yes, a team could intentionally lose games to get a higher draft pick. But what prevents that is the players and coaches don't want to look like crap and lose their jobs. Players and coaches change teams all the time. If they play terrible, even as part of a plan to intentionally lose games, then no one else will ever want to sign them, so if they ever get cut or released from their current team (which happens a lot), then they will be out of a job.
That said, if a team is neck and neck with another for bottom of the barrel, it isn't unheard of to put minimum effort into (or keep a key player out of) the last game or two.
I was fixing to say, if you think it’s so pansy, march your little butt on over and as you all say….have a go at it !! Then we’ll talk about it.
DK Metcalf ran a 10.33 100m in the US Olympic trials. At 228 pounds. It's ludicrous.
The reason for stopping and starting is planning for each 'play'
A big thing about football that non fans don't see at first is that the reason for stoppage between plays is because the game is structured as just as much of a strategy game, as it is an athletic game. The stoppage between plays allows for different sets, and personnel. Every play is basically equivalent to a move in chess. Including calling plays (making moves) to set up plays (moves) in the future. A lot of plays are being called with plays 2-3 plays in the future in mind.
The funny part about him crapping on Detroit is they are now the best of those 3 teams with a legitimate playoff shot and could possibly make the superbowl now those are a lot of big “if’s” but stranger things have happened
The mass effect galaxy map theme really threw me off because ive been balls deep in ME3 and thought i was hearing things 😂
Some teams “tank” to get good players, but investigations are thorough enough and would be punitive enough that it’s rarely if ever obvious, the players still want to win so they still play tough games even if some people are trying to hold the team back.
Doesn’t that happen in the NBA tho teams willingly tank for that top 3 pick
Football stops a lot, but it's part of making the play extremely intense. It's the intensity of play that makes football so popular.
The basic need for the helmets is the difference between the start of plays. In rugby, the players and teams are shoving each other after connecting up, in American football the play is started while the players are apart and then charge each other (at the line) crashing heads. Physics.
The stopping makes it like a chess match where every piece moves on every turn.
The stopping… best understood by realizing American football is about the precise execution of a single carefully planned play. So it’s not about continuous action where complex plays are not attempted and if they are they fall apart. Think about how many soccer/hockey/lacrosse passes don’t go as planned, this the result of constant motion and endless ongoing motion.
The stopping is because each play starts with preset formations. While Rugby keeps moving, they are not always going all out. Each player is going full out, each play. The percentage of game play with 100% effort is much higher for football.
The reason for the stops is because once the guy with ball is tackled the play is over and they have to line up again to begin the new play. Its not just a constant running down the field. Theres strategy and planning with each play
Gridiron is my favorite term for American Football. We should just call it that.
I think one reason that tanking for draft picks isn't such a problem in the NFL, is that you've got 11 players on offense and 11 more players on defense, plus substitutes, kickers, etc, and every single one has an impact on the game, though at some positions this is really only obvious when they suck. So even a really legendary player won't win a championship by himself, and the annals of history are filled with great players who just never had the teammates to win much.
It's actually the other way around. As football became popular, the TV networks jumped on board and the nature of the game lends itself to commercials during the game. And i want you to consider just how little energy is expended in a soccer game per player. I know they run miles per game but thats just running. Even on a scoring play, how players are involved and for how long. In contrast the energy expended by almost every player on almost every play in the course of a game provides the reason why its not a continuous play type game. The need for rest, rotation, and medical attention.
As a other clueless brit, I'll follow along😂
Cheers brother
Clueless Americans loves clueless Brits
NFL football is about choreographed 'plays'. That's why all the breaks. Each team's playbook can have hundreds of plays. The team lines up and attempts to execute 'the play'. The defense has plays as well. To answer your question: yes. Teams can 'tank' a season in hopes of landing higher draft picks.
They stop so much because after every play the team huddles together everybody gets told they’re assignments on the next play.
The atmosphere for an NFL game is a lot better then for a premier league game because most of the spectators are sober and for half the season it’s freaking cold in many other venues. Additionally there may not be public transport and people have to drive sober.
Allow me to educate you about the use of equipment in American football. Over 100 years ago, they did not wear equipment. Because of that, there were a few deaths and so many serious injuries that the president of the United States threatened to ban the sport. Upon hearing the possible ban, the sport administrators decided to make changes to the rules and added equipment as a requirement.
...So before call American football "girly", please understand that American football was much more violent than rugby even before they began using equipment!
The reason why American Football has so many stops is to reset and to communicate new plays. It is literally a chess match going on in real time using real people instead of pieces. As brutal as it is you are constantly trying to outsmart your opponent on every level
If you love the NFL, being in the stadium for a good game is 10000x better than being in front of your TV. Especially for a snow game !
The hits are actually harder because they wear pads so they go full force and its like a 40-45mph head on collision in a car for the amount of force
Yes sir, same with my browns. Hopefully we can eventually meet in the Super Bowl some time
The best part of NFL is the strategy it entails, the whole team is needed not just individuals. Strategy is so much fun then add in skills, athleticism and just pure luck. Plus the heavy heavy hits. It's a great sport
@11:30 as many commercials as they do have they only have 2 times each quarter they do stop the game to jam in a couple extra. The rest of them are during actual slow points in the game. Like switching possession or between quarters or when someone gets hurt. Team calls a timeout, that sort of stuff.
The start stop is just the nature of the game. It's the same in the NFL or if you are playing in the back yard with your buddies.
14:23 Jets, Lions & Browns, true to the parity format, are contenders now.
All three of those teams had bad head coaches at the time in that video especially Detroit had an actual bum for a head coach because at the time there new clueless gm fired a good head coach that was already there and replaced him with an actual bum. Thankfully that cost that incompetent gm to get fired along with his terrible head coach and they were replaced with people that actually know football and made the Detroit Lions not disgusting to watch.
About all the stopping. You have to look at it as a game consisting only of set plays. So its set play, break, set play, break, set play, ect but instead of all corners or free kicks it done to actually progress the ball
Yeah that, except the offense is actually successful, imagine if set pieces scored a goal 1/3 of the time.
I luv more people getting into the game it makes the game better as a whole luv u brother!❤️💛
The shoulder pads are 3 layer's of high impact plastic like a car bumper. That's what you put all your speed and weight behind to time a hit to the ribs or chest. It's cute that foreigners think they are soft pads for protection. They are weapons. He's right Brits came up with the word soccer. They stop to call complicated plays. The play is made in all positions so it's chess game of inches. FYI we have rugby here too, 900 teams just in college alone so we are familiar with the game. Lol
Appreciate your knowledge I am really enjoying learning about the sport
Just an FYI "soccer" was a British term for your football so you can't blame us for the word lol
This is my argument lol
Haha you’re so stubbornly European.. love it
If you want underdogs you can't beat Cleveland. The mistake by the lake !!!! A river there once caught FIRE 🔥. This team eats good players for breakfast.
@11:35 it is because of TV deals, they literally pause the game for ads. Ive watched it in the stadium lol
The stopping is too so each team can call a new play
15:22 Yep! That's what's refered to ask "tanking." Essentially it means the coaches and owners have realized the team is going to actively sucks, and so they use the rest of the season to experiment on different strategies instead of winning to try and get the best pick possible. Usually there's at least three or four teams by the end of a season that find themselves in a race to the bottom and depending on who actually does well in the league things can get CRAZY.
Also, if your team REALLY sucks for a long time it's common to see whats called a "rebuild." Essentially that means the owners fire all the coaches and potentially the gm, then they bring in a new coach to build a team of new talent from the ground up based on their ideas and strategies (in extreme cases, fans will get so upset with the team that the owner has to sell the team). This usually involves having multiple tank seasons (or just underperformances) in a row, and often trading away good players that are aging to try and get more/better draft picks. Teams that are doing really well in a particular season will sometimes scoop top talent off of bad teams to try and put themselves over the edge to win the championship. You'll often hear that referred to as a teams "championship window:" meaning the couple of seasons where a teams talent and coaching lines up to where they can truly contend for a championship before their stars age out of their prime. The Lions are actually a prime example of this rn. They are a historically awful team, so bad infact that like 4 years ago the owners sold the team and the new owners brought in a new first time head coach named Dan Campbell (a former player for the lions who has become lovingly known as MCDC - Motor City Dan Campbell) and the first thing they did was trade their franchise quarterback to a different team which one the super bowl that same year while the lions went 1-11. The next year they got a little better with fresh talent out of the draft. The next year they looked good! Last year they stomped on the reigning champs in the first week of the season, won a playoff game for the first time in 30+ years, and for the first time ever made the conference championship game. Now this year they look like the best team in football and it looks like the only thing between them and a superbowl championship is some key injuries the defense has suffered (but their coaching has been awesome and they're still dominating without some of their best players).
The stopping and starting is bc they use a play structure. They huddle, come up with a play to run, make the attempt. Start over.
The reason soccer isn't popular and the reason the US usually isn't all that great at it is because all the really good athletes switch to playing either basketball, football, or baseball when they get to high school. Soccer is played by kids all over the country but as they get older they usually start focusing on one of the other 3 sports.
The reason we stop between every play is so the coaches can tell their players what to do on their next play.
The game stops generally after every play. Instead of a scrum in rugby you huddle up and call the next play, so everyone knows their job on the play. A no huddle, or hurry up offense is the exception. Of course the play can always be changed at the line of scrimmage based on the defensive alignment. Think of it like a chess game with 10 teammates all moving at once, every move requires cordination. In soccer or rugby it's a marathon, you pace yourself looking for a gap to explode. In the NFL every play is a 100 yd. sprint or a sumo wrestling match for the linemen.
with the NFL draft, you are correct, the draft picks go in reverse order of teams success last year. teams do occasionally do poorly intentionally for good picks, we call it “tanking”. in the nba draft on the other hand, there is a draft lottery for the teams that missed the playoffs where all of them have a chance to win the first overall pick (with the odds following the order of the NFL draft)
Theoretically you can tank , but the variables aren't really worth it . Can't miss products, miss sometimes and also you need much one then just one player.
Yes there are several teams that have never won a Super Bowl: Jacksonville, Carolina, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Arizona, Detroit, and Houston are all examples of this.
There are 12 teams that have never won a Superbowl. 8 that have been but lost... Minnesota Vikings (4) Buffalo Bills (4) Cincinnati Bengals (3) Atlanta Falcons (2) Carolina Panthers (2) San Diego/ Los Angeles Chargers (1) Tennessee Titans (1) Arizona Cardinals (1). There are 4 teams yet to make it to a Superbowl... Detroit Lions, Cleveland Browns, Jacksonville Jaguars, Houston Texans.
The NBA has the same draft rules as the NFL and what you're describing is called tanking. It's a real problem in the NBA, but in the NFL you can't go less than 100% or you will get seriously hurt. It's self preservation that prevents tanking in the NFL. Something no other sport outside of fighting really has.
Sometimes I think the coaches tank with bad playcalling, but the players are still trying to win. They might not give their best players much playing time down the stretch.
Kids have played rugby our whole life since the fifties. But we always called it tackle the man with the ball😂😂😂
7:30 (pause it) top left to bottom right are the, Buffalo Bills, Baltimore Ravens, Texas Texans, Denver Broncos, Texas Cowboys, Chicago Bears, Atlanta Falcons, Arizona Cardinals, Miami Dolphins, Texas Colts, Kansas City Chiefs, New York Giants, Detroit Lions, Carolina Panthers, Los Angeles Rams, New England Patriots, Cleveland Browns, Jacksonville Jaguars, Los Angeles Chargers, Philadelphia Eagles, Oregon Ducks, New Orleans Saints, San Francisco 49ers, New York Jets, Pittsburgh Steelers, Tennessee Titans, Oakland/Las Vegas Raiders, Washington Redskins/ Washington, Minnesota Vikings, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and Seattle Seahawks. My team are the Oakland/ Las Vegas Raiders
The NHL has similar rules to soccer, although fist fights are aloud in hockey.
So funny story about the Jets and the Draft. A few years a go the Jets were projected to get the number one pick in the draft. This draft having Trevor Lawrence who was slated to be the best quarterback coming out of college in a long time, (literally nicknamed "The Prince that was Promised). However in a hilarious twist of the Jets being the Jets, they one the last game of their season, losing that first pick in the draft. They then watched my favorite team (Jacksonville Jaguars) draft Trevor Lawrence. So to put it bluntly, only the Jets can lose by winning.
I just watched your big hits reaction and now this... my favorite team is the Cincinnati Bengals
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15:22
There is, occasionally, a "race to the bottom" in order to gain favorable draft status the following season. This is particularly true when there is a singular, spectacular talent in the college ranks who plays a position many teams might potentially need - generally, a quarterback.
Betting the future on a single player is a high risk strategy which frequently backfires. Even if a quarterback is a generational talent, sending him to a team which is otherwise utter garbage, probably won't work. If his blockers are horrible, he'll get killed. If his receivers are slow and can't catch, it doesn't matter how strong or accurate his arm might be. If his running backs can't shed tackles and fumble the ball every third touch, the quarterback will have an unbalanced offense - and thus will be easier to defend. If the defense is terrible and concedes 40 points per game, the quarterback could conceivably have a spectacular season, and still lose every game.
Successful teams scout and develop talent within the confines of the salary cap. Yes, certain players will make crazy money and out-earn their teammates many times over. But owners have to balance the need for high spending on superstars with the need to have enough cash left under the cap to pay enough to attract and keep all the necessary role players happy.
That's why certain teams do well, and others struggle - in spite of rules designed to foster parity.
My team, the Minnesota Vikings, has never won the Super Bowl. They also have a tendency to choke when the stakes are highest.
Play calling is reason for stoppages after each play. It’s not freestyle running out there like Rugby.
There’s specific runner routes for passing and blocking routes for running etc
I am an Arizona sports fan. We haven’t won anything in football.
Good in basketball though!
Ameican Football is complex like 3D chess or that scene in Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope except with modern day goliaths or supreme athletes
Steelers are a good team to root for, helps if your family has ties to coal mining and the steel industry. But it’s the most widely represented team outside of its home base. I think there are some steelers pubs in Europe too although I forget exactly where
Tennessee Titans fan here, been to one Super Bowl and never won one 🤞🏼
The stopping is to set up the next play. It’s studying your opponent strengths and weaknesses to plan the next move.
Every play they are running as fast as they can the entirety of the down. Its like comparing a sprint to a marathon
Be a Cincinnati Bengals fan like me. For decades, we have been the scrappy underdogs of the AFC North. We have never won the Super Bowl, while all of our division rivals have at least won once. And bonus... over the last 4 years, the Bengals have transformed under Joe Burrow, and are now unanimously considered to be a championship contenter(widely considered one of the top 3 teams currently) and the only team considered to be a threat to the current top team, the Chiefs...
P.s. I know I'm late lol
The Vikings have never won a Super Bowl, but their team is on the up & up. They're usually pretty entertaining to watch, as well. They've had some crazily entertaining games over the last few seasons.
Stopping because it’s a game of extremely complex plays. Spectators have no problem waiting in suspense. Also the game was invented decades before TV and advertising
Could not make it through that video and I apologize. That guys voice after 5 minutes had me to the point I was about to start punching kittens. Will check one of your other reactions where that sound does not drive me crazy. 😁
I think soccer didn't get popular because we have hockey. It's kinda like soccer on ice, but instead of flopping, players fight
That qb draft class turned out horrible 😂
fr all of em are ass
15:45 this definitely happens. teams “tank” or purposely lose when they realize they dont have any chance at the super bowl to get the first pick
Here are the teams that appeared in at least 1 Super Bowl but never won:
Minnesota Vikings-4 / Buffalo Bills-4 / Cincinnati Bengals-3 / Carolina Panthers-2 / Atlanta Falcons-2 / Los Angeles Chargers-1 / Tennessee Titans-1 / Arizona Cardinals-1
Here are the teams that have never appeared in a Super Bowl:
Cleveland Browns / Detroit Lions / Houston Texans / Jacksonville Jaguars
Thanks for the information
Houston Texans have never even been to a Super Bowl and are the newest team in the league, founded in 2001. Also my favorite team
It's so American. The stop, start is like a series of battles in a war.
American Football is called that way because the ball is about a foot long
Its called football because a number of sports evolved from a loosely organized sport of the same name. The sport evolved into many forms, association (soccer), rugby, australian, gaelic, and american, but in america we just call it football
Btw we call it soccer because it is a shortening of 'aSOCiation football'
@@frogee8494that’s one of the reasons but the ball is a footlong which is why you’re able to Throw and run with it
Theres alot of stoppages because the game is actually very strategically complex, which is very ironic
15:15 The suck for Luck campaign of 2011. The Indianapolis Colts ended that year 2-14 after Payton Manning broke his neck. They knew they needed another QB, so they just didnt try so they could get a generational talent in Andrew Luck. Sadly Luck retired 7 years later. Most amazing QB's can make 15 years in the league.
Jacksonville Jaguars, never won a SB, just got an insane young qb, teams looking up
At 15:31, this strategy of teams intentionally underperforming in order to benefit from the Draft and free-agency is called 'Tanking''. No team will admit to actually doing it though... lol
You gotta be a Jets fan if you wanna be an underdog fan. the Jets won the 3rd super bowl back in 1969 and have been cursed ever since. But finally, after years of anguish, they finally have hope this season in making the playoffs.
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Actually the name football for our sport has nothing to do with the anatomical foot but rather the ball being 1 FOOT in length
I’d say that American football is more akin to a new game Stretego every play than chess, because each team customizes their “side of the board” to suit the situation
I’m a long time Seattle season ticket holder.
It's harder for an NFL team to get good by "tanking" a season or two, than in other sports.
In essence, there's 22 starters, plus special teams' players, only seven draft rounds per year, and only players in the first three rounds are expected to be starters. By the time you draft a full team, the first guys you drafted are retiring.
There's also the aspect that "winning is a culture". Good players don't want to play for losing teams. If a team were to purposefully lose games, they would see all their best players leave well before a full team could be drafted. (As a Detroit fan... I point out Barry Sanders, and Calvin Johnson. Two of the best to ever play the game, who retired once they realized the team was going nowhere.)
Sometimes if teams know they won’t make it to the playoffs then they’ll just play their practice squad for the last game to get a higher draft pick.
I chose the Ravens last year because their offence (When I watched) was always so explosive and entertaining to watch, much more so than other teams. Now, I didn't see every team play, nor did I catch every Ravens game. I remembered teams and would watch games featuring a select few. If the 49ers, ravens, Lions, Bills or Eagles played, I would watch.
Now, I expect that I'll be labeled a 'fake' fan, which is true. I watch the sport because of how entertaining it is, not because of how invested I am in the teams, the players, the fans, NOPE. For me it's sheer FUN.
11:37 as an american, that made PERFECT sense actually
15:35 tanking is considered illegal in the nfl and you can lose picks due to it
The game play isn’t stopped for advertisements lol. The game play is stopped because that specific play is over. Someone scored a touchdown, someone tackled the ball carrier, the ball carrier went out of bounds, a penalty occurred, etc.. At which point both teams must reset at the line of scrimmage in order to run the next play.
It’s quite unique compared to any other sport, or any other game at all. Because the game isn’t played constantly like soccer, basketball, Call of Duty, Halo, etc.. But it’s also not quite “turn” based such as chess, checkers, poker, etc..
It’s probably hard to understand from a foreign perspective because there’s really no other sport or game in the world that’s played in a similar way, let alone exactly the same way.
Rugby is for small guys who don't want to be hit. But soccer is quite popular with the girls. "I don't understand why football isn't played like rugby" It's also not played like tennis. That help any?
What a Stupid comment id get hit more times in one game of Rugby than NFL players get hit in 5 Seasons
@@ChatwinReactsNo you wouldn’t. You can’t even block in rugby. You block every play in football.
The lions ended up better than most teams somehow 😂
Bro. Wearing gear in NFL is even more dangerous and tougher than Non-wearing Rugby.
Between plays the teams have to manage the clock, field position, the next play call and substitutions in 40 seconds. These guys have hundreds of plays and the QB gives the team the play in the huddle so everyone in on the same page. They'll do this dozens of times throughout the game until the game clock expires. There's unlimited substitutions in American Football so the strategy is real.
Vikings fan here, never won a super bowl but i do not recommend the disappointment of voluntarily becoming a fan. We look sick though and we have the best receiver in the league (for now)
There's all that stopping because the entire game is a series of SET PLAYS like corner kicks.
More of his stuff plz
The "tanking" strategy isn't guaranteed to produce results. Only about 50% of a teams roster is filled with drafted players. It is possible to be undradted or drafted really late and succeed in the NFL. Higher drafted players do get much larger contracts, but there are far more draft busts than draft successes.