With all due respect, I understand what people mean when they say 'God given talent', but anyone with the passion and patience to study, and practice 10s of thousands of hours, can achieve even better results than Buddy. God does give us the aforementioned passion and patience to achieve our goals however.
@@chuckp1832 That's just not true. It's just the excuse that millions of jealous, lazy people use. Anyone who puts the heart, time, and practice into whatever they want to do can do it. Not that all of us can - I understand that we don't all have the luxury of time and supportive people to dedicate ourselves to what we wish we could do, but it has little to do with natural "god-given" talent. Oh, sure, some have more talent than others but it's not a big enough difference to prevent those with less talent from doing the same things. It's offensive to say that, to people who DO put in that time and dedication.
Greatest drummer to draw breath Gene Krupa said that many many times. and by the way that statement by Krupa still holds true today. Only one Buddy Rich and believe me no one comes close. enough said
There are literally hundreds of drummers more technically skilled and even musical than Rich was. That's just the way progress works, look at olympic athletes from his time period to now, technology and technique theory improve, competition drives everything to be better. Yes he was the greatest of his time, but it's a bit irrational to say he will always be the greatest of all time, he wasn't an alien.
@@poppinlochnesshopster3249 There is no drummer alive today who is more technical skilled than Buddy was. Buddy was already a master at age 12. And no... Virgil, Marco and such are not Jazz masters. Erskine, Cobham, Smith, Weckl are great but still three levels below where Buddy, Morello and Shawnessy checked out.
@@rick3747 I wouldn't even pull out Minnemann or Donati. I would say someone even like Zach Hill is more technical than Rich. Hell even George Kollias could out chop him. Agree to disagree I guess.
I think perhaps this may be a composite recording of Buddy at different ages, Vitaphone recorded Keith- Orpheum vaudeville performers as well as other vaudeville units. His singing here sounds like a 7 or 8 year old voice, perhaps there is some tap dancing also, he was a marvelous tap dancer.
Truly is a treasure. Belongs in the Library of Congress! A am reading his book now, written by Mel Torme. Thoroughly enjoying it so far. Thank you for sharing this.
Sounds like tap dancing, which Buddy also did. There's a video of Fred Astaire playing drums, and his drumming sounds like his dancing. If I drummed like I danced, it would sound like a drum set being thrown down a flight of stairs.
That could sound great, under the right circumstances! (Quite a few dancers were drummers and vice versa, including Papa Jo Jones - who danced in medicine shows as a kid, and Sammy Davis Jr., who was a great drummer.)
Vitaphone disc's in good shape, so film probably didn't play much. Sounds better than average! It's amazing what is still being found and more astounding how well restorations are done. This would be a gem to see!
I saw Buddy play back in the 70s when I was in college. So wonderful to hear this disc. I was wondering if there's any chance you might transfer it using a direct connection and not recording off the speaker. Would really help the sound, although I don't want to sound like I'm complaining, this is wonderful!
Wow ~ the miracle of sound recording must've been the greatest phenomenon of the day - because of music, arguably more important than film. That pic at 4:30 probably looked like Buddy at the time. Thanks for the upload. RIP, Buddy. 🌟
Thanks for posting this! I wonder where you came up with it. I have never gotten to hear the really early stuff before, until now. Great job,, and great playing from Buddy. I studied at Binghamton, too, so that photo also got me! And I saw him play there; the solo made the cut for the best-of collection.
Thanks! Buddy was an incredibly volitile and energetic character. I have a tape a friend gave me years ago of Buddy totally rippin on his band, even to the point of threatening violence. Most of what I heard was parodied in Mad Magazine, nearly verbatim.Used to watch him on the Tonight Show. He'd sit in with Doc and the band.
I can hear it - that’s definitely Buddy, his musical personality and style remained consistent. And he looked like he might’ve been a smart aleck kid… who wouldn’t, making $1,000/wk at that age!
well yes and no..he was under extreme pressure bc his parents act flubbed out and buddy had to carry the entire rich family keep in mind this is ALSO the great depression..so its not like he got to keep that money for fun stuff it was for food and clothes for a think a family of 5 2 sisters one brother mom and pop
@@KenAldrich1958 even after covering family expenses, food, travel, clothes… $1000 per week and the 1920s or 1930s? A HUGE amount of money. “$1,000 in 1930 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $18,074.01 today, an increase of $17,074.01 over 93 years. The dollar had an average inflation rate of 3.16% per year between 1930 and today, producing a cumulative price increase of 1,707.40%”
No, the pic was a photo of a photo that was taken at an angle, so it looks kinda wonky. I’ll send you a version I re-edited and adjusted the perspective so it looks pretty normal.
He played better then than Most drummers do as adults!
Buddy had natural born God given talent.
And, God made sure that you had to know it was from God! Buddy always puzzled drummers. "Hows he do that?"
With all due respect, I understand what people mean when they say 'God given talent', but anyone with the passion and patience to study, and practice 10s of thousands of hours, can achieve even better results than Buddy. God does give us the aforementioned passion and patience to achieve our goals however.
Just like anything else, thousands of hours of practice won't give results if you do not have the right natural ability/talent. @@mwmiddleton
@@chuckp1832 That's just not true. It's just the excuse that millions of jealous, lazy people use. Anyone who puts the heart, time, and practice into whatever they want to do can do it. Not that all of us can - I understand that we don't all have the luxury of time and supportive people to dedicate ourselves to what we wish we could do, but it has little to do with natural "god-given" talent. Oh, sure, some have more talent than others but it's not a big enough difference to prevent those with less talent from doing the same things. It's offensive to say that, to people who DO put in that time and dedication.
A little sonic journey back to another time and the beginning of the best drummer that ever lived!
@@vipermad358 Close but even Gene would bend the knee
Greatest drummer to draw breath Gene Krupa said that many many times. and by the way that statement by Krupa still holds true today. Only one Buddy Rich and believe me no one comes close. enough said
There are literally hundreds of drummers more technically skilled and even musical than Rich was. That's just the way progress works, look at olympic athletes from his time period to now, technology and technique theory improve, competition drives everything to be better. Yes he was the greatest of his time, but it's a bit irrational to say he will always be the greatest of all time, he wasn't an alien.
@@poppinlochnesshopster3249
There is no drummer alive today who is more technical skilled than Buddy was. Buddy was already a master at age 12. And no... Virgil, Marco and such are not Jazz masters. Erskine, Cobham, Smith, Weckl are great but still three levels below where Buddy, Morello and Shawnessy checked out.
@@rick3747 I wouldn't even pull out Minnemann or Donati. I would say someone even like Zach Hill is more technical than Rich. Hell even George Kollias could out chop him. Agree to disagree I guess.
Buddy used to come over and play with my dad, they were foxhole buddies in the marines!!!!
1929?? Jeez, incredible!!
Buddy a professional his entire life.
Unbelievable , a child with such a sense of rhythm and stick control . This is no less than 50 years later
Wonderful Singing Tappin and Drummin! Thank you!!!
I think perhaps this may be a composite recording of Buddy at different ages, Vitaphone recorded Keith- Orpheum vaudeville performers as well as other vaudeville units. His singing here sounds like a 7 or 8 year old voice, perhaps there is some tap dancing also, he was a marvelous tap dancer.
This is totally classic
Super find! Thanks for posting. I hope one day someone will find the video portion of this.
Truly is a treasure. Belongs in the Library of Congress! A am reading his book now, written by Mel Torme. Thoroughly enjoying it so far. Thank you for sharing this.
Buddy Rich clearly was a prodigy.
Sounds like tap dancing, which Buddy also did. There's a video of Fred Astaire playing drums, and his drumming sounds like his dancing. If I drummed like I danced, it would sound like a drum set being thrown down a flight of stairs.
That could sound great, under the right circumstances! (Quite a few dancers were drummers and vice versa, including Papa Jo Jones - who danced in medicine shows as a kid, and Sammy Davis Jr., who was a great drummer.)
@Jude F. LOL! 😂
What an incredible talent! I'm just trying to picture in my mind Buddy playing and it's an incredible image, since there's no accompanying video.
Vitaphone disc's in good shape, so film probably didn't play much. Sounds better than average!
It's amazing what is still being found and more astounding how well restorations are done.
This would be a gem to see!
Buddy's the man always was and always will be nothing and nobody compares.
AWESOME
I saw Buddy play back in the 70s when I was in college. So wonderful to hear this disc. I was wondering if there's any chance you might transfer it using a direct connection and not recording off the speaker. Would really help the sound, although I don't want to sound like I'm complaining, this is wonderful!
AMAZING !!!!!!!
Wow ~ the miracle of sound recording must've been the greatest phenomenon of the day - because of music, arguably more important than film.
That pic at 4:30 probably looked like Buddy at the time. Thanks for the upload.
RIP, Buddy. 🌟
Great find, thanks for posting this.
A real gem! Thanks…
This is INCREDIBLE! Buddy! 👏👏🥁
This is pure GOLD!!! Thanks again!!
Wow!!! Thank you so much for uploading this!!!!
Thanks for posting this! I wonder where you came up with it. I have never gotten to hear the really early stuff before, until now. Great job,, and great playing from Buddy. I studied at Binghamton, too, so that photo also got me! And I saw him play there; the solo made the cut for the best-of collection.
Charley Braun is a friend and he owns this original acetate. He generously allowed me to use his recording for this video.
Announcer: "Hey young man, what can I do for you?"
Traps: "You can get the #*%@ off my $%#** bus, you *%#@!!
Exactly. Musicians used to record him on the bus screaming and firing players and re-hiriing them.
🤣🤣
Thanks! Buddy was an incredibly volitile and energetic character. I have a tape a friend gave me years ago of Buddy totally rippin on his band, even to the point of threatening violence. Most of what I heard was parodied in Mad Magazine, nearly verbatim.Used to watch him on the Tonight Show. He'd sit in with Doc and the band.
5:22 What gave Cozy Powell the idea to go with "1812 Overture"
4:00 That's where Ringo got his look
Yeah thats right
I can hear it - that’s definitely Buddy, his musical personality and style remained consistent. And he looked like he might’ve been a smart aleck kid… who wouldn’t, making $1,000/wk at that age!
Not sure anyone made 1000 a week…
My understanding is that Buddy was the second highest
paid child star, the first being Jackie Coogan, at the time.
@@webstercat Buddy Rich earned $1,000 per week as a child star performer
well yes and no..he was under extreme pressure bc his parents act flubbed out and buddy had to carry the entire rich family keep in mind this is ALSO the great depression..so its not like he got to keep that money for fun stuff it was for food and clothes for a think a family of 5 2 sisters one brother mom and pop
@@KenAldrich1958 even after covering family expenses, food, travel, clothes… $1000 per week and the 1920s or 1930s? A HUGE amount of money. “$1,000 in 1930 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $18,074.01 today, an increase of $17,074.01 over 93 years. The dollar had an average inflation rate of 3.16% per year between 1930 and today, producing a cumulative price increase of 1,707.40%”
Someone ought to create an animation of this Little Guy!!
Back in 1929 the 2 kings of the drums were Krupa and Chick Webb. I definitely hear Chick Webb's influence here.
Tap dancer!
His Stars and Stripe take really reminds me of Popeye doing pretty much the same riff scat style in one of the cartoons.
He could be tap dancing too, as he could do that as well
Better rolls at 12 than anybody, any age, at any time in history. Sorry academia, but training only goes so far.
Not bad, kid!
Buddy Rich was born September 1917, so he’d be 12 here.
Since September is the ninth month of the year, there's a better chance he was only 11!
@@Robert-ck7nm - could be, although I suppose there is a slim chance he was 13 ;)
Either way - he was an 'early starter'!
is that big bass drum conically shaped? or is that just some oddity of the angle the pic was taken at
No, the pic was a photo of a photo that was taken at an angle, so it looks kinda wonky. I’ll send you a version I re-edited and adjusted the perspective so it looks pretty normal.
Was that Buddy singing?
Age 12 Buddy Rich. No wonder he was so comfortable debuting his daughter singing at 12.
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"Taps the Drum Wonder"
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Traps *
His sticks are almost as tall as him.
Binghamton's not on Long Island. There is no P in it. Let's keep it that way. 😉