5 Reasons to Play Pathfinder 1E in 2023
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
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In this video, we're going to discuss the benefits of playing Pathfinder 1E in 2023.
There are many reasons to play Pathfinder 1E in 2023, and I'm going to share with you five of the most important. From the amazing setting to the deep character customization, Pathfinder 1E is a game that will keep you entertained for years to come. So what are you waiting for? Set a date with your friends and jump into Pathfinder 1E in 2023!
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I've been running a PF1e campaign for the last 6 years. Same campaign, but my players have yet to either get bored, or fail to surprise me with something they've worked out.
We've been running a Forgotten Realms campaign using the Pathfinder 1e rules for over 10 years now. We sometimes switch DMs with each other and it's been working out great. We also gestalt the classes because of the lack of players and that has rounded out the characters more and made the challenges less impossible for a group of 2, sometimes 3 players. It's been the most fulfilling system I've ever played. And my experience is similar to yours. However, it might also be that you are a good DM and your players are great to play with that plays a huge factor in your enjoyment.
PF 1E will never die!
Pathfinder and the the eternal 3rd edition is my favourite ttrpg.
I have so much content with 3rd ed Ebberon books, 3rd edition Faerun book(best version of that setting in my opinion), pathfinder(Golarion is a great setting), Freeport(green ronin), Southlands(Kobold press) and so much more with adventure paths and other 3rd party content creators.
The system is crunchy, but by god, it's polished, and frankly, it's fun to be able to build almost anything you can imagine.
With pdfs, everything is available to buy forever and that's awesome(although i chase print editions whenever possible). I do dabble in other systems, starting at late in D&D 2nd edition, but honestly, i will likely always be tied to 3rd ed and pathfinder as it's final form as it were 😄
Lol we have the same list of settings!
We stick to Faerun 3 and 3.5 source books along with Pathfinder 1e and some per-approved 3.5 dnd books. Seems to work out great. Also playing around with Hyborian Age adventures using Pathfinder and about to try Steampunk merged with Call of Cthulhu using Pathfinder 1e rules. Looking forward to experimenting with that. I agree with your take on Pathfinder 1e.
True, pathfinder 1e is the pinnacle of the D20 systems in my mind. Fixes all the issues 3.5 had and feels more satisfying than 5e, which while great for simple and quick games, doesn’t have anything really deep to enjoy, like the magic items. Money feels useless in 5e
Exactly! I ditched D&D 4E after 15 minutes of browsing the PHB for the first time, and 5E has not impressed me. Pathfinder 1E (plus my House Rules document) is the best version of D&D available. Though I did nick the concept of Milestone Levels from 5E. I will admit that's easier than keeping track of XP.
@@jrytacct I thought Milestone levels were in Paizo APs?
@@Inub0i Were they? If so, I missed them. Hang on, I'm going to check the PFSRD. Nope, not there. Let me check my newly-purchased Pathfinder 2E Core Rules. Nope, looks like they still use XP. Where exactly are they?
The pinnacle of d20 game design is FantasyCraft. PF1e sticks too close to D&D to be anything but a better copy of 3.5.
@@janessavr I think Iron Gods, in particular, has a rough guideline at what level each PC should be at a certain point of the game.
Excellent insight! I've been playing 1E for years, and am well-invested in materials. And too old to switch!
I'd add one more reason: The (free!) online PFSRD for PF1e. Hands down the best resource I have found in 40 years of TTRPG experience. Its robust hyperlinking, search, and layout features (and also source references) make it invaluable for mid-session look-ups and piecing together what might seem like bloat if it were any other game. And it's a handy companion to the core books for a GM trying to build encounters, settings, or campaigns.
Yeah, the PFSRD is great.
Haha we tried 2nd edition and came back to 1e which is FAR BETTER.
Seriously, trying to reinvent the system just ended up with a turd.
Why so?
We keep trying other D20 systems and keep coming back to this one.
1E had it good. Runelords, anyone?
Love 1e and having gotten to watch the combination of inquisitor and gunslinger come together toward the end game of Rise has been awesome.
I love those classes. Also the Swashbuckler... omg. EXACTLY what I wanted to play.
My first group I've put together played Black Fang's Dungeon from the Beginner's Box. Pathfinder 1e has been the first game I've GM'd. It was pretty easy. And the math isn't all that bad. I'm excited for the next session!
The Adventure paths are amazing campaign settings to use in any system.
The books are really well made and detailed.
Started in 5th edition, got into pathfinder because of a group change and that's all I could find. I'm really enjoying. The only downside I've seen so far is there is much more videos on 5th edition. Glad I found this channel
agreed pathfinder especially pf1 don't get as much attention as they should though hopefully that changes
@@dragonlord498 maybe the dropped ball by wotc will revitalize some pf1
@@garretttrue3478 hopefully
There are a lot of genre agnostic creators too, for general DM or Player tips that's more focused on RP and thinking outside the box rather than the actual mechanics
That is true and unfortunate. There is a lot of Pathfinder 2e and D&D 5e content out there. I'm not a fan of either and would like to see more content out there that's supportive of Pathfinder 1e. They are still printing 1e so I hope content creators will consider looking into Pathfinder 1e content more.
Just bought a 1ed PF core rules book to try because of your channel, excellent videos, thank you!
Thank you very much. Enjoy Pathfinder 1e. It's a great system that's gone through a lot of refinement.
Yeah we are still playing PF1. We are currently ending a 2 years long PF1 campaign and, while we may play something else for a while, PF1 will always be an option.
I've been a pf1e player for years now and sort of ignored 2e due to how new it is and the lack of content. I've been wanting to start looking at the system though and a comprehensive pf1 and pf2 comparrison would be great.
I'll warn you right now. Pathfinder 2e isn't anything like Pathfinder 1e. It's basically a variation on D&D 5e with neutered magic users.
pf 1e is my favorite!
Bring more people to Pathfinder 1E!! Yesssss hahaha
Still my favorite system of all time.
Thank You! Everyone's all "Go to Pathfinder 2E!" Well, I've looked at Pathfinder 2E and I'm not impressed. I skipped D&D 4E and 5E, and Pathfinder 2E just appears to be a newer version of D&D 5E. I'll pass. Pathfinder 1E / 3.5E remains my definitive edition of the D&D game.
I started with Pathfinder 1e, and have been playing 5e because I was able to get into a game. Man 5e leaves a lot to be desired. There's a reason why I yearn for Pathfinder 1e. I looked at Pathfinder 2e as well, and boy did I not like the math or just overall class and multiclass design. I've only played 3 systems, and would love to play more, but currently Pathfinder 1e is my favorite by far. Though I should give some credit to savage worlds cuz I didn't get to play much and that was YEARS ago.
@@slydoorkeeper4783 There's a Pathfinder for Savage Worlds that I just picked up on DTRPG. At first glance it seems interesting. It's based on Pathfinder 1E converted to Savage Worlds.
My group swaps between d&d 5e and pathfinder 1e depending on who GMs. Both are fun. Though pathfinder is one I’d always want to play ultimately.
You have to love the options.
Love the hybrid classes. Been a Hunter fan for quite a while. It scratches that Ranger/Druid combo I’ve wanted. The archetypes can help you with any style of play you’re looking for. Currently playing two sorcerers that use intelligence and wisdom as their spellcasting stat instead of charisma.
I approve of this message. Love Pathfinder 1e
Pathfinder 1e is the best d&d game a person can play.
A mix of 3.5 and PF1( 3.75) is best in life.
What rules from 3.5 do you use? I've heard most people say they prefer pf1e as a base, but The Angry GM has said he prefers the tone of 3.5e
@@DNGNDriver no endless 0-level spam, 3.5 skills and feat advancement (feats allowed to be earn via in-game quests and special downtime activities)
I was introduced to Pathfinder 1E over a year ago (I've played other TTRPGs, but not Pathfinder). My gaming group has been running Rise of the Runelords in Roll20 since then, along with a few Pathfinder Society one-shots, and we'll be starting Curse of the Crimson Throne after the current campaign ends. I have to say it's been really fun and I've enjoyed both the system and the adventures with my current gaming group. I like character options and boy, does Pathfinder 1E give you plenty of those!
because Pathfinder 1e is the best edition.
1e all the way, group loves all the numbers and ability to define your character so much.
As my favorite system of all time, I can see a lot of good in 1e...
But some of my top picks Monsters: the parity of monster, templates out the wahzoo, telling you to just add class levels to certain monsters! It all feels really nice. 5e, even 2e, monsters feel far more arbitrary, lack the wealth of templates. And for 5e monsters feel more samey despite Pathfinder having so many shared mechanics... Maybe because they simply have less?
The variety of actions. Sure, maybe 2e has it beat on variety of actions, but the fact that almost everything can aid another, bull rush, coup de grace, delay, dirty trick, disarm, drag, feint, fight defensively, grapple, overrun, ready an action, reposition, steal, sunder, total defence, trip, tumble, and likely more... And there are rules for it! It's great... This sort of goes with player monster parity, I suppose.
Content! Maybe the biggest draw. Backwards compatible (with minor tweaks) to 3.x D&D, add in all the books to Pathfinder you could play every day of your life and run into something new every session... It is crazy and would be baffled by anything that out-contents it. There is just so much to explore!
Love all of your content for the past couple of years. I'm fired up about learning of pathfinder 2e
My home group is finishing up Book 2 of Tyrant's Grasp this weekend and after six years of playing APs in Pathfinder 1E, still seem to be having a blast. I keep asking them if they want to try anything else, but they keep saying they're enjoying 1E. Once you get comfortable with the system and the rules, it really is an almost infinitely customizable version of D&D.
On the content side - as the "Librarian" for our local PFS lodge during the 1E organized play days before Covid, I still have all the printed out scenarios from Seasons 0 thru 10 - well over 200 separate 4-hour adventures spanning the first decade of Pathfinder. So even if I somehow ran all 24 APs (fat chance of that happening) and the dozen or so modules I own, I still have the PFS library to fall back on. So I could go a decade or two without buying anything new and still have content for my home group.....
I remember we were playing 4e then tried a couple games of 3.5 we we ended up having two core games one for 4e and one for pathfinder just after it came out back in the day it was brilliant!! ATM i am honestly just olaying AD&D solo and Shadowdark. Id love to get my hands on some 1e books for pathfinder
Our table runs dnd 3.5e, but we love supplementing with pf1e content from time to time
Hey man, I just wanted to say I love your content man. You help with so much lore and rule questions I always ask and I can't say enough how much I appreciate it. I love PF1e, started ttrpgs with it and honestly don't have a want to change. I even started a whole document of homebrew rules to make it even more fun
5 reasons to play pathfinder 1E in 23:
1-5: Its not Pathfinder 2E. So stfu and take my money !
Thats at least my opinion :D
Having just finally had a look at Pathfinder 2E...I like the cut of your jib. 🙂
I'm late to the party here, but great video! I hope I can continue to find PF1e coverage from you, as the system deserves the attention, even being over a decade old. The whole WotC controversy really boosted PF2e, but it's just not crunchy in the way I love. I hope you branch out into the amazing 3PP content for PF1e, as you can find so many revolutionary ideas and concepts that change it into a whole new game!
In the last reason of this video, you precisely nailed with great words why I don't find much fun in dnd 5e and PF 2 systems.
Playing with PF 1 set of rules in dnd 5 lore is my favorite setup today.
I think I will follow and evolve in campaigns, but I will stick to pf1 rules for PF campaigns or Forgotten Realms modern campaigns.
Yes, some tweaks to numbers in dnd 5 campaigns have to be adapted for equilibrium, but it's worth it.
Jess Montgomery makes a really good point. Another HUGE advantage of PF1 is the staggering amount of exceptional 3rd party products made for it; Freeport, all Midgard products (including Southlands), the perilous vistas series, the Lost Lands, the mythic companion books from Legendary games and so much more. All these companies have switched their products to 5e and in my opinion PF2 suffers greatly from it. My friends and me have so many of these products and we don't regret buying them.
The Pathfinder 1e starter set was excellent. I hadn't been a DM since 2nd addition DnD, but that starter made it really easy to dive back in. And for the DM on a budget, the Pathfinder 1e content is pretty inexpensive.
This is a wonderful video. Nothing has been able to match Pathfinder in my eyes to this day.
i like how i got a dnd beyond add on this video
Great list. I've played since the beginning and tried 2e for a year and just came here to see how others felt - I am not liking how 2e ignores things like disrupting casters to make it feel balanced.. the old school feel of a powerful caster is still possible in 1e, but held in check by those that know to just interrupt with readied actions. Going back to 1e for that reason number 1 primarily. Awesome video
This is the first time I’ve stumbled upon your channel and I had to say, well done. This was a really good video
In my current game we are using the Wordcasting alternative magic system to replicate the Shouts of Skyrim as our party is playing in the Nirn setting of Elder Scrolls as Nord Tongues
The tough choice I'm weighing right now is onboarding new players to the hobby. Definitely using PF, but trying to pick 1e vs 2e...I love PF 1e, certainly over D&D 5e. But trying to balance between love and experience with 1e and best experience for new players. Brand new players with 0 TTRPG experience. And I really want to hook them, lol
Definitely not an easy choice. Some players might respond well to 2e, but I think for ones that have a clear idea of what they want to play, 1e is best because it has more options.
I played my first ever ttrpg 2 weeks ago and it was pathfinder 1e. Personally I really liked it and the other 2 new players playing with me liked it to.
But my DM helped us make our character before the game and encouraged us to use d20pfsrd to learn about our class and all that.
So by the time the game started, I already knew what I wanted to do up to level 4 (we started at level 1).
Pathfinder 1E is the best and most fun. Every class has their time to shine. The potential customization is off the charts. 5E and Pathfinder 2E limits you so much.
agreed the limitations of both systems are why im not interested in them
Yeah if you like to build munchkins it's ideal. Most people, me included, hate that. Especially in TTRPGs...
@@NickStrife yep plus PF1 actually gives advice on homebrewing stuff which I'm fairly certain those 2 don't
@@dragonlord498 They do, they are just less crunchy and I am fine with that.. As a DM I can determine what my players can and cannot do so I don't need very specific guidelines about how to balance things around their party..
There are no limitations in 5e and PF 2e unless you lack some specific braincells...
On the Corruption System: Even though Mind Flayers are not canon to Pathfinder/Golarion, I've always wanted to write up a 'Illithid Corruption' for use with Pathfinder.
There is a 'class' in one of the psionic books for 3.5 edition that lets you slowly pick up Illithid like abilities, and that should be a good starting point for such a corruption (if I can ever get my lazy butt up and actually do it, that is, especially now since a certain game has made Mind Flayers popular 😅)
I was wondering if you ever tried Dreamscarred Presses Ulitmate Psionics. It actually creates Psionic Classes for characters including spells, magic items, powers etc. Some of them kind of have the same class names as in Occult Adventures, but I think Ultimate Psionics is truer to 2nd AD&D with 3rd edition rules. Great video and I invested to much in Pathfinder 1e to go to another system now, unless it's in a different genre.
I haven't seen Ultimate Psionics, but I'll have to check it out. I'm a big fan of the occult classes, but they feel very different from older D&D psionics.
@@d6damage93 Well that's what this does it takes it back to 2ndAD&D it uses points for pyshic powers, and they just updated it for pathfinder 1e. I really like it a lot it's more to the original system I think. I just bought the book last year so they shoud still be in print.
Been trying to find videos on youtube to help me learn the system, since I'm seriously considering switching systems, and even try my hand as DM'ing. Unfortunately, whenever I try to search for such videos on youtue, it thinks I actually meant to find guides for 2E instead. Don't suppose anyone here could help me out and point me in the right direction.
Heyo!
I'm still out here trying to make the Unchained action economy work.
Edit: I definitely like the shit out of 2e, though. Really well made system. Just like 1e is.
Gonna be the DM for my friends,they finally gonna play Pathfinder 1e.
For the bestiary don’t forget the Villain Codex and Monster Codex as well as unique monsters from individual adventures like the mask golem from Mask of the Living God.
I'm personally more interested in PF1e because of my experience playing Wrath of the Righteous and Neverwinter Nights 2. Some of the stuff I've heard that's different in 2e seems to deviate too much from what I'm used to. I'm sure a lot of other people are interested in 1e because of Kingmaker and WOTR.
would you be interested in doing a review of my 1e dragonball inspired race/class/prestige class/ and mythic path? i've been wanting to switch to a general RPG commenter channel for a while and i've been subscribed to here for a while and am looking to collab more
What's everyone's favorite class.
Mine is Alchemist
I've been theorycrafting an Arcanist conjurer idea for a Diety hunter.
It's kinda dope
Magus. My PC of 5+ years is a Kitsune Eldritch Scion (we needed s face... lol)
Also big fan of the Psionics rules.
@@barttmorris5592 Construct Rider and judicial use of the modified construct rules was some of the most fun I've had with dice.
1e was certainly intimidating for me at first glance, with all the first party stuff to sift through that has been added to the game overtime; third party/homebrew stuff is a mountain of content in and of itself.
Love the pf beastiary, but I find it too small. It needs to go on forever.
Which is why it has creature creation rules in the back of every bestiary, barring that just /ke a few monster groups you like, find a theme and a couple universal abilities and whatnot then fit them in to make your own easy templates if you don't want to design them from the ground up. Use differing physical descriptors, remove some prominent trait maybe, or maybe make it into less of a physical challenge and see if you can generate a logic/tactics/ethical puzzle out of what you already have access to. Hope it helps even a bit~
Like - 1e lets you run for office. It has rules for that. It has rules for literally WHATEVER you want. It's SO accommodating.
Honestly I’m going back to the d20 system because I’m so bored with 5e. I like Pathfinder and DnD 3.5’s prestige classes where you have to earn and plan for that specialization. Weapons feeling different.
And also just the sheer variety of books for the d20 system. You have access to Conan the Barbarian books, Pathfinder, World of Warcraft and DnD3.5 all can be used together with minimal effort.
Hello good sir. Do you have any advice for running high level pathfinder? Starting a campaign at level 12 soonish.
one more reason to add, races have bonuses and flaws.... +X to stat, -X to another stat... short races are slower then medium and large....
The Ultimate Campaign book is the reason.
Stealth ranged attacks are always the best in Bethesda games.
This comment seems its from a different video.
@30noir lol I have had that happen before, but I was referring to his fallout 3 comment in the later half of the video.
I’m tempted to shift to pathfinder (3.5e). Not a fan of 5e as a DM and my players are not fans of the OSR classes and their “sameness” (ie lack of class abilities).
Ha, I would consider 'Mechanically rewarding' as a negative. Anyone who is new to the game will have a much harder time than someone who knows all of the twists and turns in the mechanics. GURPS is my go to, as the mechanics are very simple (if overly detailed when you dig into the optional rules). There isn't any gotchas or deep understanding of feat trees you need to know.
Love From a Vaush Fan!
What?
Also PF1 still has psionics :D
I love Pathfinder, however if done right/wrong the gms will be forced to beef up monsters. Had a group where everyone but me could one hit kill raaks but I could get any skill check with a 60+, with perform being the highest of 185 before rolling
1. It's not owned by Hasbro. 2. It's not sanitized like D&D
Paizo going down that route
3.5 and pathfinder 1e are the last not woke books. pf2e and DnD 5.5 are terribly woke.
Really ought to check out ( if you can find it) some older d&d “ fringe “ source books ( The Blue Book of Spells ) were very not p c
@mirieus this one reason I starting play Castles and Crusades
Why do your S's have an echo
Me d6 could you help me with a skald build?
I would definitely check out the skald video I did. That will be a good starting point. Beyond that your party composition means a lot. Class features like Raging Song won't work well unless you have some strong front-line fighters to give the bonuses to.
@@d6damage93 Thank you so much
1. Warpriest
2. Warpriest
3. Warpriest
4. Warpriest
5. Amiri/Seoni
My big issue with pathfinder in general is that the "variety" offered by it is contextualized by the rules being designed in such a way that every time you do something that's not in your character page (e.g: combat maneuvers, fainting, hitting with a different part of your weapon, having a pet, using insults to grab a bad guys attention, setting traps, or anything creative really.) Then you cannot do it. My most infuriating one is wild shape. You can turn into a earth elemental and you do not gain the ability to earth glide like an elemental, instead you can use your rock hands to dig by RAW. The shifter class is an even bigger mess. The class that's supposed to be the paladin to the druid's cleric and it honestly so limiting its embarrassing. How is the base druid a better wild shaper than the shifter druid who specializes in wild shaping? Like, how is a shifter only able to shift into their animal forms that are previously selected instead of the freedom druid has? Why is it limited to animals unlike druid? Why can't fighters who are combat masters need to pick up a feat for unarmed combat or basic combat maneuvers like grabbing, pushing, or pulling. Game balance? If your game balance implies that you need to invest heavily into a specific thing to not feel neutered while doing it is just the worst way to pitch the whole "lots of options" thing. Like, of course there's lots of options, you can't do anything without that optional, elusive, and unnecessary feat/feat tree. Whirlwind attack (spinning in a circle with the pointy part facing away from you is a 3 feat investment. Dodge, mobility, Whirlwind attack. Why? No reason, game would be too fun without all these minor inconveniences they put in your way just to sell you the solution to the problems they made. My time playing pathfinder has been really fun and all the enjoyment came from the people I play with. The game itself I cannot stand.
pathfinder 2 doesn't work above all the magic it is useless to say that it has been nerfed it is different everything is really wrong and there are no ways to improve because the critic system blocks everything you have to play it to understand what I am saying but as long as I can I will post on every video I see of people who still believes that it was necessary to improve path1 instead of creating path2 just make a warrior and put an archetype on him and it will be better than anything you can invent yourself I hate magic in path2 and I don't understand how paizo doesn't explain the thousands of questions that are asked about a game that is not even clear on certain points
Paladins suck in pf2
@@mirieus everything suck in pathfinder due
@@maxnever5863 🤣 totally agree
@@mirieus 😂
I cut my teeth on the system.
Do you see an A in the word 'bestiary'? It's pronounced "bes-chee-eh-ree".
NO
reason one is not shit
We play 1e with everything thats on the d20pfsrd website. God the game is broken
Over 2e? Hell no 😂
We still play Pathfinder 1e and this August will be the game's 15th anniversary....too bad Paizo will not do anything for the event.