@@sigmoidsharer3012he knows all of this 💩 because he's witnessed it by being around since the beginning with the ETERNALS & the Infinity Stones... *DON'T MOCK HIS YOUTH RESTORATION PRODUCTS!*😹
Those are such a rip off. One because it doesn't even have any real flavor from what people have said. And two, because they are ridiculously priced. The stick itself is like 70 bucks for the basic one and 100 for the "nicer" one(stained a different color). For a piece of wood and metal with no electronics in it. Don't promote trash products to people. Oh and also, those cores come in packs of three for 10$...but they only last three days at the most and they even say on their website it will prob only last for a day. Absolute rip off. All because it looks trendy. Might as well just suck air through a straw.
Evan Peters was not stunt casting. he was the only actor that could create the same confusion in the audience that Wanda experienced on the show. it was brilliant casting.
@@Scooter323 I'm going to be very honest, I laughed my ass off during the scene. While I still hate the whole Ralph boner bs it was a clever and humorous tie back. That being said I still didn't like the original plot point
my roommate said "i don't like that he makes the dog talk." i said "oh, the dog doesn't really talk, that's just him doing that voice." and then she glared at me
There’s one video where the editor messed up and they showed him doing Doug’s voice and that shattered the illusion forever. Next we’ll find out it’s just the same Doug footage recycled over and over and Doug has a completely different haircut these days.
Wanda finally killing tony stark (dr. Doom) at the end of secret wars and reset the universe will be a chefs kiss. The two biggest names in marvel. Rdj vs Elizabeth Olsen. Let's cook
I think it's more like this... Producer Guy : So Wanda and Vision just so happened to get a home in the same neighborhood as someone who looks exactly like Quicksilver from X-Men. Writer Guy : Uh huh Producer Guy : What are the odds of that? Writer Guy : I don't knooow? Producer Guy : Well okay when. And has nothing to do with secret wars.
Kinda don't want him to be a variant of Quicksilver, even tho even the comics joke that he's basically a mini-Quicksilver. Eventually they did differentiate his power from Pietro by how Tommy can vibrate so fast he either explodes something, or phases himself and people he's holding through other things by vibrating out of sync with other material objects. The latter power was an allusion to Vision's phasing powers and helped to link them a little more.
If you listen to the Audio Description version of WandaVision, they actually announce Quicksilver’s first couple scenes as “Pietro from the X-men films.”
It could still be just a red herring boner joke, but I think there’s a bigger plan to reveal some multiversal connection between the Quicksilvers of the MCU and of the X-men franchise.
There probably is some truth to this. I do agree that Tommy probably won't appear in Agatha All Along and that he should be one of the bigger focus' in VisionQuest, however, having Tommy's soul be out in the multiverse is a bit too out there until proven otherwise. It would really seem like Tommy got shorthanded if his soul is in a different universe and Billy's soul was right outside Westview. But since we don't know what the VisionQuest series is going to be yet aside from the Ultron return and the dynamic that Ultron and Vision could have, I guess anything is up for grabs.
Adapting the comics origins, Tommy is more than likely in a government facility, with protections to hide it. The same government agency will want to regain it's property, Vision, and this is where the two will meet in visionquest.
Tommy gets experimented on in the comics, right? How cool would it be if the one experimenting on him was Sublime or Mr. Sinister, or any of the Weapon X scientists? Sinister *does* have a history of experimenting on kids. 🤔
Ok, imagine past you reads of two upcoming Marvel shows with these basic descriptions; SECRET INVASION - The Skrulls have infiltrated every aspect of life on Earth, and only Nick Fury can stop them before they unleash their secret invasion plan! AGATHA ALL ALONG - Agatha and a mysterious Teen gather a coven of misfit Witches to travel the legendary Witches Road to make their wishes come true! Would you have ever, ever, have expected, that Agatha would be so vastly better of a show? Fucking expectations man.
@@Red_Oliver Well, Agatha is obviously spectacular. Secret Invasion was brought down by extremely high and unrealistic expectations which led to a supposed "big letdown". People have to understand how impossible it was/is to make Secret Invasion what they wanted and why it couldn't be done. I think Marvel did their best with what they were realistically able to do.
@@abivalentin8331 High expectations? No the show was shitty. In episode 1 they revealed who all the secret skrulls were, and in the last episode they made a character to powerful to ever revisit. There was no mystery in that mystery thriller. It was awful from start to finish Marvel did absolute shit with what they were realistically able to do and it showed.
@@Red_Oliver By high expectations, I meant that people wanted to see big-name heroes/villains to be revealed as Skrulls but that is literally impossible to do in a MCU live-action movie or show. And about the "character too powerful to revisit", that's a bullshit argument that is totally proven wrong by the existence of characters like Scarlet Witch, Wiccan, Captain Marvel and Doctor Strange. Marvel knew Secret Invasion would be near impossible to adapt to the MCU but they still tried to do their best anyway but I guess not everyone has the common sense to see it that way because they're too busy being ungrateful and toxic.
I had a theory right after Wandavision ended on how Billy and Tommy fighting the sword agents reminded me of that scene in DOFP and that somehow was proof that Ralph was indeed Peter Maximoff and that the Ralph name was just a name Wanda gave him on the Hex before Agatha showed up. Episode 6 seemed to disprove it, but then that song showed up on the credits of episode 7. Probably just a coincidence as the song does fit really well with Lilia's story.
Maybe Evan Peter's character in Wanda Vision was just pre-Tommy. Like Tommy, the body, before Tommy, the spirit of Wanda's kid, takes over. And speedsters kinda age different so maybe it's good that he'll look older because he could be much older than 40. If he's lived hundred of years being a speedster through time then it would make sense that he's cast a Lil older to seem wiser or more experienced. Or who knows what will happen
As good as the song is, I think "Time After Time" wouldn't have been a good choice for the end credits due to the tone of the episode. (Especially the ending.)
Yeah but the intro to "Time in a Bottle" ties more into the very end of the show. It plays over the tail end of the last scene. The intro to "Time After Time" wouldn't work as well as the opener is a bit longer and wouldn't cut as well.
I definitely think that the end of Agatha All Along & the Vision Quest series will set up the Young Avengers & the Children's Crusade comic storyline. Avengers Doomsday/Secret Wars will be a redemption arc of the Scarlett Witch. I'm excited to see what happens!
I have a theory about Agatha all along. I think Wanda and Agatha switch bodies when Wanda trapped Agatha in westpoint at the end of WandaVision. The Agatha we see in Agatha All Along is Wanda and the Wanda that was in DS:MoM was Agatha.
I find it hilarious that Disney painted themselves into a corner exactly the same way the comics did years ago. Like it all gets convoluted and entangled making a need to write in a slate wiping incident, sometimes more than once, to get things back on a simpler path. Disney could have learned from this, but it seems power creep and plot contrivances are Anchor Events in the universe to keep everything all together. HOLY CRAP! Thats what the weaver thing and Loki are doing right now!! Holding everything together so we don't spawn new comics that conflict with the sacred plot!
I think that’s the inevitable outcome of having such a large universe that you absolutely have to use different writers and directors for different productions. Even if there’s a grand plan, it’s never completely fleshed out at first so things have to be filled in and that kind of happens in a disorganized way. It’s literally impossible for Kevin Feige to have his eye on every single thing in every single show/movie. Plus with movies you have to deal with real world events like Chadwick Boseman dying and Jonathan Majors being arrested; production issues like the pandemic and the strikes; and demands from corporate that can change at any time for a wide variety of reasons including box office results and corporate personnel changes-and those events have to be dealt with on a case by case basis. Add in that Marvel movies have been made by multiple studios who were never even trying to be cohesive with each other, and this is what you get.
@@Roadiedave My marvel timeline: 10/26/24 update -All numbered content is the MCU/sacred timeline. Those are the movies, shows and shorts that you want to watch in order. -Anything marked with a “•” is additional/optional content for the advanced fan added by myself -The key to the symbols are located at the bottom of the list. -The infinity saga is loopers and the following sagas are all arranged by me. --infinity saga-- 1. Iron man 2.iron man 2 3.Incredible Hulk 4. The consultant (*marvel one shot) 5. Funny thing happened (*) 6. Thor 7. Capt. America 8. Agent Carter (*) •[@-Agent Carter] 9. Avengers •[A@-AOS S1:E6] 10. Item 47 (*) •[%-Cloak and dagger] •[@-Defenders saga] •[A@-AOS S1:E2-5] •[A@-AOS S1:E7] •[A@-AOS S1:E10-16] 11. Capt. America & winter soldier •[A@-AOS S1:E17-19] 12. Thor: dark world •[A@-Agents of shield S1:E8] •[A@-AOS S1:E1] 13. Iron man 3 14. All hail the king (*) 15. Guardians of the galaxy 16. Avengers: age of ultron •[A@-AOS S1:E9] 17. Ant man 18. Capt. America: civil war 19. Black panther 20. Spider man: homecoming 21. Guardians of the galaxy 2 22. Dr. Strange 23. Thor: ragnarok 24. Infinity war 25. Ant man & the wasp 26. Capt. Marvel 27. Endgame ---after tony saga--- 28. Spider man: far from home 29. Thor: love and thunder 30. Falcon and the winter soldier 31. Black widow 32. Hawkeye 33. Guardians of the galaxy: xmas special 34. Guardians of the galaxy 3 35. Echo 36. Shang-chi 37. She hulk 38. Wakanda forever 39. Secret invasion 40. Moon knight 41. Werewolf by night 42. Wandavision --multiverse saga-- 43. Loki S1 44. What if S:1 45. Quantumania 46. Loki S:2 47. What if S:2 48. Madame web ($-Sonyverse) 49. Venom ($) 50. Into the spider verse ($) 51. Venom 2 ($) •[%-Spider man 1-3] •[%-Amazing Spider Man 1-2] 52. Spider man: no way home 53. Morbius ($) 54. Dr. Strange: multiverse of madness 55. Across the spider verse ($) 56. Venom 3 ($) 57. Ms. Marvel 58. The marvels •[@-X-men 96] 58. X-men 97 •[%-Fox X-men saga] 59. Deadpool 60. Deadpool 2 •[%-Fox Daredevil] •[%-Elektra] •[%-Fox Punisher] •[%-Fox Fantastic 4 (C. Evans version)] •[%-Rise of the silver surfer] •[%-Blade Trilogy] 61. Wolverine and Deadpool 62. Agatha all along 63. The eternals 64. Capt. America: brave new world(€) 65. Thunderbolts(€) -Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. watch in progress. -I included Deadpool Into the mcu timeline because he is now a part of the mcu and his three movies add to the continuity of the timeline. -I recently added the defenders, fox-verse, and agent Carter as accompanying sagas; to the main timeline. I will add AOS, as soon as I can figure out when those episodes take place. -Maybe even…the inhumans, legion and the runaways? -The new mutants does not fit in the timeline. I watched it and I can’t find any references to the list. Unreleased content as of 10/25/24: 1.Thunderbolts(€) 2.Capt. America: brave new world(€) 3.Fantastic 4 4Avengers: Doomsday 5.Avengers: Secret wars 6.Daredevil: born again 7.Ironheart 8.Your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man 9.Marvel zombies 10.Kraven 11.eyes of wakanda 12.Xmen97 S:2 13.What if… S:3 14.Wonder man 15.Spider-man Noir 16.Dr. Strange 3 17.Spider-man 4 €-from the looks of it, these two movies may continue where the eternals left off. We just have to wait and see (update: the eternals is the build up to CA brave new world and Thunderbolts so I placed it after Deadpool and Wolverine). @-stand-alone sagas that are seperate, but still contribute to the continuity of the sacred timeline. %-included for the hell of it. You don’t have to watch the fox movies, but it kinda adds to the WADP and SMNWH cameos. Separately, I also included Cloak and dagger under this category because it mentions Luke Cage and Misty. A-Agents of shield episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline Let me know what you think and enjoy the list! P.S. Madam web is trash. I put it there because it introduces the web of events, and opens up the 616 to the Sonyverse; post what if…S:2. May god have mercy on the souls of the people that made this movie.
It’s possible Billy and Tommy were both originally from other universes. I don’t think Wanda just created them from nowhere if they really exist in these other universes. I think she may have pulled these “souls” from another universe to begin with. But in these other universes, who tf is there dad? There’s no way Wanda and Vision ever have kids together for real. How does Wanda end up with these kids in other universes? That’s what I want to know.
I think the end goal is right i think they want to bring them all to one universe. The rest i feel is way to early to speculate. Because they still have alot of time to change or add stuff
@@OtakuTalkOD The *REAL* question is, if his AUTOINCORRECT did 💩 like that to him, would he be able to turn it off, despite meaning he would be losing his only friend in his mom's basement?!🤔🤪😹
I firmly believe We/Billy/Wiccan won't see Tommy/Speed at the end of Agatha All Along but instead, learn his location. I also believe The Young Avengers will be formed on Battleworld because I don't think there's any way that they can meet/team-up otherwise due to how far apart they are from each other and that they don't have any knowledge of each others existence much less where to find them (Except for Ms. Marvel, Hawkeye and Stature. I'm mostly talking about Wiccan, Speed, Ironheart, America Chavez, Patriot and Hulkling if they ever introduce him). Desperately waiting for a Young Avengers movie or show!
Vision was also a part of young avengers. Iron Lad downloaded Vision's AI into his suit and when he left he let Vision have the suit and create a new body for himself. It would be interesting to have three of the family together again trying to save Wanda. Interesting that Sue Storm got with Doom in Secret Wars, Wanda got with Doom in Chlodren's Crusade storyline and it doesn't seem far fetched that the MCU could just mash those two sttories together.
I didn’t like Fox movies Americanizing a lot of X-men characters, like Colossus (at first), Pyro, Toad, Quicksilver, Lady Deathstrike, Banshee and several others. Now Marvel can finally portray them more accurately with the appropriate actors.
Vision’s theories on the multiverse led him to find Randal Bohner as a variant of Pietro Maximoff and that’s what inspired him to choose that specific plot of land to move into.
WAIT ur explanation of Mephisto is REALLY similar to the tarot meaning for The Devil card. Where it represents addiction. Its probably a DUH moment cause he IS the marvel devil but maybe mephisto reveal with tarot cards in Agatha? 👀👀
wouldn't Quicksilver be hearing time in a bottle slowed down as much as the world around him? Just to go full nerd on something that doesn't need it haha
My theory during the end of Wandavision, was Ralph Boner was a Quicksilver variant on the 616 and had been caught by shield/fbi or some government agency. I I figured he was the the person the FBI was monitoring and the one Jimmy Woo was heading to check up on. The silly name even fit with Evan Peter’ Quocksilver’s immature personality and would be the type of name he would pick.
I say that, if anything, there will be a post-credit type scene at the end of the Agatha All Along finale that will at least hint at White Vision finding Tommy. There's a good chance that Tommy hasn't even been casted yet, so they'll just show the back of a random kid's head as filler.
I think Tommy is a lot closer than we think; the dead body at the beginning of the show is the true hint. Vision didn't upload the mindstone data, just his memories to White Vision.
I'm really hoping that we find out that "Ralph/Ronald" has been living in those tunnels (or in that train) over the past 3 years and that he saves Lilia's fall (Quicksilver style scene- hence the music) in the final two episodes. He might not know he has these powers yet. I really don't think Disney would fork out the money to have Evan Peters do these cameos nor would Evan even sign on to Marvel without a bigger character in play.... (Quicksilver or not, he's something more and I think Disney is laying/sprinkling in the ground work for who ever he will play in the future)
I don't know, I feel like the song at the end of the episode wasn't about Billy. But I could be wrong. Things in this show have had more than one meaning
Yeah I thought it was more so connected to the witch they had been focusing on, who had a connection to time hopping of sorts.... especially since it went back to OG kid witch when she started hoping, and she looked super happy... that and the vibe of the song works very well to wrap up that characters journey. Not saying I'm right, but that I agree with you on it not connecting in the way SC is presenting it to be.
I hope Marvel hasn’t given up on the America Chavez character. It would be interesting to see Billy approach her for help in finding Tommy in the multiverse. Especially if Marvel doesn’t have him go full power set yet where he can do it himself. On the one hand, America would understand what the loss of family is like (as she’s likely still looking for her mother’s) On the other hand, she’ll understand the repercussions of multiversal traveling. Not to mention having fought and seen the 3rd (?) redemption of Wanda and the dangerous lengths she’s gone through in order to get her boys back. America Chavez would feel conflicted about what do.
Well, we do know that if the sigil explains why Wanda didn't know Billy was out there as Billiam, then they can't have Tommy just walking around out there.
Naaa bro ... Tommy's soul will have found a body similar to how Billy did, easier story to tell and less costly to shoot than multiversal travel...if Billy's desire is to find Tommy by the end of Agatha he will be given the clue...if Agatha survive than she may help him or Vision may clue into Billy after the road and his powers are amp'ed up or will have set out to find both Billy and Tommy himself...finding Tommy first because of the sigil that was put on Billy. Ms Marvel has already linked up with Kate Bishop and with the SHEILD ipad she will help connect the rest of the young avengers meet ups
So how does Bohner run with super speed in that clip you showed? Does Agatha have the power to give people super speed? Agatha may have brainwashed him but I still think he's quicksilver.
We don't like to joke about Mephisto... we're forced to by the incessant need of some Marvel fans to see the devil in the MCU. I personally don't need the devil in real life or fiction.
Feel like the point at hand was poked at in dr strange's mom with scarlet witch taking her kids from a Wanda that didn't have powers which I like to think illustrated that different versions of said characters have normal counterparts unrelated to their superpowered counterparts.
Alt Wanda did have powers, she flew back to her kids after Evil Wanda left her body, just not sure why she didn't use those powers at the end to protect her kids.
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How many products do you use. Man?? Like every 2nd video has some product related to mental health and all of them helped😂
@@sigmoidsharer3012he knows all of this 💩 because he's witnessed it by being around since the beginning with the ETERNALS & the Infinity Stones...
*DON'T MOCK HIS YOUTH RESTORATION PRODUCTS!*😹
Those are such a rip off. One because it doesn't even have any real flavor from what people have said. And two, because they are ridiculously priced.
The stick itself is like 70 bucks for the basic one and 100 for the "nicer" one(stained a different color). For a piece of wood and metal with no electronics in it.
Don't promote trash products to people.
Oh and also, those cores come in packs of three for 10$...but they only last three days at the most and they even say on their website it will prob only last for a day.
Absolute rip off. All because it looks trendy. Might as well just suck air through a straw.
That's why you guys should right for Marvel. I been saying it. ❤
@@christophermarzett4347 write
Evan Peters was not stunt casting. he was the only actor that could create the same confusion in the audience that Wanda experienced on the show. it was brilliant casting.
Big stunt casting bro. It’s a boner joke.
Everyone seems to love this and eat it up, I hated it. Each their own tho.
@@OtakuTalkODyou don’t like his scene in Agatha All Along?
@@Scooter323 I'm going to be very honest, I laughed my ass off during the scene. While I still hate the whole Ralph boner bs it was a clever and humorous tie back. That being said I still didn't like the original plot point
If they wanted us to be confused they could've cast a nobody. But they pulled a stunt.
Tommy’s soul being in Ralph would be horrendous
😂
“No more multiverse.” - Wanda (as she defeats Doom), maybe. Hopefully
Probably 🤣
Wanda dead af
@@rewy11 nah fam she gonna hit that respawn button soon.
She can't. That belongs to a cosmic being that would. Not. Take. That. Well.
my roommate said "i don't like that he makes the dog talk."
i said "oh, the dog doesn't really talk, that's just him doing that voice." and then she glared at me
Your roommate is weird for not liking that part anyway
The talking dog is the main reason I like this channel
@@DailyNihilismDougHive 4 Life 😂😂
Oh, You live w/ a Karen…God bless you
There’s one video where the editor messed up and they showed him doing Doug’s voice and that shattered the illusion forever.
Next we’ll find out it’s just the same Doug footage recycled over and over and Doug has a completely different haircut these days.
Wanda finally killing tony stark (dr. Doom) at the end of secret wars and reset the universe will be a chefs kiss. The two biggest names in marvel. Rdj vs Elizabeth Olsen. Let's cook
And it would match Wanda's original goal, to kill Tony Stark for the bomb that killed her parents. Cathartic.
Elizabeth Olsen the biggest name in marvel? 😂😂😂😂😂
@@dommorris8163Girl you need to be updated
I'll do you one better.. WHY is Tommy?
The Adventures of Doug is a short series we need!! Starting with what happened in St. Louis.
I’d watch that in a heartbeat
By the time the Young Avengers come about will probably be old enough just to be the Avengers
I think it's more like this...
Producer Guy : So Wanda and Vision just so happened to get a home in the same neighborhood as someone who looks exactly like Quicksilver from X-Men.
Writer Guy : Uh huh
Producer Guy : What are the odds of that?
Writer Guy : I don't knooow?
Producer Guy : Well okay when.
And has nothing to do with secret wars.
The only important thing for me is that when they're searching for him they sing, "Tommy, can you hear me?" from The Who's 'Tommy' score.
Ditto!
Papa can you hear me
Kinda don't want him to be a variant of Quicksilver, even tho even the comics joke that he's basically a mini-Quicksilver. Eventually they did differentiate his power from Pietro by how Tommy can vibrate so fast he either explodes something, or phases himself and people he's holding through other things by vibrating out of sync with other material objects. The latter power was an allusion to Vision's phasing powers and helped to link them a little more.
The scarlet witch has slowly became my favorite MCU character this saga
My current vision: Billy will find Vision at the end of the Witch's Road and they both set off to fins Tommy.
This could be possible, than he'll be part of Vision Quest helping to find Tommy.
If you listen to the Audio Description version of WandaVision, they actually announce Quicksilver’s first couple scenes as “Pietro from the X-men films.”
It could still be just a red herring boner joke, but I think there’s a bigger plan to reveal some multiversal connection between the Quicksilvers of the MCU and of the X-men franchise.
I also wonder if his name is connected to the old comic book meaning of “boner” as a mistake.
There probably is some truth to this. I do agree that Tommy probably won't appear in Agatha All Along and that he should be one of the bigger focus' in VisionQuest, however, having Tommy's soul be out in the multiverse is a bit too out there until proven otherwise. It would really seem like Tommy got shorthanded if his soul is in a different universe and Billy's soul was right outside Westview. But since we don't know what the VisionQuest series is going to be yet aside from the Ultron return and the dynamic that Ultron and Vision could have, I guess anything is up for grabs.
Adapting the comics origins, Tommy is more than likely in a government facility, with protections to hide it.
The same government agency will want to regain it's property, Vision, and this is where the two will meet in visionquest.
I think so too!
Tommy gets experimented on in the comics, right? How cool would it be if the one experimenting on him was Sublime or Mr. Sinister, or any of the Weapon X scientists? Sinister *does* have a history of experimenting on kids. 🤔
Speaking as someone from St Louis, Doug IS welcome in St Louis 😊
They've simplified Billy's story for MCU, so I think they'll do the same for Tommy's in MCU, hopefully we'll see it in Vision Quest!
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Ok, imagine past you reads of two upcoming Marvel shows with these basic descriptions;
SECRET INVASION - The Skrulls have infiltrated every aspect of life on Earth, and only Nick Fury can stop them before they unleash their secret invasion plan!
AGATHA ALL ALONG - Agatha and a mysterious Teen gather a coven of misfit Witches to travel the legendary Witches Road to make their wishes come true!
Would you have ever, ever, have expected, that Agatha would be so vastly better of a show? Fucking expectations man.
They both sound good to me so....
@@abivalentin8331 And were they?
@@Red_Oliver Well, Agatha is obviously spectacular. Secret Invasion was brought down by extremely high and unrealistic expectations which led to a supposed "big letdown". People have to understand how impossible it was/is to make Secret Invasion what they wanted and why it couldn't be done. I think Marvel did their best with what they were realistically able to do.
@@abivalentin8331 High expectations? No the show was shitty. In episode 1 they revealed who all the secret skrulls were, and in the last episode they made a character to powerful to ever revisit. There was no mystery in that mystery thriller. It was awful from start to finish Marvel did absolute shit with what they were realistically able to do and it showed.
@@Red_Oliver By high expectations, I meant that people wanted to see big-name heroes/villains to be revealed as Skrulls but that is literally impossible to do in a MCU live-action movie or show. And about the "character too powerful to revisit", that's a bullshit argument that is totally proven wrong by the existence of characters like Scarlet Witch, Wiccan, Captain Marvel and Doctor Strange. Marvel knew Secret Invasion would be near impossible to adapt to the MCU but they still tried to do their best anyway but I guess not everyone has the common sense to see it that way because they're too busy being ungrateful and toxic.
They can start over with many XMen characters. But please keep Evans on as Quicksilver!! He deserves more!
I will never accept that he wasn't a quicksilver variant
Unrelated, by that Fum thing is literally an adult pacifier. That's crazy
I had a theory right after Wandavision ended on how Billy and Tommy fighting the sword agents reminded me of that scene in DOFP and that somehow was proof that Ralph was indeed Peter Maximoff and that the Ralph name was just a name Wanda gave him on the Hex before Agatha showed up. Episode 6 seemed to disprove it, but then that song showed up on the credits of episode 7. Probably just a coincidence as the song does fit really well with Lilia's story.
Maybe Evan Peter's character in Wanda Vision was just pre-Tommy. Like Tommy, the body, before Tommy, the spirit of Wanda's kid, takes over. And speedsters kinda age different so maybe it's good that he'll look older because he could be much older than 40. If he's lived hundred of years being a speedster through time then it would make sense that he's cast a Lil older to seem wiser or more experienced. Or who knows what will happen
This a stretch that would make Mr. Fantastic blush.
I want Ralph to be quicksilver so badly
Too expensive for main timeline
12:40 I think you need to add a one man show in Paramus, NJ
As good as the song is, I think "Time After Time" wouldn't have been a good choice for the end credits due to the tone of the episode. (Especially the ending.)
Yeah but the intro to "Time in a Bottle" ties more into the very end of the show. It plays over the tail end of the last scene. The intro to "Time After Time" wouldn't work as well as the opener is a bit longer and wouldn't cut as well.
@@NickScaramuzzo That's basically what I said?
I definitely think that the end of Agatha All Along & the Vision Quest series will set up the Young Avengers & the Children's Crusade comic storyline. Avengers Doomsday/Secret Wars will be a redemption arc of the Scarlett Witch. I'm excited to see what happens!
I have a theory about Agatha all along. I think Wanda and Agatha switch bodies when Wanda trapped Agatha in westpoint at the end of WandaVision. The Agatha we see in Agatha All Along is Wanda and the Wanda that was in DS:MoM was Agatha.
I find it hilarious that Disney painted themselves into a corner exactly the same way the comics did years ago. Like it all gets convoluted and entangled making a need to write in a slate wiping incident, sometimes more than once, to get things back on a simpler path. Disney could have learned from this, but it seems power creep and plot contrivances are Anchor Events in the universe to keep everything all together. HOLY CRAP! Thats what the weaver thing and Loki are doing right now!! Holding everything together so we don't spawn new comics that conflict with the sacred plot!
I think that’s the inevitable outcome of having such a large universe that you absolutely have to use different writers and directors for different productions. Even if there’s a grand plan, it’s never completely fleshed out at first so things have to be filled in and that kind of happens in a disorganized way. It’s literally impossible for Kevin Feige to have his eye on every single thing in every single show/movie. Plus with movies you have to deal with real world events like Chadwick Boseman dying and Jonathan Majors being arrested; production issues like the pandemic and the strikes; and demands from corporate that can change at any time for a wide variety of reasons including box office results and corporate personnel changes-and those events have to be dealt with on a case by case basis. Add in that Marvel movies have been made by multiple studios who were never even trying to be cohesive with each other, and this is what you get.
@@Roadiedave My marvel timeline: 10/26/24 update
-All numbered content is the MCU/sacred timeline. Those are the movies, shows and shorts that you want to watch in order.
-Anything marked with a “•” is additional/optional content for the advanced fan added by myself
-The key to the symbols are located at the bottom of the list.
-The infinity saga is loopers and the following sagas are all arranged by me.
--infinity saga--
1. Iron man
2.iron man 2
3.Incredible Hulk
4. The consultant (*marvel one shot)
5. Funny thing happened (*)
6. Thor
7. Capt. America
8. Agent Carter (*)
•[@-Agent Carter]
9. Avengers
•[A@-AOS S1:E6]
10. Item 47 (*)
•[%-Cloak and dagger]
•[@-Defenders saga]
•[A@-AOS S1:E2-5]
•[A@-AOS S1:E7]
•[A@-AOS S1:E10-16]
11. Capt. America & winter soldier
•[A@-AOS S1:E17-19]
12. Thor: dark world
•[A@-Agents of shield S1:E8]
•[A@-AOS S1:E1]
13. Iron man 3
14. All hail the king (*)
15. Guardians of the galaxy
16. Avengers: age of ultron
•[A@-AOS S1:E9]
17. Ant man
18. Capt. America: civil war
19. Black panther
20. Spider man: homecoming
21. Guardians of the galaxy 2
22. Dr. Strange
23. Thor: ragnarok
24. Infinity war
25. Ant man & the wasp
26. Capt. Marvel
27. Endgame
---after tony saga---
28. Spider man: far from home
29. Thor: love and thunder
30. Falcon and the winter soldier
31. Black widow
32. Hawkeye
33. Guardians of the galaxy: xmas special
34. Guardians of the galaxy 3
35. Echo
36. Shang-chi
37. She hulk
38. Wakanda forever
39. Secret invasion
40. Moon knight
41. Werewolf by night
42. Wandavision
--multiverse saga--
43. Loki S1
44. What if S:1
45. Quantumania
46. Loki S:2
47. What if S:2
48. Madame web ($-Sonyverse)
49. Venom ($)
50. Into the spider verse ($)
51. Venom 2 ($)
•[%-Spider man 1-3]
•[%-Amazing Spider Man 1-2]
52. Spider man: no way home
53. Morbius ($)
54. Dr. Strange: multiverse of madness
55. Across the spider verse ($)
56. Venom 3 ($)
57. Ms. Marvel
58. The marvels
•[@-X-men 96]
58. X-men 97
•[%-Fox X-men saga]
59. Deadpool
60. Deadpool 2
•[%-Fox Daredevil]
•[%-Elektra]
•[%-Fox Punisher]
•[%-Fox Fantastic 4 (C. Evans version)]
•[%-Rise of the silver surfer]
•[%-Blade Trilogy]
61. Wolverine and Deadpool
62. Agatha all along
63. The eternals
64. Capt. America: brave new world(€)
65. Thunderbolts(€)
-Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. watch in progress.
-I included Deadpool Into the mcu timeline because he is now a part of the mcu and his three movies add to the continuity of the timeline.
-I recently added the defenders, fox-verse, and agent Carter as accompanying sagas; to the main timeline. I will add AOS, as soon as I can figure out when those episodes take place.
-Maybe even…the inhumans, legion and the runaways?
-The new mutants does not fit in the timeline. I watched it and I can’t find any references to the list.
Unreleased content as of 10/25/24:
1.Thunderbolts(€)
2.Capt. America: brave new world(€)
3.Fantastic 4
4Avengers: Doomsday
5.Avengers: Secret wars
6.Daredevil: born again
7.Ironheart
8.Your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man
9.Marvel zombies
10.Kraven
11.eyes of wakanda
12.Xmen97 S:2
13.What if… S:3
14.Wonder man
15.Spider-man Noir
16.Dr. Strange 3
17.Spider-man 4
€-from the looks of it, these two movies may continue where the eternals left off. We just have to wait and see (update: the eternals is the build up to CA brave new world and Thunderbolts so I placed it after Deadpool and Wolverine).
@-stand-alone sagas that are seperate, but still contribute to the continuity of the sacred timeline.
%-included for the hell of it. You don’t have to watch the fox movies, but it kinda adds to the WADP and SMNWH cameos. Separately, I also included Cloak and dagger under this category because it mentions Luke Cage and Misty.
A-Agents of shield episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline
Let me know what you think and enjoy the list!
P.S. Madam web is trash. I put it there because it introduces the web of events, and opens up the 616 to the Sonyverse; post what if…S:2.
May god have mercy on the souls of the people that made this movie.
Ralph Bohner is Dayman confirmed. The boy's SOUL is mine. It begs the question, where is the troll and his confounded toll?!
😂😂😂
U gotta pay the troll toll to get into that boys hol... soul.
Day 1 of asking about what really happened in St. Louis.
" Not the bees , Ahhhhhhhhh " smh lmao...🐝🤣🐝
It’s possible Billy and Tommy were both originally from other universes. I don’t think Wanda just created them from nowhere if they really exist in these other universes. I think she may have pulled these “souls” from another universe to begin with. But in these other universes, who tf is there dad? There’s no way Wanda and Vision ever have kids together for real. How does Wanda end up with these kids in other universes? That’s what I want to know.
The only issue I have with this is that by this time all this come to fruition, the teen will not be a teen anymore.
I just hope we don’t have to wait 3 years to find Tommy.
3:38 Wanda being a magnet for other beings doesn’t make sense because Ralf lived in Westview before Wanda went there. Agatha stole his home.
I think the end goal is right i think they want to bring them all to one universe. The rest i feel is way to early to speculate. Because they still have alot of time to change or add stuff
Dougie, the people of St Louis would like to welcome you back. And, well, we just won’t talk about that “incident”
If Doug needs somewhere in St Louis to welcome him. My house is open to him.
Everyone mentions Quicksilver from the fox movies but no one ever mentions the fact he had a sister named Wanda in those fox movies and she was a baby
Why do I suddenly care more about WTF happened with Doug in St. Louis than what's happening in the MCU?!😹
Than*
(Something) more than (something)
(Something happens), then (something else happens)
@@mahzi_productions Wow so informative
@mahzi_productions the sad part is this shit really makes you feel important, doesn't it?
@@Handsome_Blackthis
@@OtakuTalkOD The *REAL* question is, if his AUTOINCORRECT did 💩 like that to him, would he be able to turn it off, despite meaning he would be losing his only friend in his mom's basement?!🤔🤪😹
The events of St. Louis cliffhanger..
When ScreenCrush goes stark raving mad, it's obvious who's certifiably crazy ideas these are.!
Just keep Colton trapped inside that TV.
I firmly believe We/Billy/Wiccan won't see Tommy/Speed at the end of Agatha All Along but instead, learn his location. I also believe The Young Avengers will be formed on Battleworld because I don't think there's any way that they can meet/team-up otherwise due to how far apart they are from each other and that they don't have any knowledge of each others existence much less where to find them (Except for Ms. Marvel, Hawkeye and Stature. I'm mostly talking about Wiccan, Speed, Ironheart, America Chavez, Patriot and Hulkling if they ever introduce him). Desperately waiting for a Young Avengers movie or show!
Okay, but now I need a Backstory Episode of Doug in St Louis.
Doug, as a born and raised St. Louisian, I grant you amnesty for any wrong doings you may have committed.
(Please add a tour stop here)
Oh Doug, did you water the Arch in St Louis?
Mister Sinister is the biggest mystery in the MCU.
1:09
1:33 1:34 1:35 1:36
There is a Mister Sinister in every universe 1:53
I like the joke about how closely Captain America and Johnny Storm look alike! Very sly 😉
So what exactly happened in St Louis? 😂
Asking the real questions… Doug.
He pooped on a cops shoe
This was amazing Shannon!
6:50 That represents Lilia and Jennifer getting thrown in the mud.
My theory is, Doom's mindcontrolled love interest as God Emperor isn't going to Sue Storm, it's going to be Wanda!
So what you're saying is ... Vision Quest will also be the Young Avengers show.
15:40 - Because... reasons.
15:45 - It'll be super-easy, barely an inconvenience.😆
Aww that's not true Doug! You can visit me in St. Louis anytime. Your secret is safe with me. 😉
I saw that fum insert from miles away.
I cannot overstate just how happy I am that Ryan is finally saying Days of Future Past correctly.
Days of THE Future.....gotcha! hahahahaha
Vision was also a part of young avengers. Iron Lad downloaded Vision's AI into his suit and when he left he let Vision have the suit and create a new body for himself. It would be interesting to have three of the family together again trying to save Wanda. Interesting that Sue Storm got with Doom in Secret Wars, Wanda got with Doom in Chlodren's Crusade storyline and it doesn't seem far fetched that the MCU could just mash those two sttories together.
I didn’t like Fox movies Americanizing a lot of X-men characters, like Colossus (at first), Pyro, Toad, Quicksilver, Lady Deathstrike, Banshee and several others. Now Marvel can finally portray them more accurately with the appropriate actors.
Only watching recaps, this show gives me no content I care to watch but appreciate folks who share what's going on.
Vision’s theories on the multiverse led him to find Randal Bohner as a variant of Pietro Maximoff and that’s what inspired him to choose that specific plot of land to move into.
I think you mean, "where's Toby?"
So sure Ralph Bohner was controlled by Agatha, didn't he also have Quicksilver's speed power in the show? How did that get explained away?
magic. it wasn't his innate power. the speed power was given to him by Agatha to complete the illusion he was Wanda's "brother".
@@trembledust6819 Gotcha, didn't realize Agatha could do that kind of stuff.
@@Mike__B She's a powerful witch with experience. deadly combo :)
In THREE words:
WE LOVE WANDA 👩🏻🦰🥰
YAS QUEEN U RULE
Now I have two questions, why was Thor crying, and what happened in St Louis?
Props for the Ben Platt burn - omfg - lmfao 😂
WAIT ur explanation of Mephisto is REALLY similar to the tarot meaning for The Devil card. Where it represents addiction. Its probably a DUH moment cause he IS the marvel devil but maybe mephisto reveal with tarot cards in Agatha? 👀👀
Plus Ralph remembers what happened in the hex. Billy does not even after the sigil was broken.
wouldn't Quicksilver be hearing time in a bottle slowed down as much as the world around him?
Just to go full nerd on something that doesn't need it haha
My theory during the end of Wandavision, was Ralph Boner was a Quicksilver variant on the 616 and had been caught by shield/fbi or some government agency. I I figured he was the the person the FBI was monitoring and the one Jimmy Woo was heading to check up on. The silly name even fit with Evan Peter’ Quocksilver’s immature personality and would be the type of name he would pick.
Shocked this wasnt an ad video
I say that, if anything, there will be a post-credit type scene at the end of the Agatha All Along finale that will at least hint at White Vision finding Tommy. There's a good chance that Tommy hasn't even been casted yet, so they'll just show the back of a random kid's head as filler.
I think Tommy is a lot closer than we think; the dead body at the beginning of the show is the true hint. Vision didn't upload the mindstone data, just his memories to White Vision.
gosh i love this channel
oooorrr just Disney and Sony not working together and casting the same company pool actors.
Sony doesn’t have anything to do with the x men lol
I envision that Vis and Tommy's reunion would be like Barry Allen and Wally West's reunion in Rebirth.
guys, Alexandria is not DC. 😭
I'm really hoping that we find out that "Ralph/Ronald" has been living in those tunnels (or in that train) over the past 3 years and that he saves Lilia's fall (Quicksilver style scene- hence the music) in the final two episodes. He might not know he has these powers yet. I really don't think Disney would fork out the money to have Evan Peters do these cameos nor would Evan even sign on to Marvel without a bigger character in play.... (Quicksilver or not, he's something more and I think Disney is laying/sprinkling in the ground work for who ever he will play in the future)
Ahh, so Mephisto influenced Peter Quil to pistol whip Thanos……
I don't know, I feel like the song at the end of the episode wasn't about Billy. But I could be wrong. Things in this show have had more than one meaning
Yeah I thought it was more so connected to the witch they had been focusing on, who had a connection to time hopping of sorts.... especially since it went back to OG kid witch when she started hoping, and she looked super happy... that and the vibe of the song works very well to wrap up that characters journey.
Not saying I'm right, but that I agree with you on it not connecting in the way SC is presenting it to be.
8:34 That would actually be hilarious to do; Young Avengers + an Old One🤣
13:13 god, I would be so ok with them turning Vision Quest into a version of Children’s Crusade and Tom King’s Vision.
It feels like the multiverse, is Marvel's "difficult second album" 🤷
I hope Marvel hasn’t given up on the America Chavez character. It would be interesting to see Billy approach her for help in finding Tommy in the multiverse. Especially if Marvel doesn’t have him go full power set yet where he can do it himself.
On the one hand, America would understand what the loss of family is like (as she’s likely still looking for her mother’s) On the other hand, she’ll understand the repercussions of multiversal traveling. Not to mention having fought and seen the 3rd (?) redemption of Wanda and the dangerous lengths she’s gone through in order to get her boys back. America Chavez would feel conflicted about what do.
I really like this set of theories, that was just mentioned, I think it sounds very interesting.
This guy can end up playing 2 separate speedsters. If Peter/Ralph Bonner dies and Tommy soul takes his body Evan could end up being around for a while
Well, we do know that if the sigil explains why Wanda didn't know Billy was out there as Billiam, then they can't have Tommy just walking around out there.
Naaa bro ... Tommy's soul will have found a body similar to how Billy did, easier story to tell and less costly to shoot than multiversal travel...if Billy's desire is to find Tommy by the end of Agatha he will be given the clue...if Agatha survive than she may help him or Vision may clue into Billy after the road and his powers are amp'ed up or will have set out to find both Billy and Tommy himself...finding Tommy first because of the sigil that was put on Billy. Ms Marvel has already linked up with Kate Bishop and with the SHEILD ipad she will help connect the rest of the young avengers meet ups
WandaVision also revealed that SWORD had a file on a John Wraith.
I think Vision Quest will be about Vision enacting the Avengers Protocol settings
I like that idea. 😄
8:35 HOW DARE YOU CALL ME OLD RYAN I'M ONLY 25 DAMN IT
So how does Bohner run with super speed in that clip you showed? Does Agatha have the power to give people super speed? Agatha may have brainwashed him but I still think he's quicksilver.
We don't like to joke about Mephisto... we're forced to by the incessant need of some Marvel fans to see the devil in the MCU.
I personally don't need the devil in real life or fiction.
I do believe that Wanda is in the void, just travelling around with amnesia
or... it is the Quicksilver from X-Men universe and he has his mind wiped, by Death , Mephisto or maybe Kang, Immortus .
Feel like the point at hand was poked at in dr strange's mom with scarlet witch taking her kids from a Wanda that didn't have powers which I like to think illustrated that different versions of said characters have normal counterparts unrelated to their superpowered counterparts.
Alt Wanda did have powers, she flew back to her kids after Evil Wanda left her body, just not sure why she didn't use those powers at the end to protect her kids.