not choosing loot hoarder over a third deadly poison is a mistake. You need 2 drops, because evis is not as good as frostbolt or darkbomb on turn 2. Also, you had very little draw in your deck, with only azure drake, which is a very slow draw mechanic. Without any healing, a third card that makes you take more damage is something you had no reason to be interested in. After two, deadly poison is SIGNIFICANTLY worse.
dude, Loot hoarder is not a real 2-drop cauz it doesnt realy trades good with other 2-drops... A real twodrop is like a 2/3 or a 3/2 but not a loot hoarder...
Erik Asmus 3 classes kill loot horder with ability: they spend 2 mana and 0 card and you spend 2 mana and 0 card (because it's significant how many cards you have in hand, not in deck). Other classes waste a card or a half a card to deal with LH. And you gain card advantage. And the most of good 2-drops are 3/2, so it clear 2 for 1 for loot hoarder.
Erik Asmus It trades very well against 3/2s, as it kills the opponent's minion and draws a Card, so it is kind of a 1 for 0. In roge it is also OK against 2/3s as you could use the dagger to finish the other minionand you still get the card advantage - it just costs 2 extra mana. And even if your opponent pings it, it will cost him 2 mana as well and you get the Card back, you that would be aneven trade.
Prime example of how Hearthstone works in Arena. You make a single misplay, you might lose. The guy had a decent play with that turn just executed it wrong.
28:20 IMO Defender of Argus would be so much better in this situation - allowing to trade 3/2 into the 7/3 and 6/6 killing 3/2, leaving you with 6/3 taunt which will return your Defender when killed. Value.
Why pick Ambusher over Puddlestomper and Healbot? Surely a vanilla 3 2 or a healbot is better (for rogue)? I'd think the deathrattle of returning a minion isn't worth the 5-5 for 4 when you have those 2 other choices...
A 1 mana 2/2 would be able to answer a lot of 2-drops (like juggler) while also being resistant to Hero Abilities and providing board pressure. Like a 2/1 Faerie dragon.
Freedfg I just got Sylvanas windrunner and onxiya on arena. My RNG changed the moment when I realized sometimes going for face is okay. Not sure if they are encouraging me to go full face.
That game against ki54 is a definite example of why I don't play HS. No matter how much skill you have as a player better card wins the game plain and simple.
Guys, i wanna ask a question. Why do people value Man Co Mercenary a good card? I mean, yeah its a 7/6, but for the upcoming turns, it messes up what you can play, and the strength in cards played would be significantly lower in value.
Krysia Łatwa i guess, but in my experience, turns 6,7 and 8 are where all the biggest creatures come out and by then, it'd be too late to change the game unless you have a twisting nether.
Bryant Goh It's not a very good card anymore tbh. Back in the day when arena was mostly about value and efficient trades, a 5 mana 7/6 was quite powerful, but since GVG arena has become much more about tempo and venture co is obviously a quite terrible tempo card.
+Trump did u know that, while u play a brewmaster and target a friendly minion, you can click on the targeted minion while the animation of the brewmaster lasts. nice thing if you wanna safe important time of your life :) enjoy your stream go on, bye
The dream, druid plays emperor thaurissan, next turn blingtron get a doomhammer, play double bite + claw for +12, innervate hero power +1, smack face for 15 + 15 + savagery for 15 O_O
Mathieu Bruneault Correct, "Deal damage equal to your hero's Attack to a minion." This is part of why it's useless, though other contributing factors include the difficulty stacking attack and the prevalence of early removal options like Claw, Wrath, and the Druid Hero Power.
Op GIados Early game board control. Especially in a meta where one-drops with one or two health and low attack are usually prevalent. If nothing else, it forces an opponent to coin out a 3/2 two-drop to deal with it and your one drop forces the use of a coin and kills a minion.
Trump made a rogue control deck? With those picks he might of gotten a decent tempo deck. I have much more success drafting tempo for rogue than control. Just dagger poison cant keep a board presence. Also if your opponent draft aggro/temp you easily lose board control. Three poisons is actually slow for the current arena "meta". Lets see how his opponents are..edit* lol first player was AWFUL.
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19:16 Trump struggles to say 'well played' and then gets a message 'WellPlayed1 has gone offline.' Bizarre coincidence or little joke from Jens?
That's Jens touch for sure.
TheFireflyGrave I've spotted it too ! 3h late ^^
TheFireflyGrave Even better someone named "Savj" comes online slightly afterwards.
TheFireflyGrave Since it was 5 friends even after the offline msg, then we can assure it is a nice little joke from Jens.
Claes Petersson you must be special :< if you try checking before the aforementioned time, you will see 6 friends...
*misses 3 attempts to press well played in a row*
*WellPlayed1 has gone offline*
Look at 21:33, there is after he sheeps the smith, a Ring appears for a sec. strange.
YEEEEEEEEEEEEES YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT'S LIKE WITHOUT THESE FREQUENT TRUMP ARENA VIDS - THEY ARE THE FUEL I NEED TO CONTINUE PLAYING HEARTHSTONE
I agree.
Try going to his twitch Channel and navigate to 'past broadcasts'. You van browse his streams here and easily find an arena run.
Illuminati Confirmed. 21:33
Does anybody else see the eye the flickers in and out of the screen around 21:32 to 21:34??
Drafting a deck with that many weapon cards without picking the antique healbot was a pretty big mistake I think
Damn, 231 episodes of trump playing arena. It feels like yesterday that he hit triple digits
What is that blip at 21:33? Is it a UA-cam artifact or Illuminati?
28:05 how does he not defender????
Matthew Bell Haha RIGHT?? Nobody was commenting on it but it seems like a really stupid misplay to not play the argus for imense value
"Whhhhyyyyyy do you caaaall?" -Voidwalker to Hungry Dragon
not choosing loot hoarder over a third deadly poison is a mistake. You need 2 drops, because evis is not as good as frostbolt or darkbomb on turn 2. Also, you had very little draw in your deck, with only azure drake, which is a very slow draw mechanic. Without any healing, a third card that makes you take more damage is something you had no reason to be interested in. After two, deadly poison is SIGNIFICANTLY worse.
dude, Loot hoarder is not a real 2-drop cauz it doesnt realy trades good with other 2-drops... A real twodrop is like a 2/3 or a 3/2 but not a loot hoarder...
Erik Asmus Well, it does trade with 3/2s or wastes turn 2 for the opponent if they ping it...
Erik Asmus 3 classes kill loot horder with ability: they spend 2 mana and 0 card and you spend 2 mana and 0 card (because it's significant how many cards you have in hand, not in deck). Other classes waste a card or a half a card to deal with LH. And you gain card advantage. And the most of good 2-drops are 3/2, so it clear 2 for 1 for loot hoarder.
I agree, would have been an easy loot hoarder for me. Sometimes trump is digging too hard for that value
Erik Asmus It trades very well against 3/2s, as it kills the opponent's minion and draws a Card, so it is kind of a 1 for 0. In roge it is also OK against 2/3s as you could use the dagger to finish the other minionand you still get the card advantage - it just costs 2 extra mana. And even if your opponent pings it, it will cost him 2 mana as well and you get the Card back, you that would be aneven trade.
creepy eye at like, 21:33 o.O right when the polymorph goes off
Well played - cough - Well played - cough. Oh well, fuck it, I'll just concede. No wp for you, sir.
Rogue arena w0w...so much time have passed for some rogue arena..my favorite class on HS!
That first guy made sooo many misplays lol. Poor guy.
Prime example of how Hearthstone works in Arena. You make a single misplay, you might lose. The guy had a decent play with that turn just executed it wrong.
ChthonianAlliance You don't have to make a misplay to lose.
ChthonianAlliance Yeah, that's what made it so hard to watch :D
GunvorPlays Next time anyone tells me EU is tougher than the US I'm referring them to this video.
tkell31 There are bad players in every server... This doesn't prove anything.
"I wouldn't be surprised if a 1 mana 2/2 were printed some day"
Woo new arena! Trove Lump
28:20 IMO Defender of Argus would be so much better in this situation - allowing to trade 3/2 into the 7/3 and 6/6 killing 3/2, leaving you with 6/3 taunt which will return your Defender when killed. Value.
HIS EVISCERATION IS IMMINENT
28:15 I don't usually yell at people who can't hear me, but when I do, it's for not playing Defender of Argus when they should.
NICE, THANK YOU MAN, MORE VIDEOS ARENA PLEASE !!
Tanmit, Priest. Sorry for BMing you in arena the other day. I didn't know it was you. Mad respect
That third opponent made my brain hurt...
Hilarious how Trump says 'Well Played' at 19:15 and a few seconds later his friend WellPlayed goes offline.
Part 2 avaible tomorrow my ass. everybody knows, FRUMP can't play arenas... there's no part 2
Angry Jesus Why so angry, jesus?
Jelmer Herms Why is this question so popular I do not understand... cuz I hate you!!!
Angry Jesus fuck off you're dead
nefarioustoast he can respawn after 3 days.
Angry Jesus Dayum Jesus, why you gotta be that way?
There's a black hole at 21:33 o.O
7:34 nice lethal
Wait, wasn't this from his stream like a week ago.
is the card thing on the left a post edit effect or some really cool addon that I should have in game?
.
Its edited in by Jens, trumps editor
Damn, it would be really useful otherwise.
Thanks for letting me know!
Zyga I know right, it's amazing
About time indeed Trump, about time..! Missed the arenas :/
24:38, I was hoping for 2 BGHs.
The savagery though 4Head
Good job in the tournament trump!!!!
How did rayleigh mess that one up?
Trump, when are you gonna upload the advanced trump teachings from your stream?
How could you lose to the 3rd guy? -.-
YUSoDumb1 That guy got really really lucky
Calebv319 Just trump fucked it up.
YUSoDumb1 Because he's bad.
Because he threw a home run at the Mage and voluntarily skipped turn 5
YUSoDumb1 It's called bad RNG
Why pick Ambusher over Puddlestomper and Healbot? Surely a vanilla 3 2 or a healbot is better (for rogue)? I'd think the deathrattle of returning a minion isn't worth the 5-5 for 4 when you have those 2 other choices...
YEEY! ARENA!
Hope you will play more Arena next Season :(
Insane deck.
Hi im a german hearthstone player and want to ask if forsen has a youtube channel :)
That 7:45 missed lethal though
Really strong rouge deck. I am predicting 10 wins as well.
Ruhestein: Trump Karten - 231 - Ausweiden - Teil 1 (Schurke Arena)
Stoned Giraffe *Trumpf Karten :D
Stoned Giraffe Kaminstein*
ichundichundduunder die Übersetzung der "hearthstones" in WoW ist Ruhestein :3
Draedaja
Ah, das wusste ich nicht. Da hab ich mich wohl gerade als nicht WoW-ler geoutet :D
A 1 mana 2/2 would be able to answer a lot of 2-drops (like juggler) while also being resistant to Hero Abilities and providing board pressure.
Like a 2/1 Faerie dragon.
chibiraptor A plain 1 mana 2/2 without any effect would be OP.
What about 11 mana 1/1 that deals with masturbation problems?
I just unboxed my first legendary ever since playing for 3 months and it's Tinkmaster Overspark. Fuck my life
Haha
I got mine a couple weeks in but it was fucking hemit. FUCKING HEMIT NESINGWARY
Mine was Hemet ...
Cenarius:))) broke it down for my shaman deck though....
Curse my young arrogance
Really, really, really long name that is really pointless but you are still reading it mine was Malygos :3
I got a Grommash today,but i never play warrior. Should i disenchant him?(Sorry for my english,im from Brazil)
Diego Cardim as trump would say....it depends.
depends on ur goals for HS and ur need on dust now
Grommash is a great legendary, so only disenchant him if you definitely wont play warrior in the near future.
Also, your english was perfect.
wohl kaum Ok,thanks! =)
***** Thanks a lot!=)
Meanwhile I get arena....and I get a 0 eviscerates 0 mc techs. 1 deadly poison and a shit ton of sub par two drops and nothing else..
When p play paladin arena i usually get 1 hammer of wrath. :-(
Miika Ruokonen really? I get like 40....it sucks that hammer is terrible.
Freedfg I mean i get 1 Hammer of wrath and no truesilvers or concecrations :O
Miika Ruokonen hahahahahaha. drafting consecration, hahahahaha
Freedfg I just got Sylvanas windrunner and onxiya on arena. My RNG changed the moment when I realized sometimes going for face is okay. Not sure if they are encouraging me to go full face.
7:17 missed lethal
That game against ki54 is a definite example of why I don't play HS. No matter how much skill you have as a player better card wins the game plain and simple.
5:51 Savagery opie opie
Guys, i wanna ask a question. Why do people value Man Co Mercenary a good card? I mean, yeah its a 7/6, but for the upcoming turns, it messes up what you can play, and the strength in cards played would be significantly lower in value.
It's good because your opponent wants to kill it asap anyway. So either you get to deal seven damage or your opponent kills it and drawback is gone
Krysia Łatwa i guess, but in my experience, turns 6,7 and 8 are where all the biggest creatures come out and by then, it'd be too late to change the game unless you have a twisting nether.
Bryant Goh It's not a very good card anymore tbh. Back in the day when arena was mostly about value and efficient trades, a 5 mana 7/6 was quite powerful, but since GVG arena has become much more about tempo and venture co is obviously a quite terrible tempo card.
Daniel Draugsvoll well... i guess so. but to gain tempo, making good trades and the value of them play a part, no?
Bryant Goh I mean it's not a "terrible"-tier card at all, but it's definitely not as good as some people think.
Am I really the only one feeling incredibly sorry for that poor Druid?
Does anyone know why Trump plays on the EU server?
@21:33 Illuminati confirmed
anyone see the weird thing at 21:32
something weird at 21:30
I seriously need some artificial luck when I draft in arena, I get terrible cards. When I'm done with that, I need to learn how to draft too...
+Trump did u know that, while u play a brewmaster and target a friendly minion, you can click on the targeted minion while the animation of the brewmaster lasts. nice thing if you wanna safe important time of your life
:)
enjoy your stream go on, bye
*Attempts to emote well played twice but fails* I give up.
Arena->constructed
Guys, WTF is that image in 21:33 ~ 21:34? Reduce the video speed to 0.25 and see.
Alex Mitchell It's in most hearthstone videos. It's part of the hearthstone illuminati.
XanthelinHS that's kind of fucked up.
Alex Mitchell It's the black hole in to which all my productivity goes when Trump uploads an arena vid.
If I drafted a deck like this I would get run over. Rogue has to get some board early or the hero ability just helps the opponent win faster.
16:45 Trump doesn't understand lack of value
Where did all his gold go?
***** i believe he is playing on his free to play account but im not 100 percent sure
sean-patrick mulryan that would explain the "EU" complaints
skillstone 19:20
love you dude!
The dream, druid plays emperor thaurissan, next turn blingtron get a doomhammer, play double bite + claw for +12, innervate hero power +1, smack face for 15 + 15 + savagery for 15 O_O
On 10 mana of course and a class with armor over 30 :D
Shimura Shinpachi No, the dream is ET, next turn FoN + FoN + Innervate + Innervate + SR + SR
Doesn't savagery only work on minions, though?
Mathieu Bruneault Correct, "Deal damage equal to your hero's Attack to a minion." This is part of why it's useless, though other contributing factors include the difficulty stacking attack and the prevalence of early removal options like Claw, Wrath, and the Druid Hero Power.
Mathieu Bruneault oh yeah, well i don't have the card so i guess i missed that lol
Uhm, no. EU was telling you to not emote "Well Played" to that scrub mage :>
That one Mage was soooooo bad lol
if only he'd picked stoneskin instead of the brewmaster he wouldn't have lost a game.
Dont know why but I feel sad for the the first druid missplays :(
21:33 illuminati strikes again
What the fuck happened at 21:33?
Yay! More Trump!
21:33............................
oh man that mage was so bad, losing to that is just unbearable /: sorry jens x)
I love voluntarily skipping turns against someone that is 4 cards down in terms of hand size and ahead on the board OpieOP
More arena pls
I don't get why Zombie Chow is "good"
Op GIados Early game board control. Especially in a meta where one-drops with one or two health and low attack are usually prevalent. If nothing else, it forces an opponent to coin out a 3/2 two-drop to deal with it and your one drop forces the use of a coin and kills a minion.
Shawn Mentzer
Ty for the information
so we learned dark king rayleigh is able to beat marine admirals but cant play hearthstone :v
19:25 And thats why i fucking hate mages in arena...
Can someone tell me how can i make many wins at Arena? :c
0 damage savagery OP.
the pleasure is mine
Arena today is a very "fast"-without enough early game u srewed
Trump salt. So good
Whoa Trump got poor quickly
Where is his money?!??!
Trump made a rogue control deck? With those picks he might of gotten a decent tempo deck. I have much more success drafting tempo for rogue than control. Just dagger poison cant keep a board presence. Also if your opponent draft aggro/temp you easily lose board control. Three poisons is actually slow for the current arena "meta". Lets see how his opponents are..edit* lol first player was AWFUL.
I blame NA for letting me get legend every season whilst I can't get past rank 6 in EU
NA ppl stupid
What is NA? And how did u get legend? Smorc or Dr. Balanced?
TheAndroiD619 North American Server, its a lot easier than Europe and I did it with tempo mage and patron warrior
Luke Willey i took me longer from rank 6 to 2 on eu than climbing from 14 to 2 on NA
Heyo
U awsome
Trump's drafting has been sooooo greedy lately.
Only mages in arena???? Lol people are to noob to play what they like, but only what's best.
Ouch! that was some horrible drafting. Could've made a way better deck.
Game3 was played badly and quite full of missplays (for Trump's standards anyway).
Why does Trump always burn the rope to make the most obvious plays? Do streamers seriously think this shallow game requires serious thought?
Handsome Harry Don't give him the attention, just mark as spam and move on.
Shitkidhtf Done, sir
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