Build an indoor FM antenna for 75 ohm coax input

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  • @Stelios.Posantzis
    @Stelios.Posantzis 3 роки тому +12

    You'd be surprised to learn how many people need a quick recipe video like this. Good job.

  • @andelamb7523
    @andelamb7523 9 місяців тому +5

    This worked a treat! I didn't actually solder anything or use heat shrink stuff. Just twisted wires old school and used electric tape til I can get to the hardware store. Thanks for a clear, concise and extremely helpful video. You're a prince among men!

  • @everythingreviewsandnews1229
    @everythingreviewsandnews1229 2 роки тому +17

    For anyone asking about how long the coax should be, it doesn't matter. It is shielded, will not affect signal, so it can be any length. the actual place where the antenna starts is where the two wires are connected. Spread them opposite ways and there you go.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  2 роки тому +10

      Yes and no, the longer the coax the higher the attenuation, but the higher you can get the antenna portion the better.

    • @dannygeraerts3788
      @dannygeraerts3788 Рік тому +2

      Awesome! Just what i needed.thank you!

    • @Srk7028
      @Srk7028 Рік тому +2

      Why spreading opposit ways ?

    • @e3befree
      @e3befree Рік тому +2

      @@12voltvidsis attenuation a good thing?

    • @Say10198
      @Say10198 11 місяців тому

      Does it matter if you strip the casing off the two ends of it? Or leave the plastic on

  • @desharrison1643
    @desharrison1643 2 роки тому +6

    I was just about to purchase an fm antenna and came across your tutorial. I found what was needed in my odds and sods and followed your instructions. It works perfectly. Thank you. Des.

    • @jeffreynordi2693
      @jeffreynordi2693 2 роки тому

      what type wire did you use to attach to coax cable, solid or stranded core?

  • @williamsimoninc
    @williamsimoninc 3 роки тому +13

    Followed your instructions to the T and after nearly a year of having my shop receiver set up. (Tried a few old school botch job attempts at fabbing one and figured my tuner may have gone bad) I stumbled upon this video and now after snaking it through the steel sheeting and attaching it on the outside wall with magnets im getting stations i didnt know we had. I never incorporated any coax cable, just the end, had no idea about the 75ohms. I was surprised how the wires really needed to be extended to the full length to get the best results. Thanks again! This is what youtube is all about!

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  3 роки тому +1

      You're welcome

    • @Bryt25
      @Bryt25 3 роки тому +2

      Yep the antena has to match the physical 'width' of the wave so scrunching up = not too good.

  • @bizmakerbhang5953
    @bizmakerbhang5953 3 роки тому +6

    Perfect! You have reached a scientific calculations on frequency receptions. This 29.5 inch length is surely calculated for FM frequency.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  3 роки тому +1

      Yes for 100 MHz.

    • @bizmakerbhang5953
      @bizmakerbhang5953 3 роки тому +2

      @@12voltvids ​ Yes maybe... 300,000,000Hz/100,000,000= 3m. 1.5+1.5m will be perfect for 100MHz frequency. The 300million Mhz is light speed. Is it right? And, Lambda value was a Quarter. That is 29.5 inch x 2

    • @rimantaskavaliunas5344
      @rimantaskavaliunas5344 2 роки тому +1

      @@bizmakerbhang5953 300.. this is r wave speed m/s, 100... - frequency Hz, wavelength will be 1.5 m ~60inch

    • @Davidwinnen
      @Davidwinnen 3 місяці тому

      What gage wire should I use?

  • @davekyle7647
    @davekyle7647 2 роки тому +4

    IT WORKS!!! I've been trying to receive a local station which broadcasts with a 500 watt transmitter for the last two years.
    Tried every type of antenna I could find...no luck.
    I spent an hour making my antenna based on these dimensions and I can now receive this station and many others with a strong, stable signal!
    Thanks much for all of your videos!
    Regards,
    Dave

    • @frengqy1517
      @frengqy1517 11 місяців тому

      what type of wire that connected to coax cable? please answer...

  • @rheescarchronicles-wh6ev
    @rheescarchronicles-wh6ev 27 днів тому

    Thanks sir ,after so many years i just brought my sansui stereo system back to life . Greetings from South Africa

  • @QoraxAudio
    @QoraxAudio 3 роки тому +6

    So, the piece of cable is for matching the 75ohm impedance, while the two wires are just an open dipole?
    Or can I connect the dipole wires directly to a coax connector?

  • @fredsk1
    @fredsk1 Рік тому +5

    OK so here's my story for what it's worth. I made this antenna in desperation after the FM reception in my shed took a massive nosedive *all of a sudden* (I'll come back to that). I figured that my issue was related to the old antenna, so I was devastated to spend the 10 whole minutes of my life making a new one only to find out that it didn't improve the situation at all, no matter how I positioned it. I started to think about what has changed in my shed setup and I remembered a week or two earlier that a gecko had crawled into the PSU of my shed PC before I turned it on. He shorted some components and sadly cooked himself alive and destroyed my PSU so I replaced it (ANTEC) with a spare one (EVGA) I had lying around.
    It turns out that this EVGA PSU is my issue all along - as soon as I toggled the power switch on the PSU the radio sprung to life with gusto... My efforts weren't in vain though because I am happy to report that the reception with the 12voltvid antenna is much better :)

  • @darrelschindler679
    @darrelschindler679 3 роки тому +6

    I have a slightly different problem. Sony sells a 2 channel Receiver that has a proprietary input for a dipole antenna they provide. I have a great coaxial aerial that I prefer to use instead of their dipole. Is there any way using their proprietary input and cutting off the rest of the dipole and then attaching an adapter which I can connect to my coaxial aerial?

    • @Contribuable85
      @Contribuable85 3 роки тому

      same problem here, I have a stupid sony stereo with a single wire antenna and a coax exterior antenna and I'm trying to figure out how to connect them together.

  • @michaelevans6370
    @michaelevans6370 Рік тому +2

    You seem like a guy that knows his stuff. On the back of my Marantz ST 500 tuner. I have twin 300 OHM screw mounts and a single 75 OHM screw mount. I have been using a 300 OHM balun and some coax to connect my antenna. Which is a single wire. If I was to use the 75 OHM single connector would I merely twist some twin lead speaker wire together then create a dipole. Thanks for any help

  • @BradBo1140
    @BradBo1140 3 роки тому +2

    I just built that antenna and it worked amazing! I used to own a somewhat expensive plug on am/fm antenna device that didn’t work nesr as well as this thing.

  • @williamlongfellowjr.1
    @williamlongfellowjr.1 11 місяців тому +1

    In the 1948 we used copper wire that was cleaned, it was warped around nziles put into the window frame
    It als was used for tv

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  11 місяців тому +1

      That will work too.

  • @renemcarthur4983
    @renemcarthur4983 Рік тому +1

    So will a regualr tv coaxial cable fit into the back

  • @e3befree
    @e3befree Рік тому +1

    Thank you sir! I brought my JVC tuner back to life thanks to your video.

  • @jrperki1
    @jrperki1 Рік тому +1

    If you made the coax the same length as the first wire and omitted the second wire, wouldn't the shield act as a second wire or is it too close to the other conductor?

  • @rogerwalter2500
    @rogerwalter2500 Рік тому +2

    I soldered a crocodile clip at the end of the wire, so that it can be hung from any curtain thus maintaining its position for best receptions

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Рік тому +2

      That works but if curtin rod is metal it becomes part of the antenna which will lengthen it and define the resonance

    • @rogerwalter2500
      @rogerwalter2500 Рік тому +1

      @@12voltvids Only the fabric part of the curtain

  • @JohnnyTrulove
    @JohnnyTrulove 2 роки тому +1

    Hello. I'm connecting an old Kenwood system. The tuner, tape, and receiver are in great shape. For the fm antenna, it just has a loop antenna but not sure where to connect the 2 fork type connectors. the options are fm 75 ohm, gnd. loop amd am...

  • @damonmarkiewicz2250
    @damonmarkiewicz2250 3 роки тому +3

    I have an old Pioneer SX-550 Receiver. It takes 300 and 75 ohm antenna, however it does not have a female coax. It only has the twin lead terminals. I know that sounds weird, It would be easy to explain if I could send you pictures and the manual. My question is, if I buy a 75 to 300 converter, do I plug into the 75 terminals or the 300 terminals?

    • @i.enjoy_music
      @i.enjoy_music 2 роки тому +1

      I have a kenwood kt6005 and there is also no female coax and I am also curious how to do this. I bought some Best Buy antenna thing that had two go to the 300 and two other for AM and ground but I don’t know if I did this correctly, I don’t know much at all about my Kenwood

  • @johnlagreca6288
    @johnlagreca6288 4 місяці тому

    Cool, is that a 1/2 wave on 98 MHz or so?
    What frequencies do the digital TV stations center on?
    Do we need a dual band antenna for that? Trap dipole?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  4 місяці тому +1

      TV is all over the map. 52-87 mhz vhf low. 176 - 210 vhf high, and 470-600 uhf or three abouts. It depends of where the broadcasters transmit. In my area its all in the 470 to 600 range.

  • @MarkOlive-k5s
    @MarkOlive-k5s 20 днів тому

    Thanks, not sure where I can buy toobing from in the UK though :)

  • @mrphil1092
    @mrphil1092 Рік тому +1

    Just made this today, for a tuner amp in a basement flat, and it works a treat. many thanks great info..

  • @RhythmDeli
    @RhythmDeli 10 місяців тому

    and as usual, working on FM stuff, the first broadcast that you get is that ridiculously soothing smooth jazz

  • @williamlongfellowjr.1
    @williamlongfellowjr.1 Рік тому +1

    In the old days we took wire about 20ft or so wrapped it around a window screw Ed it to the back of the radio and let it play. 1950s

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Рік тому +1

      Am radio that worked fine. I had a 100 foot wire that went from 1 chimney to the other across the roof then down into my room using stand off insulators and i picked up the world on am and shortwave.

  • @jangnodde2766
    @jangnodde2766 Рік тому

    If you hang the antenna vertical its recieves the best signal. This is because fm signal are send trought vertical dipole. So the radiowaves will recieve better in recieving antenna being in vertical position. Greets

  • @megashtyr1
    @megashtyr1 3 роки тому +5

    This is exactly what I needed!
    FM reception is somewhat poor where I live, and the receiver would often fallback to mono sound. The piece of wire "antenna" that came with the AV receiver does not make much difference.

  • @MarcCardwell
    @MarcCardwell 6 місяців тому

    Do you HAVE to soder? I’d think electrical tape would be fine to hold the two wires together. There’s no current is there?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  6 місяців тому

      You don't have to but it makes a better mechanical connection

    • @MarcCardwell
      @MarcCardwell 6 місяців тому

      @@12voltvids thanks for the clarification!

  • @peteygr
    @peteygr 3 роки тому +1

    Works, follow the directions. I now have good radio reception in the garage!!!

  • @donaldmackillop6736
    @donaldmackillop6736 Рік тому +2

    Superb tutorial, quick, concise, clever and it works ! Many thanks.

  • @Sean-om6rc
    @Sean-om6rc 3 роки тому +2

    Can this work for a radio with a broken telescopic antenna?

  • @robertryan2222
    @robertryan2222 2 роки тому +2

    Fantastic video Sir!!!! I can build a shopping center but I have no idea what gigahertz and such things are. I've been fighting with a AM/FM radio in my steel shop building and I think I'm going to apply what you just did here to it. I'm thinking mine's going to have to go through the wall and outside because of the steel building, is that correct? Also I think I'm going to have to use a splitter because I don't have coaxial connections on my radio, I'm planning on taking the radio apart and catching the wires going to that antenna and putting them onto my DIY antenna. Once again thank you!

  • @goofusmaximusII
    @goofusmaximusII 3 роки тому +2

    When or how did 1 29 and a half inch wire turn into 2 wires? Are the now 2 wires both 29 and a half inches or are they 14 and 3/4th inches?

    • @Bryt25
      @Bryt25 3 роки тому

      2 piece 29.5 inches to make a 59 inch antenna. you can use 3/8" diam rods if you want something more stable. Screw the centers to a flat piece of ply or similar. Especially excellent if attic mounted.

  • @johnybravo1774
    @johnybravo1774 8 місяців тому

    What kind of antennas used tuner Technics ST-7300K and Z1L (for indoor ! ) thx !

  • @chriskaprys
    @chriskaprys 3 місяці тому

    Great vid, thanks for the tips and quick & easy construction. Couple questions as a matter of interest that I hope someone in the comments might be able to address (which may be answerable with some trial & error anyway...)
    1) The wires attached to the coax, would they do better as solid or stranded, and does the gauge affect performance?
    2) If I know the direction where the transmission is coming from, is there a configuration that could help this setup be advantageously directional? (e.g. T-shape perpendicular to line-of-sight with the station)
    3) When you hook up an antenna to that 75ohm jack, does that override the radio's internal antenna? (In other words, does the location of the radio unit itself become irrelevant once you have an external antenna in the mix?)
    4) If I mostly listen to just two stations, is there an advantage to customising the length of the antenna to the average of their frequencies, rather than 100MHz? (by my calculations, for stations 102.3MHz + 88.5MHz; average=95.4MHz; quarter-length=30.9 in.)
    5) I've always wondered since I was a kid, why, when the reception is decent but not great, are the 's' and 'sh' and drum cymbal sounds affected most (come through garbled or white noise-y), while the rest of the audio spectrum comes through pretty clear?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  3 місяці тому +1

      You can customize the length. It won't make much difference. Stranded vs solid makes no difference. Yes its semi directional the weakest is the direction the tips are facing. For vertically polarized stations obviously you hang it vertical

  • @dillwiggle2
    @dillwiggle2 Рік тому

    I have a receiver with a 75ohm fm connector that’s just like a spring fit speaker wire connector and a fm ground with spring fit connector. It looks like the original antenna is just a plain wire I think it is it some special wire that’s 75 ohm ? I heard speaker wire is 300 ohm ? What’s the best way and best wire to use ?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Рік тому

      Its just a plain piece of wire and no it's not 75 it 300 ohms. Close to 0 to be exact.

  • @ernestobocalingjr.3203
    @ernestobocalingjr.3203 Рік тому

    My fm receiver has only 1 wire for antenna ,can I connect 1 wire to the ground ?thanks.

  • @tenmillionvolts
    @tenmillionvolts 3 роки тому +2

    F connectors for FM radio. Interesting. In NZ, it's co-ax plugs like our tvs. The only time we see f connectors is set top boxes like satellite receivers from the LNB

    • @jonnymorgan8385
      @jonnymorgan8385 3 роки тому

      Same hear in the UK, IEC coax connectors there called i dont think there commen in north america its all F connectors.

    • @DGTelevsionNetwork
      @DGTelevsionNetwork 3 роки тому

      North America uses mostly f connectors for residential and bnc for commercial, like cctv and broadcasting. Also, just like our "wonderful" electrical system, you can get a very good zing from the connector if you're not careful and the signal is amplified.

  • @ricfair9919
    @ricfair9919 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks. Would never thought to make this simple connector.

  • @tipsclubs01
    @tipsclubs01 3 роки тому +1

    I have a small Radio I listen to outside my mobile home, FM station 102.1 which is approx. 100 miles away, and my radio only has a extendable antenna with NO cable connection. Is there any way I can use a clip on the antenna you made to clip on a regular pull out antenna to enhance my reception?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  3 роки тому +1

      Yes just clip it to the whip.

    • @tipsclubs01
      @tipsclubs01 3 роки тому

      @@12voltvids OK, I'll give it a try. Thanks.

    • @tipsclubs01
      @tipsclubs01 3 роки тому +2

      Took an 8 X 8 X 1/2 thk piece of plywood, drew diagonal marks from corner to corner, had a 60 inch piece of 3/8 " plastic tubing, drilled a big enough hole in one side so both wires would come out the center hole and run down the tubing both ways horizontal. Then soldered the 1 wire to the center wire of cable and used shrink tube to mate the other wire to the wire mesh to a coax cable and ran it down the center of the other diagonal, soldered a clip on the center cable wire and clipped it on the extendable radio antenna. Put a mounting clip on the top of the wood so as to hang it as high as I can. Seem to worked fine on the radio, but won't know for sure till I try it out in the morning, but it worked fine in the evening. I need to get a longer piece of cable to mount the "T" unit higher. Thanks a lot for the instructions. I love UA-cam and the people who show us how things are done.

    • @tipsclubs01
      @tipsclubs01 3 роки тому

      @@12voltvids Here's the Temporary Mount, till I get more cable to mount it higher, think it should work great. pbase.com/pakrat/fm_radio_antenna

  • @SDsailor7
    @SDsailor7 3 роки тому +4

    Does the coax cable need to be a certain size? Or can it be longer?

    • @coastmansingha9980
      @coastmansingha9980 3 роки тому

      Make sure it is 75 ohm you need and not 50 ohm. Most receivers require 50 ohm. Any RG6 cable shielded will do.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  3 роки тому +1

      You could put the radials outside for better reception.

  • @rud8051
    @rud8051 2 роки тому

    do you have to hook up anything to the fm ground at the back of an old school receiver?

  • @shaggyda2758
    @shaggyda2758 2 роки тому

    Hi guy, I watched your video on FM antenna build, my problem is; out in my garage I never had good FM reception to start with but after my neighbour & I switched-out the floresent lights for LEDs now its very a static single!, would this help if I had the antenna above the leds?

  • @tyh7388
    @tyh7388 3 роки тому +3

    Just made one for an operator at his station. Never seen him so happy! Thanks a million! :D

  • @jonnyrodz943
    @jonnyrodz943 2 роки тому

    I have this system, and I use a digital indoor black rectangle 25 mile range antenna to an indoor amplifier, but I notice if I unplug the amp, there's less white noise. Weird right?

    • @GrumpzTheCat
      @GrumpzTheCat 2 роки тому +1

      You are amplifying the background noise too. If its on a station while doing that it might be getting overloaded causing noise. Sometimes amplifiers can cause signal issues, just something you have to test sometimes

  • @Coberko
    @Coberko Рік тому

    Thank you from the Netherlands. Very nice DIY!

  • @RudySnareDrum
    @RudySnareDrum Рік тому

    Trying to find the Cable Prep stripper u use in this video. Where doni find one? Thanx....

  • @codenamescarletfox
    @codenamescarletfox Рік тому

    Couldn't you connect just a single wire to the inside pin of the coax connector?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Рік тому +1

      Sure and some wire antennas do just that. Making a dipole makes us a little more directional.

  • @Nairod2
    @Nairod2 3 роки тому +4

    so the 29.5 inches on opposite directions are to pick amplitude frequency of FM? do other lengths pick up other frequencies?

    • @coastmansingha9980
      @coastmansingha9980 3 роки тому +4

      It would be best to make the length according to the frequencies you want to listen to. Most FM broadcasts range from 88 to 108 Mhz. To calculate the length make for the midway point ie about 98Mhz. Find the quarter wavelength of 98Mhz which is 2ft 4.7 inches. Make the lengths half that and attach as shown.

    • @1959Berre
      @1959Berre 3 роки тому +4

      @@coastmansingha9980 In metric units: divide the speed of light = 300.000.000 m/S by frequency (100.000.000 Hz). This equals 3 meter. To obtain a 1/4 lambda antenna divide 3 meter by 4, which is 75 cm (about 29.530 inch) This is an approximation. The frequence may be a little different and the speed of light in air is not exactly equal to its speed in a vacuum; nor is the speed of the signal transmission in the copper wire. For the extreme values of the FM band, you can add or substract 5 cm (about 2 inch). Which can be done easily with a telescopic antenne.

    • @coastmansingha9980
      @coastmansingha9980 3 роки тому +3

      @@1959Berre Wow. Remember I am not the original poster on this subject I was only trying to help. So by all means take the piss. Its not an exact science you can pick up radio signals on a any piece of wire.

    • @coastmansingha9980
      @coastmansingha9980 3 роки тому +3

      @@1959Berre Do of course take into consideration the phase of transmission, either horizontal or vertical. Most FM broadcasts are horizontal but what the hell. Suck it and see

    • @coastmansingha9980
      @coastmansingha9980 3 роки тому +2

      @@1959Berre Having looked at your UA-cam channel I see you are a professional Tosser with 14 subscribers. You must be very proud and maybe living in a care home. My sympathies & best wishes with the treatment. 👏

  • @yonimmichaeli
    @yonimmichaeli 3 роки тому +2

    What are the diffrents between 75 ohms and 300 ohms anntenas?

    • @ElectoneGuy
      @ElectoneGuy 3 роки тому +1

      About 225 ohms...

    • @yonimmichaeli
      @yonimmichaeli 3 роки тому +1

      @@ElectoneGuy That's an answer for someone that knows electronics, I don't

    • @purpleghost4083
      @purpleghost4083 3 роки тому +1

      I would think probably not much difference, if any, for the fairly short lengths here. It matters more for longer lengths like you would use for an attic mounted or outside antenna. The following is from the manuals of 2 late '80s/early '90s tuners I have:
      JVC - Generally the coaxial cable suffers from more loss than the flat parallel feeder when they are the same length. The flat parallel feeder, however, is more liable to pick up noise.
      YAMAHA - Flat ribbon-shaped twin-lead cable performs well electrically, and is cheaper and somewhat easier to handle when routing it through windows and around rooms. Coaxial cable is more expensive, does a much better job of minimizing interference, is less prone to the effects of weather and close-by metal objects, and is nearly as good a signal conductor as feeder cable, particularly for foam-type coaxial cables. Coaxial cable is somewhat more difficult to install at the point where the cable enters the building. If coaxial cable is selected, make sure the antenna is designed to be used with that type of cable.

  • @mrphil1092
    @mrphil1092 Рік тому

    Hi How important is it that the two antenna wires are straight out, and not drooping or bent slightly etc.?

    • @apsdev
      @apsdev Рік тому

      Actually radio is polarized vertically, so the antenna wires need to be vertical .. not straight out. Advantage of polarizing vertical is that it receives signals from all directions. And thats why radio antenna on cars and portable radios have 1 telescopic element sticking straight up. But TV is polarized horizontally .. so it has 2 legs that stick out in both directions, and thats why portable TVs have 2 telescopic elements that need to be horizontally. THe advantage is that is that it is only sensitive in the direction it is pointing so doesnt pick up noise signals, disadvantage is that you have to point it at the transmitter .. so thats why the TV antennas on roofs are all pointing in the same direction.

  • @Jonas_Keunecke
    @Jonas_Keunecke 3 роки тому +5

    Thanks, I've been needing one of these for my mums old stereo, will do that!

    • @seanwatts8342
      @seanwatts8342 3 роки тому +1

      Did it work?

    • @Jonas_Keunecke
      @Jonas_Keunecke 3 роки тому +1

      @@seanwatts8342 Damnit, I still didn't make one, she's not been able to use the stereo because someone else is living in the house, I will try to report back

    • @seanwatts8342
      @seanwatts8342 3 роки тому +2

      @@Jonas_Keunecke The connection on the back of the stereo will determine what kind of antenna to use... 75 ohm or 300 ohm (normally.) It's not too complicated since you are _not_ making a transmitter antenna.

    • @Jonas_Keunecke
      @Jonas_Keunecke 3 роки тому +1

      @@seanwatts8342 Thanks Sean, I will check for the back of the tuner, but it's got a connection for the cable radio I'm pretty sure as he talked about in the video (just re-watched it). I am in europe though, so not sure if that still applies, thanks to you two for the advice

  • @markwarren7116
    @markwarren7116 2 роки тому

    Did you say what the length was for the antenna according to frequency?...Or did I miss that?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  2 роки тому

      I cut it to 100mhz and the length was mentioned.

  • @RadioKannadiga
    @RadioKannadiga Місяць тому

    What if receiver have 3.5 mm jack for antenna? Thanks

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Місяць тому +1

      Make it out of an old headphone cable.

    • @RadioKannadiga
      @RadioKannadiga Місяць тому

      @12voltvids that's OK sir but, which wire should be sold to which pin. Can't we make it with coaxial?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Місяць тому +1

      Doesn't matter. You can just sperate the shield from center conductor and string them out. Or get a 3.5mm to coax adapter and screw the coach on.

    • @RadioKannadiga
      @RadioKannadiga Місяць тому

      @@12voltvids OK sir thanks for ur reply. Thanks again

  • @coondogtheman
    @coondogtheman 3 роки тому +1

    I'm going to try this with my SDR receiver dongle. It comes with a stock "rabbit ears" style antenna but I bought some adapters to adapt a regular F connector to the smaller coax used on the SDR so I can use my old antennas for my TV. Hope this works better.
    Also why 29 inches? Does length not matter when receiving signals only transmitting?

    • @tony_w839
      @tony_w839 3 роки тому

      Length important for best reception, total length = half the wavelength.

  • @TheStevester2
    @TheStevester2 2 роки тому

    I made this immediately after watching the video. I was so excited when it worked a treat. thanks 12voltvids! Camping will be more enjoyable:)

  • @ATGG
    @ATGG 3 роки тому +2

    Hello. Question! Is this going to work for a radio scanner? My scanner's frequencies are *25-88mhz*, *108-174 mhz*, *225 - 512 mhz* and *806 - 960 mhz*. Will this DIY antenna cover any, if not, all of these?
    Thank you.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  3 роки тому +2

      For receiving any piece of wire will work. For a scanner however the antenna should be hung vertically. It is cut for the 88 - 108mhz band however. A discone is a better broadband design for a scanner.

    • @ATGG
      @ATGG 3 роки тому

      @@12voltvids Got it. Would a DIY antenna like this one secomms.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/1385lrg.jpg from a TV Antenna wire or copper or aluminum work for me?
      Do you have any videos like this one for a discone antenna? Thanks.

  • @nevkenis
    @nevkenis 3 роки тому +1

    Can the Coax cable be any length, like perhaps 6 inches?

    • @nevkenis
      @nevkenis 3 роки тому

      @@wefukthenwo yeah, I didn't bother. I found an actual antennae the next day at thrift store for rather cheap so thats a plus.

  • @jimmy6501
    @jimmy6501 3 роки тому

    Is your setup different/better than the storebought FM T antennas that you attach to the 2 screws (300 ohm) on back of receiver?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  3 роки тому

      No basically the same thing.

  • @judygracemelendres9909
    @judygracemelendres9909 3 роки тому

    Is there any possibility, that my Stereo will be broken?

  • @jons7250
    @jons7250 3 роки тому

    For a portable radio with a telescoping antenna, how do I get better reception? Can I make better antenna?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  3 роки тому

      You can clip a longer wire onto the telescopic antenna, take it near a window for better reception.

  • @mmsiuling9582
    @mmsiuling9582 3 роки тому

    Hi Do u know Radio FM need 300ohm changed to 75ohm !!! it's not working !!

  • @anupkongari
    @anupkongari 2 роки тому +1

    You are really great. Thanks man I needed a loop antenna for my tuner. Thanks once again.

  • @jaganb5886
    @jaganb5886 2 роки тому

    This is called putting in practice what you learn in school :-) Thank you

  • @zx8401ztv
    @zx8401ztv 3 роки тому +2

    Hmm the 468/F 1/2 wave dipole, for aluminium wire.

    • @davidgriffin79
      @davidgriffin79 3 роки тому

      That's the full dipole length at ~100MHz. This antenna is 1/4 wavelength: f = 100e6Hz, c= 299792458m/s, λ = c/f = 2.998m; l = λ/4 =0.7495m = 29.5in.

  • @sargetester99
    @sargetester99 3 роки тому +2

    How long does the pieces of wire need to be?

    • @sargetester99
      @sargetester99 3 роки тому +2

      29.5 inches? Each? Or together?

    • @plan7a
      @plan7a 3 роки тому

      @@sargetester99 Each I would guess.

    • @coastmansingha9980
      @coastmansingha9980 3 роки тому +1

      @@sargetester99 I would go for each cable being half of 29.5 inches ie 14.47 inches. Its the overall length that matters Basically you are tuning it to the FM Broadcast frequencies which usually lie between 88 to 108Mhz. Hope that helps

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  3 роки тому

      @@sargetester99 each side 29.5 for FM broadcast.

  • @arupm7949
    @arupm7949 3 роки тому

    What if the radio doesn't have coaxial connection ? How to get better reception then ?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  3 роки тому +1

      Use a piece of regular speaker wire. Zip it apart to the same length for the antenna side and the other side connect to the 2 screw terminals marked FM 300 ohm.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  3 роки тому

      @@sblaze4 the type of wire doesn't matter. 300 ohm is the 2 terminal connection and 75 is coax. With 75 ohm you have a single antenna lead and ground. With 300 ohm connection both wires are active. It is a balanced connection.

  • @drummerdonniedotcom
    @drummerdonniedotcom Рік тому +1

    Looks like you're using 18AWG, but I guess it really doesn't matter? I've gone through about a dozen comments and nobody else seems to be asking this question. The reason this seems pertinent to me is because, as you're well aware, different gauge wire has different resistance. So 29.5" of 18AWG is going to have different resistance that say 20AWG or 22AWG. I kind of assume if it mattered you would've specified in the video, but being OCD, I thought I'd ask.
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    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Рік тому

      No, it doesn't matter. This is a receiving antenna not a transmitting antenna.

    • @christiansales100
      @christiansales100 Рік тому

      He is using R 6 coax cable.
      Not rg 59.
      Rg 6 dual shield

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Рік тому +1

      @@christiansales100 it really doesn't matter. RG6 only important for long runs in the GHz range like satellite dish to receiver and catv use.

    • @MorAcht
      @MorAcht 9 місяців тому

      Okay, that answers my questions.

  • @stevemalone2010
    @stevemalone2010 2 роки тому

    Very helpful, my RV antenna is not working and eager to try this.

  • @adanvaldcontreras4283
    @adanvaldcontreras4283 3 роки тому +1

    Would that work for a TV?.. or just receivers.

    • @eDoc2020
      @eDoc2020 3 роки тому

      It would also work for North American VHF TV stations. Unfortunately with the digital phaseout those are pretty much gone. Most digital ATSC broadcasts are actually in the UHF band.

    • @seanwatts8342
      @seanwatts8342 3 роки тому

      Yes, *BUT* you'll need to look up the new frequencies for what digital channels you want to watch. You do NOT need to buy a specifically made 'digital antenna.' The good thing is a home made digital TV antenna is MUCH smaller and easier to move around.

  • @jeffreynordi2693
    @jeffreynordi2693 2 роки тому

    Are the wire leads solid core or stranded, thanks.

    • @jeffreynordi2693
      @jeffreynordi2693 2 роки тому

      someone please answer this question, thank you

  • @anthonydauphin1878
    @anthonydauphin1878 2 роки тому

    Why is 29.5 inches of wire important?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  2 роки тому +1

      It is the half wave length for 100mhz which is right in the middle of the band which makes the antenna resonant at that frequency.

  • @arupm7949
    @arupm7949 3 роки тому

    How far those stations are ? Say within 100km or beyond ?

  • @Evilslayer73
    @Evilslayer73 3 роки тому

    Hi do the lenght of the coaxial cable have an incidence on this build?? i mean i want a longer coax to hang on the curtain pole of my bed room window ca someone guide me up :)

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  3 роки тому +1

      The length of the coax won't affect it much.

    • @Evilslayer73
      @Evilslayer73 3 роки тому

      @@12voltvids Thanks !!is this antenna is good for shortwave?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  3 роки тому +1

      @@Evilslayer73 A dipole works great for shortwave. The length needs to be longer however. For shortwave just a long wire is more than enough. For the 40m band the length would be about 68 feet.

    • @Evilslayer73
      @Evilslayer73 3 роки тому

      @@12voltvids Thank you!!!

  • @davidsavidge7064
    @davidsavidge7064 2 роки тому

    Best watch on UA-cam!!! And extremely helpful vid of course. :)

  • @wooferhound7571
    @wooferhound7571 3 роки тому +2

    Just take a 60 inch length of coax and strip 30 inches of shield off of it. Presto instant FM antenna.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  3 роки тому

      Pretty much anything will work

    • @countzero1136
      @countzero1136 3 роки тому +1

      Back in the 80s we used to use this technique to make an "emergency dipole" for CB radio. That was for 27MHz so we basically stripped back 9 feet of the braid of RG58 (50 Ohm) coax and sort of rolled it back over the outer insulation, then attach a standard PL259 connector to the transceiver end and a few feet of string with a small weight to the other, then if you were stuck out in the country you could just throw the weighted end over the branch of a tree and you were in business.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  3 роки тому +1

      @@countzero1136
      50 ohm coax has copper braid. Not rg6 which is what I had on hand.

    • @MorAcht
      @MorAcht 9 місяців тому

      So is that 30" with aluminum shielding on rg58 or rg6? And should it be wrapped to make a horizontal wire? Or is it okay to pull the shielding back over the outer plastic covering for a FM antenna?

  • @drtwo
    @drtwo 3 роки тому

    I like your video and all that but here's what I'm dealing with the connector that you would use to hook up speakers with a little push tab that when you put in your wire and release it and it squeezes The Wire not the connector that you're using but I still have a 75 ohm requirement on it

  • @adorablechildsona786
    @adorablechildsona786 2 роки тому

    what is used as a antena receiver

  • @theoview
    @theoview 2 роки тому

    Stereo recieving?

  • @brianhazlehurst2152
    @brianhazlehurst2152 2 роки тому

    I'm very grateful for your video. I'm just wondering about details regarding the 2 wires you attach to the coaxial. (1) Is the gauge/thickness important, (2) and do we need to strip off their insulation ?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  2 роки тому

      The gauge is not important no it's just a receiving antenna. Obviously you have to strip the insulation off where you make the connection between the antenna wires and the coax but no you don't have to strip it off the rest of it.

    • @brianhazlehurst2152
      @brianhazlehurst2152 2 роки тому

      Many thanks. I've found that attaching just one 31-inch wire to the coaxial and hanging it vertically down the side of the window the reception is perfect on the only FM station around here at 107.5, right at the end of the scale. Funny - I have iron security bars on the windows (but not a jail !!!) and when I hung the antenna outside the bars, I got a lot of hiss. So I brought it back in.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  2 роки тому +2

      @@brianhazlehurst2152 metal will reflect the signal and cause multipath interference. This is why people that live in Stockwell houses and have high efficiency windows have so much problem with their Wi-Fi. They're quick to call their internet provider and scream and bitch that their internet sucks and in reality it's the way the house was built. I love telling people sorry there's nothing I can do you'll have to move if you want better internet speeds. been to people's homes where they've got access points every couple feet and they still can't get half decent internet over Wi-Fi. I explained to them that the wire mesh behind the stucco on the wall and large metal appliances and the air ducts in the wall and the thin metallic film on their high efficiency window makes her house like a giant Faraday cage or in this case a giant microwave oven. Signals are bouncing around inside and arriving at the antenna at a slightly different time causing errors which need to be retransmitted which slows their internet down. they usually threaten to change internet providers and I say go ahead knock yourself out still be dealing with the same problem. Or go buy yourself your own router and find that it's exactly the same. For those people in those type of homes they have one solution and that's plugged their computer in to an internet cable if they want any type of speed.

  • @zackvaughn5853
    @zackvaughn5853 5 місяців тому

    I'm getting a buzz any idea why?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  5 місяців тому

      If you had said it was humming I would have known exactly what the problem was, it doesn't know the words but buzzing, hmmm.. external interference from. Something. Now you need to start turning off breakers one at a time to find the culprit. Good luck.

  • @victorcoss2600
    @victorcoss2600 3 роки тому +9

    Interesting, I never knew the cable company carried FM radio and you can hook up cable directly to an FM radio.

    • @FoulOwl2112
      @FoulOwl2112 3 роки тому +3

      You can't. It was a fairly short lived endeavor. It began some time in the 80's if I'm not mistaken . However, it has since been phased out. With the unforseen explosion of internet based streaming services cable FM broadcast radio haa gone the way of the 8-track tape. It was still clinging on in a very few markets in the early 2000's. But I'm fairly certain it's been 100% discontinued.

    • @eDoc2020
      @eDoc2020 3 роки тому

      I thought channels 14-36 were in the same frequency range as FM radio. But I just looked it up, and it's actually just the high 90 channel numbers. I guess that partly explains why I don't think I've ever seen those high-numbered channels used in practice on analog cable.

    • @Devo_gx
      @Devo_gx 3 роки тому +2

      Yup! Think of it like how digital cable now carries a bunch of the stations. Back in the day we could split the cable so one end went to the TV (or, I'm going to date myself) a converter box, and the other to the home stereo
      Let's just say it made the band incredibly crowded, but it was a nice way to listen to AM or out of market stations before streaming or digital cable was a thing

  • @hifi.david.
    @hifi.david. 3 роки тому +1

    Is there a way to make a digital tv antenna?

    • @bones007able
      @bones007able 3 роки тому +1

      yes... they are nothing special.... just buy or find any old rabbit ears or set top antenna ... they will work if you have a close signal...if you need multiple channels put one on the roof....

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  3 роки тому +1

      Yup, also very easy. You could make one just like this, but TV signals are UHF so the radials are shorter, but yes for receiving you don't need much if the signal is good. For weaker signals a yagi design (directional) is perferred.

    • @joshm264
      @joshm264 3 роки тому +3

      There's no such thing as a digital antenna, but a TV antenna isn't hard to make, just look it up

    • @andynoon2584
      @andynoon2584 3 роки тому +1

      Very informative, thanks.

    • @coastmansingha9980
      @coastmansingha9980 3 роки тому +2

      Yes as stated. Make the two pieces out of solid coper ie just strip from a piece of old coax cable. Attach the same as shown but make each wire about 2.25 inches long. The exact length can be calculated if you know the frequencies of the broadcasts you wish to receive. There is plenty of info on the internet about this. You will probably need to solder rather than rely on heat shrink to make the attachment.

  • @MyLexG
    @MyLexG 3 роки тому

    You forgot to mention how long the coax cable is.
    Thanks

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  3 роки тому +1

      The coax length is not important. It is the radiator length that matters.

  • @truecourse47
    @truecourse47 3 роки тому

    Does the length of the coax matter?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  3 роки тому

      The longer the more loss, but then if you can get the antenna higher that will more than make up for it.

    • @truecourse47
      @truecourse47 3 роки тому

      @@12voltvids Thank you, makes sense.

  • @athmanff2662
    @athmanff2662 Місяць тому

    Simple but support for me, Thanks bro

  • @Devo_gx
    @Devo_gx 3 роки тому

    I have a little Terk FM antenna I'm not all that happy with so may give this a shot.

    • @TheNoncritical1
      @TheNoncritical1 2 роки тому

      Those Terks seem like a pieces of junk. I was willing to spend much more for something that would work really well. It turns out that the type of antenna shown in the video works as well as I can hope for. I use mine and it works very well. The only possible improvement would likely be a roof antenna.

  • @joshm264
    @joshm264 3 роки тому +1

    Cable systems used to have FM on it? Too bad it doesn't exist anymore, because now in order to get music over cable, you have to rent another cable box and tune to one of the music channels

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  3 роки тому +2

      They did indeed. They still do, but they are digital channels tuned by the cable box. In Canada initially we got all the local and distant FM stations. The distant stations were on original frequency. The local ones translated to a vacant spit to reduce interference. In the 90s the CRTC ordered that the cable systems also had to carry all of the local AM stations on the FM dial this displaced some of the out-of-market FM stations as the band was full. We got the local AM stations on the FM cable band in full stereo which sounded great. Around 2009-2010 when all the analog TV stations went dark the cable companies started upgrading their cable system to full digital and all the analog TV signals went away by 2015 at the same time all of the analog FM cable signals were also removed and that spectrum which would have been where channel 95 to 100 would have been on the cable band was reallocated to digital TV signals. Today if I were to hook an analog TV to our local cable TV carrier there would be one channel visible Channel 2 and all Channel 2 has on it is a display of a spectrum analyzer presumably so field technicians when tracing down interference can look at the spectrum leaving the head end on an analog TV and compare it to the spectrum on their spectrum analyzer. The competition that I work for is all fiber distribution digital TV and internet and phone all on glass.

    • @Devo_gx
      @Devo_gx 3 роки тому

      @@12voltvids Lots of fond memories as my father was a cable tech in Halifax & Calgary back on the day. Heck, back then the local cable company was called Calgary Cable TV/FM

  • @heraldmangava5169
    @heraldmangava5169 2 місяці тому

    Thank you so much. I will try it.

  • @SkipRogersJr
    @SkipRogersJr 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you very much, its exactly what I needed.

  • @mbw4359
    @mbw4359 2 роки тому

    Why 29"?

  • @zeez9053
    @zeez9053 3 роки тому +1

    You could have showed us the socket that connects in radio !

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  3 роки тому +1

      It's just the standard screw on f connector used on every TV in north america

    • @christiansales100
      @christiansales100 Рік тому

      Screw on connector cause ingress and regress.
      I used a compression RG 6 fitting and received more channels.
      I also added a small amplifier with a tilt screws for low band and high band control.
      The tilt really help the low band channels.
      I was a head end tech for a telecommunication company 30 years.
      The amplifier is hooked up backwards.
      The input to amp is from the antanna.
      The out put of the little amp is going into the radio.
      Great antanna.

  • @jeffadams5510
    @jeffadams5510 3 роки тому +3

    Cool! Can you now show us how to do a decent am antenna for local and dx?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  3 роки тому +1

      Long wire antenna at least 100 feet long. Stand off the antenna from walls ext and up and over the roof. The ground side to the building ground or a ground rod.

    • @jeffadams5510
      @jeffadams5510 3 роки тому

      @@12voltvids Cool thank you! What do you think about a large wire wound antenna? I seem to remember diamond shaped ones from back in the day. Something on the order of what came with fairly late model receivers only larger. Maybe much larger. Can't always run a long wire which is why I'm asking. How well might a large wire wound antenna perform? Is there a particular size that's best? Diamond vs square matter? etc etc etc......

  • @kennyrmurray
    @kennyrmurray 3 роки тому

    But that’s not 75 ohms. What about a resistor?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  3 роки тому +1

      Of course it is. That is the impedence of the rg6 cable. This is a dipole antenna and no there's is no connection between the center conductor and shield. It's not a resistance that you measure. For transmitter this is of more concern. This is a receiving antenna so it doesn't matter.

    • @kennyrmurray
      @kennyrmurray 3 роки тому

      @@12voltvids oh yeah lol

    • @kennyrmurray
      @kennyrmurray 3 роки тому

      Thanks

  • @betulaobscura
    @betulaobscura 2 роки тому +1

    Casio WV-300 - nice!

  • @burkhardboer5524
    @burkhardboer5524 3 роки тому +2

    Einfach aber gut ! Danke dafür.

  • @neilreynolds6453
    @neilreynolds6453 Рік тому

    Neat little Sony stereo.

  • @roberthughes9032
    @roberthughes9032 2 роки тому

    Thank you. Very big and easy help.

  • @steves7896
    @steves7896 7 місяців тому

    How appropriate, ".....done dirt cheap!" 👍😎

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  7 місяців тому

      Sometimes the cheapest options are the best.

  • @ElectoneGuy
    @ElectoneGuy 3 роки тому +9

    They ain't pretty, but they work.