A Huge Upgrade. Baliscissors: Ep 32

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  • Опубліковано 19 жов 2024
  • I got a new machine.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 189

  • @Cursed_Krake-Raken
    @Cursed_Krake-Raken Рік тому +265

    Make a windshield wiper for it 🤣

    • @williamtaftt
      @williamtaftt Рік тому +30

      AvE has a video where he does basically that to one of his machines, it's just circular instead of a bar like a traditional windshield wiper though. I'll see if I can find the link to it
      Edit: ua-cam.com/video/lYAnOheWHEA/v-deo.html

    • @pilotreg
      @pilotreg Рік тому +5

      ​@@williamtafttthats awesome

    • @Phiz787
      @Phiz787 Рік тому +15

      Or a compressed air nozzle pointed at that screen

    • @Loebane
      @Loebane Рік тому +2

      @@Phiz787 That's what I was thinking

    • @pete3897
      @pete3897 Рік тому +2

      ​@@williamtafttAve's portal uses compressed air

  • @wenthecowscomehome
    @wenthecowscomehome Рік тому +190

    Your desire to learn and do whatever you must to create a damn near perfect product is inspiring. With each video I get more excited to throw my wallet at you

  • @OctaneWorkholding
    @OctaneWorkholding Рік тому +55

    Very cool seeing our T-Slot Covers installed, they look great! You are picking up that machine quickly, and have a good understanding of why things work or not. The reduced shank endmill is one of the best ways to achieve taperless walls. There are a lot of ways to approach the part you were making. ( There is no wrong way, just ways that take a bit longer.) Starting with a flat sheet would allow you to machine the entire part with ultra thin tabs that break away easily. On the blades themselves, building fixtures that place the blades vertically allowing the side of the endmill to be used which leaves a perfect finish with no lines. Each blade would have a left and a right side fixture, but the end result would be fast and nearly flawless. Fixtures on a product like this tend to be an ever evolving process, but you're doing great.

    • @ContraptionCollection
      @ContraptionCollection  Рік тому +15

      Thanks. Just made a fixture that holds blades at 5 degrees to cut with the bottom of a flat end mill. Works pretty good, but I do kind of wish I tried the vertical approach instead haha.

  • @BasicMachinist
    @BasicMachinist Рік тому +30

    Hey! Machinist tip here:
    When milling a feature that has very small tolerances, always use two finishing passes, this way you always cut the same amount of material at your final pass. With this method you can just correct tool radius or length by how much still needs to be cut off. Make sure to leave enough material on the part during roughing though :)
    When i machine a toleranced dimension the first time, i always set my dr to +0.02mm, then measure and correct. With the above method, 2nd time milling is on the money, and the next part is almost exactly the same dimension :)

  • @thebrandonbakerclone
    @thebrandonbakerclone Рік тому +12

    Attempting to film butterfly knife machining processes has by far one of my biggest challenges as a camera operator.
    SO. MUCH. COOLANT. 😅You did an awesome job here though!
    Super stoked to see you making progress and refining your production processed, so stoked for the release of your future products dude!

  • @alan_felt
    @alan_felt Рік тому +75

    I've heard that tablet screen protectors on the inside of the glass can help a lot with the visibility since the coolant will bead up on the screen protector. Edit--Oops, guess I should've watched the whole video first 😂

  • @RobertMilesAI
    @RobertMilesAI Рік тому +2

    You can have a well balanced circular piece of glass (oleophobic?), spin it at high RPM and shoot through that. Spin fast enough relative to your framerate and droplets aren't visible, plus they get quickly flung away by centripetal force. There's a commercial product called 'Rotoclear'.

  • @darvis111
    @darvis111 Рік тому +1

    I need a pair of these in my life, cool to watch the progress over the last few years!

  • @felixm.8910
    @felixm.8910 Рік тому +11

    I think 'edge precision' is his channel name on UA-cam.
    He made an air-knife for a go pro to blast anything off the lens.
    Worked like a charm.
    You could also use 'Blaser Swisslube 735' (i think it's called) as a coolant. It is transparent, like water.
    Bith of these things combined could get you really good footage, I think.

  • @shadownukepie3532
    @shadownukepie3532 Рік тому +17

    happy to hear from this channel! so ecstatic to have baliscissors in hand

  • @AnselmWiercioch
    @AnselmWiercioch Рік тому +5

    The best (read: expensive) way of improving visibility is a spinning window a la Spintec or RotoClear. AvE made one himself. Might be worth a shot.

  • @dongwon0407
    @dongwon0407 Рік тому +8

    Oh my gosh.! Congrats on the machine!

  • @DrHankVenture
    @DrHankVenture Рік тому +4

    If you ran a livestream I would watch it all day. I don't know why it's so soothing to see parts being milled, but it is.

  • @dragonslayergeorge898
    @dragonslayergeorge898 Рік тому +1

    I've been watching since ep 1 you're actually so insanely critical of your work and your videos, it's kind of amazing. The way you show and describe your process is so clear and digestable without being overwhelming, I don't think you need to be so harsh about the filming.
    I enjoy seeing the coolant go nuts. I don't machine so videos are the only way I get to see it done, the process is what I enjoy seeing most, and I think a lot of people watching your stuff would agree.
    No coolant might be good for some super awesome macro or slow-mo shots, but even then seeing stuff rupture and explode is just as fun.

  • @silasknight9308
    @silasknight9308 Рік тому +1

    So excited to see you start mass production some day and can't wait for the day I have one for my self

  • @remnantcreations9910
    @remnantcreations9910 Рік тому +6

    Genuinely getting into flipping butterfly knives just so I can properly use them when you finally have a "perfected" product I only put quotes because as a fellow maker (jewelry in particular) nothing is ever perfect even after you no longer have it in your hands I'm anxious in anticipation to buy a "perfect" model

  • @_Turbocat777
    @_Turbocat777 Рік тому +2

    As much as I'd love to have a pair now I do like watching you get closer and closer to your ideal final product just as much. can't wait for you to get everything just right and thanks for sharing the journey with us.

  • @Rowsima
    @Rowsima Рік тому +9

    This is fun to watch even with the spraying.

  • @theorangebaron1595
    @theorangebaron1595 Рік тому +1

    They make GoPro cases that blow compressed air thru a special lens, keeping it free of coolant. Sort of a self cleaning lens if you will.
    Can’t wait for the new possibilities with vf2!

  • @jacobstevens6286
    @jacobstevens6286 Рік тому +4

    Awesome video as always! Cant wait for the fusion 360 video. I start college this fall for mechanical engineering so seeing your process is amazing. I guarantee you’ll have at least one buyer once you get a product out!

  • @corynrobinson
    @corynrobinson Рік тому +1

    It's ok to show the part being milled with coolant. Especially if it means a higher success rate. Just show the part after it's done being milled. I do have some ideas using 3D models overlayed on the milling footage. Let me know if you're interested. Keep up the great work though. I'm looking forward to buying my own baliscissors.

  • @ChronoShadow69
    @ChronoShadow69 Рік тому +1

    Thanks again for sharing the journey with us! Really excited every time I get to see a new step along the way!

  • @meddlingwithmetal7153
    @meddlingwithmetal7153 Рік тому +1

    I did the exact same thing, Tormach to VF2SS just this past march….night and day !!!
    Good work btw

  • @vintajecheese7803
    @vintajecheese7803 Рік тому +2

    I know AVE had the same issue filming, he found an attachment that sticks to the door. It uses compressed air to spin the glass and it flings coolant off. You can probably find the video he shows it in, I'll warn everyone, he's quite the abrasive fellow so don't say I didn't warn yall.

  • @russellzauner
    @russellzauner Рік тому

    It's pretty neat to see the journey with the Tormach and now to the next tier - this is the space where I'll be if I can ever afford a machine of my own, so thanks for making highly watchable content and publishing it for us.

  • @TTbelis
    @TTbelis Рік тому

    Yeah, I'm looking forward wait till for designing video in Fusion 360 thanks for the background music, it is lovely to watch these videos. Lot of education and chill for me.
    Have a good one.

  • @justinturbomx85
    @justinturbomx85 Рік тому

    Sawing tip! When parting off with a saw from both sides saw in a radius down the middle instead of in a straight line. The radius adds stability so it can’t seasaw

  • @calebhamby5486
    @calebhamby5486 Рік тому

    This is an awesome project and I’ve been super happy to see your failures and progress in it. Got hooked purely because of the unique mechanical function of bali-scissors, and have since started to flip balisongs for fun. Can’t wait until you’ve nailed production, and I hope I can own one some day. Keep up the awesome work, and thank you for sharing the process.

  • @vodkat001
    @vodkat001 Рік тому

    i was just rewatching the baliscissors episodes and you just came out with a new video

  • @matthewf1979
    @matthewf1979 Рік тому

    Nice upgrade! Nothing wrong with what makes sense.

  • @TheTsunamijuan
    @TheTsunamijuan Рік тому +2

    The tablet screen protector is a smart idea. I do still wonder how much a good use of compressed air like the air curtains. With it positioned over the screen protector. That sounds like it has a chance to possibly be the winning combo. Though the limiting factor might be your air compressor, and the volume of air needed to make it work well.

  • @Weaver0x00
    @Weaver0x00 Рік тому +1

    Great to see the progress. Keep doing this unique thing you got

  • @jub2650
    @jub2650 Рік тому +1

    Crazy your only at about 100k subs, I don’t own a cnc or butterfly knifes but for the last couple years I’ve enjoyed these videos

  • @max_eley
    @max_eley Рік тому +3

    Congrats on the new machine!, not personally my cup of tea, but looks like you have already got it singing nicely.

  • @MicroMidas
    @MicroMidas Рік тому

    Man! Nice machine! Cool to see the update, and I love following you on this journey! =)

  • @StormBurnX
    @StormBurnX Рік тому

    I know a spinning window/disc is often how ocean shots are filmed for movies, where essentially a disc of clear material such as acrylic is spun extremely rapidly, with the camera lens placed directly behind the spinning disc, to immediately shear away any splash. I'm sure a little coaster-sized clear acrylic disc, a drone motor, and a gopro could be hobbled together into a makeshift version of this!

  • @spinafire
    @spinafire Рік тому +1

    My first thought was a windshield wiper on a small area for the camera, but maybe you can just blast air in front of the window plane to push coolant away from it in conjunction with the tablet screen protector. Not sure what to do about the misting issue, other than again blowing it away or potentially using suction.

  • @vigorousturtle3648
    @vigorousturtle3648 Рік тому

    You have one definitive buyer right here. I will buy this product once you release it to its full potential. I love this

  • @isaaclopez3161
    @isaaclopez3161 Рік тому +1

    I can’t wait until you work out all the kinks and can get these things rolling off the proverbial press

  • @Turboy65
    @Turboy65 Рік тому +1

    Haas makes great machines for light and medium duty production work. They're not the best choice if you're taking huge hogging cuts in hard and tough materials but if you're running aluminum, brass, copper, and mild steel with lighter cuts it's hard to find a better machine in the same price category. I can see a Haas as being a dream machine as a step-up from a Tormach.

  • @nobodynoone2500
    @nobodynoone2500 Рік тому +1

    Cool, so when ya shippin? ;-P
    P.s. Some air blasted on the glass works well with the coating/protector. Otherwise as some have mentioned a few wiper devices exist, and I have seen quite a few diy magnetic contraptions.

  • @artemisargent8623
    @artemisargent8623 Рік тому

    Hey, for your recording issues, I would recommend reaching out to Titans of CNC, as they record inside of their machines, and their videos come out pretty well. As for your issues with the buttons coming out oversize, it could be due to deflection. I would personally go about 1/3 of the way down, going through all but the finish pass, then go down to the next third, and so on. If that doesnt work, carbide endmills from Kennametal have never done me wrong.

  • @calebneubert230
    @calebneubert230 Рік тому

    Awesome video! A setting I find useful if you do a lot of tapping is to turn on setting 133 (Repeat Rigid Tapping). It's nice if you have to peck tap a deeper hole, however the only drawback is slightly longer cycle times due to the spindle having to orient itself before each hole. The best way I've found to combat this is to change setting 130 (Tap Retract Speed).

  • @kerfuffle764
    @kerfuffle764 Рік тому +1

    Im so happy to see an update, good stuff man!

  • @HaecEsneLegas
    @HaecEsneLegas Рік тому +1

    Great video as always!

  • @Bensol99
    @Bensol99 Рік тому

    A simple solution I've seen for improving visabillity is a small port on the door that has a short u-shaped metal tube connected to it, when you blow air into the port with a airgun it perfectly blows away coolant from the window 😄

  • @THusbands
    @THusbands Рік тому

    That machine is mental!
    Congrats on the upgrade!

  • @MatthewGrandinetti
    @MatthewGrandinetti Рік тому

    once these go into production, you should add a livestream of the mill cutting out the parts

  • @Bbeaucha88
    @Bbeaucha88 Рік тому +1

    There are CNC windows that spin very quickly using air. You should look into that.

  • @dougmaurer7570
    @dougmaurer7570 Рік тому

    Ave has a great little concept for filming in CNC machines in his catalog of videos here in UA-cam

  • @logankelly6207
    @logankelly6207 Рік тому

    Bro honestly has the entire community hyped up ong

  • @Everything_Engineering
    @Everything_Engineering Рік тому +1

    Not cheap but you should look into Rotoclear C2 camera. Good for offsite monitoring and filming its what the tool manufactures use. Around $2k

  • @tylerpc02
    @tylerpc02 Рік тому +1

    Consider trying a hydrophobic wax like they do for car finishes if you haven't already.
    Keep up the great work man, I've watched the entire series with great interest.

    • @teguh.hofstee
      @teguh.hofstee Рік тому

      I think Breaking Taps mentioned what he did in his silica nanoparticles video but I don't remember what it was. Maybe just literally an iPad screen protector?
      Edit: ah, just got to that part of this video 😅

  • @ryanstreuli8667
    @ryanstreuli8667 Рік тому

    I think it was AVE that made a good filming rig for his CNC machine. Basically was an acrylic circular plate that spun up to centrufugally fling all the coolant off.

  • @MrBodzinek
    @MrBodzinek Рік тому +1

    wow you can even see how much that long end mill deflects

  • @Phiz787
    @Phiz787 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic video you!

  • @dadandsonsworkshop
    @dadandsonsworkshop Рік тому

    I've always said that tormach machines give machinists bad habits especially when they move up to a real machine like this, I'm glad you made the move.

  • @Rumeel12708
    @Rumeel12708 Рік тому

    Awesome!!!! Why not point an air blower to the glass? Cant wait to finally order balicissors!!

  • @Mrplacedcookie
    @Mrplacedcookie Рік тому

    I have seen those round windows that spins. They are used on ships as well when wipers don't cut it. Maybe worts looking in to?

  • @biaxolotl5171
    @biaxolotl5171 Рік тому

    Nice machine dude, very cool

  • @BlakeC4374
    @BlakeC4374 Рік тому

    i would suggest getting some Blaser swiss lube synergy 735 coolant, its super clear, also recommend from Rotoclear the Rotoclear S3 which is a spinning window that gives a clear view of the inside and the Rotoclear C2 which is a camera that has a spinning lense that keeps the coolant off so the coolant doesnt warp the image

  • @PavlikoSan
    @PavlikoSan Рік тому

    You are doing more measurements for the baliscissors than most cnc shops do for aerospace or military r&d lol
    Definitely throwing money at you once you start selling these

  • @unogazzy84
    @unogazzy84 Рік тому +2

    Regarding filming: Have you thought of something like a spinning window like the rotoclear s3?

  • @cnc-me4rm
    @cnc-me4rm Рік тому

    I also have a machine of this type, but there is no automatic tool setting and coordinate setting. This machine works very well

  • @Pxreless
    @Pxreless Рік тому

    cant wait to see whats next!

  • @Xploit66
    @Xploit66 Рік тому

    Look into a misting system, like a fog buster. It uses pressurized air to spray atomized lubricant. Should be good for video and still do some decent cooling.

  • @timgoodliffe
    @timgoodliffe Рік тому

    the vf2 SS is a great machine congrats!

  • @Vankel83
    @Vankel83 Рік тому

    Unless it's a hole with clearance. Using an end mill for pin is NFG. Better off drilling and reaming. Especially since you do your own work and can just incorporate into your designs. Been machining for 40 years and own a job shop. VF2ss was a great purchase for you. I own two them and there the work horse of the shop.

  • @cinobro6393
    @cinobro6393 Рік тому

    Use an air blade on that screen protector to blow off the residual coolant, have a look at all weather camera matteboxes or windows on other CNC mills for inspiration.

  • @Texbook01
    @Texbook01 Рік тому +1

    You should have the buttons wire EDMed. If you can, definitely better results.

  • @philtacti7240
    @philtacti7240 Рік тому

    ice one i got a vf2 tr160 io can alongtime ariblast with oil but seriusly Programmable Coolant Nozzle is all u need for milling throu coolant is of curse nice making holes

  • @MawoDuffer
    @MawoDuffer Рік тому

    I have found that it is really difficult when you can’t see what the machine is doing. I do a dry run with no coolant and no workpiece so I can see everything. But it is boring for a video so I can see why you might not have shown it
    But yeah I think you got a good machine. It looks like the doors overhang so when you open it the coolant won’t drip on your hands or head. That is a nice little convenience

  • @dinosoarskill17
    @dinosoarskill17 Рік тому

    got the kurt, renishaw, pierson, etc. nice set up!

  • @cmr708
    @cmr708 Рік тому

    i cant wait to just buy one of these for myself i been wanting one for so long

  • @AnianBrosig-yv3jn
    @AnianBrosig-yv3jn Рік тому +1

    such a nice video

  • @fancyname.nothanks6024
    @fancyname.nothanks6024 Рік тому

    Hell yeah WE'RE GETTING CLOSER

  • @ducttapedude21
    @ducttapedude21 Рік тому

    AvE has a little thing on his CNC window that uses air from a compressor to blow away coolant from the window. I'm not positive what it's called but if you watch any of his CNC videos I'm sure you'll see it.

  • @reedtassell4847
    @reedtassell4847 Рік тому

    The way deadliest catch films through rain is with a spinning oleophobic lens so the water flies off of it

  • @yepter807
    @yepter807 Рік тому

    Hey, just wondering when do you plan on selling these scissors to more people? Ive been watching for quite a while and id love to get my hands on them. Thanks

  • @pete3897
    @pete3897 Рік тому

    If you can afford that beast of a machine, you can afford a Rotoclear S3 :) 👍

  • @woutervossebeld4664
    @woutervossebeld4664 5 місяців тому

    6:00 you can see the endmill deflecting, interesting!

  • @valkyrie1716
    @valkyrie1716 Рік тому

    I can't wait for one

  • @brocksdaddy081910
    @brocksdaddy081910 Рік тому

    Holy shit a VF2... CONGRATS

  • @slimeboy4972
    @slimeboy4972 Рік тому

    What tooling do you use to do the hexagonal gimping on the handles? I’ve been trying to find a good tool for similar work but I feel after a few runs I deal with not as clean lines but yours looks really good. Could also be feeds and speeds related but I’m curious nonetheless.

  • @microwave221
    @microwave221 Рік тому

    It's fun if you don't really care for fishing, would still like something to do while drinking on a pier with your friends. I was able to pull up tackle at about the same rate they were losing it to the weeds, plus a decent knife, railroad spike, and small random garbage.

  • @Coffe-
    @Coffe- Рік тому

    Good job man.

  • @sganicocchi5337
    @sganicocchi5337 Рік тому

    As someone who is going to get an internship at a machine shop for university, what should I know going in? its a very small shop working on airsoft 2011 parts (hi-capas) looking to expand into balisongs.
    the fusion 360 video ill be looking forward to

  • @RetirementFund750
    @RetirementFund750 Рік тому

    Not sure if it will work but have you tried using rain-X on the inside of the glass? It might not work with the oil but it would be cheap to try it. I wish I had one of these machines to play with lol

  • @nh18343
    @nh18343 Рік тому +1

    Wait! Please explain why you chose this machine instead of a Doosan VMC or even something/anything else that has an HSK taper? Sorry if this sounds aggressive but I seriously would appreciate your opinions on this before my purchase.

    • @LoneWolfPrecisionLLC
      @LoneWolfPrecisionLLC Рік тому

      Hsk is more expensive and more maintenance

    • @vanguard6937
      @vanguard6937 Рік тому +1

      Hsk is like 4x more expensive per tool holder compared to bt40. Doosan is also more expensive, and I don't believe they offer the same kind of financing as haas does.
      Also, haas has a much easier interface for most things compared to doosan/fanuc

  • @quantum_beeb
    @quantum_beeb Рік тому

    Just casually buys a new $50k machine. Hit up Titans of CNC. Their video looks amazing on all their machines

  • @tygo800
    @tygo800 Рік тому

    Finally. Some quality content

  • @stephenhanselmann3443
    @stephenhanselmann3443 Рік тому

    it would help if you had the window screen spit really fast whipping all the water drops off. they did something similar to this on deadly catch to film during rain

  • @insid3493
    @insid3493 Рік тому +1

    WHOOOOOO HE UPLOADED

  • @xp_pk
    @xp_pk Рік тому

    Haas machines are great.

  • @Sparky5869
    @Sparky5869 Рік тому

    AvE has a video about making videos while machining, and specifically the coolant getting on the glass

  • @NefariousRake
    @NefariousRake Рік тому

    Man can't wait to buy a pair of my own stupidly over engineered scissors. keep up the work, I know that was a little brash but I'm serious, I'm like Philip J Fry buying an eye phone, just shut up and take my money already

  • @Deathbringer_Live
    @Deathbringer_Live Рік тому +1

    My boy sounds like Joe Pera and I kinda like it alot tbh

  • @NithinJune
    @NithinJune Рік тому

    My high school had this machine!

  • @PKSkeith
    @PKSkeith Рік тому

    can't wait for the 4572 release date.

  • @WhozaCardoza
    @WhozaCardoza Рік тому

    Bro deserves way more subs/views